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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 07 2011 14:14 GMT
#1994
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On March 07 2011 15:44 gryffindor wrote:
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On March 07 2011 13:29 LSB wrote:
LAL? Well, Mr. Vet/Medic/Greenie, we have a liar here

I don't care what you think Bus means. Here I call it, and the majority of players call it what I mean. We are not MS. There's no silly 'tells' we go by, weird acrynoms are generally frowned on, and gameplay here is a lot more fun.

Oh yeah, I forgot about you soft defending annul day one. Thanks for pointing that out

And I don't see why you are resorting to the 'I do more work than you so I am town"
If I recall correctly, that was last used to defend Barunder. I swear chaoser was the one that said it

Your town play has been pretty bad this game, and I wouldn't be surprised if yesterday you threw out another one of your own, considering how close you are to LYLO. If you want to incorrectly use terminology, go for it, I won't feed into that nor will I be feeding your trolling..

Gameplay here is more fun except when you run into people who believe that they are better than they are. I know my town play is greatly improving, but I guess you don't realize that, yet I still consider myself fairly inept as town because I'm not that good at convincing people. You have been bitter towards me from the start of the game, and actually have done a good job scumhunting.. bravo.. but you almost got lynched how many times?

hahaha LSB. My play as mafia has devolved into lurking and gaming the town, and posting terrible (see orgah endgame)

Plus, anyways, I know you aren't suspicious of me, just as I'm not suspicious of you, though I'm sure we could both make great cases on the other. You know this because I wouldn't have sent you that original PM I was mafia, when we got Annul. This has been a weird game, and you're trying to figure it out just like I am, and just like Foolishness was.

Is it possible both you and Jackal are lying? Sure. However, I don't believe that you are capable of sniping blues in the way that they were sniped. I would be, so yeah, that is a point against me, but I would have actually been better than this.

From a PM with Foolishness, talking about who could snipe blues other than me:
Show nested quote +

Unfortunately for me I'm practically the only person that can do that (LSB ain't that good yo).


So, who is mafia? Individually, I want to lean towards GMarshal for his associative tells with Annul, but looking at the bigger picture, I realize I have to keep my head on a swivel. There are still likely 3 scum, and we REALLY need to get their KP down to 1. So, GMarshal is out. ohN is out. Your vote on him is horrible.

Why? Because he's not the Godfather.
Who do you expect to be the Godfather? Do you believe Annul would have let me be the Godfather? I don't.

Let's see how good you really are.
##UNVOTE: LD
##VOTE: Gryffindor


Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 07 2011 14:34 GMT
#1997
On March 07 2011 23:24 gryffindor wrote:
I don't even see how I need to respond to your "case", Jackal. I also believe that your voting me for that reason is both a joke and asinine.

If you actually feel like you have a case on me, go ahead and address it.

We only have 12 and a half hours left to get this lynch correct, and while I don't really mind being lynched, I would rather us lynch the Godfather and reduce their ability to kill per night to 1.


You've claimed Medic and Veteran. If you were a medic you would have died last night. The hits from mafia last night make absolutely no sense. Almost like you picked them.

You've asserted that LSB is a liar and should be lynched for that after you became a MOD confirmed liar yourself. I put on a push to save LSB and lynch a red yet you still float accusations of LSB and I both lying. Why would a townie do that? Oh that's right he wouldn't.

You have chosen a brilliant way to play scum but like I said before an insanity defense rarely works.

Oh and we have 36 hours to mourn your upcoming demise.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 07 2011 14:35 GMT
#1998
On March 07 2011 23:27 gryffindor wrote:
13 people, probably 10 town 3 scum
if you lynch me - 9 town 3 scum
nightkills - 7 town 3 scum
mislynch - 6 town 3 scum
two days from now will be lylo at 4 town 3 scum

we only have 2 mislynches, even if we are 3/4, due to all these fucking modkills
so, yeah, it would be best if you would, you know, actually vote scum jackal

We really only have 1 scum still hiding. That's you. Hiding in plain sight.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 07 2011 15:10 GMT
#2000
I'm the Easter Bunny.

And no just pressure.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 07 2011 16:33 GMT
#2003
On March 07 2011 15:44 gryffindor wrote:
Do you believe Annul would have let me be the Godfather? I don't.

