EPTLatrommi United States. April 12 2011 14:00. Posts 31 PM Profile Report Quote #
##Vote Gmarshal
##Vote Gmarshal
WTF where did this come from, a last minute vote by someone who has barely posted on GM. Yeah, Ok
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WTF where did this come from, a last minute vote by someone who has barely posted on GM. Yeah, Ok | ||
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On April 12 2011 14:03 AirbladeOrange wrote: Ah shit. I wished I had read Marshal's post before time expired. On April 12 2011 14:04 M0nsterChef wrote: Agh crap, I was seriously considering changing votes, just because of all the stuff that has happened recently, until I realized time was up. All of a fucking sudden people come out of the woodworks "just as time ends". | ||
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On April 12 2011 14:06 GMarshal wrote: ... ... ... ... I am speechless, why did you vote for me? having read only a few pages? Thats irresponsible! You should have put your vote on someone with no chance in order to abstain. You realize how terribly bad this makes you look? How forced. Usually you'd say "It's not like I can control them in voting it". It makes both of you look bad. | ||
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On April 12 2011 14:22 BrownBear wrote: In addition, the following replacement has happened: bumatlarge is replacing lanaia. Say hi to bum, everyone! Nice | ||
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On April 12 2011 14:23 Coagulation wrote: WOW this is so ANTI Town its not funny. Wtf are you thinking KAV.. Cause he thought GM was scum? Yeah. | ||
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On April 12 2011 14:29 kitaman27 wrote: chaoser, why hide your intentions to support DrH in a last second vote? I didn't hide anything. I said I would vote Prot. You can see that I was slowly getting more and more suspicious of GM as the day went on. His play style is considerably different from what I know of him. It's not like it's a complete change either, it's just slight changes that are more what mafia would do. I'm not sure yet if he is or not but he's on my FoS screen for sure. I changed because I was less suspicious of DrH when compared to GM. Also I knew that Prot would have wanted me to vote DrH anyway cause he feels the exact same way about GM as I do. ON should have been lynched. GM switching to AirBladeOrange in case he got mayor sends off all kinds of scum bells. I'm going to do a PbP of ON soon and I hope to see him lynched tomorrow. | ||
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On April 12 2011 14:44 chaoser wrote: I didn't hide anything. I said I would vote Prot. You can see that I was slowly getting more and more suspicious of GM as the day went on. His play style is considerably different from what I know of him. It's not like it's a complete change either, it's just slight changes that are more what mafia would do. I'm not sure yet if he is or not but he's on my FoS screen for sure. I changed because I was less suspicious of DrH when compared to GM. Also I knew that Prot would have wanted me to vote DrH anyway cause he feels the exact same way about GM as I do. ON should have been lynched. GM switching to AirBladeOrange in case he got mayor sends off all kinds of scum bells. I'm going to do a PbP of ON soon and I hope to see him lynched tomorrow. BTW, before anyone goes omg how you know what he was thinking?! It's in his fucking posts everywhere. He clearly trusts DrH more than GM, as do I. | ||
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On April 12 2011 14:50 Coagulation wrote: how could you support a day 1 kav lynch. It just baffles me how you could be town and be OK with that. I wasn't ok with a day 1 kav lynch. I was hoping he wouldn't do it. I'm even less ok with a mafia in mayor position which is why I picked the lesser of two evils. | ||
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On April 12 2011 14:52 Coagulation wrote: I had a town read on marsh all game. Doch is the only one that made me skeptical with the lynch kav shit. A difference of opinions which only time will tell who is right. I hope you get some good scum reads like you usually do coag. | ||
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On April 12 2011 14:55 darmousseh wrote: I'm mostly in agreement with this, but it's because I had a anti-town read on kav, and the way he went down was very anti-town. I was considering switching the vote for gmarshal towards the end, but kav just screwed town. You really think mafia would go out of his way to try to help newbies get involved and more active within the game even though it would be "easy conversation"? Mafia wants newbies to be lurky and inactive so that they can hide amongst them. | ||
