EPTTL Mafia XXXVIII - Page 6
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On April 12 2011 12:54 GMarshal wrote: Kita I think your supporters have to move their votes to me to make sure that the assassin dosn't get into the town elected roles. GM, respond to my post. When would it happen that proct being pardoner, would turn our game from winning to losing? | ||
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On April 12 2011 12:59 GMarshal wrote: I dont know for sure, it would be a weird situation for sure, however its not impossible, and as policy we don't give ourselves the chance to lose stupidly. Its like giving coag a bomb, a poor idea. Let me ask you a question, what incentive does the assassin have to actually help town once elected? what is he afraid of, us lynching him? He knows we wont waste a lynch like that. So if you want him to have free reign then sure elect him, otherwise fight for the town, damnit. Assassin has tons of incentive: 1) Not getting his ass lynched (he can't pardon himself) cause he didn't help town Why would we not waste a lynch like that? It's not a wasted lynch. It's a game ending lynch to him. He doesn't want to lose obviously. It's not like his win condition is in direct opposition to ours. It's more like it's in parallel and maybe it like cross ours. I really don't think it will. I'd rather have someone I'm sure is black in office than this WIFOM tip toeing who you be red/green situation. Look how confused town is right now with all it's switch voting. 2) He helps us, we help him. If our DTs find an assassin, we can tell him when and where we want. That's a bargaining chip WE have. Why would he throw that service out the window? You went from no to assassin to maybe to vehemently no again. Can I ask why? I understood the transition for the first switch but what's the transition for the second switch? | ||
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On April 12 2011 13:02 GMarshal wrote: Either because of the chaos it will cause (and there will be people scrutinizing him every minute of the day, and making accusations of him being scum) , or because he isn't an assassin at all, just a really, really ballsy mafia He'd be more like a retarded mafia, not a ballsy mafia. All the things that he would have to do to prove himself as "real assassin" would directly benefit town. Fake a shot? Less KP used by mafia (they'd have to stack or something and also this would cause suspicion) Fake a DT claim? We's see through it in a day. We control his actions. Yes he can do against us. But then he automatically loses the game. Why would he do that? | ||
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On April 12 2011 13:11 Lemonwalrus wrote: The assassin does not have the same win condition as us. He will help us (or more likely make it look like he is helping us) in so far as we can get him closer to his win condition. If we vote proct in as mayor or pardoner we will be putting quite a few of the proverbial marbles into the hands of a man that does not have our best interests at heart. He wants meatshield bodyguards, and he is willing to promise you whatever it takes to get them. Don't vote for proct. I guess it comes down to trust and I trust prot as an assassin more than GM/DrH as ???. | ||
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1.) It absolutely is a wasted lynch, any easy lynch or a lynch that dosn't get scum is a wasted lynch. Mislynching is bad, but it gives information if town decided to hang protac it would be a wagon with no information, it would be just as bad as him getting off a pardon 1) We'd never want to mislynch for info anyway. 2) By the time it comes to a situation where we need to lynch him, we'd already have used his two shots and his check. I think that's a profit for us. Sorry you don't see it the same way. I'm sticking my vote on him. We talk about analysts and leaders for mayor and he's clearly shown that not only does he know how to analyse a situation with his previous posts but also that he's good at it. Much more than you are, no offense. | ||
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On April 12 2011 13:18 GMarshal wrote: I dont think so, but I am partial to myself since I know my alignment, if you want theres a nice third party assassin that dosn't share our objectives who is just drooling over your vote as his life depends on it. See there it is again. You've NEVER antagonized and vilified someone like that before. Your posts are usually just straight talk express. This game I've been getting weird vibes. Hope you ain't pulling a McCain. | ||
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On April 12 2011 13:22 Coagulation wrote: SEE KENPACHI GETS IT. YOU OTHER GUYS HAVE NO EXCUSE NOW. Everyone's so damn scared of this shit. If prot never came out we'd be in the same situation of assassins shooting into the crowd. What's the difference with him in office? We get to use his powers, assassins will still be shooting into the crowd. His positives outweigh his negatives. By far in my opinion. | ||