No I don't. And he was pissed you got it. If you go back to day 1 and read all of Annul's posts it looks like he was pissed about it. Chaoser, GMarshall, Seraph and you all received an FoS from him during the day.
We now know how 2 of those have gone. Plus his claim to idiocy that he'll explain at the end of the game plus his 1 down 4 to go comment. I think he was telling the truth. Wasn't he?

Annul bussed the entire scum team because you're godfather. So you guys had to bus him.
Fucking amazing.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 07 2011 17:42 GMT
#2005
Coming from you I'll take that as a compliment.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 07 2011 19:03 GMT
#2006
Who would claim veteran on day 1 and ask people to claim to them?
On February 23 2011 12:46 gryffindor wrote:
I'm a veteran
claims to me


Scum would.

Who would claim medic openly?
On March 06 2011 22:03 gryffindor wrote:
I am the 3rd medic, by the way, guys
I will be doublestacking on LSB. I don't care if I die, since some of you find me to be scum.

Where is our mad hatter at? Bombs on Barundar and GMarshal would be nice.


Scum would.

What medic would survive such a claim?

Scum would.

Who would continuously quote their own nonsensical posts to prove points that were made at the last lynch?

Scum would.

What Godfather would not hit a confirmed medic in Coagulation?

A crazy one.




If you're town vote gryffindor
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 08 2011 00:31 GMT
#2015
On March 08 2011 09:05 GMarshal wrote:
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On March 08 2011 08:58 deconduo wrote:
I'm pretty sure gryffindor is town, JBright or LD are two people that people seem to have forgotten about somewhat after day 3. I know there are two votes for LD but there isn't any discussion about it really, just that 'he might be GF' While I'd be less suspicious of JBright over the suicide thing, doesn't mean he's cleared at all.

Well JBright is dead, you can feel free to try to kill him again if you please though

For now I'm moving my vote to LD, as from my PM history with chaoser he seemed upset when foolishness almost lynched him. Of course with my luck LD will be a vigi or cop or something.

##unovte
##Vote LunarDestiny

Gryffindor is the GF.
Lynch him.
Re-read all of Annuls posts. He threw all of you guys to the dogs.
You know it. I know it. Gryff knows it.

I can't wait to read your scum log.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 08 2011 00:33 GMT
#2016
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On March 08 2011 09:23 deconduo wrote:
oHn

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On February 23 2011 19:21 ohN wrote:
'Just finished catching up

My thoughts:
Cells are a good idea but GMarshal giving us predetermined groups that he thinks we should work with is pretty scummy. They weren't just like 1-3, 4-6 either, he moved them around to his liking.
Not a good candidate for day1 lynch because I don't feel that that alone is enough to incriminate him but definitely FoS on him.

I dont see how people think
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On February 23 2011 12:40 chaoser wrote:
Ok, so like Gmarshal said, we shouldn't depend on blues this game. Especially since RoL specifically said this game was to punish us for what happened in Salam. At the same thing, I don't think the mafia powers are all THAT powerful. Let them frame away, that's one less death to worry about. PMs are allowed but PLEASE don't just give out crazy info in them (roleclaim, etc.). The point of town is not to have 1 leader controlling everything but small circles that are separated so that if one goes down, the others can still operate. Let's all work together and not let a few players handle all the work (which always seems to happen). This means contributing pleaseee.

is scummy.
Him noting that mafia isn't that powerful is something anybody could point out. Role reversal has huge potential but only if mafia has a confirmed blue. They still have to give up an entire kp to use it so they will not be open to using it without being absolutely sure. Role reversal on a townie does nothing except waste a kp.

I'll probably end up voting for someone who hasn't posted anything useful or that guy who thought annul was inactive(lol).


I thought that post wasn't too scummy either, but he did defend chaoser.


On February 25 2011 10:26 ohN wrote:
Icemac is probably town. Bad d1 lynch target. Looks more like a bad/aggressive player than scum.

I'm still not convinced annul is a good lynch.
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On February 25 2011 07:25 LSB wrote:
Storytime! Why Annul was an easy read in XXXV
1) He mad up stuff and pushed stuff that didn't exist
Check, this game he's pushing GMarshal, saying GMarshal is clear mafia, although there is literally nothing in his accusation
2) Besides responses, he posted nothing else
Look at Annul's posts. How many of his posts deal with things other than Gmarshal or defending himself? I can't find any.

