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. I agree with your argument, my counter argument would be: But why did he pick out coag? He must believe in his case. That makes it worth listening to. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on that one.TL Mafia XXXVIII - Page 115
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
. I agree with your argument, my counter argument would be: But why did he pick out coag? He must believe in his case. That makes it worth listening to. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on that one. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On April 15 2011 01:25 Barundar wrote: @Jackal: You have solid argumentation and clear opinions so far. I guess the moment you aren't obvious town we should lynch you asap . I agree with your argument, my counter argument would be: But why did he pick out coag? He must believe in his case. That makes it worth listening to. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on that one.-Protac is an assassin -He fake claimed DT -He picked a person he thought was Red (maybe Black) to analyze -He was hoping that if he flipped Red, he'd get medic protection because he's a "Detective" -Everyone called bull-shit on his lie -His analysis on Coag still stands, but his claim doesn't strengthen it -If you're just voting for coag because of the claim, you're not playing intelligently (Not directed at you Barundar, just in general :p) -Keep in mind he might think Coag is black, as if there's three assassins and not four, he can go for a tie tonight, which is closer to his win condition than losing. -Vig Coag -Find another scum for lynch -If no scum can be found, or there's no case stronger than the one on Coag, Lynch him -In point form for those who apparently don't like reading | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On April 15 2011 01:34 Mr. Wiggles wrote: -Find another scum for lynch Suggestions? | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On April 15 2011 01:25 Barundar wrote: @Jackal: You have solid argumentation and clear opinions so far. I guess the moment you aren't obvious town we should lynch you asap . I agree with your argument, my counter argument would be: But why did he pick out coag? He must believe in his case. That makes it worth listening to. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on that one.Sorry. You'll have to wait for another game. As far as picking Coag goes - My best guess is you pick the guy nobody can analyze to further your DT claim. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
I'm personally thinking aidnai might be scummy, I'm going to do an analysis, but basically he didn't contribute any opinions Day 1, besides a bit of back and forth on Kav and then giving Kav advice after he was already lynched, and hasn't done much Day 2 but post a list of new players with not many posts and say "scum" and do a weak analysis on Rean. The rest is just one-line spam. Not sure if people would be willing to lynch him, but I've got my eye on him. If not that, then probably ON, though LSB has acted more pro-town in my eyes since he's joined, so it makes it a little weird. Serejai is a throwaway lynch. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Rean
Netherlands808 Posts
On April 15 2011 01:58 redFF wrote: Rean, i never even accused me. good to know you're not suicidal. . OMGUS the people that accused you, But don't say i am 100% scum without a real analysis. I'm just pissed that instead of people relying on analysis and scumhunting to lynch someone, they are relying on a desperate assassin trying to stay alive. Hurr durr I did write analysis on every single person I called scum. Read it. You're scum and I pointed out exactly why. Before Protact's "revelation" that he was dt there was very little suspicion on coag. Now he's getting lynched??? WTF. Please reconsider your vote and lynch who YOU think is scum. Not who the assassin/dt/???? is telling you is red. I'm lynching Coagulation because analysis from both Flamewheel and me point to him being scum. He's been acting typically scummy getting help from his buddy's to have attention thrown off him, and you're one of them. Lurkers post some analysis, post your thoughts/suspicions. People keep saying i'm trying to bandwagon someone but he is bandwagoning coag. WHY WOULD A DT CLAIM ASSASSIN???? Yes I'm trying to derail this lynch because I THINK THERE ARE SURER SUSPECTS TO LYNCH. I know people who voted for coag must think the same. He isn't a DT, he's a assassin desperate to stay alive and the only way he was out was to make a strong case on who he considered scum and claim DT in the hope town would sheep along. We've thrown away his DT claim but his case still stands: Coagulation was acting scummy. The reaction to him being suspected only proves that more. Make a serious case against one of the 5 (aidnai, coagulation, kitaman, gmarshal and you) I called 100% scum and I might consider changing my vote to one of them. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
