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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 11 2011 17:36 GMT
#1099
On April 12 2011 02:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 02:25 GMarshal wrote:
Oh, and I just realized something, kitaman should be shot by vigis stating night 2 because he is running for pardoner, I just re-read the description and the pardoner is horribly, horribly anti town, it makes the day end on no lynch essentially giving the mafia a free night. I say vigi and not lynch because its too easy a bandwagon to policy lynch someone, it gives us no real information on the lynch.


LOL. So you agree with my policy enough to vote for me and now you are calling for a vig shot? You really are a dirty politician

I ran specifically for pardoner because it is horribly, horribly anti-town. If I win, I guarantee that mafia cannot reach LYLO a day earlier. If you want to address any of my stances so far, then I'm open to discussion, but to call for a vig shot without providing reasoning is scummy.


Furthermore, your buddy Chaoser ran solely for pardoner too. Surely, you want him lynched too if your reasoning is consistent? HAHA medic protection? Either that post was not well thought out or you have an ulterior motive against me.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 11 2011 19:20 GMT
#1134
On April 12 2011 02:48 GMarshal wrote:
you were also the first person to run for pardoner which suggests to me that you realized its power pretty much off the bat


So I'm a good vig target because I started my campaign first? Priceless.

Does that mean the first mayor candidate should be vig'd too?

On April 12 2011 02:48 GMarshal wrote:
both chaoser and I thought that what pardoning did was get the second highest vote count player lynched, as opposed to just ending the day.


I corrected chaoser on his assumption VERY early into day 1. The fact that you know chaoser was incorrect means you either read that post, meaning "I just realized something" was a lie or you have been in contact with chaoser, meaning you are scum.

On April 12 2011 02:48 GMarshal wrote:
Also you neglect the rest of my post, what do you think about the medic and DT lists?


I have little interest in your attempt to direct blues. The fact that you thought you could hide a vig hit in with a bunch of other information is amusing.

On April 12 2011 03:11 GMarshal wrote:
Yes, Vig Kita, I'm also thinking about having the pardoner lynched immediately upon seizing power, depending on who landed the role, since it is a free extra night for the scum, no amount of stopping bandwagons is worth giving the scum a free night of kills. I'm still toying with the idea, as it really depends on who lands the role.


This is 100% anti-town. If you want to remove the pardoner's power, have him pardon your first lynch. Your method reduces the number of people alive, regardless of whether or not you think he is scum.

On April 12 2011 03:11 GMarshal wrote:
Onto what makes me suspicious of Kita, Dr.H calls him out on it quite early, kita makes some very general remarks on the mayorship "scum might run", "mayor is powerful", etc. He then starts tunneling on Dr.H insisting he is scum


Haha, now you're just starting to smear my name. I called DrH out for explicitly stating that he does not want to be mayor pregame. I have never "tunneled on Dr.H" nor have I ever "insisted he is scum". You are lying.

On April 12 2011 03:11 GMarshal wrote:
His point that he has no backing for mayor is... lacking... if he is in communication with a scumteam then he can happily make them wait to vote to emphasize this point. Point 2 is decent, but I generally frown on too much focus on the meta. Point three is laughable, all pro-town players will argue against lynching innocents, and here he still maintains he might use the pardon as long as its "no on a whim". His final two points are irrelevant.

So basically he is running on a campaign made of fluff trying to grab a power role, and saying he might make use of it. If he had said he was going to categorically not use it I'd be happier, but it seems that as the thread progresses he is warming up to using it


You voted for me. Apparently it was good enough to convince you, until this point? What interests me is what, or who, changed your mind. My ideas have remained consistent since the point you decided to back me.