Annul's not pushing GM that hard, he simply pointed out that GM had a bad idea and is calling him out on it. I don't think he ever said "GM is clear mafia." GM DID propose an arguably terrible plan; how come nobody else is calling him out for that? Annul's not looking any more scum than GM here in my eyes.

Barundar's accusation of Jackal is definitely not convincing but it's not utter crap either. It's an interesting point to look back to in the near future. Slight FoS on Jackal imo.

And finally, why is gryff not getting lynched?
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On February 24 2011 15:20 gryffindor wrote:
the HOST actually told me it was a good idea.

Blatant lie here.

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On February 23 2011 17:26 gryffindor wrote:
On February 23 2011 13:19 GMarshal wrote:
for arguments sake going to create analysis cells, use them for informational analysis
(even assuming I were scum there is no way) I could ensure each has a mafia member in it as there isn't enough mafia to go around (I am trying to put at least 1 TL vet in each) as the game progresses and people die we can have new cells form. (also you are free to create your own parallel cells)

1. Coagulation, LSB, gryffindor
2 GMarshal, seRapH, OriginalName
3 Mr. Wiggles, ICanFlyLow, kevconsim
4 Barundar, LastArgument , why
5 darmousseh, Ser Aspi, Kenpachi
6 Gofarman, chaoser, ohN
7 astroorion, CubEdIn, Jackal58
8 Beneather, annul, Conversion
9 icemac, Foolishness, LunarDestiny
10 deconduo, kitaman27, JBright

This is just a suggestion, but I think it is a good one, discuss

This would get us raped by the role reverser, and is really a scummy idea
unvote;
##Vote: GMarshal

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On February 24 2011 22:14 gryffindor wrote:
Cell 1, Cell leader: Coagulation+ Show Spoiler +
1. 5. Jackal58
2. 17. astroorion
3. 1. Coagulation

Cell 2, Cell leader: kitaman27+ Show Spoiler +
4. 19. Gofarman
5. 21. kitaman27
6. 12. icemac

Cell 3, Cell leader: IDC, they're all competant+ Show Spoiler +
7. 6. Kenpachi
8. 2. LSB
9. 26. LunarDestiny

Cell 4, Cell leader: Barundar+ Show Spoiler +
10. 30. LastArgument
11. 3. Barundar
12. 9. gryffindor

Cell 5, Cell leader: deconduo+ Show Spoiler +
13. 16. ohN
14. 28. deconduo
15. 8. annul

Cell 6, Cell leader: Foolishness+ Show Spoiler +
16. 18. Foolishness
17. 27. Ser Aspi
18. 22. kevconsim

Cell 7, Cell leader: Seraph/Mr. Wiggles+ Show Spoiler +
19. 11. Beneather
20. 15. seRapH
21. 24. Mr. Wiggles

Cell 8, Cell leader: OriginalName+ Show Spoiler +
22. 14. JBright
23. 23. ICanFlyLow
24. 13. OriginalName

Cell 9, Cell leader: Chaoser+ Show Spoiler +
25. 7. darmousseh
26. 25. chaoser
27. 20. Conversion MaxwellE

Cell 10, Cell leader: Cubedin+ Show Spoiler +
28. 4. CubEdIn
29. 29. why
30. 10. GMarshal


Now, the "leader" to me is someone who needs to go out of their way to actually collaborate with the other people in their group. If you don't want to use my list of cells, and want to use GMarshal's, whatever. I have a good list I just made right here ready for us to use. Basically, the leaders need to go out of their way to make this work. I am fully confident in these peoples abilities to report what is going on within your cell, and to hold people accountable.

Wait what.

##Vote: gryffindor



Defends annul

On February 26 2011 08:46 ohN wrote:
Woah annul was mafia? o.O
Somehow, I didn't expect that...

I'll put in more analysis once day2 hits, doesn't seem worth it to type up my thoughts at the moment when day2 results could just turn them all sideways.


Doesn't keep promise, never gave more analysis

On February 28 2011 09:35 ohN wrote:
Wow, a lot happened when I was gone.
I still don't understand why we're voting icemac. He doesn't look scummy at all. Like, yeah, he posted about 0 analysis and opinion but that holds true for a lot of other people too. 'Just looks like a scapegoat that mafia are trying to redirect lynches too.

