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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On March 26 2011 13:48 Insanious wrote: Btw, just to side with Bum... I am not a fan of tricking the scum like this. I want to win through scum hunting, and them slipping up, not by LSB/Kita giving people different alignment PMs. I'm not going to ruin your plan, but I still want to come out and say that it just doesn't feel right (not in the, this might be a scum plan, way... but in the I morally object to it way.) but if LSB and Kita says its ok... I agree with this but I also agree with tnkt's use everything possible attitude. If the hosts say we can use it, lets use it. Even if doesn't work the way it's intended to, it's getting a lot of responses (like OriginalName's that are...interesting to say the least) | ||
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kevconsim
United States317 Posts
On March 26 2011 13:51 Jackal58 wrote: Really? Because i haven't got a clue wtf you're on about? I can't link my role PM from Kita but if LSB allows I'll copy and paste it. Honestly I have no idea what you are looking for. Sit tight your role is coming. And a link. I didn't get a role I got an item. Wtf do you want from me breadcrumb man? The real way to put FOS on Jackal is to put it in your sig so that no one notices but him. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 26 2011 13:47 Lemonwalrus wrote: I think jackal is drunk this pleases me gun toting drunk guy pew-pewing scum without giving a single shit about his own well being. This will be entertainment of the highest caliber. I am. And I'm going to bed. I'm soon to post things Qatol has informed me are bad juju for mafia players. So rather than making an ass out of myself my drunken ass is going to go flame people on another forum where I can get away with it and finish my beer. Bum please consider my post and let me know whether I'm dead or not. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 26 2011 13:54 tnkted wrote: Actually, its alignment PM that I refer to in my posts. All the role PMs are different. Well that's a big freakin difference there isn't it Pilgrim.  | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
First things first - ##Vote BumAtLarge If there haven't been ccs up until now Blue is fail and not doing their Job. I also want to clear up this 'stay away from noobs' issue. Yes, I can confirm this is my first Forum Mafia game. And no i'm not new to mafia - i've played on EpicMafia for about a month. I do NOT wish to be given any preferential treatment. If you would lynch me as a veteran player than lynch me now. I won't be put off playing in the forums simply cos I died n1. This is important to the game and if I need to be cleared that way for town to win I AM FINE WITH IT. I will however be put off playing if the reason I am lynched is due to moronic strategy... The next point to address is of course Jackals unfounded, undefended decision to tunnel me at all costs. To start with apparently he has 4/6 consensus that I am scum. On it's face we all know that there are 2 scum in the IG circle. So a realistic possibility is that 2 of these 4 are scum and are trying to get anyone lynched but themselves. As i AM green this is highly likely and so we're relying on a consensus that is likely 50% scum. HOW is that consensus?? More to the point he made it clear there was someone who was against lynching me. As I think we can all agree red and black have NO REASON to work together IG as then green knows who to lynch. Because of this we won't see any teamwork except from green. From that reasoning if anyone is defending me IG it's because they're almost certainly green. So an almost certain green believes me to be town and a 50% scum 'team' say i'm scum... Next I had only PMd ONE person before going to be last night. I told that person that we have an opportunity to work together because they gave me green vibes in the thread. I made a CLEAR condition however - I would only work together once I had somehow cleared them AND they had cleared me. That is to say I don't work with people that I haven't cleared but I also don't work with people that im not sure have cleared me. For the obvious reason that it doesn't make sense to work with me if im not clear to you. Seeing as I only spoke with 1 person this item game team has decided i'm scum WITHOUT EVEN TALKING TO ME. Jackal, coag, etc. have PMd only today while i've been catching up on the thread to find this unbelievably wild accusation When I finally PMd jackal the only thing he had to say was: You scum. Dunno if it's black or red but you scum. This isn't even scumhunting… This is complete tunneling based on no information. Jackal isn't even interested in hearing my defense, he just heard from some other players and said 'Well that's decided then...' Another point - Jackal seems to feel that his plan is auto-win on the IG… Notice how we're getting all kinds of wild suggestions such as lynching all IG players: Beneather Canada. March 26 2011 11:45. Posts 383 I think we should just lynch all the IG players (: Bound to get some scum players then and we won't have to worry about items making Mafia win.. So killing all the IG players will probrably help us more than it's going to hurt us.. What kind of strategy is this? I surely expect stronger play than this in this game. A lot of Jackals 'strong' scumhunting abilities have been mentioned. For reasons I listed above this consensus is not a strong tell of who is or isn't scum. Also his abilities