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On March 27 2011 15:42 annul wrote: /out  | ||
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On March 30 2011 01:53 Tackster wrote: OK I've thought about it and given how much time insane mafia has required of me I don't think I can devote that time again until after exams. I'm getting lynched tonight in Insane Mafia 2 so it's all working out better for the studies! See you in June some time peeps! /out Awww no. You're good dude. I was looking forward to another game with you.  | ||
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^You will be told if you are in a PM circle when you receive your role I would imagine. | ||
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On April 04 2011 05:54 Barundar wrote: Argh wth /in Day 1 lynch=jackal if he goes bowling on tuesday! Well I'm doomed. | ||
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On April 04 2011 08:45 Kavdragon wrote: Oh lol. Hmm. Guess I should take that down for now. Nah. Put it back. | ||
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On April 04 2011 18:20 redtooth wrote: can we wait til insane 2 ends? then i can be in this one =) Smurfing? | ||
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On April 07 2011 03:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Are you guys back together again? Already? We died before our divorce was finalized. We're stuck with each other for all eternity. Fucking scum | ||
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We know him better as Slut. | ||
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On April 10 2011 09:49 Kavdragon wrote: Lol, I don't need godfather. I'll just argue my way out of the lynch once someone DT's me as red. :p And sure, if you have a doubt in you mind as to my alignment by N1, then DT me. There's no framer, so I don't have worry about it being wrong. Scum slip???? So soon Kav?  | ||
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On April 10 2011 10:13 Coagulation wrote: Jackal doesnt joke Kavdragon just became the light at the end of jackals tunnel. I am part of the Dumb and Dumber duet. We ain't smarts enough to make jokes. | ||
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Protactinum as mayor pretty much guarantees scum don't get it. Any guarantee that scum doesn't hold those extra votes at end game is a win for town. I don't care what happens on the way to the forum if we get to an end game scenario and mayor is scum town loses. Period. Play to win. Voting for anybody but Protactinum is stupid. Plus who wouldn't want who he really is as mayor. He's a proven scum hunter. His analysis abilities exceed almost everybody else in this game. His win condition is secondary atm. Even if he does win early and leave that is a better scenario than having a scummy mayor at end game. Protactinum gets my vote. And seriously if you don't know who he is you'll never find scum so just shush and vote a non scum player as mayor. | ||
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##VOTE: Protactinum for mayor And I don't know how you guys think you're voting for a pardoner. Pardoner is the first loser in the mayor race. Stop voting for a pardoner cause you aren't voting for anybody. That race doesn't exist. | ||
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On April 11 2011 00:29 redFF wrote: I think having an assassin in a protected position such as mayor would be good for reasons stated before. e.g. Having essentially 2 extra lynches(assuming he cooperates). But, if he doesn't actually get mayor or pardoner then we shouldn't waste a doctor on assassin kp, but instead should focus on blocking mafia kp on confirmed blues and greens. There is only 1 good reason to make him mayor. Denial of services to scum. That reason alone should be enough to make everybody vote for him. The mayor role at endgame will decide who wins. If scum have it they autolynch town we lose. If town have it there is still the chance of a mislynch. I'm more comfy with that scenario but I still see it as problematic. If GMarshall is mayor that percentage of mislynching goes up exponentially.  The best case scenario is having no mayor to fuck things up at endgame. Using his dt ability and two extra kp directed by town are both town pluses. Having a mayor that meets his win condition and leaves early is also a plus. It totally removes another uncertainty from the game. | ||
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On April 11 2011 01:18 Barundar wrote: Honestly Jackal, you want to leave our first lynch to be decided by a non-town player? We have a role in the pardoner that gives him the protection he needs to act as vigi for him, and pardoner is more of a mafia role than a town role anyways. He can have that, but mayor is too powerful to let a third party have. I agree that it's great to have a non-scum player in office, but it's not irrelevant that Protactinum has a different win condition. For Protactinum to win, he needs to prolong the game untill he have killed all the other assassins. If town is too far ahead, it will be in his interest to slow us down, and vice verca when scum is ahead. Since he will work against us when we are ahead, he will not win the game for us, no matter how great an analyst he is. His hands are basically tied on the lynch. He votes for who town puts forth or he gets lynched. He is in a lylo on day 1. If it gets to the point where we are that far ahead that he's a detriment to town we no longer need him anyways so again he's in a lylo. He is forced into being pro town or losing. | ||
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On April 11 2011 02:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: this is exactly what the mafia wants btw a mayor who they can manipulate, force his votes to go the way they want to get him lynched (waste of town KP on a useless role like assassin and also ridding town of mayor). I think scum want to be mayor first and foremost. | ||
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On April 11 2011 02:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote: yeah and having an assassin mayor is really the next best thing And having a scum mayor is the worst case scenario for town. And I'm aware that Protactinum may be scum not assassin. If he is he has balls bigger than he's already been given credit for. I honestly think towns best interest in this is to keep scum from getting the mayors seat. | ||
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On April 11 2011 03:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: 1)protact isn't town 2)he has no incentive to do anything for us 3)a mayor that does whatever "Town" tells him to do out of fear of lynch is a TERRIBLE mayor 4)protact could just as well be making a very ballsy scum bluff imo the mayor should be me or Gmarshal. I get the strongest town read from Gmarshal right now. We shouldn't be so petrified of having a mafia mayor that we elect a worthless third party mayor. We have no incentive to keep protact alive, he has no incentive to help us, we're basically just discarding the role of mayor out of fear. I don't understand this. You admit protact could very well be scum yet you're voting for him because you just want a non-scum mayor. I think our focus should be getting a pro-town mayor. GMarshal are you going to lynch kavdragon/mib if you're elected? PLease do Actually I haven't officially voted for anybody yet. On April 11 2011 03:47 GMarshal wrote: Also, @Dr.H I'm willing to consider a kav lynch, if you provide me with solid reasoning, I have a 70% town read on kav atm, can you point out what he has said that makes you think he is scum? It dosn't have to be terribly detailed, just the salient points of why. As of right now the two lurker lynches I am considering are jackal and wiggles, I'd like to hear thoughts for and against. How the fuck am I lurking????? Tell ya what man. I'll vote for you for mayor and you post a list of everybody you think is town so we can fucking lynch them. | ||