Between LSB and Barundar I doubt either of them are mafia. If one of them is, it's LSB. Can't really say why I think that and there's so many pages that I just read but yeah, that's my take on the situation.

So, who to vote for..
I still think gryff is suspicious, although that might just be because of his weird playstyle. I'd rather have gryff lynched than icemac to be honest. Reading through, Foolishness's post like 2-3 above this has a good point and since I don't think LSB/Barundar/icemac are mafia, there goes my vote.

##Vote: LunarDestiny


Still don't know of LD is scum or not, but considering he's getting modkilled today I dunno. Defends icemac again, but its easy to defend the person who the wagon is on as mafia so you can say 'Hey look I was right he's town'

On March 03 2011 11:43 ohN wrote:
Oh man i was so busy these past few days and i completely forgot i was playing. D:
##Vote: ohN

Sorry, I'll catch up asap.


Except never caught up. More empty promises.

On March 05 2011 17:38 ohN wrote:
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On March 03 2011 12:48 LSB wrote:
Again, I think we should just suggest night 3 actions

Medics, please protect Me and Foolishness.
Vigs, if you want, you should shoot Barundar. There isn't enough on Gmarshal to justify a kill.
DTs, continue checking Priority 3 people

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On March 05 2011 05:22 LSB wrote:
I claim vig. I shot LA last night after reading Foolishness's analysis.

lol
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On March 05 2011 07:16 LSB wrote:
Um... why would I shoot Barundar if another vig was going to do it?

If it weren't for this post, I'd be a bit more hesitant.

##Vote: LSB

If he's red, LA is red, Barundar is green, and there's a huge paper trail left to re-analyze. Honestly sounds like a good lynch.

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On March 05 2011 08:14 GMarshal wrote:
then why the hell didn't you shoot me last night? nice OMGUS by the way I call you out on being the godfather and thus I must be red, I'll offer you a deal though, if you 100% believe me to be red then I'll hang today as long as you agree to hang tomorrow. If you are that sure that I am scum then it should sound like a wonderful deal to you, if you are scum then you'll come up with some brilliant theory why this is a scumplan.

My only condition is if you want to take me up on this the entire town has to agree to hang you tomorrow

Are we still at the point where we can afford to use lynches like this? Bad post?




Again to be fair, the situation was messy. Still another wrong vote...

On March 07 2011 14:24 ohN wrote:
Lol I'm lurking so hardcore this game. =P

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On March 07 2011 12:24 LSB wrote:
Voting analysis
Right now I'm concerned about setting up for lylo. I'd rather not have lylo be filled with people who don't care, so lets take a look at the inactives/scummy players right now.
kevconsim/gryffindor/ohN

Lets look at how they voted
What it means to be on the wrong sides of a lynch
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(day 1)= This means the person did not vote for Annul Day 1
(day 2)= The person did not vote for Seraph Day 3
(day 3)= The person did not vote for Chaoser Day 4

(unvoted)= bandwagoned a wrong side of the lynch


Please note, although posting record is normally unreliable, it is an effective tool to root out lurking mafia.

gryffindor- (unvoted day 1) (day 4)
kevconsim- (unvoted day 3) (unvoted day 4)
ohN- (day 1) (day 3) (day 4)


Check this out, ohN was on the wrong side of the lynchs for all three days evaluated. In addition, he's been lurking a lot.

Lurking mafia caught?

Uh, me not voting annul day1? There was a semi-strong case against him but honestly, I'm not sure anybody really expected him to turn out to be red until he openly admitted it before he died. I voted for gryff for his erratic posting behavior.
Me not voting seraph is completely my fault for being inactive.
Not voting chaoser? I still don't understand wtf happened. Like LSB looked so scummy and then like turned the tables so hard and chaoser turned out to be red, it was like magic.

Oh yeah, and I didn't hop on the icemac wagon. He didn't look scummy at all.

I seriously thought LSB looked scummy as hell but now, I have just have no f-ing idea.
Maybe I'm just too noob for this game.