On April 12 2011 03:11 GMarshal wrote:
Every other one of his posts is against the assassin getting elected into office, which is curious to say the least. I agree with his stance on that but he seems deadset against it, dedicating almost all his effort to stopping his election


Would you rather have me state my point and then hide in the shadows? I see little reason why I should be killed for arguing my opinion. You even admit to agreeing with me on this issue, which confuses me why you are using at as a reason to have me vig'd.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 11 2011 20:14 GMT
#1155
On April 12 2011 04:46 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
This is 100% anti-town. If you want to remove the pardoner's power, have him pardon your first lynch. Your method reduces the number of people alive, regardless of whether or not you think he is scum.


you don't say? I always assumed that lynching someone kept them around, isn't the goal of lynching mafia to reduce the number of them that are alive? Do you prefer that if elected I dont lynch anyone and instead hold hands with the electorate and sing kumbayah while the mafia team shoots at us?


Obvously, I think you should lynch scum. You're saying that you are considering lynching the pardoner to remove his anti-town role, which I'm saying is a poor decision.

On April 12 2011 04:46 GMarshal wrote:
And now I put out a list in an attempt to foster discussion and you just ignore it because you are hurt that I think your play is off


I trust the blues to do what they believe is right. I don't need to tell them to "protect someone that is going to be hit" or "Check someone that is scummy"

On April 12 2011 04:46 GMarshal wrote:
Kita my case on you boils down to this, you've done exactly two things all game, run for pardoner and fight against an assassin for pardoner, while both those things as pretty neutral you haven't done anything else, no scum hunting, no analysis, just those two things, blindly. I thought that a player like you would be hunting scum, not just trying to deny them a role.


You are wrong. I'm starting to wonder if you are even willing to listen to reason or if you are trying to distract the town.

+ Show Spoiler +

On April 09 2011 07:39 kitaman27 wrote:
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On April 09 2011 07:38 Kavdragon wrote:
EBWODP: And on that note, I leave this spam fest to those who want to join my FoS list.

If the all feature is gone by day two, i will be very, very, unhappy.


^^Trying too hard to be pro-town night 0.


On April 10 2011 15:12 kitaman27 wrote:
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On April 10 2011 14:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
im gonna run because i can only trust myself

here is my "policy"

mayor:
-use my votes on whoever i think is scummiest not who the "town" tells me to vote for
-lynch kavdragon on day 1

pardoner:
-pardon whoever i think is getting lynched on a dumb bandwagon even if the rest of the town is pretty sure they are scum

that's it


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On April 01 2011 01:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
can i please not be mayor


We have our first major contradiction here. Pre-game he does not want to be mayor. He recieves his role pm and decides to run.


On April 11 2011 02:44 kitaman27 wrote:
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On April 10 2011 23:16 Jackal58 wrote:
Protactinum as mayor pretty much guarantees scum don't get it. Any guarantee that scum doesn't hold those extra votes at end game is a win for town.


No it doesn't. Protract could still be scum. For those who say that there is no way he would take that kind of risk, there are 8 scum. It could be a high risk, high reward kind of situation. Either way, as mayor he would not have the towns best intentions at mind, which is something you shouldn't be supporting.



On April 11 2011 02:44 kitaman27 wrote:
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On April 10 2011 20:26 aidnai wrote:
BTW kavdragon is a stupid day one lynch. He's a damn good liar, but if anybody had bothered to to behavioural analysis it should have been obvious he was not town last game -_-. He'll be active and a fairly easy read in another day or two.

Plus there's still like a dozen people that haven't even posted yet...


This is a total flip in philosophy from pregame. Siblings sticking up for each other? I might have to keep an eye on you.



On April 11 2011 03:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Another lurker that should be pressured is Lemonwalrus. He lurked as scum in Insane 2 and just a few days ago he was talking about how excited he was to play. Now that the game has started, he doesn't have a single post of content.

DarthThienAn also has zero posts. He is a veteran and I would like an explanation.