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On April 11 2011 04:03 kitaman27 wrote: It should also be noted that mafia wants an assassin in office. Think about all the unnecessary distraction and chaos it would cause. Focus will be put on whether or not to lynch our pardoner when he starts acting up, rather than hunting scum. Scum want scum in office. Either townie or assassin is a detriment to them. Assassins don't want an assassin in office. They would prefer scum over townie. Townies don't want scum in office. Townies want non scum in office. Doesn't matter to me if it's an assassin or a townie. I just think their is a higher probability of truth in the assassins claim than any of the other candidates. | ||
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On April 11 2011 04:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: so i can see you don't really have the towns best interest in mind. noted. Bullshit. If you took a minute to stop swinging your dick around you'd see more than a spray of smegma. You're either assassin or scum. I'm leaning towards assassin. On April 11 2011 04:19 GMarshal wrote: The fuck? AO, you are making absolutely no sense. @Jackal, yes I *did* fuck up in XXXVII, but do I get no credit for guessing enough of the scum team day 1 in Insane 2 to make them kill me? Also as far as your lurking goes, I've only seen you make 4-5 real posts... Wtf makes you think in any way shape or form that I'm lurking????? If it's because my first post wasn't until this morning blame BB for starting the game early. Sorry but I have to sleep sometime. Since I got up I've been posting all over this bitch. | ||
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On April 11 2011 04:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Town wants town in office. I don't care if protactinium dies and neither should you. I want a town player in office, I'm sorry if you're not good enough to get a town read on someone who is running. So because I don't want an assassin mayor therefore i am assassin/scum good logic. oh wait no it isnt If he's not elected I don't give two shits about him. He won't last night 1. And your pro town reads got you far in mini mafiaV when node played you like a baby grand. So don't try to pass off your exceptional ability to differentiate. Scum want scum in the mayors seat. That is the only 100% truth. | ||
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On April 11 2011 04:51 The_Roist wrote: I've never seen a game get so worked up over a ninja/witch hunt before. Never one that the town has won anyway... We always brawl on day 1. | ||
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On April 11 2011 05:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: pandain is a special kind of idiot well at least we can be a duo of reason trying to push the town onto scumhunting doctorhelvetica/coagulation '11?? The scum and scummier platform???? | ||
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On April 11 2011 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i think you're red too so this is cute I'm fucking Joe McCarthy compared to you. But you're right. This is rapidly turning into a shit fest of an epic magnitude. I'll say right now that there is no fucking way in hell I will vote for Pandain. His forays into elected office always end in town getting raped. | ||
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He'll die happy. Scum will be happy. Assassins will be happy. Town will be happy. Game over. | ||
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On April 11 2011 06:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote: This is the big tl;dr post where I explain all my thoughts I think I've done all the poking and prodding I can. We're in a sticky situation and we need to make the best of it. So I'll lay out my platform simply. -Protactinium should NOT be mayor. The mayor role is designed to be very helpful to either town/mafia depending on who gets it. Our goal is not to simply have non-scum as mayor, our goal is to have town as mayor. Why? More votes. Protactinium has no interest in who is lynched, he will simply vote the way the "town" wants him to so that he is not lynched himself. This is bad. Huh? Shouldn't the mayor use his votes the way the town wants? No, because the town is quite often wrong. Mafia will manipulate/split bandwagons and then try to influence the mayor to pad the lynch they want. The mayor should always vote for the person HE thinks is scum. The mayor should act autonomously and vote based on his own thoughts and instincts. An autonomous third party mayor is a terrible idea, an autonomous town-aligned mayor is not. -I'm okay with Protactinium being Pardoner. This will give him some protection and allow us to threaten him into using his DT check/kill power where we want it. The pardoner power is pretty insignificant compared to the mayoral power and I suppose we could make some use of him. As long as our focus is using proactinium to find scum NOT using him to find other assassins. -Pandain is stupid and bad. You should never roleclaim DT day 1 and he is essentially using his role to hold us hostage into voting for him. This makes perfect sense if he is godfather and it makes even more sense if he is on a scumteam with Protactinium. Unfortunately, DT is probably the most valuable town role and I really hate the idea of just letting him die. Pandain is a terrible scumhunter and is bad at almost every aspect of the game and the idea of him in a leadership position makes my skin crawl. I would be okay if he was pardoner and no one took him seriously/listened to him by accident. -This idea that you can't scumhunt on day 1 is retarded. That's my favorite bad point to make when I'm mafia. yeah the game is designed on the assumption that town mislynches on the first day. But we should all absolutely be focused on figuring out who is scum, who isn't. What is each persons motivation. WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH BY POSTING THIS. that's the question you should ask! Not: -what contradictions do they make (townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia) i'm gonna repeat that 100 times for emphasis: townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafiatownies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafiatownies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia townies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafiatownies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafiatownies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafiatownies contradict themselves as much if not more than mafia Okay. These are scenarios I am somewhat comfortable with: Mayor/Pardoner: Myself/Protactinium Gmarshal/Protacinium Gmarshal/Pandain Scenarios I prefer: Myself/Pandain Myself/Coagulation Myself/Gmarshal Gmarshal/Myself Gmarshal/Pandain Pandain might be the DT. Give him a worthless role like pardoner and watch him closely. I don't want to throw the DT away or waste medics on someone like him. Who I feel comfortable lynching and why: Kavdragon - His posts after role PMs were sent were designed to do two things. To seem as pro-town and helpful as possible and to contribute nothing at all. Lots of obvious "advice" and redundant bullshit. When called out he becomes defensive and tries to turn the tables on me. Not good. However kavdragon is a useful player if town, this is a risky lynch choice but I have a strong scum read on him. mib - Same deal. Tries to "contribute" but says nothing at all. Regurgitates talking points from previously in the thread and has a bad excuse to explain why that is. He's a new player and mostly inactive so lynching him should be no big loss if he's town anyway. So that's my thoughts. My plan is to have myself as mayor, I will disregard everything the town says completely, and to have pandain as pardoner so if he is DT he doesn't die. If bodyguards start dying, lynch pandain. He's an idiot so it won't be long before he fucks up if he faked his roleclaim, so I feel pretty safe about that. You piss me off with almost every post. You remind me of me. I'll second your first option. You as mayor. Protactinium as pardoner. Your second option isn't too shabby either. | ||
