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On April 12 2011 14:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 14:16 OriginalName wrote:On April 12 2011 14:14 Protactinium wrote:On April 12 2011 14:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Oh well, I don't know what the fuck he was thinking with his posting. Time to reevaluate and move on. This game is built on the assumption that a townie is lynched day 1 but this is a big confidence loss for me.
But we're even more screwed if I get too upset about this. It is what it is.
Dont worry man there'll be some good surprises for us. Let's get this game started. And I still believe you are innocent because mafia would never have dared attempt that in the first place. Anyone who suspects him for that flip should heavily consider that. Thats total WIFOM Mafia could expect that and go for a really ballsy move to kill off a very pro-town player WIFOM works both ways though. So it doesn't help your argument any. In fact all behavioral analysis is on some level WIFOM. I hate overuse of WIFOM because it discourages people from thinking.
i hate WIFOM as much as the next guy but really when you kill somebody who made an arguement against you it doesnt help you much.
Also im sorry for my conduct earlier Im kinda biased towards kav from Insane 2 and figured the two styles just didnt line up for me to consider him scum but I still shouldnt of raged like that.
Im still on the fence about you but really dont go balls to the walls on what can be valuble town assets as mayor next time.
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In addition, the following replacement has happened:
bumatlarge is replacing lanaia. Say hi to bum, everyone!
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On April 12 2011 14:22 BrownBear wrote:
In addition, the following replacement has happened:
bumatlarge is replacing lanaia. Say hi to bum, everyone!
Nice
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On April 12 2011 13:58 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 13:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 12 2011 13:55 Kavdragon wrote:On April 12 2011 13:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 12 2011 13:51 M0nsterChef wrote:
Why do people think I'm still scum? Is there anything other than my poor decision at the beginning at the game that suggests that I am? I think a lot of unnecessary pressure has been put on me because of that stupid beginner mistake. Well it's because you don't really post anything else and now you only show up out of NOWHERE to defend yourself as soon as your name is brought up again. That doesn't look good for you, just sayin. But kavdragon is the real problem here I dare you to lynch me. You are so sure that I'm mafia, eh? I know you won't. You know why? Because you're mafia. There's no need to lynch me and draw suspicion on yourself when you can just kill me tonight. I promise I will lynch you if I am elected mafia and if I go back I encourage the town to lynch me for it. Unvote: GMarshal
Vote: Dr.HelveticaI do this because I know that I don't have the time or the skill to argue with Dr.H. He's really good with words. Don't let him out of this one, town. Lynch him tomorrow.
WOW this is so ANTI Town its not funny.
Wtf are you thinking KAV..
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Let's day one lynch one of the best analysts in the game on day 1 because he post too much advice! Ooops sry guis, lol!
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On April 12 2011 14:23 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 13:58 Kavdragon wrote:On April 12 2011 13:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 12 2011 13:55 Kavdragon wrote:On April 12 2011 13:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 12 2011 13:51 M0nsterChef wrote:
Why do people think I'm still scum? Is there anything other than my poor decision at the beginning at the game that suggests that I am? I think a lot of unnecessary pressure has been put on me because of that stupid beginner mistake. Well it's because you don't really post anything else and now you only show up out of NOWHERE to defend yourself as soon as your name is brought up again. That doesn't look good for you, just sayin. But kavdragon is the real problem here I dare you to lynch me. You are so sure that I'm mafia, eh? I know you won't. You know why? Because you're mafia. There's no need to lynch me and draw suspicion on yourself when you can just kill me tonight. I promise I will lynch you if I am elected mafia and if I go back I encourage the town to lynch me for it. Unvote: GMarshal
Vote: Dr.HelveticaI do this because I know that I don't have the time or the skill to argue with Dr.H. He's really good with words. Don't let him out of this one, town. Lynch him tomorrow. WOW this is so ANTI Town its not funny. Wtf are you thinking KAV..
Cause he thought GM was scum? Yeah.
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On April 12 2011 14:22 OriginalName wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 14:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 12 2011 14:16 OriginalName wrote:On April 12 2011 14:14 Protactinium wrote:On April 12 2011 14:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Oh well, I don't know what the fuck he was thinking with his posting. Time to reevaluate and move on. This game is built on the assumption that a townie is lynched day 1 but this is a big confidence loss for me.
