EPTTL Mafia XXXVIII - Page 13
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1) Prot IS a DT 2) LSB and Coag and both Scum 3) So is Kenpachi, LW, and Serejai | ||
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DropBear -> "good point by kita" no against prot kita -> very against prot wiggles -> late to the party, no to black Mig -> no to prot ON/LSB -> didn't say anything about prot, voted GM Eii -> no to prot LemonWalrus ->Against Prot List Against Coag Lynch Barundar -> very against coag lynch even though he should have read the logical posts LemonWalrus -> wishy washy on Prot Claim aidnai redff LSB/ON For GMarshal Mayor Robellicose OriginalName/LSB AirbladeOrange M0nsterChef Kenpachi Serejai Barundar Lemonwalrus Latrommi Cross reference that with: List for Coag Lynch Sincle Coag was GF and Mafia must have been pissed about Prot's lie of checking him, none of them SHOULD be voting coag for lynch since they would be fighting it every step of the way cause they know Prot's check is a lie. I consider everyone on this list pretty much confirmed Barundar urashimakt Rean Mig bumatlarge Robellicose Kenpachi chaoser Eiii Protactinium TranceStorm And you get these people who were on the first three but not on the last one LemonWalrus and ON/LSB. With Barundar* since he did vote for coag's lynch but was on two of the three lists above. I will go back to analysis a few more people who I think are scum soon but the major plan for today is for Vigi to shoot LSB or LW and then lynch the other tomorrow. I've already done lots of analysis on ON/LSB and I am 100% convinced he is mafia. LW I had a scum read on and others have analyzed him so go look those up but I am 90% sure he is mafia too. I was right on LSB and GMarshal and I helped push for Coag's lynch even after Prot's DT claim was called out. Let's win this town. | ||
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On April 16 2011 06:11 Rean wrote: short inbetween message: chaoser, i agree except one thing bugs me: i'm pretty damn sure aidnai is scum because he's constantly starting bandwagons on the easiest target he can find. he's saying kill lsb so i doubt lsb is actually scum unless they're sacking him to make aidnai look town. Maybe I'm mafia and I've just been bussing the main election mafia candidate since day 1 to build up my town cred so much that I can control the rest of the game? When I first started mafia I was paranoid as shit and didn't want to make the wrong moves and didn't trust anyone. Everything was questionable, even extremely pro town things since, what if it was mafia trying to get town cred? After a while you'll realize it's not about being inactive or going after the easiest bandwagon that makes people scummy. Some people are bad townies and they don't want to seem inactive and anti-town and then have town waste a lynch on them. So they try to help, but they suck, so their help comes off as non-help. That's the mentality that would make them go after easy targets. Aren't you doing the same thing by going after aidnai? It's not about what he does but why he does them and how he was doing them. Was he being wishy washy? Was he being aggressive and persistent? If he was being persistent, was there a reason for it? Was he doing it to draw attention away from someone else? How did he go about being persistent? Was he making bullshit arguments? Motive is infinitely more important than just simple action. Look at the context of the situation first. I'll look over aidnai's in a bit if you want. | ||
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If the mafia or assassins choose to hit the same target as you, and they manage to kill them, they'll reach that target first (again, banhammers are heavy as shit), and you will retain the use of your banhammer. If they both hit the same target, vigis get their hit back. Might as well stack it cause if assassins hit we lose nothing. If we hit, heyo! | ||
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On April 13 2011 16:02 aidnai wrote: Good god, I was trying to analyze coag's posts this game but when I searched for them I had to go past like 500 posts from insane 2 wtf?! coag, you are truly amazing... so he doesn't do it...ok + Show Spoiler + At Protact: my intial reaction is skepticism, I'm trying to think through if it's worth it for us to lynch coag anyway. Lynch coag, if he's red, we medic protact? We have time to figure this one out at least. drawn out which mafia? you've put out coag, he hasn't flipped yet, but having read his posts myself he was not high on my suspect list. Also, 'mix it up a bit' sounds retarded. You coulda won the mayor campaign easily with zero claims, most townies were complaining about how stupid all the other campaigns were and EVEN AFTER CLAIMING BLACK you came in an easy 3rd place... It's definitely suspicious that IF you are an assassin, this is your only viable play today. Even more so that there wasn't actually a good reason to claim assassin in the first place as a DT. I think that, as you said yourself, you got assassin, didn't like the role, and tried to make the best of the situation. IN ANY CASE, I'm not going to let this prevent scumhunting at least for the sake of our vigilantes. i.e. even if we lynch coag, the remaining vigis might have something to go on. Yeah, ignore protact, he dies tonight, if he flips blue *unlikely*, then we lynch coag. Coag, I don't really see why you claimed, but ok. nobody is saying FW is a mafia wtf? He's really an assassin, using the last trick up his sleeve. as for thinking critically, I'd ask you, if protact was in fact black, what are his possible plays today? you pointed out correctly (I believe) that his chances are slim with this play, but I still don't think there's any better play for him? logically, it seems to me the MOST LIKELY explanation for protact claiming black day 1 is that he was in fact black. I'll grant it's possible