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On April 11 2011 06:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i'm the most calm and collected person here[/QUOTE]And I'm the fucking easter bunny. | ||
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On April 11 2011 07:23 GMarshal wrote: curiously town lynched takster on a phrase just like this in insane 2. Did you read the part of my campaign where I tell people to provide reasons? Specifically the part about we ignore people who don't explain their reasons? Was a hell of a plan no?? On April 11 2011 07:24 redFF wrote:Yeah i think it's an easy lynch and if he is red we have a huge advantage, can't really see anyone else i 100% want to lynch except pandain. And it's deliciously ironic that this post immediately followed. | ||
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On April 11 2011 08:00 TranceStorm wrote: I think the support for GMarshal is a bit suspicious at the moment. Everyone seems to justify their vote for GMarshal on the basis that he is the most pro-town and that argument is thrown around alot. But it seems like alot of people are sheeping to his side without alot of justification for why. Personally, I think that Dr. H has been the most town to me because of his aggressive approach. I don't think any mafia would want to make that aggressive of a start at the beginning of a game - they'd rather appear more passive to the town. Would a mafia risk making that many contradictions at the beginning of a game? Dr. H's accusations seem a bit erratic and scattergun and may cause trouble later down the road, in my opinion he is the most town out of all the candidates making him the safest choice for me. | ||
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On April 11 2011 10:11 redFF wrote: He posted earlier that it was just a placeholder. And there is a bandwagon in GM and since you have been real aggresive for a while maybe people just don't like you. That said, if i could have it my way i would probably have you mayor and protact pardoner, but i only have one vote and see no reason to change it right now. I don't like him and I'm probably going to vote for him. It doesn't matter if people "like" him or not. All that matters is that town wins. Who is going to give town the best shot at that is how you should vote Not if you like him or not. Within a day or two if I'm not dead I'll probably piss off half of you myself. I don't care. I'll do whatever it takes to win. I didn't play Sim City as a kid. I had a stick to play with. | ||
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On April 11 2011 11:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: this post in 2 sentences: blablabla stuff other people already said. also i am too scared to make a decision so im gonna stall. This post in 1 sentence. I'm being a dick. | ||
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On April 11 2011 11:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote: this post in 1 second: i haven't done anything this whole game but criticize DrH and im old I've been critical of your dick swinging play style. Not the content of it. If I want to hear 13 year old punks call everybody an idiot I'll start playing on Battlenet again. | ||
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On April 11 2011 11:32 Lanaia wrote: Is this Dr. H attitude his normal attitude? Ya pretty much. DocH calls it like it is. Coag types in caps and I get warnings. | ||
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On April 11 2011 11:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: oh the wacky hijinks the three of us could get into Prison or Disney World. | ||
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On April 11 2011 21:18 Milkyst wrote: And that's exactly what I'm going to do. I'm voting for redFF. He wants people to be lynched, been talking alot of trash as well throughout the thread. He's also wanting to urge the townies to vote for one of these three... little bit suspicious if you ask me. Since DocH doesn't appear to be here atm I'll pick up the slack for him. Wtf are you smoking????? I suggest you invest an hour and begin reading from BB's OP to right here. Then stop and reevaluate what you just posted. | ||
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On April 12 2011 01:21 Lanaia wrote: 1. Jackal58 - Very likely town from where I stand. 2. Rean - Part of me believes Rean to be the assassin based solely on his/her few posts inthread. 3. Coagulation - I am fairly certain he is town. 4. GMarshal - He is definitely town. 5. Pandain - I really have no idea what he is. 6. GGQ - Null. 7. OriginalName - Null. 8. Kenpachi - Town. 9. ilovejonn - Null 10.Mr. Wiggles - Null 11.chaoser - Probably town, but not sure. 12.Latrommi - Null 13.kevconsim - It feels like he's playing exactly how he played last game. So, I'm thinking he's scum. 14.Protactinium - Assassin 15.TranceStorm - Null 16.tnkted - I'm about 50-50 here. 17.Eiii - Assassin. 18.urashimakt - Feels town. 19.Lemonwalrus - Null. 20.Milkyst - Not memorable. 21.DropBear - Probably town 22.The_Roist - Probably nottown. 23.kitaman27 - Def town 24.Lanaia - I know I'm town. 25.jaminz - Don't recall any of this person's posts. Either has none or all or unmemorable. 26.DarthThienAn - Null. Hasn't said much. 27.DoctorHelvetica - Seems kinda town. 28.darmousseh - His posts aren't memorable to me. 29.AirbladeOrange - Seems like he's trying to be townable. He's new so it's probably less easy for him to fake that, no? 30.MetalFace - No idea 31.Barundar - Town. 32.Kavdragon - He's town. 33.redFF - Likely town 34.M0nsterChef - I don't know, but he's really not helping his case with what he's done. 35.Serejai - I can't tell if he's a troll or not. I can't tell his alignment given what he's given us. 36.Robellicose - Null. 37.Mig - Null 38.aidnai - Likely town 39.Conversion - Town 40.Tackster - Null Well cool. We're all townies. We can call it quits guys. Scum packed their bags and left. C'mon Lanaia. I know you are capable of calling people scum. This looks really bad pegging everybody as town or "null" Coag and GMarshall look scummy. See it's not hard. Say it with me. Coag and GMarshall look scummy. Or pick anybody else and try it. Calling people town and null just lets scum sit there and feel slightly belittled in their nullness. | ||
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On April 12 2011 01:25 Lanaia wrote: Hello guys. It has been nice playing with you. I have to cram 1.5 months of schoolwork into two weeks. I can't play to the extent most people would like. As such, I'm requesting replacement. It's been nice. -Lanaia <3 Dammit. You're fun. | ||
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On April 12 2011 01:54 AirbladeOrange wrote:And coagulation - I have no idea what to make of this guy. I think he's just crazy. You have a great future in analysis. Most people take 2 or 3 games to come to that realization. | ||
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On April 12 2011 02:41 GMarshal wrote: As for the outrage at my medic list, I want to hear who you guys would rather have on it, thats half the point of my list. Not outrage at all. Actually I'm a bit flattered. But I got ask also - Why Tackster? He has been absent this entire day 1 so far. He may actually be in danger of being mod killed. I'd have to go back and verify that. Dunno if he's posted since the day post or not. But he certainly hasn't posted anything noteworthy yet. I don't get it GMan. And poor Tack might get a complex if he thinks I'm bagging on him. But I'm not. I just wanna know how you can say he's medic protection worthy when he hasn't even posted yet? And redFF. - I don't get comfy vibes from him man. I don't know what it is but he's not town like I'd want town to be. He's more like somebody else's mouthpiece. I'll give him time to grow on me but right now he makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. | ||
