Insane Mafia 2

On March 13 2011 10:35 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
/in

Awwwww, yeah!!!!

Speech from Bravetown

Wiggles: Sons of TeamLiquid, I am Wiggles the Bear.

Young Coag: Wiggles the Bear is 7 feet tall.

Wiggles: Yes, I've heard. Kills scum by the hundreds, and if he were here he'd consume the Reds with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse. I AM Wiggles the Bear. And I see a whole town of my countrymen here in defiance of the Mafia. You have come to scumhunt as active men, and active men you are. What would you do without activity? Will you scumhunt?

Veteran Poster: Scumhunt? Against them? No, we will lurk; and we will live.

Wiggles: Aye, scumhunt and you may die. Lurk and you'll live -- at least a while. And dying in the day post many cycles from now, would you be willing to trade all the cycles from this cycle to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell the Mafia that they may take our lives, but they'll never take our activity!!!

Wiggles and Town: Alba gu bra! (Teamliquid forever!)

(Wins many awards)

Victory speech:

I'd like to thank the academy, my family, and Coagulation, he was my biggest inspiration.I think this film really speaks out about the issues plaguing TL mafia towns in games today. *Music Plays* Thank you all!

On March 19 2011 03:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
well well well. If Mr lemon doesn't join the mafia forum. Welcome to the battle comrade.

On March 24 2011 11:42 GMarshal wrote:


Wait, what? I'm assuming that the third party all work together like a mini scum team, so why would they not be organized? Did I miss something? or do you know something I dont?

On March 24 2011 11:57 chaoser wrote:
Also, something I'd like to point out



We got a 2 in 6 chance of giving mayor to either black or red if we vote for someone in the item game while it's 16 to 8 if we vote for someone not in the game that a townie gets the mayor role (exclude them from the count so 20 town->16, 6->5 mafia, 4->3 black so that's 16:8)

On March 24 2011 12:02 tnkted wrote:


well, i'm single, so its not like I go to bed with a girl every night like he does. I just get laid with more variety, i guess.

On March 24 2011 12:08 tnkted wrote:


Well, that would be a fairly simple thing to fake, wouldn't it.

That's not a confirm, its a shred of evidence.

On March 24 2011 12:12 Lemonwalrus wrote:

Well, with 6/30 a monkey throwing darts would be pretty good at getting town reads day 1.

On March 24 2011 12:32 Kavdragon wrote:
Right, all caught up now. Kav mode: Engaging

First order of business: COAG! WILL YOU BE MY BFF?

On March 24 2011 12:57 Coagulation wrote:
nm i didnt see scumatlarge's post.

well between the two of them we got good candidates.

On March 25 2011 05:11 Tackster wrote:
Sorry Coagulation I may have misread this:

On March 25 2011 08:39 annul wrote:
holy fucking shit

will ANYONE, a single person, in the entire game, challenge my MATHEMATICAL analysis of the item game and why it is beneficial to give mayorship to an item game player? i dont care if you think i am a scum, because my MATH is sound. if im scum, nominate someone else. an item game player needs to be mayor.

On March 25 2011 08:46 GMarshal wrote:


I'm going to disagree, fo a bunch of reasons

1.) no group can afford to take out everyone in the item game but their player as he instantly is revealed (e.g. if the mafia teams takes out all the greens and hangs the 3rd party well, who the mafia is becomes evident)

This is silly hey will have no problem sacraficing a player to gain all items for their team.


2.) Why? If they hit in the game they might hit a player who's items have been stolen or who has a crappy item, by hitting the town they have a better chance of getting a blue or a good power.

i have talked to LSB a little about the items not much but enough to know the items are worth far more than blue roles. definitly worth more than any unsure blue snipes

3.) Medics should use their saves on the most protown players. period. whether in the item game or out of it. Also why are we discussion blue's actions Night 0? the night is still 48+ hours away and we need to worry about other issues.

On March 25 2011 10:26 tnkted wrote:
Personally, I think that coag is mafia. His instavoting for jackal, and his complete lack of contribution make me suspicious. What does everyone else think?

