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I died, and I came back, now I'm changed, I live, but only destroy the enemies of the town
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tremble mafia for GM is here to destroy you
Now, I know there are going to be plenty of other candidates running on platforms of cookies and puppies and flowers and even cats in tophats and monocles. Unfortunately I'm not going to offer you cookies or cats in tophats and monocles, only dead scum, swinging, swinging from a tree.
Now why would you vote for GMarshal?
1.) I am the most pro-town player, just look at my play, I do nothing but help town, scumhunt and make the town think. My death in insane was the crumbling point that lead to scum and stupid townies getting Tack lynched. You guys will have no issue seeing if I am town, as if I am I will be posting every five minutes or so, at the very least to berate inactives. If I'm not playing my townie style then by all means hang me.
2.) Despite the fiasco of XXXVII, I am a decent scum hunter, I died in insane because I had 3/6 scum pegged day 1. I fully intend to analyze the scum team into the ground. I might not be Ver, but I'll do my damndest to kill scum. If you've watched me play at all you know I'll stand by my convictions, even if I am the only townie doing so.
3.) I know what I am going to do with my lynch, Im going to use it on the most inactive/lurking player around to make an example, the best part of this is that unlike regular inactive lynches this one is 100% guaranteed to be scum influence free.
4.) Inactives I am going to kill inactive with fiery vengeance, inactives are one of the number one reasons town loses, people who don't post because being a townie is “boring” and allow scum to hide in their midst. Not this game. Not on my watch.
5.) Policy. I'm not going to tolerate any plans that rely on “trust me guys, I'm pro” or “my gut is why you should lynch Qatol!” and I'm going to lynch players who try to make arguments into mudslinging fests that allow scum to happily hide under the spam (See Insane mafia 2). So if you want to make an argument, do so with good points, analysis and in a respectful manner, or I will either ignore you, or make sure you get lynched.
6.) Plans and town direction. The lack of PMs this game means that many plans that rely on circles and claims dont work. However that dosn't mean we can't think about the roles we have at our disposal. For example we have watchers, trackers and DT's thats three different information roles that from day 1 should be threatening scum. “Threatening scum” you ask “dont you mean catching scum?”. Well yes and no. Detectives should most certainly be checking players who are playing off their usual meta and players who they think are acting scummy, but not enough to be called out on, however be aware that with the presence of a godfather nothing is certain. Watchers need to watch whoever they think are going to be hit. Watchers should think of themselves as medics who catch scum, instead of protecting the person, so if you think someone is a target then watch them. Trackers should track who you think is likely scum, if they visit a someone and they die, you know you got something, if they visit and someone dosn't die then you probably have a blue or a mafia roleblocker. if you vote for me I can keep giving us this type of direction, including lists of who I think needs to be Dted, Vigied, Med protected, etc. Im going to do this regardless of whether I am elected or not, but if I'm dead my ability to post helpful lists is going to be greatly diminished
7.) I don’t lie, ever, I may perform gambits, but I don’t lie (with the exception of about my role, I do reserve the right to tell blatant untruths about that), and I endorse the LaL policy, in fact if I am mayor I’ll make sure we follow it as much as possible.
8.) I'm an easy read, you want me as mayor because frankly it doesn't matter if you can role check me or not, you can just look at my posts and say “town” or “scum”. Unlike other players who play a really good game as mafia, I am obviously scum when I am scum and obviously town when I am town. This means that the fact that I cannot be Dted as mayor is irrelevant
9.) I'm GMarshal, the towniest townie and I'm here from beyond the grave to kick the mafia teams ass for killing me in insane
Vote GMarshal, for a future in which crows feast upon the flesh of the mafia
Vote GMarshal for the purge of every scum player in this town
Vote GMarshal for Vengance, retribution and a town victory!
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you can hide , you can run , but my reach is endless, my touch is your destruction and my eyes see in darkness. I will find you, and when I do, you are finished.
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On April 10 2011 12:03 Kavdragon wrote:
I would also like to announce my campaign for mayor. I didn't write up anything fancy this game for my platform, nor will I copy-past it from a previous game.
I offer the experience that I have gained from previously being mayor.
I offer strong leadership, something that already demonstrated in XXXVI, but I have worked on and further improved on since then.
I offer my skills as an analyst. My analysis in XXXVI was key to the town's victory, and while I have not had the chance to demonstrate it since then, I have been talking with veteran players (Ver, BC, and Foolishness) constantly since then about how I can improve my play, and analysis.
I will be offering my ideas, opinions, and thoughts openly to make my alignment clear to the town.
I offer victory for the town.
Vote for Kav!
My campaign has prettier pictures than yours! Also if you are elected and I'm stuck as a bg again I'll have an aneurysm!
That said, gentlemen don't vote for themselves and I'd be happy to have you as a pardoner with me
##Vote Kavdragon
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Oh, dear god, so many campaigns going up already... I still think I have the superior pictures, but thats irrelevant.