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On April 12 2011 02:48 tnkted wrote: Jackal has been playing this game precicely the same as he has last time, with short contentless posts talking about how much he hates scum, etc, interspaced with witty play on words and condescending nicknames. He was green last time. Ironically, you started thinking he was scum immediately after arguing with him over... what exactly? Well Twinkles you must have missed my posts regarding my support of Proact. About 5 or 6 of them. They all probably contained - hell I don't know - 7 or 8 sentences each. Gasp. Maybe more. And if DocH really thought I was scummy he'd still have his nose so far up my ass he'd be able to see what I had for lunch. He does much the same thing I do. Throw shit against the wall and see what sticks. That is the way Doc plays. Sometimes he goes a little over the top. As long as he's town I don't really care. Missed ya sweetheart. | ||
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On April 12 2011 03:17 GMarshal wrote: I thought Tack played a really, really solid game in Insane 2 and I'm kind of banking on him doing what he did there and showing up with a massive pro-town post before the day ends. Is there anyone else you'd like to see included in the list? Anyone who you think is on one of the other lists who dosn't merit it? I'll be honest with ya man. This is day 1. If you want me to put together a list of who I would like to see at endgame I can do that. Unfortunately probably half of them will be scum. You really called it though. I'm much better at this game after day 2 or 3 than I am at the beginning. But I just don't understand how you can say "Tack played well last game so I hope he does again this game" I agree 100% with you that he played well. Hell I should be more aware of that than anybody. I got him lynched. But that doesn't mean he's town in this game. I have seen nothing from him to evaluate or analyze. Wanting him to have medic protection with the info you have either means you're naive or you know his alignment. And there is only one way you could know his alignment. | ||
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On April 12 2011 03:32 redFF wrote: I'm just calling out people who i think are scummy and trying to catch them out on it. I'm just trying to make sure people don't vote for someone like GM just because they see a lot of seemingly well reasoned posts on how pro-town he is. Would you rather they vote for him because of well reasoned posts on why he might be scum?????? | ||
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On April 12 2011 04:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: if protact isn't elected then i'll publicly announce the list of my assassin suspects so they can just kill eachother off quickly. otherwise i'll hold back so we can use his check at least.again i'd like to see myself as mayor, and protactinium as pardoner, I think that will ultimately be the best scenario for us. That's the scenario I want to see. | ||
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On April 12 2011 05:09 Lemonwalrus wrote: ##Vote: Jackal58 Placeholder so Brownbear doesn't get an ulcer. Will be posting in a bit. I'll vote when I'm damn good and fucking ready to vote. | ||
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On April 12 2011 07:34 Tackster wrote: Guys listen I'm sorry to cause problems for everyone but I just haven't had the time to focus on this game. Apart from other things going on I am currently trying to quit smoking after being on 30 a day and that certainly doesn't help with the old focus. I will be back to play forum mafia when i find the time and I am sorry for wasting a space in the game. Hopefully you'll find someone that can replace me rather than lose a green altogther... I enjoyed what little of Insane 2 I got to play and when i get back i'll be putting in some proper games. Good luck everyone!! I quit smoking every other week. Last time I did I lynched you. What a bullshit excuse. Get your ass back in here and share the pain. Fucking pussy. | ||
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On April 12 2011 08:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Also, I forgot to mention this in my post, but why's Pandain getting replaced? This will be interesting to see how his replacement acts after a fake DT claim. Bigger question. Why did Pandain quit? If somebody replaces him I'll bet ya 20 bucks they're scum. The only reason Pandain would quit is because his scum team told him to. The guy is shameless. If he was town he'd Barney Fife his was as long as he could. Somebody told him to gtfo. Serejai is an intentional idiot. I hate people like him. | ||
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On April 12 2011 08:52 redFF wrote: I disagree with lynching serejai, yes he did derail the thread a bit, but consider this. 3 contentless/slightly idiotic posts where he tries to keep attention on the thread derailing troll. Let's have a look at a few more posts of kevconsim Regarding the mayor race There were his 2 posts before he voted Gmarshal. Finally Fos KEvconsim Wow. You really are red FFS | ||
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Not because I want him as mayor but because I want him as Pardoner. I am hoping 3 or 4 of you will switch your votes from GMan to Proact to make him the pardoner. | ||
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Tackster is most likely scum too. Or whoever replaces him. + Show Spoiler + On April 12 2011 03:30 GMarshal wrote: I was actually kind of hoping that his name coming up would make him post, but you are right, its a really basless call if you only analyze the stuff going on in this game and don't look at the meta. I would remove him, but if I didn't make mildly controversial calls, well then there wouldn't be much to discuss no would there? ^_^ | ||
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On April 12 2011 22:16 TranceStorm wrote: I'm only starting read through all of what I missed last night, but having a medic list in my opinion is not very helpful. Sure, you protect some of the key analyzers of the town, but the mafia can be reasonably sure that their hits will go through and that they don't have to double-up if they target someone. If we don't have a specific 'medic list', mafia will self-guess themselves when picking their targets as the possibility of medic protection will always be there. However, I do agree with the idea of the detective/tracker list as a means of systematically searching through all the players. Since the mafia cannot defend themselves from a search, it does no harm to actively identify which players should be watched/tracked/investigated at night. A medic/DT/Tracker list may be useful to first timers that received blue roles. They don't necessarily know who has played before nor who has played well. So ya I can see it as being somewhat helpful. Of course everything is RNGed so it really doesn't matter much if you've played before or not. Right now it's a crap shoot as to who you're protecting tonight as a medic. For all you know as a medic you might be protecting scum. But what I will guarantee you is scum already have an idea who the fuck they want to kill tonight. Whether anybody puts forth a list or not is irrelevant. I'll put forth a list of people that I know have played more than 1 or 2 games. It might help the new guys in watching to see how to play or in some cases how not to. 1.Jackal58 3. Coagulation 4. GMarshal 5. Pandain 6. GGQ 7. OriginalName 8. Kenpachi 9. ilovejonn 10.Mr. Wiggles 11.chaoser 14.Protactinium 17.Eiii 23.kitaman27 24.bumatlarge 26.DarthThienAn 27.DoctorHelvetica 28.darmousseh 31.Barundar 38.aidnai I'm not assigning any value or worth to anybody on the list. All I'm saying is they've all played numerous games. And there may be some others I'm not familiar with or some that are smurfing. | ||