On March 25 2011 12:45 CubEdIn wrote:
i voted for bum.

if you make me write down the reasons again i swear i'll murder someone.

On March 26 2011 03:58 Beneather wrote:
It's really hard to catch up in this thread it just blows by so fast! ahhhhh! Can someone please tell me who are the candidates that are running for mayor?

On March 26 2011 12:14 tnkted wrote:
You know what actually? This is too good an opportunity. If Jackal can pass this test, he's green and we'll follow his plan. Otherwise, hes scum and we can kill him.

Ok heres the plan: In several of my posts so far in this thread I have laid carefully laid clues that only a townie would understand. These clues are directly related to a specific thing that all townies share but no blue, blacks or reds share: Your Role alignment PM. If you are a townie and you've been reading my posts, its pretty obvious that I am also a townie because I've been quoting words and phrases from that alignment PM. I want you to quote a post where I do so. The words and phrases are not hard to see, they aren't words like 'the.' If you're green, you'll be able to find something. If you aren't... well...

Also...
ANYBODY THAT GIVES ANY HINTS OR POSTS ANY SPOILERS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SCUM IMMEDIATELY
... although i anticipate scum having a very difficult time figuring it out unless somebody tells somebody in your PM circle.

If Jackal can come up with one example in my posts, then we can confirm him as town and will know that his plan is legit.

On March 26 2011 12:28 Coagulation wrote:



ok sit tight.. i will go over your posts

On March 26 2011 12:46 tnkted wrote:
coag, you're acting extremely scummy right now. The PMS are absolutely in a different format per alignment, and annul since quoted one of my breadcrumbs they are the same regardless of item game. Can you not find any?

But before you answer that I want to know if jackal can find one. There are several.

And yeah, annul is clear.

Original Message From Tackster:
Any thoughts on this game?

Red/Black FoSes

Original Message From Coagulation:
im pretty sure its you and darm.

Original Message From Tackster:
I'll take some reasons if you have any...

Also im catching up on thread so bear with me

From: Tackster [ 53 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: RE: Item Game
Date: 3/26/11 14:14
OK Guys there is obviously a circling of wagons going on here... I'm PMing this to all mini-game players with a pearl of wisdom:

THERE IS SCUM IN THE MINI-GAME

We each need to rely on our OWN opinions and we need to realise that strategy is going to win the mini-game not dumb luck.

So I expect everybody in the mini-game to reply to this PM and evaluate me using my bloody opinion as well...

2 of us are mafia and they will be the one's sowing dissent and FOSsing the others.

We need to work out our Steal/Defend/Use strategy, we need to try and assess item powers and get scum to slip.

If you're all going to genuflect to Jackal veteran status and ignore me this is going to auto-fail for town.

Also apart from Jackal and Coagulation I don't really see many IG related posts.

The mayorship is seems basically decided, right now the only 2 worries are how will we handle this mini-game and how will we out the scum.

Yours Expectantly,
A backstabbed green

On March 26 2011 15:23 Lanaia wrote:
Okay, I take back what I said about iGrok playing to his town meta. He no longer is doing so from what I can tell.



I don't think a celebratory hangover would cause him to completely forget PMs during gametime with people you aren't part of a group with aren't allowed.

On March 27 2011 06:24 Insanious wrote:
I love how jackal and coag have been all "We have proof, Tack is scum, kill him!"

When its really just "Tack is the least popular out of us 6, and one of us 6 need to die... so it might as well be Tack"

Funny how basically the reason you are killing him is that he is new to TL :/.

On March 27 2011 06:32 deconduo wrote:


You skip by the question once again. You have not given an shred of any sort of evidence against him other than your opinion. You can't even find ONE scummy post.

On March 27 2011 06:33 Insanious wrote:

No, this is a post from a disgruntled town, because I don't get to play the game till IG is dealt with.