Pulls the noob card finally when under pressure.


oHN may well be a scum. I think there are only 2 left but if there is a third it's him
Lynch Gryffindor.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 08 2011 00:46 GMT
#2020
On March 08 2011 09:41 GMarshal wrote:
well since coag PMed me such a convincing argument I may as well

##Unvote
##vote gryffindor


I'll just note for the postgame that the LSB, coag circle hasn't actually been confirmed, but the chances of LSB busing 3/5 or 3/6 of his teammates is rather slim, no?

It can't really be confirmed unless one of them die.
I trust both of them implicitly.
If they have both played me it is masterful work.
Chaoser would have to agree. Even though I got him lynched.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 08 2011 03:17 GMT
#2042
On March 08 2011 12:10 GMarshal wrote:
24 hours still remain, right?

Yes sir.

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On March 07 2011 15:44 gryffindor wrote:
Is it possible both you and Jackal are lying? Sure. However, I don't believe that you are capable of sniping blues in the way that they were sniped. I would be, so yeah, that is a point against me, but I would have actually been better than this.

Arrogance.

On March 07 2011 23:24 gryffindor wrote:
I don't even see how I need to respond to your "case", Jackal. I also believe that your voting me for that reason is both a joke and asinine.

If you actually feel like you have a case on me, go ahead and address it..

I did.

On March 07 2011 23:27 gryffindor wrote:
we only have 2 mislynches, even if we are 3/4, due to all these fucking modkills
so, yeah, it would be best if you would, you know, actually vote scum jackal

I am.

On March 08 2011 00:25 gryffindor wrote:
Too bad I'm not going to be lynched
You are quite bad at this game, if you are town.

Yes you are.
And no I'm not.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 08 2011 13:45 GMT
#2049
On March 08 2011 19:33 deconduo wrote:
Read from bottom one up, started with nested quotes.

3/2/11 02:24
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Original Message From gryffindor:
you know what's both interesting and cool?
JBright and Seraph were both on icemac, but not annul, and they are two of the leading wagons. JBright's vote on me is so pitiful, but I don't feel like OMGUSing again

Show nested quote +
Original Message From deconduo:
Signs you need a break:

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[image loading]




Original Message From gryffindor:
Already on top of it!

To: Coagulation [ Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: mafi
Date: 3/1/11 21:23
why are you voting JBright with a nearly RVS-style post on d3? Can you not make a case? Like, are you completely incapable of giving proper reasoning?

Original Message From deconduo:
On a different note, Coag has 110 posts in the game, all but ~3 of them are one liners. I know he has a spammy reputation but I'm pretty sure he contributed a lot more in Orgah.

Original Message From gryffindor:
I am impressed.
That was a very good analysis.

I don't believe he believes LD is dead. There is no way. LD has been posting today.
Why is Foolishness alive still? There are only 2 explanations
1) Mafia feel like Foolishness will be medic protected
2) Foolishness is mafia

Otherwise, they would definitely be killing him. He is much more outspoken than this as a townie, and the fact that he is such a "veteran" is indicative he will actually have a role.

I also expect you have a role, though I'm not asking you to divulge me.


3/2/11 00:11
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Original Message From gryffindor:
I thought southern ireland was

What do you expect made him shift focus away from LD?
Do you feel he was attempting to bus LD.. well, not bus, but create distancing?

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Original Message From deconduo:
Well its safer to assume the worst until a vig claims. It could also be 2 GF, 3 grunts which would add up right too. That would explain the ambiguity on the godfather numbers.

Foolishness had changed his focus to Seraph yesterday over LD. He didn't really explain why but he did ask for a vig shot on seraph and said he would be pushing for a seraph lynch today.

Also Ireland is not part of the UK -_-

Original Message From gryffindor:
I said United Kingdom, didn't I?
Also, I expected there to be 5 mafia left. Why do you believe there are 6?
2 days from now, unless we get mafia, will definitely be LYLO. I said that in the thread already, but that was assuming FIVE, not six.

If there are 6 left, with all the kp/mechanics, I am sort of disappointed in the balance.

You definitely have played with me a few times, and you are underrating yourself, because you should be much more confident in your ability. Sometimes, simply not being lynched as town is better than being a great scumhunter. Look at me, I'm very good at catching scum, but I have a hard time convincing people that I am correct. I also get lynched a lot, regardless of my alignment, because my playstyle is very inefficient compared to the logical and non-gut style that is used by people who are considered "good" in terms of convincing people of things.