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The clues all point to you man. Did you replace Tack? Sorry if there was a post. I missed it. | ||
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On April 12 2011 23:34 CubEdIn wrote: Not yet, but BB asked and I said yes, I'm guessing I will when he gets back online. Quite curious myself. Sweet. Welcome aboard. HEY EVERYBODY!!! IF CUBEDIN IS SCUM LYNCH HIM LAST SO I CAN CALL HIM SCUM EVERY SINGLE TIME HE POSTS!!!!!!! | ||
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I'd love to have a check on GMarshall but we don't have that option. | ||
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On April 13 2011 04:01 Qatol wrote: Play nice please. I thought we were. | ||
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On April 13 2011 05:37 redFF wrote: Why are me and M0nsterChef both suspicous to you? We voted for different candidates, I gave reason for my vote and I've stuck to my guns. He's supporting GM I Have an FOS on him. Please explain why i am a scum read. How you vote doesn't mean anything. Who you FoS means even less. FoSing people for reasons that make little or no sense do. They may make sense to you at the time but most of your finger pointing has made none to me. And this is coming from the guy that just calls people scum with no explanation. Why does Coag always get the gun? | ||
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On April 13 2011 07:08 Rean wrote: What he's saying is that lynching ON might be a gamble, but it's one with a high reward. Either we kill him, he flips red and we've got a few red buddies to point out, or he flips green and then people like RedFF will start to be very red. A risk that might just be worth taking, unless there's another good option. Lynching for information is like fucking for virginity. | ||
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On April 13 2011 07:37 chaoser wrote: ....my brain hurts from reading this analogy... Feels good when you're doing it but when your done you ain't got no information or virgins left. | ||
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On April 13 2011 11:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote: cool lets all pretend we're pandain and make joke claims that's very helpful I'm a character assassin. You pervert. | ||
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If I'm still alive tomorrow I'll assassinate GM's character. Toodles guys. | ||
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On April 13 2011 22:34 DarthThienAn wrote: a townie has no reason to lie about this. Therefore, it's win-win. If Coag is town and Pro is mafia, I'll take the 1-1. If they're both mafia, then even better lol. Why lynch Proact? An assassin or scum will kill him tonight. Don't protect him let him die. If he doesn't ignore him. He's a liar. Anything he says is now pushing a liars agenda. We don't know what he is. All we know is anything he says has to justify his lies. Which one is the lie? How the fuck do I know? All I know is he has 0 credibility with me. He's not worth wasting a lynch on atm. Lynches are priceless to us. Why waste one on an Assassin/DT/Liar? Let the assassins deal with him. | ||
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On April 13 2011 23:45 DarthThienAn wrote: How does that go against lynching Coag? ... o.O. If Proact dies tonight, then someone did our job for us, assuming he's mafia... I'm not arguing for or against lynching Coag. I'm saying don't lynch Coag based upon anything a confirmed liar posted. I'm saying don't waste a lynch on Proact. Coag claimed to be a vet. Somebody shoot him. | ||
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Of those 8 are scum. Of those 27 remaining X amount are assassins. Let's use the number 3 that Proact gave us. We are down to 24 townies and 11 scum. CubeDin replaced 1 player and drew town. With a 30% chance of drawing scum each time he replaces the odds are he has drawn scum the second time around. Lynch CubeDin. Makes as much sense as listening to Proact. | ||
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On April 14 2011 03:49 Lemonwalrus wrote: Actually, you are indeed slightly more likely than anyone else in the game to be mafia since all of our roles were 'chosen' when it was 8/40 mafia, and your current role was 'chosen' when it was 8/35. However I think this is a dumb way to hunt scum. Was entirely my point. So is taking the word of a confirmed liar. Coag may very well be scum. How the hell would you know? Because he's aggressive? Because he's not as aggressive? BECAUSE HE TYPES IN CAPS sometimes? Because he had pizza for lunch? If anybody can seriously tell me that they can read coag please do. And back it with analysis that is not based upon FW's. I am not defending Coag. He may very well be scum. If PMs were allowed in this game I could probably tell you with damn near 100% certainty what he was. But they are not so I'm stuck reading his capitalized dick swinging just like the rest of you. And that is exactly how he plays in every game regardless of his alignment. Let a vigi shoot him. End of. We're wasting time. I'm done on the subject. I agree with Barundar. Either GMarshall or DocH is scum. I'm leaning towards GMarshall. When he was scum with me in Mini V he played as the consummate nice guy. Very little FoSing. Lots of agreeing and complimenting other players. I see some of that at work here. I still see some of his normal town play though. But the way he plays scum matches more with the way he's playing this time around. | ||
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On April 14 2011 05:04 LSB wrote: lol. Since when has Coagulation done analysis? Lynch Flamewheel. I don't see any benefit in keeping him alive That's a wasted lynch. I see no benefit in keeping him alive either. Both scum and assassins have motivation to kill him. Let them deal with him. Let a vig shoot Coag. I'd rather lynch the mayor or the pardoner. Preferably GMarshall. Neither fill me with warm fuzzies. | ||
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On April 14 2011 05:12 LSB wrote: Can you link me an analysis of GMarshal/DocH? Because I'd rather not lynch a mayor this early in the game. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=8775164 That's GMarshalls analysis of DocH. I'll try to find more for you but I'm at work right now. Probably after I get home tonight. I always explain my actions. Maybe not well and maybe after the fact. But I do. | ||
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On April 14 2011 05:20 ilovejonn wrote: Oh right, he will die if we don't medic protect him. That means we just need to shoot Coag at night, and for the mean time find someone worthy of a lynch that is not Coag/Protact. Sounds like a good plan to me. | ||
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On April 14 2011 05:27 Robellicose wrote: I'm fairly convinced from reading everyone's arguments that coag is red, so I'm sticking with lynching him so we do not waste a vigi hit. I'm convinced of m0nsterchefs scumminess too, but I'd rather the lynch went on a mafia player who's being really active - if the mafia mouthpiece dies, others will have to start speaking up to derail our analysis, and it'll give us some good targets to pressure if a lurker starts speaking up after someone who's been active flips red. Coag may be red. Entirely within the realm of possibility. What is entirely outside the realm of possibility is the scum team making coag some sort of mouthpiece. Actually that would be hilarious. FUCK YOU MORONS!!!!!! I"M SPEAKING FOR THE GODDAMN SCUM TEAM!!!!!! | ||