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On April 12 2011 13:26 Lemonwalrus wrote: Mafia cannot be assassins Mafia will not kill each other an assassin mayors best play will be to try and direct lynches towards townies He wants all 8 mafia shooting into the town as long as possible he wants townies (some of which are his enemies) to die as quickly as possible voting a known assassin into mayor will help scum please point out a flaw in this logic if you can find one Thats the flaw. Why would voting an assassin into office help mafia again? | ||
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On April 12 2011 13:32 jaminz wrote: I realize I've been inactive for pretty much the entire game so far, and I don't really have a great excuse other than that I've been a bit busy lately. However, I'm working my way through the thread right now, and plan to be completely caught up by the end of the night. I've only played one game of Mafia before (Haunted Mafia this past Halloween - put on by Doctor H), so I'm still fairly new to the game, but I'm doing what I can to take everything in. Thanks in advance for everyone being patient with me. Claims he needs to catch up. On April 12 2011 08:49 jaminz wrote: ##Vote Doctor Helevetica Voted DrH hours in advance | ||
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On April 12 2011 13:34 Lemonwalrus wrote: The lines above the one you bolded are the explanation laid out in very simple terms he WANTS TOWNIES TO DIE it gets him closer to his win condition And him not being elected will somehow change this? Townies are going to die whether he wants them to or not. It's not in his hands to control. At least in this situation we get to have control of TWO KP and he'll use his last on assassin. | ||
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On April 12 2011 13:45 GMarshal wrote: Dr.H the abridged version of my case since it isn't written out. Votes for me becuase I am "flashy" and have pics in my campaign, proposes you as a lynch target which I think is unwaranted, wants you to kill him, which to me seems like the argument a scum would try to pull to look either town or stupid. he throws around some wifom arguments about what it means if you were not elected and got hit by scum. Argues against hitting inactives/lurkers and most of his posts scream filler at me, his post about the mayoral candidates is substanceless yet long. The other bulk of his posts want to lynch m0nster or ON, which was an easy thing to ask for . He just strikes me as scum. Sorry for not actually writing it PbP, no time Sorry for not actually writing it PbP, no time Bullshit. Even when you didn't have time in Insane 2 you did it. You're playing different this game and I can feel it. You even did it in XXXVII in the pm circle with me and barundar. I don't know if it's you getting frustrated (which, even when you did, you didn't pull stuff like this) or something but you' | ||
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On April 12 2011 13:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Well it's pretty obvious at this point protact isn't getting anywhere. I think you should vote for me chaoser. It's too late at this point for a significant shift from Gmarshal -> protact to put me and him in the lead. If you don't trust him your best bet is to cut your losses and ensure he doesn't get mayor. I will do no such thing. Prot is, in my opinion, the best choice and I intend to stick by it. He's making great arguments and people are drowning him out with hyperbola and inflammatory rhetoric. I'm calling the bullshit out. He's explained the situation and it makes logical sense. People come in throwing out hate and a mud slinging campaign against him saying "HE'S BLACK HE'S BLACK BLACKKKKKK" to scare all the newbies into not voting him when his positive far outweigh his negatives (Already said this multiple times) | ||
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Well the first thing to do would be to vote for someone else besides the most likely scum of the bunch. Ideally we'd get DH as mayor and me as pardoner. We just need 3 to switch off of gmarshal. I trust that shit. Get on it people, 6 more minutes. | ||
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Gmarshal: 13 DoctorHelvetica Lanaia Robellicose Coagulation OriginalName Mig AirbladeOrange M0nsterChef kevconsim darmousseh Kenpachi Serejai Barundar Lemonwalrus Kavdragon GMarshal tnkted Also, you'd think he people he has been suggesting as lynch targets such as ON and Monsterchef (both of which are here) would unvote him to save themselves but in the end they'll be safe cause he's settling on AirbladeOrange. | ||
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