I could use weighted language in the style of L to convince people, but I am not going to change myself. I have done it in the past, and I really didn't enjoy it, as me pushing lynches in a mini mafia here lead to a few greens dying. Therefore, even if I consider GMarshal scum, for instance, I'm not going to be pushing him.

Why? Because it's pointless whether or not he is scum if I can't convince a bandwagon to form around him.

Speaking of bandwagons, I wouldn't be surprised if LD/JBright/Seraph were all town.

Speaking of their alignments, why do you believe Foolishness is now voting for Seraph, when he made a big case on LD yesterday, with only a minor FoS on Seraph?

Original Message From deconduo:
Really? I always feel out of the loop and a bit lost as town. In fact I've been trying to play a bit more confident and more aggressive than normal. Strange that it seems to have had the opposite effect. What games did I seem less out of it in? I wouldn't be surprised if I was mafia in all of them.

I'm flattered that you think I'm a good scumhunter but I'm really not I would consider myself a good townie but a bad scumhunter if that makes sense. I've never been lynched as town. I'm usually good at drawing hits and I get killed pretty early on by mafia. But I've also never 'caught' a mafia as it were. If I have a list of 6-7 FoSes usually at most one is mafia. (I know this because whenever I die I play a little game with myself when I ask host for the role list. Most I've gotten right is 2 ) Even with annul I probably would have unvoted him near the end if I wasn't asleep at the time. I was kinda surprised that he was mafia tbh.

As regards the Foolishness thing, what's holding me back somewhat is that I kinda agree with him about Lunar. While I wouldn't have FoSd him initially his response to Foolishness has been less than stellar. I've been considering keeping this quiet for now and simply helping push the lynch on LD. If he flips red then I really doubt Foolishness, as mafia, tried to divert the bandwagon from LSB to LD. If LD flips town then I will definitely pushing them.

However, I have a problem here too. If there was no vig shot last night then we could be at mylo:

3.5 KP : 1 GF, 5 grunts

13 - 6 now
13 - 5 lynch 1, 3 KP left
10 - 5 3 KP used
10 - 4 lynch 1, 2.5 KP left
7 - 4 2.5 KP used
7 - 3 lynch 1, 2 KP left
5 - 3 2 KP used
5 - 2 lynch 1, 1.5 KP left
3 - 2 1.5 KP used
3 - 1 lynch 1, 1 KP left
2 - 1 1 KP used -> lylo.

There are a couple of assumptions in there that could be wrong, and it doesn't take into account vigs, bombers, medic saves, vet hits etc. Even still if we don't hit mafia today it could be really bad.

Sorry for the big wall of stuff. I just needed someone to unload my thoughts onto and you were the most convenient I still haven't forgiven you for calling me English though.

Original Message From gryffindor:
Now that FIRST one is interesting.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was the godfather.

Can we afford to lose a player like you, me, LSB or Foolishness if they are town, though? I mean, we could afford to, but it's not advisable.

We need the active players who are good scumhunters around.

BTW, I don't mean for you to take this the wrong way, but you seem really out of it in comparison to games I've played with you in the past. I definitely would have an excuse for that, if the same was said for me, but I actually feel my play has been rather calm, composed, and collected in comparison to my normal play... regardless of what is going on in my life. So, basically, what I want you to answer is this: Why do you feel so out of the loop?


Original Message From deconduo:
And this was the first one:



Original Message From Foolishness:
Can you give me an explanation of what happened between you and gryffindor in PM land? I know I'm probably making you angry for having to explain again, but if he messed up really bad I can help gather support for you in the thread. Or anyone else you might want to lynch.


3/1/11 19:44
+ Show Spoiler +



Original Message From gryffindor:
I would find that suspicious as fuck, especially if it was from an experienced player, like Foolishness.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From deconduo:
I know this might sound strange but hear me out.

Suppose someone sent you a PM saying that they could 'help you get xxxx, or anyone else you want lynched'

In addition, a short time later they tell you to lay off on LSB, saying if he's scum he will slip up later. 'Just ignore him'

Finally, if you knew they told Barundar to do the same thing (ignore LSB).

Would that be really really suspicious? Or am I reading too much into it.