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On April 14 2011 08:12 M0nsterChef wrote: I'm a tracker. I tracked RedFF and he didn't go anywhere. You're either scum or stupid. Alright. I have been gently calling Coag and GMarshall scum since the beginning of night 0. A little more so today. I gotta believe scum has seen this. Looking over the people we lost last night I can't quite understand why CubeDin v1 who was just put in the game would have been killed over me. Same with tnkted. He did a lot of analysis but most of it's wrong because he doesn't understand the mechanics of the game. Both GMarshall and Coag know that once I start calling somebody scum I don't quit. If either were scum I gotta believe I would be dead rather than Cube and Twinkles (Miss you my love). Rean didn't post a lot in Insane. I was actually surprised he turned up blue in that game. But his posts weren't bullshit laden cesspools. Serajatroll is another one I would love to lynch. Neither are town oriented. They both play the idiot card. I would rather see either of them go. Neither are an asset. Both are very likely scum. I'm going to vote for Rean. | ||
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On April 14 2011 08:29 aidnai wrote: yeah, probably just a newbie mistake. For any others out there--don't roleclaim to defend yourself unless your lynch is imminent. This was a mistake because there are no votes on him yet and there's 30+ hours left in the day. We don't even get definitive info on redff But it is less likely that he's scum... Or they're both scum | ||
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Or maybe scum were as curious as the rest of us as to what he was. I dunno. The only one that makes any real sense at all as far as active townies is Darm. Maybe they were just randomly searching for a bodyguard. | ||
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On April 14 2011 09:22 LSB wrote:I have a neutral read on Rean, however I'd rather lynch Rean over Coagulation. I'd rather lynch your mother than Coag right now. I have the utmost respect for FW and his analytical skills. However he lied. His gambit failed. He lied. His motivations are obscured by his lies. I cannot accept anything he says. And to base a lynch upon his "analysis" or anything else he says is fucking stupid. I've run gambits before. More than once. Every time I have I fully expected to be lynched for my troubles. I accept that fate if I don't pull it off. I never lied in my gambits. I may have posted things that were unverifiable. I may have pissed a lot of people off in the process but I never lied. The only thing any townie can maintain a hold on is his or her own credibility. If you throw that away you're on your own. Would you guys listen to Pandain if he called somebody scum right now? (Ya I know he's dead) It's the same thing. We need to move on and push people that are lurking. Rean kevconsim TranceStorm Eiii urashimakt Lemonwalrus Milkyst DropBear The_Roist jaminz DarthThienAn AirbladeOrange MetalFace M0nsterChef Serejai Mig aidnai Conversion I'll bet you 20 bucks there are 6 scum in there. If not more. Protactinium has been awfully silent since his declaration. Wtf is up with that. If he were a DT he would be in here defending his claim | ||
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On April 14 2011 09:26 urashimakt wrote: This bit was particularly interesting. The only reason I can see for being openly rude to the mafia team is in trying to endear yourself to the town. A townie could have reason to do this, sure, but I find it would probably come more naturally to someone who felt obligated. It's also interesting because, as night fell, you came out with a pretty specific list on who you wanted blues to go to work on. When no one really responded to it, you attempted to prompt responses to see whether other people were in agreement. I felt that was really anti-town because it would help mafia know who to avoid wasting KP on or getting caught killing/drugging, and who to hit: the "less important" individuals. I think it might be worth noting. I'm openly rude to scum all the time. Fuck you scum. See. Occasionally I've been rude to fellow townies as well. | ||
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On April 14 2011 09:56 GMarshal wrote: Oh that reminds me I still want famewheel to respond to my question of what was the exact result he got back for coag. Jackal, I propose we pressure the following five: TranceStorm -because one of the dead suspected him AirbladeOrange - because I think he comes off as scummy Mig jaminz kevconsim then if we get responses that satisfy us we move onto another set of five. I don't thing half of them understand the concept of pressure. Either with votes or FoS in the thread. Hell jaminz and Mig might end up getting modkilled. | ||
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On April 14 2011 13:18 kitaman27 wrote: Who are these people you are referring to that you believe to be mafia? I would also like to know that. | ||
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On April 14 2011 23:24 CubEdIn wrote: /facepalm as to how lynch got horribly derailed. Guys. Keep it together. Keep it together where? On Coag? | ||
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On April 15 2011 00:45 Barundar wrote:I don't like that you refuse to have an opinion on coag either. Like chaoser said, him lieing or not holds no relevance for his case. Bullshit. It makes everything he says suspect. As far as I know he pulled Coags name out of his ass. | ||
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On April 15 2011 01:06 Barundar wrote: @GM Doesn't mean you can't have an opinion on him, coag's meta is no where as solid as a player like Ace. You just ignored that I critized your analysis of AO and went on a rant about coag, I guess you are more touchy on the last issue? @Jackal Yeah we don't have to believe his DT claim. His arguments are like any other arguments though, you either agree or disagree. LSB lied so much in last game that I stopped looking at the arguments against chaoser and just wanted him dead, which turned out to be a huge mistake as you know. I know. And I'm waiting for somebody to tell me how hard I'm defending Coag. I'm not defending Coag. I'm completely dismissing what Proact says. He has an agenda that is neither town nor scum. I honestly have no idea what we get lynching Coag. I just feel that doing so furthers the agenda of another unknown quantity in Proact and I think we should all avoid it. | ||
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On April 15 2011 01:25 Barundar wrote: @Jackal: You have solid argumentation and clear opinions so far. I guess the moment you aren't obvious town we should lynch you asap . I agree with your argument, my counter argument would be: But why did he pick out coag? He must believe in his case. That makes it worth listening to. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on that one.Sorry. You'll have to wait for another game. As far as picking Coag goes - My best guess is you pick the guy nobody can analyze to further your DT claim. | ||
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On April 15 2011 04:47 Rean wrote: Why, are you letting your scumbuddy's revenge-kill? That's just BM man :< You tell us. What are you guys going to do tonight? Seriously. If Coag flips green or blue I'm gonna mount your ass on my wall as a trophy. | ||
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On April 15 2011 04:55 Protactinium wrote: After refusing to address my actual points, the pressured pardoner finally concedes that the analysis is strong. Yet he doesn't want to vote Coagulation. This is a mafia who doesn't want to commit to bussing a teammate. Anyway, due to the lack of votes for GMarshal, I'm going to switch back to Coagulation. When GMarshal pardons though, don't be surprised. If GMarshall pardons coag we have two successive lynches lined up. 1 if we have a vig with half a brain. Plus you'll be gone. Town win-win-win. Pardon him GMarshall. | ||