Onto actually saying things with meaning. tnkted you'll notice I do analysis when its actually relevant. at this time there is very little to analyze, and frankly the discussion we had about night talking and in general terms the mayorship, while useful to newbies provides very little to analyze as both sides of the night talk discussion have pro-town and anti-town features, hence the discussion was really good for scum to blend in, because weighing in on either side was easy. (scum isn't going to wade in and say "I think you should only roleclaim at night lololol"). What is analyzable about those posts is who seemed to be trying to just fit in.
As of right now, I have a FoS for wiggles, reading his posts it seemed to me that he was trying to just blend in, much like Meapak's posts in Insane 2, In insane I died without calling Meapak out on it, so I wont make that mistake this time, so there, FoS wiggles .
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oh, and thanks chaoser, I'll try to not disappoint you this game ^_^
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On April 10 2011 13:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i'm both aggressive and bad
I disagree
tnkted, what you need to know is that Dr.H is a long time Mafia Player, so I feel that he is trying something tricky this game (I even think I know, what, but to reveal it would be to spoil half the fun)
Either way, you make a good point about looking at the interactions between the players, when you said analysis I assumed you meant PbP analysis, but you are right interplayer interaction is also important to consider. I see it as more valuable when we lynch someone and see their alignment, then now, when alignments are still up in the air (which is when I go back and look over their old posts).
Still good call.
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Protactinium I applaude your ballsy move, I however hate to have to condemn you to a painful death, since not having a townie as mayor hurts us, frankly the mayor and pardoner roles are extremely strong and we need them in the hands of the town. Also as an assassin you are likely to want to aim the lynch at other assasins.
I offer you a counter deal, you put your kp/DT check at the service of the town and we will have medics protect you. Is as good as being the mayor, but it dosn't cost the town those roles.
Still kudos for your balls of steel in making that claim
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On April 10 2011 13:25 tnkted wrote:
Yeah I'm down with offering some medic protect on him but there is absolutely no way that we can give him the mayorship. As people have said multiple times, we need somebody who can be a good leader. People look to the mayor. He has a PM circle. If mayor isn't town the position is entirely wasted.
No he dosn't, where do you get that? He knows the names of the bg's but thats it (thats my understanding of the OP, correct me if I'm glaringly wrong)
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urashimakt, voting is done in a separate thread, but its tradition that we also vote in here to make it evident we are voitng, this way we avoid people ninja votingn and no one noticing till the lynch has gone through, sure votes here aren't counted, but they *Are* made evident to the rest of the players.
Make sense?
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On April 10 2011 13:28 tnkted wrote:
Hmm... On the other hand this would give mafia incentive to be hunting for assassins as well...
question for the vets: in games with assassins are assassin targets typically reds or greens? ie, do most assassins act like classic red, with lurking and trying to avoid attention, or do they act like classic greens with analysis and debate?
If I were an assassin I would try to dodge the red kps by not being to pro town and avoid the lynch by not being to scummy, hence I would play it by lurking, and/or contributing without contributing to avoid attention. Basically they are walking a fine line, tending more towards scummy play than pro town play (As the mafia have more KP than the town)
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GMarshal's Post Day 1: Lynch Scum!
Seriously though, I dont know what you want out of me, I'll provide analysis, I'll write lists of who I think needs to be vigi'd, DTed, Mediced and such, and I'll be doing kill analysis (such as the one I wrote on the last day of XXXVII). But other than that there's not much to plan for, we analyze and find scum, proceed to hang them by the neck till dead, repeat until victory.
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EBWOP: that should read GMarshal's Post Day 1 Plan T.T
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On April 10 2011 13:51 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 13:24 GMarshal wrote:
Protactinium I applaude your ballsy move, I however hate to have to condemn you to a painful death, since not having a townie as mayor hurts us, frankly the mayor and pardoner roles are extremely strong and we need them in the hands of the town. Also as an assassin you are likely to want to aim the lynch at other assasins.
I offer you a counter deal, you put your kp/DT check at the service of the town and we will have medics protect you. Is as good as being the mayor, but it dosn't cost the town those roles.
Still kudos for your balls of steel in making that claim The problem with this is that we DON'T know if there are medics or not. Hosts can pull a lawl give em all vets only thing again.
Its a risk I'm more than happy to run to keep or mayor or pardoner from insta dissaperaing possibly on day 2 if the mafia is incompetent.
And to all the people who are arguing that losing the pardoner is worth it I disagree, because frankly I dont trust having someone with a non town win-con in office, especially considering that the threat of the pardon basically stops last minute bandwagons from scum and makes last minute vote switches much scarier for the scumteam.
Personally I dont want to give up the pardoner not even for a dt check and a couple of kills.
Instead I offer again, I'll put you at the top of all the medic prot lists in exchange for your kills
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Assassins cannot strike night 1 IIRC, so theres no need to waste watchers on him night 1, although I *am* willing to let medics prot him in case scum try to take him out ^_^
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On April 10 2011 14:15 urashimakt wrote:
How exactly are the assassins going to prey upon our bodyguards effectively? They don't have contact with the Mafia, their own tools deprecate when used on non-assassin targets, and any open action they make to try to gain some sort of edge leaves them vulnerable to Protactinium who would be invulnerable and able to kill them.