If I analyze someone I get:

"Just wait till IG is done, and we will see what happens"

If I ask for someone to explain them selves:

"I'm part of IG, I don't need to explain my self"

- - -

This game is not fun for me in anyway, simply because the IG players are doing thier own things and the rest of town doesn't get to do anything till it is over.

On March 27 2011 08:32 Insanious wrote:

I'm interested in killing scum. Tack doesn't look scummy to me... Jackal does.

Has nothing to do with Tack. I haven't even brought up the Tack lynch in a while. I've been talking about killing Jackal, where he lied. He was lieing while talking about Tack.

Don't try to make a link where there isn't one.

There is a big difference between me defending tack and attacking Jackal. You can't seem to see that. Hopefully the rest of the town can.

On March 27 2011 08:47 chaoser wrote:
Ok, so here's how I'm seeing/understanding things.

Jackal approached Coag with a plan that will confirm each other to one another.
Coag accepts that the plan is logical, foolproof, and will work.
Since it is in the Item Game where there is only 1 red and 1 black, Coag reasons that MAFIA would never do this since mafia wouldn't want to confirm himself as red.

This is why Coag is defending Jackal.

Is that the reasoning coag?

On March 27 2011 11:02 Insanious wrote:
Well... looks like town gets to win Item game, lol.

On March 27 2011 11:05 Insanious wrote:

You can kill me if you want. I am town, you will spill my green blood... as long as when I die, you guys lynch a target of my choosing afterwards... IF I turn of green.

On March 27 2011 11:37 annul wrote:
HE said he was going to steal from you. i never told him who i was stealing from

On March 26 2011 05:18 Coagulation wrote:
PEOPLE LOVE LIST'S
1. RebirthOfLeGenD
2. Jackal58
3. OriginalName
4. Kenpachi
5. deconduo
6. Kavdragon
7.[strikethrough]darmousseh [/strikethrough]
8. bumatlarge
9. GMarshal
10. Coagulation
11. orgolove
12. chaoser
13. Meapak_Ziphh
14. annul
15. kevconsim
16. Mr. Wiggles
17. CubEdIn
18. GGQ
19. ilovejonn
20. Amber[LighT]
21. BrownBear
22. Lemonwalrus
23. Rean
24. tnkted
25. Tackster
26. Lanaia
27. iGrok
28. Beneather
29. Insanious
30. Eiii

On March 28 2011 11:06 Tackster wrote:


You left yourself out O.o

On March 28 2011 11:06 tnkted wrote:
And darm was black, not red.

On March 28 2011 11:12 Tackster wrote:
Hey @coag - how did the confirming each other go? any info yet?

On March 28 2011 11:25 bumatlarge wrote:


Shut the fuck up. I know for 100% certain that this coming straight from your ass because I know exactly why annul died, and it has absolutely nothing to do with tackster.

Aw Gmarshal, would that I had known what I know now! I think I'll have more stuff later.

On March 28 2011 11:43 Tackster wrote:
We're not even an hour into day 2 and already you're putting votes up????

Apart from the rushing very little of the possible information gleaned has even been analysed AND Bum hasn't voted just stated something...

So in case I die remember this post and remember how chaoser reacted!!

On March 28 2011 11:54 bumatlarge wrote:
Let's just say I made the mistake of taking coagulation word as opposed to LSB's, and even then there is room for error.

On March 28 2011 12:16 chaoser wrote:


Seriously you and Coag need to write things out more clearly -_-

You said you had a gun and would probs use it on Tack. Tack wanted to steal the gun so you wouldn't shoot him. It was a lie and instead Coag had the gun. He shot Tack. Mafia didn't want to take chances so they bussed Tack.

Is that what you're saying?

If so, in that case, didn't Coag claim he had a stun gun or something way early in the thread? Didn't you claim you had a band aid?

From: Lemonwalrus [ 4454 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: hey
Date: 3/28/11 12:21
I protected. It seemed like my only play...but I'm starting to think I should have stolen tack's shit. (it auto uses every night even if I protect it)

Original Message From Coagulation:
did u use your vest?

