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I got the first message from Ace, so I knew he was CL right away. When he started defending jackal from bum, I knew that jackal must be mafia as well, so I figured that why/varpulis was the last mafia because jackal, why and I were all among the players Ace said he would message if he were CL. I thought that up until the moment where sandroba claimed vet, haha.
Ace is the boss, by the way, lol. Town just got further and further away from figuring out what was going on as the game progressed. On day 2, I figured Ace would be able to get bum lynched so I argued against Ace for bum's sake both to prevent the lynch from being too one-sided, and to keep town's focus on that one issue instead of actually scum-hunting. I dont know if jackal and sandroba were already going to kill me just for that, or if they killed me because of my 'scumhunting' at night. If it was my night posts, then I blame Ace! Ace sent me a message saying 'kill the Canadian poster tonight'. Well, Wiggles and Impervious are both Canadian! So I tried to crumb this to Ace by asking Wiggles to analyse Impervious. Ace didn't pick up on it, so I asked him what he thought of the analysis. He still didn't figure it out, lol. So I just guessed Wiggles but it didn't end up mattering anyway . Ah well, job well done, sleeper cell.
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Personally, MVP goes to Ace.
As the Cell Leader, any other player would have attempted to tell all mafia members who the others were. But Ace did not do that. Instead, he intentionally left Jackal in the dark. This was actually brilliant, because it prevented town from getting a good read on alliances. If Jackal had been lynched, Ace and Sandroba would have been confirmed town. Sandroba also had no idea that Jackal was scum, which further helped the relationships be real.
Other notes: Mafia DID actually kill GGQ lol. Which was hilarious. I think the modkills actually kind of balanced out over the game. One scum modkill and 2 town modkills iirc. bum's claim was hilarious and terrible. Sandroba's Vet claim was a great call, that confirmed both him and Ace. This was without any communication between them to do so. Sandroba gets the Second Most Valuable Player award lol.
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Ace being cell leader and sandroba being a sleeper was the exact situation I was afraid of. But I figured it was so unlikely :/
gj guys!
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On May 06 2011 13:17 GMarshal wrote: Also, bum pegged the whole frigging mafia team and you guys just disregarded it.
Not me! :D
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Regarding the Bullet-proof townie Miller role:
This was town's failsafe. This is the guy who should be drawing all kinds of hits and never claim unless checked. He can claim a blue role, do awesome scum analysis, w/e, just draw the hits and make the game last longer. That's his goal. I thought tnkted did pretty well as it, even if he didn't draw any hits.
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Ace's messages:
##GGQ "Cards are good for you"
##sandroba "two others make blackjack 21"
##jackal58
I hope you die :D
#GGQ
tonight kill the Canadian poster
#jackal58
"well that night ended well"
##sandroba
MVP move with that roleclaim!
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@GGQ: I actually didn't know they were both Canadian until after the message v_v
@Impervious: You were so close a few times. When bum claimed and you believed him I was like "damn, guess I actually have to work to get this bastard DT lynched"
@Igrok and chaoser: This setup has tons of potential. Probably just as good as normal mini mafia. If you draw scum in this game and aren't a CL I think you have a harder time than almost any other setup. Good for training tho!
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On May 06 2011 13:19 Ace wrote: its not what you know, it's what you can convince people to believe
besides bum never had a concrete "ok these guys have to be scum and there is no other way" post
Yeah sorry about that lol
On April 30 2011 11:55 bumatlarge wrote: Aw, jackal vote yourself like a man. I hope you guys at least rally up so you know what to do after you do this.
Jackal Ace Wiggles maybe sandroba, but not sure.
Ace succeeds at convincing town to lynch the DT again. Props Ace.
Apologies to wiggles, but I didn't suspect GGQ for shit. (neither did the sand and jackal lololol) And I did mix up Ace and jackal as CL.
But come one town, you didn't follow up on anything, Jackal should have been an easy catch for you guys even if I was never in the game. Then after I specifically say "TNKTED IS DEFINTE BLUE" you god damn lynch him. AND EVEN AFTER THAT, after you mull over the whole role PM thing that ace and san are probably right and tnkted was caught in a 'lie', you completely ignore what you gained from lynching him. And then you proceed to lynch brownbear...