Hops on the second bandwagon of Kitaman almost right away. Posts a fuckload of useless crap and his main occupation appears to be stating the obvious and pressuring people only to back off at the first sign of resistance. Starts off in favor of Protactinium, but quickly falls into being obsessed with inactives. Has a nice little FoS going on GMarshal, but only does so because there's inactives voting him. Also seems to be very protective of Coagulation. Suggests we only lynch him if Protactinium flips DT when everyone knows that won't happen. Awesome analysis bro, I like how you say i make random accusations and back off at the first sign of resistance, when my main critics have been saying i'm tunneling too much. I looked at some of coags older games and i don't see anything hugely scummy considering how he normally plays. I think it's cool how you just lurlurklurk and then as soon as you are accused you come out knowing 100% 5 of the mafia and pretty sure about the other 3. I don't think you're scum because i agree with you in some of your fos's. But to say you are 100% sure of 5 of the scum with a paragraph on each of them is kinda bold. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On April 15 2011 04:13 LSB wrote: Chaoser do you think coagulation is red? For Sure Yo | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On April 15 2011 04:32 chaoser wrote: I can do a complete analysis later if you want on why I now think he's red. Please! would like an opinion from someone who i read as town. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
im fine with being lynched. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
But im taking your ass down with me flamewheel. your gonna be so fucking full of holes by night 2 your gonna look like swiss cheese. | ||
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Rean
Netherlands808 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
Assassins will take care of him. | ||
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Protactinium
Canada550 Posts
On April 14 2011 18:22 DropBear wrote: This is interesting. All your analysis of him was based on day 1. Did you see Coagulations defense on day 2? As I already stated, it was desperate and obviously scummy. You could be very right and Coag and Marsh could be scum but I trust you about as far as I could throw you. If you would like to critique the analysis, by all means do so. Don't shrug off my analysis just because you don't trust me. Read my analysis, and see if it makes sense. If it makes sense, then vote Coagulation. This has nothing to do with trusting me. It has to do with whether or not the analysis is good. If you are town, dismissing my analysis by attacking my credibility is a bad move. On April 14 2011 19:31 DropBear wrote: Also Flamewheel, it seems to me that a key point in your case against GMarshal and your case against Coag are at odds. All the people not voting Marsh for mayor debated in the thread. All the people not voting for Coag to be lynched debated in the thread. You really are desperate to find cases if your cases are conflicting. HOWEVER this point, although you've shown it accidentally, shows that something is amiss here. We have two seemingly different, very rapidly formed bandwagons. Which names are on both wagons? - Robellicose, who has done little but repeat himself and sheep. - Serejai, who has done little but troll. - Kenpachi, who has been extremely quiet and made a bizarre sheep post. I am interested in these three names. The discrepancy you point out is not a discrepancy at all. There was debate on DH/my candidacy because mafia were spreading doubt. There is debate on the Coag lynch because mafia need to split up the vote in order to save Coag. Makes total sense here. The combination of his being on both bandwagons, his bizarre posting and the subtle differences between this game and his Insane 2 town posting are why you should ##Vote Kenpachi Being on both bandwagons is not indicative of him being mafia. In fact, it proves just the opposite - he is actually a town bandwagoner. Gmarshal: 13 DoctorHelvetica Lanaia Robellicose Coagulation OriginalName Mig AirbladeOrange M0nsterChef kevconsim darmousseh Kenpachi Serejai Barundar Lemonwalrus Kavdragon GMarshal tnkted Latrommi Coagulation: 10 Protactinium DoctorHelvetica kevconsim chaoser urashimakt Rean Mig bumatlarge DarthThienAn Serejai Robellicose Kenpachi Notice how only 3 of the names are on both lists. This means that a majority of the GMarshal voters do not agree with the Coagulation lynch. If you look at GMarshal's strong defense (not a direct defense, but a credibility attack by me) of Coagulation, it makes sense. GMarshal and Coag have the same alignment. The people who are on both bandwagons are likely bored townies who don't want to spend time analyzing and are just voting the bandwagon. Mafia are definitely not jumping onto this bandwagon because there is way too much opposition to the lynch. Kenpachi may have some slight posting differences. But Coagulation has huge posting differences. Its day and night. Look over his previous games to see for yourself. Kenpachi is 99% town. Please reconsider your vote and vote Coagulation. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On April 15 2011 04:47 Rean wrote: Why, are you letting your scumbuddy's revenge-kill? That's just BM man :< You tell us. What are you guys going to do tonight? Seriously. If Coag flips green or blue I'm gonna mount your ass on my wall as a trophy. | ||
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