that it was all a ploy to draw out scum (btw this would be easier to believe if you posted your list protact). IF PROTACT IS BLACK, what else could we expect out of him today? roll over and die? the guy obviously wants to have fun and make a splash, why not go out in style right? Very VERY insistent that prot is black and doesn't even consider that he might be blue. + Show Spoiler + On April 13 2011 18:17 aidnai wrote: hmm... lots of people missing from this conversation. I'm gonna give it a rest and see what's up tomorrow. SCUMMY LURKER LIST latrommi Milkyst <- 1 post + 1 vote lol jaminz serejai rean none of these players are interacting with the game in any meaningful way. Scared of imba scumtells much? depending on activity levels as today progresses, we might get a nice vig shot on one of these, I'm thinking milkyst. His only post proves he's been reading the thread (look at bolded part), but all he can say is he wants to lynch redFF because he's a 'little bit suspicious'. 1 post and 1 vote per day keeps the modkill away right? goodnight everybody. On April 14 2011 06:31 aidnai wrote: Thanks for the recap? lol let's move on instead of making huge posts regurgitating everything. scum points for wiggles. On April 14 2011 07:36 aidnai wrote: The big problem with this debate is 1) likely scenario is protact = assassin, coag = vet 2) mafia don't really care about who we kill here 3) debating this is therefore mostly a waste of time. Best course of action is let protact die tonight, decide about a coag lynch based on the flip (or vig him pretty please  Therefore it's time to post my lynch candidate: Rean. This is where it gets juicy again: a) he once again dodges the activity/trolling issue b) HE THINKS COAG IS SCUMMY FOR REJECTING PROTACT FOR MAYOR DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER FOLKS c) throwing FOS around at coag/gmarshal d) DOESN'T KNOW/CARE IF PROT IS AN ASSASSIN, BUT STILL CALLS FOR MEDIC ON HIM DING DING DING TWICE IN ONE POST. Thanks for making it easy Rean Important points to remember: 1) Rean's attitude towards protact and coag proves that he is mafia 2) Rean's attitude towards his activity level and his responses to criticism indicate he is mafia 3) Rean's lack of contribution and mudslinging just put the nail in the coffin. Lynch Red. Lynch Rean. Look how quickly and persistent he is in wanting to move off the Coag v Flamewheel debate, throwing out anything in hopes that it will stick. In particular I want to focus on his case against Rean where he makes his main point against Rean by trying to discredit Rean's accusation that GMarshal and Coag are red. That is where he pushes the strongest. Well we all know how Gmarshal and Coag flipped. FoS Aidnai, we should keep an eye on him. (Spent like the last hour doing this lol. If he's mafia, he's good, most subtle one so far) | ||
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On April 15 2011 11:02 bumatlarge wrote: ##unvote ##vote Gmarshal On April 15 2011 11:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Gmarshal On April 15 2011 11:03 chaoser wrote: ##Vote Gmarshal Like a BOSS | ||
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![[image loading]](http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/7276979/I-WAS-FOSING-LSB-WAY-BEFORE-D-HELVETICA-THOUGHT-IT-WAS-COOL-TO-DO-SO.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Hipster-Ariel) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=204956¤tpage=112#2224 | ||
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On April 16 2011 08:50 Rean wrote: Just one point: if LSB is scum, why is he so insanely burned on getting flamewheel lynched when there's so much easier targets out there? That's the main problem I have with the LSB = scum theory. I'll go make a analysis on both (for real this time lol) on both (lsb/on), but in the perspective of trying to let it make sense to you he's the assassin. Because if FW is lynched and flips black (which mafia thought was true since Coag is GF and FW couldn't have checked him to be red) then Coag can claim that it was a fake check and get away scott free | ||
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On April 16 2011 09:15 Rean wrote: ......but town was never ever ever going to kill FW, that just wasn't gonna happen, best they could get was to get town to leave fw to die to the assassins and scumhunt someone else, no sensible townie would have voted for FW. Honestly, I think you're giving scum a little bit to little credit, they can't be this bad. On January 10 2011 11:52 Ace wrote: Sometimes it's just better to think of a simple answer. You have no idea what the Mafia know and don't know their motives. Hence it's just a simple decision on who is more believable here. It could have been that they wanted to split the vote. It could have been because there's a lot of newbies in the game and they wanted them to sheep, it could have been bad decision making due to being under stress and angry at Prot's lie. Look at coag's vigi into vet claim. That enough was a HUGE slip from him. There's no way you can mistake your own role like that. Either way LSB will die to either a vigi or assassin tonight. | ||
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8. Kenpachi 9. ilovejonn 11.chaoser 12.CubEdIn 2.0 13.kevconsim 15.TranceStorm 18.urashimakt 20.Milkyst 21.DropBear 22.The_Roist 23.kitaman27 24.bumatlarge 25.jaminz 26.DarthThienAn 27.DoctorHelvetica 29.AirbladeOrange 30.MetalFace 31.Barundar 33.redFF 34.M0nsterChef 36.Robellicose 37.Mig 38.aidnai 39.Conversion 3 Mafia left 25 Town left | ||
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On April 16 2011 14:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Well. That was a really dirty cheat by Serejai. Was that a modkill? Congratulations eii! that was a pretty dirty cheat by serejai, he should get a ban or something | ||
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