On April 11 2011 Kitaman27 write:
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On April 11 2011 05:32 Pandain wrote:
On April 11 2011 05:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
so that we can indefinitely protect the third party assassin and waste our time talking about him while the scum manipulate us duh

are you scum redFF? that's the only reason you wouldn't think it's a good idea


So we can protect someone who will give us:
1.DT results.
2.Dt results again(me)
3.Valuable scum hunting ability.


Furthermore for the love of god why don't you start talking about who's mafia? Personally anyone who says they have a strong read day 1 is pretty dumb, given its day 1!

What's more important than deciding the mayor right now? Especially if he could be an assassin!


The fact that you are discouraging day one scum hunting concerns me. Even if it is unlikely to catch a day one lynch, doesn't mean we shouldn't pressure. Right when protract achieves his win condition, he is removed from the game....do we really want to have our mayor disappear mid-game?


On April 11 2011 06:05 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 06:01 Pandain wrote:
actually you know what.
IT would still work.
I just don't run.

I'm not dt


^^ Add this guy to the lynch candidates.


On April 11 2011 06:35 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 06:34 M0nsterChef wrote:
##Vote: Gmarshal


This guy is voting without posting.


On April 11 2011 23:02 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 13:36 DropBear wrote:
/confirm
My life for the town!


Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 00:16 redFF wrote:
Hey guys i'm town


I'm always weary of people who find it necessary to post that they are town.

Inactives that should know better:

Lemon-Still hasn't posted. Playing pokemon instead.

Tackster-Zero posts

Rean-Only two posts, both re guarding assassins.

GGQ- Supports prot, no posts in over 25 pages

ilovejohn- sick

DarthThienAn - Quotes one of Kav's newbie posts to tell us that he agrees and then proceeds to vote for pandain, the fake dt claim.


On April 11 2011 23:49 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 23:38 DarthThienAn wrote:
On April 11 2011 23:02 kitaman27 wrote:
DarthThienAn - Quotes one of Kav's newbie posts to tell us that he agrees and then proceeds to vote for pandain, the fake dt claim.

That's exactly why I voted for him. Low chance of being elected for Mayor, so there's no harm in putting my vote there as a placeholder, like I said in my second post...

If you're going to try to criticize me, at least do it with something credible.


That was a credible criticism. You haven't taken a stand yet.


On April 12 2011 04:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 02:48 GMarshal wrote:
both chaoser and I thought that what pardoning did was get the second highest vote count player lynched, as opposed to just ending the day.


I corrected chaoser on his assumption VERY early into day 1. The fact that you know chaoser was incorrect means you either read that post, meaning "I just realized something" was a lie or you have been in contact with chaoser, meaning you are scum.




I have come to a realization.

Stanley Cup Playoffs start this week.

I am a loyal Sabres fan.

GMarshal is from Philly.

This means war.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 11 2011 21:48 GMT
#1165
On April 12 2011 06:40 GMarshal wrote:
Kita, I retract my accusation of you, it was kind of a dick move on my part but I wanted to see how you reacted to some pressure, since I felt that you hadn't been subjected to any real scrutiny. Sorry if I made you angry, but I had to see how you reacted to something like my attack.


You dirty Broad Street Bully. I don't get angry, I get revenge.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 11 2011 23:16 GMT
#1211
I rarely point out posts I like, but DrH's is a good one.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 00:14 GMT
#1256
On April 12 2011 09:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 08:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
When are the bodyguards revealed to public office?

We do NOT want any scum in the leadership positions at all as they will learn the identities of the bodyguards.


I forgot about the BGs -_- . The point of this though, would be to lynch the pardoner NOW, right as the mayor is elected, so we wouldn't have to deal with him. Ideally, we would have a pro-town player as the pardoner, who would probably never use the pardoning ability. However, if we vote someone who could be scum in, that's not very good for town at all. Thus, my proposal that we could potentially just kill the pardoner Day 1, by voting in an agreed lynch. Honestly, I can't think of any situation where we'd really want to pardon somebody.