On March 28 2011 12:27 Insanious wrote:
Just want to throw this out there...

Say Lemon is mafia. He knew what items both jackal and caog had.

Lemon steals from jackal (taking away town medic), then gets mafia to buss the target (tack) that coag had told him.

This would result in annul dying, town lynching tack, and mafia winning IG. Just a thought. Im off to bed now though.

On March 28 2011 12:17 Coagulation wrote:
Also i would like to urge all you scumfucks to come on out and defend your scum bud tackster.

On March 28 2011 12:35 Lanaia wrote:
Logically, we should be asking tackster what he did last niht, shouldn't we?

Logical Inconsistency:

If Tackster were Red, why would he both try to steal the item to prevent his death, AND Red would use their Bus on him? Surely one would have been sufficient to save him. This is primarily what is making me look more closely into what's happening rather than blindly accepting that Tack is scum.

What might have happened (and how it will continue):

Jackal is Mafia
Jackal says he has KP in thread, Tack steals (Don't know his motivations, but he thinks Jackal is red, so maybe he wanted to try to stop a red KP)
Coag really has the gun
Jackal convinces Coag to shoot Tack
Mafia know Coag is shooting Tack, bus it to Annul
Town is now convinced Tack is scum, lynches Green. Scum kills townies, wins IG

On March 28 2011 13:31 Eiii wrote:
Aww, I'm on a scumlist now? :/ I eagerly await your reasons then, kav.

Quick question: If the whole IG plan was to bait the scum player into stealing jackal's items, why did jackal just let it get stolen instead of protecting it? That's the one thing that I'm confused by in this whole affair.

3. My scum team bussing Annul is stupid
Apparently if I am scum and my team bus Coags shot onto Annul then that 100% confirms me as scum. If that is the case this is a TERRIBLE plan for mafia. Why do something so obvious?

Now to the conclusions:
1. The other three IG players have in no-way confirmed each other
Your in no way confirmed either Moot point. Not to mention I STILL have the ability to CONFIRM JACKAL after we lynch you. Another moot point because he will be confirmed when you flip red
2. The fact that they are so sure of themselves without confirmation throws their judgement into question - green or not.
Ok fantastic this doesnt help you at all.
3. Jackal can easily be scum. The plan is clever but also strong and something red could have come up with. They didn't even need to come up with it before jackal decided on his 'plan' because as he is such a tunneler they probably just decided to make the most of it
Ok but how does this prove your green in the slightest.. you have given 0 information for town to attempt to work with. you just repeat over and over jackal could be scum. thats fantastic why dont you try coming up with a plan like jackal did why dont you try dumping information that town wants to know in the thread like jackal did.
4. The IG is in great peril. All evidence has to be scrutinized, all votes have to be carefully considered
your mafia teams chance at getting the items are in peril
5. My stealing Jackals item in NO WAY makes me scummy. It was in fact the town thing to do.

On March 28 2011 15:25 GGQ wrote:
Also, it's pretty obvious by now that jackal and coagulation never had a plan to confirm each other. They decided early that they trusted each other, then that they trusted lemonwalrus and they made their plans from there. They lied to town about confirming each other so that we'd trust them and listen to them. I know LaL is a pretty good policy, but if their lies win town the item game... well, you can't argue with results.

On March 28 2011 15:35 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

lol wtf? When did you ever launch a successful campaign against a mafia single handedly? That is such a huge claim that has absolutely no backing. Hell, even when I make claims like that I feel a bit foolish knowing I am not anywhere near as good as players like Ver/Foolishness or the other vets, even if I am generally considered one of the better players.

so in short, I won't follow your gut just because of that. Explain your reasoning properly and account for everything and present a legitimate argument and I will listen to you. No one should trust you based off of your "gut" feeling without any actual evidential backing.

And yes, I have read and I understand what you are saying and I agree it looks fishy and I will lynch him for it. But can you explain how tack/annul were bussed and somehow Annul was still hit twice when Jackal was announcing his hit all day?