are in question with the simple fact that there's a 33% chance of him BEING scum… Note how in the thread previously the only person to FOS me has been coagulation: Coagulation United States. March 26 2011 05:18. Posts 4498 PEOPLE LOVE LIST'S 1. RebirthOfLeGenD 2. Jackal58 3. OriginalName 4. Kenpachi 5. deconduo 6. Kavdragon 7. darmousseh 8. bumatlarge 9. GMarshal 10. Coagulation 11. orgolove 12. chaoser 13. Meapak_Ziphh 14. annul 15. kevconsim 16. Mr. Wiggles 17. CubEdIn 18. GGQ 19. ilovejonn 20. Amber[LighT] 21. BrownBear 22. Lemonwalrus 23. Rean 24. tnkted 25. Tackster 26. Lanaia 27. iGrok 28. Beneather 29. Insanious 30. Eiii Coagulation supplied NO evidence or support for his claim. As I was unfortunately sleeping which is required of me by the fact that I'm human I haven't been able to adress this until now which is in fact when he has obviously used this baseless FOS to influence jackal as well… If we're outing PMs such as coag did above then I firstly want to mention: Why would I try and defend myself to someone that could be scum? Surely I don't want to leak who I believe the other greens are to a possible red/black? And surely I can't retaliate until I know what has been said about me. Coagulation you're entire manifesto against me has NO foundation. There has been other stuff in the thread that I find we need to be wary of but unfortunately now I'm busy having to defend myself.. More to follow | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On March 26 2011 13:44 tnkted wrote: Um, I don't think I'm voting you for mayor anymore. I talked with LSB about this plan BEFORE I POSTED IT and he didn't have a problem with it at all. Kita did at first, but he talked to LSB and they gave me the go ahead. This plan wouldn't work at all if it wasn't for the item game, where we can be certain that there aren't any blues. So its not unfair at all IMO; its a tactical play that can only work in a certain place. LSB said it himself. Anything goes in this game, its insane mafia. And I want a mayor who wants to win, one who is willing to take any advantage he/she can get. But since you're likely to be elected anyway, I hope this little stunt helped you in some small way. If it helps at all, I consider annul, coag, lemonwalrus, and insanious all to be clean because of this plan, but I might be biased because I came up with it.  Alright, if LSB thinks it's fair then go for it. But just be wary, if it is a method that let's you catch scum without scum being given the means to defend against it, it will fail. I can guarantee you that. I trust most of the IG players to be able to see this anyway, so I'd love to hear what you guys come up with. You seem to be heavily invested in this, so if it fails for some reason, You'll lose a lot of respect. Just throwing that out there. Guarantee RoL and Kav will agree with me. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On March 26 2011 13:56 Jackal58 wrote: I am. And I'm going to bed. I'm soon to post things Qatol has informed me are bad juju for mafia players. So rather than making an ass out of myself my drunken ass is going to go flame people on another forum where I can get away with it and finish my beer. Bum please consider my post and let me know whether I'm dead or not. If I killed you because you were drunk in mafia, I'd be a massive hypocrite.  You probably should trust the other IG players if they think you are town. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
So an almost certain green believes me to be town and a 50% scum 'team' say i'm scum... That person was annul btw I think Jackal mentioned | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
i never told jackal i thought tackster was a red or black either. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
What I mean is there is NOTHING to do with it in the quicktopics and I have not had ANY strategic talk through PMs. Basically if anything has been happening in the PM circle it's that a group of people have been deciding im scum behind my back without even talking to me. Now the scum have a strong interest in persuading the PM to be anti-green so the scum are having a great time seeding doubt while i'm the kid in the corner no one wants to play with... This thread is the only one where I seem to have any say. You guys who are so ready to FOS me PM me and dont rely entirely on people in the IG that can be scum ffs... | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
maybe you want to reply to my PMs and maybe then you will get the strategic play you seek ;( | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
Frankly my scumhunting sucks, but I don't think I'm wrong this time. (if you flip black/red Tackster I'll be pissed as hell) The breadcrumbing from tnkted seems to me like an awesome plan, however it seems inherently unjust, like comparing PM times to figure out roles, which makes me assume all alignment pms are not exactly the same. Still its a clever and pro town plan, kudos for coming up with it, in the future I suggest mods include a sample town alignment PM in the OP to avoid the possibility of this type of play. Either way we have a couple of semi confirmed townies. Also inactives, don't think I'm forgetting about you, I'm coming for you and you *will* die if you don't post more | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
So far annul is the only person I've really spoken with. And we aren't exactly BFFs.... | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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