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On April 12 2011 15:02 bumatlarge wrote: Ok First off let me get this out of the way. Reading through, I was pretty certain Kav and kitaman were town. I felt they were obvious mayor picks over the competition. Dr. H is playing really aggressively, and I am not convinced that is that helpful for town after everyone including scum agreed that we need a leader-ish thing. Dr.H will lead to a lot of clashing, but whats done is done, so Im going to ignore that Kav was lynched, pretend it never happened. GMarshal and chaoser are scum. I will try to get the analysis done tonight, but I defintely won't be including recent events, as I'm not halfway through the thread. Prot should never have been considered for mayoral position since in no way shape or form is he ever going to fufill a leader/analysis role. Catastrophe waiting to happen. He could be scum, but let assasins hit him, it destroys the normal KP that would be happening, and it gives town such an advantage that it never would have had til later. Knowing who is throwing KP around gives very solid trails. Every PYP game will show you that. Im probably repeating what somebody already said, so you can ignore that. I am absolutely baffled at how you let GMarshal get pardoner, it blows my mind. Have you read his posts? The wishiest washiest "This is what this guy said, this is what I agree with and points on what happening BLAHBLAHBLAH" Nonsense posts. Haven't found a single useful one. Town meta my ass. He's scum. Chaoser same thing. You can't even start an arguement that they both ran for mayor. Go look at pages 15-25 and how many time chaoser switches his votes around. There is no reason to do any of that so early since mayor picks are usually whims anyway. It just causes confusion. I guess you haven't read all of the thread...I've been calling GM scum for a while now. I was even one of the last few votes to push him out of mayor seat. If he is scum he just have to lynch him before he can effectively lose his pardon. I switched from Prot I think to Myself back to Prot in the beginning | ||
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On April 12 2011 15:09 bumatlarge wrote: Have you analyzed him yet? Given something that town can be convinced of that he is scum? Or have you just "accused" him. Last game, I blatantly stated orgolove was mafia, and RoL was the first person to agree with me. RoL was scum. Just sit tight choaser, and get your frownie face emoticons ready. I guess I'll twiddle my thumbs too? I actually have analyzed him to a certain degree. I stated that the people voting for him are the ones he's threatening to lynch but in the end he chose AirbladeOrange. He said that he was very sure ON was mafia and would lynch him in the beginning but then picked on AO instead. I've already written somewhat on the fact that I think ON is mafia so this sent off big warnings for me. I also said that his play style is different from what it was last game but slightly different which makes me think he is mafia since it's a forced difference. If I was mafia there's no reason for me to make last minute moves on him and also to come down so strongly on him. Read the last few pages, I've been pretty much all over him. | ||
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On April 12 2011 15:09 bumatlarge wrote: Have you analyzed him yet? Given something that town can be convinced of that he is scum? Or have you just "accused" him. Last game, I blatantly stated orgolove was mafia, and RoL was the first person to agree with me. RoL was scum. Just sit tight choaser, and get your frownie face emoticons ready. BTW, I haven't been wishy washy with my votes. On April 11 2011 02:39 chaoser wrote: ##vote: Prot On April 12 2011 13:59 chaoser wrote: ##unvote Prot ##Vote DrH My only two votes in the voting thread. I think I said I would vote myself once between these two but I didn't even actually do it. So yeah. Getting on ON PbP now | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On April 10 2011 13:33 OriginalName wrote: Well GMarshal you actually put forward an agreeable plan. Lynching My really base reads right now are GMarshal is town. Ive been on a scumteam with him he has more holes than swiss cheese. However as a mayor I would like to know what his plans are after Day 1 as lets face it D1 lynch is a damn crapshoot 80% of the time and when I vote I want more long term goals and ideas in mind Im not amazing at reads however if people do put forward them I will take the time to look at their scum reads. Another thing - one thing I picked up from a vet and I think we ought to start doing is analysing tge posts of those nightkilled. Imagine if we looked at GMs reads in insane 2 GF may have been outed faster creating a completely different game (ie Blacks wouldnt have made enough money for the names). So there ##Vote Gmarshal and all dat jazz. He gives super shitty reasoning to voting GM, basically saying he'd vote for him cause GM said he would lynch lurkers. He asks GM what GM's plans are for the future, GM doesn't really ever address it and then ON never