On March 28 2011 15:55 Tackster wrote:
Jackal but I'm of course saving my vote in case any new evidence pops up.

And yes I know that I can always unvote but I don't like the idea of deciding im totally right before the day is a quarter through.

You're posts are so much nicer when they aren't in caps!! Beautiful handwriting

On March 28 2011 16:07 Tackster wrote:
@Coag - let me ask you a question:

If i do flip green then who do you think is the scum?

On March 28 2011 17:30 chaoser wrote:


what...that doesn't even make sense...reds know there's no blues in IG too...

On March 28 2011 17:30 chaoser wrote:


I don't think role reversal works that way...

On March 29 2011 02:23 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

I am pretty sure they just trust each other off of reads. Since we know all their item powers we know that nothing they have can confirm each other.

Then, we have Coagulation's shot. He claims this was fired at Tackster. There was no bus-driver to swap them around, and since Tackster was still alive, this is obviously bullshit. Lying about who you fired on, that's not very nice of you, Coagulation. Care to explain?

On March 29 2011 06:23 BrownBear wrote:
Coag, you too, if you happen to read this. If either of you plays in XXXVIII and pulls this shit, you'll be permabanned from any games I host. Play the damn game to completion.

Specificially (bum being hit notwithstanding, apparently that never happened), Tack can not be guilty because he thought Jackal had the gun. If Tack was mafia he would have mind controlled Jackal to kill annul and not Coagulation, who really had it.

On March 29 2011 10:42 bumatlarge wrote:
Can you please just trust me on the annul hit. He was shot before coag's shot hit him. I'm not allowed to explain it. Plus, the same mysterious sources that told me annul got shot by scum, also tells me scum is desperate, and is fairly certain they won't win the IG.

Tackster being the prime suspect and that coming out does not surprise me. I'll be putting my vote on tack for now.

On March 29 2011 10:51 tnkted wrote:
Ok bum, I'll trust you on the annul being hit by red thing.

That changes things dirastically however. What it means is that black must have been the ones who used MC.

Yeeeeech. Now things get messy. If black used MC then they must have know that Coag had the gun. Coag, did you or Jackal or Lemon tell darm that you had a gun?

On March 29 2011 10:52 tnkted wrote:
THEY GOT THE GUN. THEY USED YOU AS THE GUN. YOU ARE THE METAPHORICAL GUN, IN THIS SENARIO

HOW DID THEY KNOW WHO HAD THE GUN COAG? Explain me that. HOW DID THEY KNOW?

On March 29 2011 10:56 tnkted wrote:
Coag, are you saying that they used their mind control ability on you JUST IN CASE you and jackal had built up a hugely elaborate plan spanning 80+ pages, then shot annul with their own KP, JUST IN CASE you were running a sting operation?

That is hugely unlikely that they would spend so much of their force on a hunch like that.

On March 29 2011 10:57 Coagulation wrote:
They dont have the gun tonight
They dont have the KP they dont get to aim the KP at whoever they want tonight

THEY dont have the gun.

Why the fuck would they choose letting me keep the gun and maybe getting a shot off where they want over you know... ACTUALLY TAKING THE GUN AND HAVING CONTROL OF IT.

THEY WOULDNT.

On March 29 2011 11:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:


So are we confirming Coagulation as well under this assumption?

On March 30 2011 05:47 Tackster wrote:
So people are considering switching their votes and the fact that the evidence is unfounded has been claimed over and over.

I've worked hard as hell to try and show my innocence here.

What do I have to do to see some action? The vote is 4 hours away...

On March 30 2011 06:07 Tackster wrote:


Is it wrong to try and change people's minds because it's in towns interest...

And yet want to die so people like coag might re-evaluate their terrible play?

On March 30 2011 06:13 Tackster wrote:


When i flip green you probably will realise you should have reasons when you make decisions.

pretty big tard tell
probably shouldn't do it any more

On March 30 2011 06:16 Tackster wrote:


The main point was to try and get you to evaluate your play...

The whole tard tell thing was a poke at the way you preached