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On April 15 2011 08:31 TranceStorm wrote: I just got back to this thread, and jesus christ I have missed so much. Personally, I feel that Serejai is definitely mafia because of his almost complete lack of comprehension in his posts. If you read his comments in some other threads, they seem rational and well thought-out as in he was definitely trying to understand the situation at hand. Here, however, he doesn't act like he's actively trying to understand whats going on and blatantly makes statements that defy logic What motivation would he have for doing so if he were town? From my cursory glance at the thread, no one has seemed to step up and deny that Serejai is probably a mafia, but everyone seems to glide over the issue to focus on other lynch targets. I think this is currently misguided, we can't know for certain if any of those people are mafia or not so we should wait for a few more night actions. On the other hand, we have an almost guaranteed mafia in the form of Serejai. The likelihood that Serejai is mafia is far greater than that of any of the other players, each of whom seems to have lots of supporters and detractors. Coming from a guy that makes the minimal amount of posts. | ||
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On April 15 2011 08:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Yes, I think he is town aligned. No one is taking his posts seriously, he isn't doing anything to affect the lynch/mislead town, he's essentially just posting jokes. It's hard to read that and I think there are bigger fish to deal with. i.e scum actively trying to mislead lynches/town i.e lsb Entirely within the realm of possibility. I have had a feeling since roles went out that coag was scum. If coag is I think it's pretty certain GMarshall is as well. The only thing that pisses me off is this whole thing has been orchestrated by somebody with a 3rd agenda. And I don't know for sure exactly wtf it is. I feel like I'm back in insane. I also feel like I'm being manipulated. Goddamit Flamewheel. Why did you have to go and pull a Pandain.  | ||
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On April 15 2011 09:08 Protactinium wrote: Please read my post. You're just ignoring logic and are building cases off of false assumptions. This is too fucking funny to pass up. | ||
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On April 15 2011 09:16 Protactinium wrote: You didn't read my post! If you don't want to read any of the rest, at least read that one. You'll agree that it makes sense. I did. I read it in it's entirety. I'm sorry. Call it what ever you want but I cannot read anything you say and go along with it. I won't go along with it. I feel like I'm compromising myself if I play your game. I won't do it. | ||
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On April 15 2011 09:35 Protactinium wrote:Hold on. Watch GMarshal grudgingly vote Coagulation all the while complaining about the lynch. Take note of this. This is our Day 3 lynch target. If Coag flips red I'll bring the rope. Hopefully you won't be around to make me feel like a chump. | ||
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On April 15 2011 09:42 Protactinium wrote: Seriously, its getting really obnoxious. Stop trying to keep discredit me. Its not working, get it? Even Mr. scum pardoner was forced to agree with me and vote his scumbuddy. We don't have to. You did that. Man why didn't you just play as Flamewheel and run for mayor without theatrics. You would have had my vote. | ||
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On April 15 2011 09:45 Protactinium wrote: You guys seem to not be making the distinction for when I am talking in the hypothetical and when I am not. Please read it over carefully if you still don't get it. I get it. I really do. You want Coag lynched. It looks like you are going to get your wish. I just don't believe you. I think you are the one that doesn't get it. You lied. Period. It doesn't matter if you are assassin, dt or fucking santa claus. You lied. And it appears I'm not the only one that has a problem with that. | ||
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On April 15 2011 09:47 Protactinium wrote: Again, people keep missing the point. Why be boring and run for mayor normally when you can draw out all the mafia? Look. Everyone is making the false assumption that I was trying to win the mayor election at all costs. That is not true. I am trying to win this game. And even if that means taking the risk of losing the mayor election, look how far its gotten me? This game will be decided once Coagulation flips red. Do me a favor then. Present me with a list of your top 5 scum suspects sans Coag and GMarshall. Who have you outed with this gambit? If you are playing to "win" do it. I highly doubt you'll survive the night. So it's not like you are giving away any life or death information. I have no problems with running gambits. I enjoy doing it. And I know I'm going to piss people off in the process. But I don't do them knowing the final outcome is going to be me dying. If your gambit was to out all the mafia tell me who you outed. | ||
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On April 15 2011 10:02 Protactinium wrote: Like I told Rean earlier, I'll post that after the lynch. After this lynch ends, there is a whole 24 hours before night ends. Relax. It will come. No reason to post it all now when priority number 1 is making sure that mafia don't save Coag. I am relaxed. But I honestly wanted to know what you though before coag flips. | ||
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On April 15 2011 10:27 Lemonwalrus wrote: Don't waste your votes on Protactinium, THEY are probably about to get modkilled. Explain please. I'm about to go to bed and this will give me nightmares. | ||
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On April 15 2011 10:38 Lemonwalrus wrote: If that is cheating, please modkill them, if you believe I have cheated in revealing this, modkill me. Only Proact is in the game. Non issue. | ||
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On April 15 2011 10:55 GMarshal wrote: I'm not letting the assassin win. Hang me if you must. I ran on policy and principles. I will uphold those now. FIGHT FOR THE TOWN! Don't pardon. Let coag die, it will green me and you, and red Flamewheel[/QUOTE] I'm not willing to be reasonable about this. I am sticking to my guns, if it means I die then so fucking be it. See you in hell fw! I do not lynch on the words of someone who is anti town I do not follow a liar I will not allow the town to do the same while it is in my power to prevent it. This isn't about weather or not coag is scum, I dont give a damn if protac guessed right. This is about fighting for my principles And I will be damned, to the pits of hell, if I go back on my principles. [/QUOTE] As soon as you pardon anybody you have forfeited all of your principles. The only thing any of us have when we get to the end of it all is our word. Did I keep it. If you pardon you did not. Don't tell me about your principles. That's my gimmick. Get your own. Oh, I'm sticking to mine. I expect you to do the same. | ||
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On April 15 2011 11:16 GMarshal wrote: Because apparently I need to spell it out. These are principles that transcend this game. There are certain ways the town has to play to play well. There are reasons for LaL, and all my other policies, this isn't about the pardon being anti-town or not. This is about teaching you fools how town should play. If I have to die to prove the point that you are being stupid and playing badly then so be it. At least I will have played like an absolute dumbass Sometimes its about more than just winning. I fixed that for you. If you can't see that doing the one thing you said you would never do compromises your principles more than allowing town to be stupid you really are dense. Fucking Democrats. | ||