mentions it ever again. Interesting enough, he votes for GM hours after this post On April 11 2011 06:07 OriginalName wrote: ##Vote Gmarshal Just before this post, however, Prot did his ballsy move of claiming Assassin and running for office. But ON doesn't respond to it or acknowledges it even though it was a mere 15 minutes before his post when it was the talk of the town. (Prot claimed at 13:18) + Show Spoiler + On April 11 2011 06:03 OriginalName wrote: Back from RL issues. Im gonna recap to myself what happened along wkth opinions Protact getting support - Why is near confirmed non town getting an elected role. PANDAIN CLAIMING DT - What. The. Fuck. Was my first reaction. my second how do we know hes not lying. Sure theres no counterclaim but who would counterclaim D1 DT, theres likely more than one so how would we know yatta yatta add in wifom done mafia has a free dt kill D1 we get no breadcrumbs. Second its completely safe for panda to claim DT as scum. Scumteam elects him as Godfather and even if DT checks and confirms its like DF all over again (minus the D2 victory). How has Pandain only gotten the your an idiot reaction- Hes just abusing his metagame to fuck with town FOS Pandain Im goin to keep my vote on GM cause as wishy washy as people are making him out to be hes still quite protown. He repeats the exact same thing that's been said multiple times by people, picking two of the easiest topics to talk about. Doesn't look at Kav, kita, or fully at GM. Im goin to keep my vote on GM cause as wishy washy as people are making him out to be hes still quite protown He even continues to say that GM is wishy washy but he's still protown On April 11 2011 06:58 OriginalName wrote: My scum reads: Pandain - Fakeclaim into lolno sorry not DT Protact - Assassin or Mafia Kavs arguement against him is solid My not sure reads: DrH - Why so aggro bro? Leaning scum Chaoser - Leaning pro town would be imo a great pardoner Everyone not listed (Most leaning town to various degrees) Town Reads: Kavdragon - This is not his scum style at all GMarshal Tnk Quoting DrH for this one On April 11 2011 07:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote: great analysis thx 4 contributing He says almost nothing that is his own, puts out weak ass one line analysis. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=204956¤tpage=45#888 First real analysis of any sort on Mig and comes up with lurking townie. Not much to say + Show Spoiler + On April 11 2011 09:20 OriginalName wrote: Thanks for being sane Coag ^_^ Also redFF the reason im restating something is because SOME PEOPLE *cough* are not getting the picture Protact and scumhunt his ass off and I wouldnt get an honest shit about most of his opinions, and neither should you. Im merely picking THE ONE CANDIDATE that is actually feasable in my mind. Kav just has too much heat on him to deserve 2 bodyguards at this point. DrH i have my worries towards but in my mind hes still a better choice for a pardoner then an Assassin, do note ASSASSINS ARE NOT TOWN I dont care if he decides that he cant backstab us HES NOT TOWN, he could be fakeclaiming red to try to get into an advantagous position what does that mean HES STILL NOT TOWN! a TOWNIE MAYOR is better than a NON-TOWNIE MAYOR Pleas go back and note the difference between TOWN and NON-TOWN (ie SCUM). Clearly says he did not read/care much for Protact's posts. Still doesn't give solid reasons why GM is feasible in his mind. On April 12 2011 14:14 OriginalName wrote: Not in tge slightest Extreme Finger of Suspicion: DocterHelvetica On April 12 2011 14:16 OriginalName wrote: Thats total WIFOM Mafia could expect that and go for a really ballsy move to kill off a very pro-town player Counter argues that his point is WIFOM by saying the argument against him is...WIFOM. Very much against DrH and all over him. On April 12 2011 14:22 OriginalName wrote: i hate WIFOM as much as the next guy but really when you kill somebody who made an arguement against you it doesnt help you much. Also im sorry for my conduct earlier Im kinda biased towards kav from Insane 2 and figured the two styles just didnt line up for me to consider him scum but I still shouldnt of raged like that. Im still on the fence about you but really dont go balls to the walls on what can be valuble town assets as mayor next time. Backs off when the heat comes on. Two things are suspicious to me. 1) He bounced when Prot's post came on, waited till later to respond to it 2) Never gives good reasons to vote GM 3) Repeats things others have been saying This combined with my uneasiness with GM and also GM's late change of his lynch target should he have been lynched from ON to AO makes me think he is scum | ||
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You enjoy the same bodyguard-protection the mayor has. You are not immune to lynch, and if you are the lynch target, you may not pardon yourself. | ||
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