The point about him being able to sell bodyguards out is a little easier to see. I still think the benefits outweigh any possible negative, even if he were to try to double agent his way to victory.
I agree with DrH on this early call. I think you're trying to guide us into a defensive position, which with 4 KP a night out there I don't want to be caught up in.
It dosn't matter how "effective" they are at hitting BGs it matters that they are going to be throwing more KP out there that are likely to hit town. While I agree that my greatest worry is not pissing off the other assassins at the moment, but rather losing a powerful town role in exchange for a dt check, (which is nice) and two kills (which have as much potential to hit town as scum, especially since our "friendly" assassin is going to probably go after whichever suggestions he finds most likely to be other assassins)
Its not worth giving a powerful pro town role to someone who does not have our best interests at heart.
I say NO to giving a pro-town role to a non-town person
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On April 10 2011 14:28 urashimakt wrote:
I don't think the other assassins (if they're wise) are going to be throwing KP at town. It just wouldn't be an effective way to achieve their win condition unless they knew who the bodyguards are, which they aren't going to.
As far as giving a powerful green role to a black, I don't agree. He has no reason to pardon anyone that we wouldn't, as far as I can tell. He does, however, bring abilities to the table that I think are more powerful than the pardon.
Let me be utterly honest here if I were an assassin and another assassin got elected I would probably say "fuck this" and start gunning for townies out of frustration. Or worse, trying to help the mafia snipe the bgs so I could have a shot at my target. One way an assassin could do this is by detecting a BG with his DT ability and then giving out that information.
And yes he has reasons to pardon someone who we would not, lets say the second place person in a vote is someone who he thinks is an assassin he'll happily pardon the first place to get the other person hanged, and potentially win.
Also we have no way to make him use his abilities for us, lets say he uses his KP on whoever the fuck he wants, what are we going to do waste a lynch on him and give the mafia another free round of kills? No, more likely than not we'll say "damn you, shoot who we want" and let him live, because we cannot afford to waste a lynch. or if we do lynch him we helped the scum team, congratulations a true lose/lose situation
This is a BAD IDEA, we want townies in power, not assassins who are out only for themselves.
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Also while I have a chance, a huge poke at everyone who is lurking (you know who you are) if you dont start posting I'll hang you if I'm elected, so post damnit. If I have to I'll start calling you out by name, but theres like 10 of you.
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On April 10 2011 14:41 Conversion wrote:
Well, you have to account for the time zones and such GM. Some people might not be awake (I'm not supposed to be, but shhh.)
Anyways, since there's no voting thread, I guess we sit tight for a bit? And read over posts, of course.
AND POST. POST SO WE CAN GET READS ON YOU!!!!
sorry for the caps, we dont "sit tight" we think and post our thoughts.
Conversion, who do you think is the best mayor candidate right now?
And if you had control of the lynch right now who would die?
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On April 10 2011 14:48 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 14:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
good job saying nothing and repeating "pro-town" stuff other people said
fos I wasn't trying to repeat what others said I was typing the posts up at the same time. You can see my other post where I basically said the exact same thing as you went up at the same time. If my posts are just saying nothing then I don't have any defense against that haha. I am just adding points I thought were valid.
So, to counteract the fact that you have been adding little let me ask you a few little questions
Who is your #1 town read?
Not counting inactives, who is your number 1 scum read?
Who is your favorite Starcraft Player?
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On April 10 2011 14:56 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 14:51 GMarshal wrote:On April 10 2011 14:48 Mig wrote:On April 10 2011 14:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
good job saying nothing and repeating "pro-town" stuff other people said
fos I wasn't trying to repeat what others said I was typing the posts up at the same time. You can see my other post where I basically said the exact same thing as you went up at the same time. If my posts are just saying nothing then I don't have any defense against that haha. I am just adding points I thought were valid. So, to counteract the fact that you have been adding little let me ask you a few little questions Who is your #1 town read? Not counting inactives, who is your number 1 scum read? Who is your favorite Starcraft Player? Y U NO GIVE ME QUESTIONS?!
Because as far as I can tell you are playing to your usual town meta.
However if you are bored I can give you questions
Between all the mayor candidates, which do you think is most likely scum (Assuming they are running) ?
Name 2 players who you expected to see more action from who are not posting as much as you think they should
Favorite SC BW map?
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Frankly I think Dr.H is a terrible candidate for mayor, (no offense intended) as his track record in town leadership has mafia winning most times. I think he is a fine player, and I'm happy to have him doing analysis and such, but I dont want him in a position where the entire town follows him as he has a rather large tendency to second guess himself.
Also I can agree with a GMarshal, chaoser mayoral campaign, choaser, you are in charge of the posters.
Sorry kav, but I have to vote for my new running mate
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##Vote: Chaoser
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