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On April 15 2011 11:21 GMarshal wrote:No, the thought didn't even cross my mind. I am not stupid, there are reasons behind what I am doing Jury is still out on that man. | ||
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On April 16 2011 01:00 Qatol wrote: Exactly. If you have a problem with how someone is posting, please PM BrownBear, Meapak, or myself. If you are still unsatisfied after talking to us, then you can use your report button. But I would appreciate the opportunity to deal with things in house before we involve the TL staff. We have a report button??? Also is this game still on? | ||
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On April 16 2011 03:02 GGQ wrote: An update on GGQ's thoughts: Be very careful about listening to flamewheel/protact anymore, on the off chance that he survives the night. The only reason his coagulation analysis was given any weight is because he was trying to convince us that he's a dt so he had to finger a red. He now knows that we all know he's an assassin, so if he's playing to his win condition then we can't trust any further analysis by him. I think I now know why he was keeping his list of other suspects a secret until after the lynch: he wants to use them as a bargaining chip to gain protection. He's now going to say that he is pretty sure of all the mafia and he will tell us who they are if he survives until the morning. Wait for it. I want to question the use of medics/watchers on the bodyguards. I don't want to offend anyone here, but The_Roist and MetalFace are hardly valuable players in and of themselves. And they are protecting DrH, whom I am still not 100% sure is town, and who has (imo) been making pretty bad calls for most of the game (and he's claimed vet, so he'd take two hits for mafia to kill anyway). I would rather see the survival of a few strong town players that have been doing well this game, like chaoser and bumatlarge (though his attempt to take all the credit for lynching GMarshal is insulting at best and suspicious at worst...) and, dare I say it, me. I think the best thing is to have our medics consider protecting the bodyguards (if mafia want to double stack to kill MetalFace or The_Roist, that's ok with me...) and watchers must be on the other players I named, or on other players that they have good town reads on (maybe Barundar or kitaman?). I see the mafia going for other town players, not the mayor tonight, imo. Contradiction much????? | ||
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On April 16 2011 03:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote: The death of the bodyguards is not a good thing. I think the best bet is for the watchers to stick on BG's to deter mafia from hitting them while medics protect bigger town targets. Particularly bumatlarge. You didn't really do much yesterday that I was aware of. You come out today just to criticize me and post thoughts on what blues to do, that hardly warrants medics imo. Yeah I made some bad calls but the flamewheel vs GGQ thing was complex and my plan involving forcing GGQ to use his check would have outed him/coagulation over the course of the night. I still think my analysis on LSB is good and lynching him would have flipped scum. I'm looking over my LSB analysis again and he could very well be assassin. His goal is more focused on hitting Protactinium than it is on saving Coagulation, but he does seem to be in agreeance with GMarshal. When he comes out to attack the pardon he does so very lightly but otherwise ignores GMarshal completely. That sets off a red alarm to me. I admit the kavdragon lynch was a shitty call. Although I don't really think I deserve a lot of criticism for the fact that I didn't hit red it was the fact that I ignored a better case because of my tunneling and that was poor decision making on my part. Regardless, GMarshal the scum pardoner is now dead, I undoubtedly had a role in that. And now hopefully a vig will hit coagulation and an assassin will hit LSB. One of the LSB/ilovejonn camp is certainly an assassin so I really suggest other assassins out there place a hit in that direction. This is the post that made me lean a bit toward black rather than red on LSB: The goal here is to confirm himself (appeals to GMarshal by saying it'll confirm him too) and get rid of Flamewheel. Entirely possible this is part of a plan to fake a vig on Coagulation to save him, but looking at Coag's recent posts it seems he's pretty much being abandoned. Assassin's you have 3 KP. I'm 50/50 scum/assassin read on this guy. You have a pretty good shot with this and if he flips red and not black, I'm certainly not complaining. Watchers/medics whether you care about the bodyguards or not is up to you but I hope we can all agree on those two points: -An assassin should hit LSB -Coagulation should be vig'd Do you mean GMarshall??? | ||
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Wtf difference does it make to us? And you people accuse me of tunneling. | ||
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Nobody ever gives me a gun. | ||
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Goes back to being dead. | ||
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Which one of you nimrods shot me. How did Proact and others manage to play under one name? | ||
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On April 24 2011 12:32 GMarshal wrote: The game was fun, my death day two kind of hurt the mafia, and having two modkills didn't help one bit. Anyway, I dont mind the screwup with the pardoner, mistakes happen, the important part of it is that we learn from them. If its any consolation, I like this new pardoner quite a bit, and I'd like to see it in another game, its fun to have in there, although I'd prefer that it lynch the runner up rather than end the day entirely. Also, awards to chaoser for having me pegged from the start, DropBear and AO for trying hard for me, which is not always easy in a situation as demoralizing as this my lynch seemed day two, and an award to bum for being a battle-medic, I was convinced you were a vet trying to get me to shoot you. Either way gg wp. Its a shame my first run as a mafia team leader ended up with my team being crushed. I had you and Coag both pegged. And then Proact totally fucked over my ability to proceed. I simply could not go along with a liar with 3rd party motivations. Damnation he pissed me off. If he had picked anybody but Coag. | ||
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On April 24 2011 12:48 GMarshal wrote: ]Coag wanted me to lynch you if I got mayor and shoot you night one otherwise, I thought it a poor idea. As far as allying with the assassin, I couldn't understand how any townie in his right mind could even think of it, it was just mindboggling that an assassin got *any* support, at all. I would have rather had him as pardoner than mayor. He would have been a better choice as pardoner than you turned out to be. :p And ya Coag told me he wanted me dead asap. Some git with a gun shot me instead. Why did you think it was a poor idea? Other than hoping a vig would shoot me? I would have used my belief that both of you were scum to find more of you after Proact was dead. But some git with a gun shot me. | ||
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On April 24 2011 13:26 DropBear wrote: It was us who shot you Jackal. Our night 2 kills were you, Lemonwalrus, GGQ and Wiggles. Be back shortly. I'm going to go beat Coag about the head and shoulders. Well mostly head. | ||
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