I really don't think he's mafia

Chaoser's PM's and convos with GMarshall looked pretty town too.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 08 2011 18:16 GMT
#2052
On March 09 2011 02:38 gryffindor wrote:
the fact of the matter is i thought i was dead, tried to post some pro-town things, and even admitted I was green so you wouldn't have to wait on a mod scene.

the fact I still have 7 votes on me is ATROCIOUS town play

All scum admit they're green.
All scum claim atrocious town play.
You are dead.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 08 2011 18:21 GMT
#2054
Threats???
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 08 2011 18:40 GMT
#2059
On March 09 2011 03:29 gryffindor wrote:
Oh, I didn't read your spoiler, Jackal.
I did not see a true case you have made on me... If you would quote it, or address it, I would love to dissect it because it has to be illogical

You don't read anything.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 08 2011 19:01 GMT
#2063
On March 09 2011 03:46 gryffindor wrote:
I read the entire thread, I have yet to see you make a case on anyone, really. You just sheep and bandwagon. You have been voting me for little reason nearly every day, starting day 1, so of course I am skeptical that you have a case.

Present it, or shut up about it.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=8194654

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=8195657


On March 09 2011 03:55 gryffindor wrote:
ive used my vote, that should be enough
i have been on 2 out of 3 scum wagons, and we wouldnt be in the position where 2 mislynches = lylo

i am suspicious of you... why would you not die if you were truly a doctor?
you can bet i would kill you if i was scum, even if it could potentially be a ploy where you are in fact a mad hatter. that would be very cute. it's something i would do. however, even if i thought you were a mad hatter, i would expect your bombs to be placed incorrectly, and would kill you anyways.

i am not going to formally claim. however, considering i sent you "mafia"... would mafia really do that? WIFOM I know, but hey...
id like to see your lists, but you would have to be mentally handicapped to share them with me

Show nested quote +
Original Message From Coagulation:
i dont want to lynch you if your town. i need to organize a mass claim to me
whats your role and how did u use it?


+ Show Spoiler +
I originally replied with "mafia" as a joke, but I feel I should address this in thread
this PM was actually the first signs of life i had... i went to bed thinking i was dead!
i wake back up to watch GSL, and wham... I wasn't sure if I was alive, or if he was trolling me. I was actually pretty upset when I got on with like 5 minutes to lynch (or so i thought) with 7 votes on me. Then I was excited to see I was still alive, but players are still voting me even after it is really obvious that i was being pro-town before i died... whatever, i'm about to just give up, because i don't want to be "modkilled for spamming", even if this is the only way I can avoid being lynched


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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 08 2011 23:16 GMT
#2070
On March 09 2011 07:08 gryffindor wrote:So, I'm weird, and abrasive... get over it
Are you willing to put your neck on the line for our other mislynch after I die, Jackal?

I never said you were abrasive. Your game play is for lack of a better word - weird. Actually I think I called it insane.
And yes if it is for the better good of town I will gladly die.


On March 09 2011 07:10 gryffindor wrote:
and i say our other mislynch because if you all choose to ML me, we have 1 more ML before LYLO, tomorrow, unless Coagulation really is a doctor and not on a scumteam with LSB, and has a successful protection.

I doubt there is a 3rd doctor at all, to be honest, and there is no way I would claim anything but green as scum in a large game. In a mini, I most definitely would, but not in a large. I would be trying to lurk and coast like I did in Orgah... and you know what... I lasted until LYLO where I had an easy win if it wasn't a BASTARD GAME.


So much anger. You really shouldn't play as scum. It must really fuck with your blood pressure.

Sorry man. You are the GF. You got tripped up. By your own goon.
Don't take it personally it's just a game.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 08 2011 23:18 GMT
#2072
On March 09 2011 08:17 gryffindor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 08:16 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 09 2011 07:08 gryffindor wrote:So, I'm weird, and abrasive... get over it
Are you willing to put your neck on the line for our other mislynch after I die, Jackal?

I never said you were abrasive. Your game play is for lack of a better word - weird. Actually I think I called it insane.
And yes if it is for the better good of town I will gladly die.

I hope the town don't hold you to that, actually, because I'm fairly certain you're just a village idiot

If I am it's just in the game. Must be a terrible burden for you sir.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 08 2011 23:32 GMT
#2076
I'm over it.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 08 2011 23:35 GMT
#2077
I'm going bowling. I'll be back probably after day is over.
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