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"even if he's town he's not helping so we might aswell kill him." Absolutely a scumtell. Especially since, seeing the night kills, we know mafia believed the claim more than the retraction. Townies facepalmed or ridiculed pandain, they didn't call for his lynch.
BTW, that's almost NEVER a scumtell. Scum wants people to think they're town. They post very safely usually, especially newer players like Rean who have played like 3 games total. One of them was insane and the other was death factory, both abnormal games. Newer players generally don't go all out attacking other players and then back their logic up with "even if he's town, let's just kill him" since they'd be vetting their posts super crazy. I think it was Ver that said townies can dare to post fearlessly, while mafia are restricted to posting fearfully.
Lynch for information, a risk worth taking... I want what this guy has been smoking.
To be honest, a lot of newbies think lynching solely for info is a good idea. Heck I thought it tons when I first started. If you look at early games in the Mafia forum we use to lynch a lot for info. Of course back then we had list checks...but i think logically, saying lynching for info makes sense since every lynch gives info inherently.
Your case on Rean is weak at the moment but I'd be willing to take a second look at a later time
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To be honest, a lot of newbies think lynching solely for info is a good idea. Heck I thought it tons when I first started. If you look at early games in the Mafia forum we use to lynch a lot for info. Of course back then we had list checks...but i think logically, saying lynching for info makes sense since every lynch gives info inherently.
To better explain this. It's an easy logical leap to say, we lynched a green, most of the people wanting to lynch him but didn't vote for it/were wishy washy about it are red! We lynched a red, most of the people defending him vehemently must be red!
This is true especially for newbies just getting into games. When vets are doing it is when you start calling them out on it.
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On April 14 2011 09:28 LSB wrote:
Contradictions arn't a 100% scum tell. Contradictions are a symptom of fake scumhunting and manipulation. Rean doesn't seem like the one to be manipulative and he doesn't done any scumhunting yet.
Exactly. While contradictions are suspicious. it's the subtle contradictions that are the most suspicious. I'll be keeping my eye on rean but his contradictions are full 180 degree. It's more the wishy washy people who can't seem to take a side that are likely to be scum.
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On April 14 2011 10:37 GMarshal wrote:
Oh, actually I do want to hear one response from the assassin
Flamewheel, what result, exactly did coag return?
He said coag returned mafia didnt he
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BrownBear Does DT checks give back alignment or roles?
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So we lynch someone scummy, if prot flips DT we can deal with GM/Coag then.
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Everyone switch your votes to GMarshal, otherwise he will pardon Coagulation and this lynch is going to be wasted.
...did you...did you really just say that? You're switch targets from the person you "checked and flipped red" to GM? If GM pardons Coag we still get two mafia. Man...losing trust very very fast lol
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On April 13 2011 16:30 Coagulation wrote:
Im Vigi
I got an easy solution here. WATCH ASSASSINS RAPE HIM NIGHT 2. He Flips assassin or scum IM CLEARED. ITS SO SIMPLE.
On April 13 2011 16:30 Coagulation wrote:
sorry i ment Vet
i got my V's mixed up
Im fucking infuriated that he would fucking lie like this.
I still find this scummy as fuck btw. I'll sleep on this, will vote tomorrow
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How you going to get vigi and vet mixed up...
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You may invoke the power at any time during the day cycle you choose, and no lynch will happen that day.