I don't know what kind of psychic powers Ace possesses, but he absolutely facerolled us. Sand made a spectacular vet claim, and GGQ was mist in the wind. And Jackal, because even for his abysmal play otherwise, it still would have eventually manifested itself in helping his team if he ever died, or one of them did. I think he figured out exactly what was going on when ace and sand blue claimed. Props mafia, you deserved that one.
Town, I am disappoint.
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On May 06 2011 13:15 Ace wrote:lololololol. Poor Jackal  I was so sad v_v But hey Jackal tried to shoot me twice so dont feel bad ^_^ You prick. I played this whole thing in the dark. I voted you the second time cause I was damn near positive you were the cell leader. It was a very gentle "fuck you". 
I mean really. What was the point of keeping me in the dark? First time I ever play scum and I ended up trying to play it like an SK. I was clueless.
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On May 06 2011 13:30 GGQ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 13:17 GMarshal wrote: Also, bum pegged the whole frigging mafia team and you guys just disregarded it. Not me! :D Yeah but your own team shot you, so you don't count.
Also I figured out the best play is for all the cell members to intentionally try to spread out their shots, so that way the CL can choose who gets shot and avoid shooting its own team. Ofc its not easy, but it assuming the team is good at doing this they could have the CL always pick who to kill
A good way of doing this would be to have the whole team just pick the person below them alphabetically for example. The hard thing would be communicating this to the team.
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On May 06 2011 13:33 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 13:15 Ace wrote:lololololol. Poor Jackal  On May 06 2011 13:05 GGQ wrote: I still can't believe you fuckers shot me. I was so sad v_v But hey Jackal tried to shoot me twice so dont feel bad ^_^ You prick. I played this whole thing in the dark. I voted you the second time cause I was damn near positive you were the cell leader. It was a very gentle "fuck you".  I mean really. What was the point of keeping me in the dark? First time I ever play scum and I ended up trying to play it like an SK. I was clueless.
you were so rabid that it actually helped us win! If myself or sandroba aka The Sand Man died you looked like a saint for raging hard on me. At one point I was like "god damn, if Jackal keeps going he's gonna get us all killed" but somehow it didn't happen.
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On May 06 2011 13:31 Ace wrote: @Impervious: You were so close a few times. When bum claimed and you believed him I was like "damn, guess I actually have to work to get this bastard DT lynched"
Tbh, I wasn't too sure he was legit. What I was sure of was that it would have been better to have him alive than dead.
Also, sick move with the roleclaim (you and sandroba).
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Overall it was an awesome game, thanks to iGrok and chaoser for hosting this awesome setup. Next time put medics in or something to keep me from dying N1! I really wonder what I would have said to bums claim if I didn't know it was real, or Ace's for that matter.
EDIT: and Ace when you make your return to normal games I want to be on your mafia team, your destruction of the town was something to learn from
EDIT2: also kudos to sand, who was convinced jackal was going to get himself lynched all game long, he played a pretty scary game as mafia too.
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Screw scum. That shits hard to pull off.
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Who knows when I'll return to normal games. I'll just update my Scum Guide someday because playing Scum is lots of fun, especially when you get ridiculous characters like L or RebirthofLegend aka suicide Bob in irc. There is just so much that goes into it that unless you get lucky to roll Scum a few times in a row it takes a while to get used to game flow and reading people.
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I think I saved my additional sandroba analysis, I'll try to find it. I'm really angry at zorkmid, but I'm glad he didn't do more harm then he could have. He's going to have to come up with a helluva good reason if he ever wants to play here again, at least in the same game as me.
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......uh, I thought day ended tomorrow. Fuck, sorry about that. :/
EDIT: Oh, of course. It's may 5 where I am but may 6 on tl -_-
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On May 06 2011 13:44 bumatlarge wrote: I think I saved my additional sandroba analysis, I'll try to find it. I'm really angry at zorkmid, but I'm glad he didn't do more harm then he could have. He's going to have to come up with a helluva good reason if he ever wants to play here again, at least in the same game as me.
like I said he ruined a possibly good moment v_v
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I missed the post, what did it say?
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And of course that started inklings of me being right since he jumped on the wagon. It defintely would have played out differently, but I am satisfied with the outcome to an extent. And I mainly added the claim because my sister was having a baby! Didn't think I'd have any time to post after the analysis, but of course I made myself find time. In other news, I will be the godfather (which totals to 3 godchildren I have). Found that pretty funny 
Thanks iGrok and chaoser! Fantastic set-up.
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