It's kind of a truce thing. If mafia starts killing off bodyguards then I know either

A) Pardoner is scum

or

B) One of the bodyguards is scum

and makes scumhunting considerably easier for me. Vice-versa for the pardoner as well.


I had thought bodyguards could not be scum considering they are "random townies". I also believe they do not know each others identities. Might need some clarification on this though.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 00:44 GMT
#1272
GMarshal, have you decided on a lynch candidate? Now might be a good time to tell us. Since mafia is keeping the voting so close, it might be interesting to see how your decision impacts the voting results.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 01:21 GMT
#1281
On April 09 2011 17:13 Kavdragon wrote:
This is why ver posted his analysis during the night.


On April 10 2011 12:03 Kavdragon wrote:
I have been talking with veteran players (Ver, BC, and Foolishness) constantly since then about how I can improve my play, and analysis.


On April 12 2011 07:17 Kavdragon wrote:
I've been talking to Ver, BC and RoL a lot over the past few games trying to improve my play.


On April 12 2011 10:09 Kavdragon wrote:
It's funny, because this fits Ver's profiling for a new scum player almost exactly. Right down to the out of place list. (See: Ver's analysis of XXX)


New rule. You are no longer allowed to mention Ver's name. k thx.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 01:28 GMT
#1285
On April 12 2011 10:26 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 08:15 Rean wrote:
On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this?


Meapak says it's okay to pm the host:

[01:14] <+Meapak> FUCK
[01:14] <+Meapak> redff
[01:14] <+Meapak> dude
[01:14] <+Meapak> I'm at 1499 posts
[01:14] <+Meapak> I can't post
[01:14] <+GGQ> i keep accidentally missing my milestone posts
[01:14] <+Meapak> just tell him that he can PM the hosts


I'm just reading through, but it looks like everyone else missed this.

Wtf?

Why are you in a chat room with meapak and GGQ? I thought only mafia had circles.

FOS Meapak GGQ and Rean


Especially Meapak. He has been up to no good since the start.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 01:57 GMT
#1303
On April 12 2011 10:49 redFF wrote:
A dt check asked for by DrH on me would be a good idea so I don't have to explain my noobie town behaviour and can analise instead.


Never trust a guy who requests a dt check.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 03:33 GMT
#1329
On April 12 2011 12:32 Conversion wrote:
Didn't most town want proct as pardoner?

Unvoted and voted proct. hoping for some kind of vote switch before day ends...


Me and all 2 of my loyal supports will not allow that to happen.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 03:48 GMT
#1337
GMarshal, you should change your lynch candidate to the most scummy person that votes for Protactinium within the next hour.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 03:50 GMT
#1339
On April 12 2011 12:49 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 12:48 kitaman27 wrote:
GMarshal, you should change your lynch candidate to the most scummy person that votes for Protactinium within the next hour.

Next 11 minutes you mean?


Day post and voting thread says 1am I believe.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 03:53 GMT
#1347
Hey look, the Protact supporters have come out of hiding. Your glorious leader has just returned in time.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 03:55 GMT
#1351
On April 12 2011 12:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 12:50 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 12 2011 12:49 GMarshal wrote:
On April 12 2011 12:48 kitaman27 wrote:
GMarshal, you should change your lynch candidate to the most scummy person that votes for Protactinium within the next hour.

Next 11 minutes you mean?


Day post and voting thread says 1am I believe.


OP says midnight!


Mafia adviser wants the day to end an hour early! *Evil glare
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 04:01 GMT
#1362
Hmm votes are coming off DrH, which indirectly supports GMarshal's chances for mayor. Interesting.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 04:26 GMT
#1386
Haha awesome 5k.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 04:45 GMT
#1422
Upon election, how much time does the mayor have to decide his lynch?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 04:51 GMT
#1434
Either of you have any thoughts on Rean? His play so far isn't close to what it was in Insane 2 as town.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 05:00 GMT
#1458
Wow, that last minute switch was cute.
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