If he pardons there's no lynch that day so we can't do anything against it Mr. Wiggles. BTW, I still think you're scum GM and I still think ON/LSB is scum. I've already analyzed ON previously but if you look at LSB's posting all day today it's a complete chainsaw defense of Coag onto Prot.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 14 2011 05:03 LSB wrote:Take a look at Flamewheel's analysis http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=204956¤tpage=88#1752He's calling Coagulation scummy because all coagulation has been doing is Show nested quote +But that's not all. The whole game, he is useless and does nothing except spam and spread doubt on the mayoral candidates. The more interesting and important point though, is that he has an utter lack of conviction on who could be mafia. It completely ignores Coag's town play. You guys have played with coag before. All he does is spam, and yell at people. I have never seen Coag do analysis. In addition, Flamewheel is saying Coagulation is red for two things 1) Going against his campaign 2) Trying to not get kavdragon lynched + Show Spoiler +Btw why was kavdragon lynched? I just seems stupid that you guys would lynch him These aren't mafia traits. These are completely town traits. I don't see why it benefits the town to have an SK as a mayor. And I don't see why you guys should have lynched Kavdragon. So why are you blindly following Flamewheel? Just because he's a vet? If you don't think he is blue, lynch him.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 14 2011 05:04 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 04:57 ilovejonn wrote:
Coagulation if you're playing pro-town, please come up with your analysis of who we SHOULD lynch instead. I know defending yourself is important but at least, like Kavdragon, post out all your thoughts when there is a high chance of you dying today. lol. Since when has Coagulation done analysis? Lynch Flamewheel. I don't see any benefit in keeping him alive
+ Show Spoiler +On April 14 2011 05:09 LSB wrote:This picture was only to get you to read this post Why you should lynch Flamewheel. Flamewheel is clearly not blue. We know this because he does not play like a DT. This is true for two reasons. 1) He claimed assassin instead of DT day 1. Either role will be roleblocked as mafia, and as DT he should have tried to stay away from the spotlight, instead of claimming a role that will results in three hits on him night 2 2) He claimed DT day 2 instead of simple analysis to push Coag. There is a reason why DTs don't publically claim day 2. Because the momement a DT claims, they will be roleblocked/night hit until they are dead. This means Flamewheel must be red or black. Lynch him
He gets so into it that he says that we should lynch Flamewheel whether he is black or red when clearly if he's black he can just leave him for the assassins to pick apart.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 14 2011 05:11 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 05:08 ilovejonn wrote:
I know he hasn't but wouldn't it be smart to put something out there instead of dying useless? I'm not saying Coag is going to die 100% but there's a high chance, especially if he's not mafia then mafia will probably try to put votes on him. Uhh... it's like trying to get Doc H to lynch a red, or Bill Murray to show respect, or Jackal to explain his actions. It's not happening. Wtf is up with the analysis on Coagulation anyways? From what I've read Coagulation is red because 1) Going against the campaign of a claimed black 2) Trying to not get someone he believes is green not lynched 3) And being his normal spammy and unhelpful
Defends coag, in fact, this whole day he's been only focusing on coag's defense
Even responds to a rean FoS by saying he doesn't think rean is all that scummy but would rather lynch rean over coag when coag hasn't done a single thing that rean hasn't done, both have been useless to town.
On April 14 2011 09:22 LSB wrote:
Still I don't see it as being too damming. They are just little things, like lynching for information, throwing out FOS. Trying to get people to protect FW doesn't mean that he's necessarily scum. Of course, if FW flips red Rean is going to be in hot water, but Rean's support for FW is based on the fact that FW is a vet.
I have a neutral read on Rean, however I'd rather lynch Rean over Coagulation.
On April 14 2011 09:28 LSB wrote:
Contradictions arn't a 100% scum tell. Contradictions are a symptom of fake scumhunting and manipulation. Rean doesn't seem like the one to be manipulative and he doesn't done any scumhunting yet.
ends everything with a nice:
On April 14 2011 10:47 LSB wrote:
Can we lynch Flamewheel now?
when, if FW is black, then we wouldn't want to waste one on him
##Vote ON/LSB
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Either an ON or Coag lynch is ok with me
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Ok so are we stay on Coag or ON? I think both of them are scum.
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On April 14 2011 15:17 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Didn't ON get replaced?
ON, LSB, same thing.
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Vote for Coag, AO, prot might be black, which is what I thought he was anyway and why I said we shouldn't be giving him medic prots at night, but his analysis of coag is spot on.
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On April 14 2011 21:26 redFF wrote:
Coag may or may not be scum. Frankly, it doesn't matter to me, because listening to a proven LIAR is wrong. He claimed assassin then dt, just ignore him. I prefer ignore all liars over lynch all liars, because we don't have to waste a lynch. I thought ON was scum day 1 so my vote for now is on LSB, leave FW to rot and we can see how he flips. He deserves no trust.
You know, this is the exact logic I used to try to get LSB lynched in XXXVII and guess what, I WAS MAFIA. To look logic and analysis in the face and go NOPE! HE LIED! WE LYNCH LIARS! is wrong!
There comes a point where, even though he lied about his alignment, his argument still holds water. The fact that you're jumping straight to saying that it's not because his analysis of Coagulation is wrong that we shouldn't vote Coag but that we shouldn't vote Coagulation merely on the simple fact that he lied, focusing more of our attention on the lie than to analysis to get us off Coag's vote sends big scum signs off for me, not that I haven't been thinking you are scum all game.
FoS RedFF for now, we can lynch you at a later date
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EWODP:
You know, this is the exact logic I used to try to get LSB lynched in XXXVII and guess what, I WAS MAFIA. To look logic and analysis in the face and go NOPE! HE LIED! WE LYNCH LIARS! WE IGNORE LIARS! is wrong!
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On April 15 2011 04:13 LSB wrote:
Chaoser do you think coagulation is red?
For Sure Yo
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I can do a complete analysis later if you want on why I now think he's red.
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