But we're even more screwed if I get too upset about this. It is what it is.
Dont worry man there'll be some good surprises for us. Let's get this game started. And I still believe you are innocent because mafia would never have dared attempt that in the first place. Anyone who suspects him for that flip should heavily consider that. Thats total WIFOM Mafia could expect that and go for a really ballsy move to kill off a very pro-town player WIFOM works both ways though. So it doesn't help your argument any. In fact all behavioral analysis is on some level WIFOM. I hate overuse of WIFOM because it discourages people from thinking. i hate WIFOM as much as the next guy but really when you kill somebody who made an arguement against you it doesnt help you much. Also im sorry for my conduct earlier Im kinda biased towards kav from Insane 2 and figured the two styles just didnt line up for me to consider him scum but I still shouldnt of raged like that. Im still on the fence about you but really dont go balls to the walls on what can be valuble town assets as mayor next time.
I'm actually glad I didn't second guess myself. I was wrong but I've spent my entire "scumhunting" career never sticking to my guns and this kind of confidence is going to make me dangerous when I tighten my analysis up, I think.
Since I know I'm town I'm incredibly wary of anyone who goes out of their way to defame me. That is kind of the lynchpin of why I dislike Barundar's posting in this game. I sort of use it as a jjumping point, because I know the mafia want me out of this game.
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On April 12 2011 14:25 Barundar wrote:
Let's day one lynch one of the best analysts in the game on day 1 because he post too much advice! Ooops sry guis, lol!
laugh it up cause I'm asking to lynch you next :3
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Lets say there is 8 mafia men. and 3 assassins (idk how many but i that was the number people were saying. that is 11 non town people. there are 28 others for DOC H to Lynch.
That means that he has a 11/39(28.2051282%) chance of getting an assassin or scum.
Knowing that Protact is an alleged assassin means that he wont hit him so it becomes 10/38(25.6410256%)
Basically he had a 1/4 chance of hitting a scum. He missed big deal that doesnt mean much. Some of Kav's posting looked bad to him he had a gut feeling and went for it and missed.
This just means hes gonna work harder.
My 2 pennies
Sincerely,
Kevconsim
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On April 12 2011 14:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 14:25 Barundar wrote:
Let's day one lynch one of the best analysts in the game on day 1 because he post too much advice! Ooops sry guis, lol! laugh it up cause I'm asking to lynch you next :3
Its still true though -_-
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Perfect, more lambs to the slaughter.
Pro town drh would not be so quick to lynch off every active player in this game. I wonder how long it will take town to see that 
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kitaman27
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chaoser, why hide your intentions to support DrH in a last second vote?
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On April 12 2011 14:28 Barundar wrote:Perfect, more lambs to the slaughter. Pro town drh would not be so quick to lynch off every active player in this game. I wonder how long it will take town to see that
i dunno have you been reading the thread
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It is night. I will now cease posting because I don't like talking at night. I will post this baseline advice once more. Detectives should read this carefully and heed it well.
On April 12 2011 08:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 08:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:yeah im feeling really bad about redFF right now but what purpose doeshe really have to tunnel ON and m0nsterchef so hard if he's mafia. his actions don't really make sense from either alignment to me (but I assume everyone is good, my main error) but he's made a lot of points I agree with so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. IMO redFF would make a great DT check. Here's one of the few times I'll give advice for blues in this game. DETECTIVES FUCKING READ THIS i accidentally hit enter woops DETECTIVES FUCKING READ THIS INSTEAD:Let's say you investigate your target and you get a hit! They're scum! Well, is it time to roleclaim and reveal your results? Hell fucking no it is not. If you do that you will die and now have no worth in the late game.But DrH! I can just request constant medic protection!And now the medics are busy protecting you and not someone else who is gonna get hit. If the mafia know for sure who medics will protect, it doesn't reduce their KP. You WANT the mafia to hit those targets, you WANT them to guess wrongly about where medics are going. Ok so what do you do with your result? Well go look at their posts. Go to their profile, go to their posts, and read fucking eeeeeeeeeeeeeverything they've posted. Come up with a case. Now you have the confidence to call them out, use their posts as evidence and support. Now take your case and sit on it for a while. Because some good townie (or another DT) will probably FoS that person. This is a great jumping off point for you to introduce your case. If there is already suspicion, let that suspicion grow, add fuel to the fire, then introduce your stronger points (the fact that they are scum is made much more obvious in your posting now that you have your check for confidence) and make a strong case during this aggression to nail the lynch. If YOU cold start the bandwagon and are really the only one making all these great points, the mafia is thinking "Well I guess we found our DT" and you're dead. If you're lucky you get medic protection but if the mafia is sure you're the DT I wouldn't be surprised if they doublestacked. I don't suggest using code/hints/breadcrumbs because the mafia can decipher this juuuuuuuuust as easily as the town can. In fact, they can decipher it better because they are in contact with each other.
MEDICS
Don't protect protact, that's all.
WATCHERS -
Go for people you think will be hit. If you are a fucking genius and think you can predict the roleblocker then go for that, but stick with that. Pretend you are a medic.
TRACKER -
Go for people you think are scum. Your job is NOT TO CONFIRM BLUES. Your job is to track scum targets and see if they are implicated in someones death.
If a mafia is tracked, will he automatically show up as "visiting" someone who was killed? Can you elaborate as MUCH as possible on how mafia kills are determined?
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i have an idea
Watch protact so that if someone kills him you can out that they are assasins so there are less random kp's in the game.
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On April 12 2011 14:34 kevconsim wrote:
i have an idea
Watch protact so that if someone kills him you can out that they are assasins so there are less random kp's in the game.
read the rules again
this is an impossiblity
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On April 12 2011 14:34 kevconsim wrote:
i have an idea
Watch protact so that if someone kills him you can out that they are assasins so there are less random kp's in the game.
Assassins cant shoot N1
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I would just like to say
EBWOP:
I am a retard
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On April 12 2011 14:23 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 13:58 Kavdragon wrote:On April 12 2011 13:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 12 2011 13:55 Kavdragon wrote:On April 12 2011 13:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 12 2011 13:51 M0nsterChef wrote:
Why do people think I'm still scum? Is there anything other than my poor decision at the beginning at the game that suggests that I am? I think a lot of unnecessary pressure has been put on me because of that stupid beginner mistake. Well it's because you don't really post anything else and now you only show up out of NOWHERE to defend yourself as soon as your name is brought up again. That doesn't look good for you, just sayin. But kavdragon is the real problem here I dare you to lynch me. You are so sure that I'm mafia, eh? I know you won't. You know why? Because you're mafia. There's no need to lynch me and draw suspicion on yourself when you can just kill me tonight. I promise I will lynch you if I am elected mafia and if I go back I encourage the town to lynch me for it. Unvote: GMarshal
Vote: Dr.HelveticaI do this because I know that I don't have the time or the skill to argue with Dr.H. He's really good with words. Don't let him out of this one, town. Lynch him tomorrow. WOW this is so ANTI Town its not funny. Wtf are you thinking KAV..
once again, I agree totally with you coag... lynching kav was dumb, but kav played it even dumber. I think he wasn't hamming it up enough with his buddies Ver and Foolishness lol.
Kav, for future reference, your scum read on DrH is questionable (I mean, we'll see when he flips eventually but I don't think it's a good read). And as for fostering a good thread environment, far better to lead by example than to do EXACTLY WHAT RADFIELD DID IN SALEM?!?! I stuck my neck out further than I wanted for you, but you just kept digging your hole deeper 
Kav and DrH both made the same mistake: tunneling a player day1 because they were active and approached the thread in a way that didn't make sense to them. I bet Kav would have lynched DrH if he had been elected, and it would have been every bit as dumb...
And yes, protact is right, that flip doesn't mean DrH is mafia. But I do hope DrH will slow down and think more... I love how at the end there, it was
"Only way you could read me as scum is if you're scum"
"Only way you could think that is if you're scum"
"Only ...
Lo and behold, DrH and Kav are both so dumb, they must be scum...
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