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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 10 2011 10:16 GMT
#15
/In
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 13 2011 21:33 GMT
#35
MOAR PEEPELZ!!!!!!
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 19 2011 00:39 GMT
#124
On February 19 2011 08:41 chaoser wrote:
well, since i done blew ups

/in

And a beautiful boom it was. I kinda thought Coag would be the first to pull the trigger.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 20 2011 23:51 GMT
#167
You ever jump into trees?
Ouch.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 21 2011 15:44 GMT
#180
I doubt it.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 21 2011 21:01 GMT
#198
I don't really need practice posting one liners.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 22 2011 00:26 GMT
#219
Where did I put my bomb????
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 22 2011 00:59 GMT
#221
Hell let's get this thing rolling. It'll just be two less people you sadistic bastards have to mod kill.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 22 2011 00:59 GMT
#222
Wooo Hoooo Page 12 bitches!!!!!!
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 22 2011 15:10 GMT
#246
So tonight or tomorrow night? TL time messes with my head.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 22 2011 15:18 GMT
#249
On February 23 2011 00:11 GMarshal wrote:
it was posted yesterday I think, so it should start today

My computer still says it's today but I'm posting tomorrow!!!!!!!
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 23 2011 15:47 GMT
#454
Good day fellow scum hunters. Sorry for the late start but I bowl on Tuesday night.
There are quite a few people in this game that I have never seen before so it's going to take me a bit to wrap my head around everything everybody has said so far.

My thoughts on cells:
Thoroughly undecided. If their only reason for being is analysis keep it in the thread.

I'm at work right now so I might not be able to post as much as I'd like, but I'll be in here this evening.

gryffindor why on earth would you claim vet? I did it in XXXVI to avoid being lynched but man that was pointless. You're making the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 23 2011 16:56 GMT
#463
I have received a PM from GMarshall as well. Whoopee. I will probably even answer him.
But posting quotes and copies of PMs is a very scummy thing to do. You can make them say anything. Please stop.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 23 2011 17:11 GMT
#467
On February 24 2011 02:00 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 01:56 Jackal58 wrote:
I have received a PM from GMarshall as well. Whoopee. I will probably even answer him.
But posting quotes and copies of PMs is a very scummy thing to do. You can make them say anything. Please stop.


What?

If someone manipulates or changes PMs to say what they want that's a scum caught straight away.

Also as easy for 2 scum or more to edit and post PMs to kill town
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 23 2011 17:18 GMT
#470
On February 24 2011 02:13 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 02:11 Jackal58 wrote:
On February 24 2011 02:00 deconduo wrote:
On February 24 2011 01:56 Jackal58 wrote:
I have received a PM from GMarshall as well. Whoopee. I will probably even answer him.
But posting quotes and copies of PMs is a very scummy thing to do. You can make them say anything. Please stop.


What?

If someone manipulates or changes PMs to say what they want that's a scum caught straight away.

Also as easy for 2 scum or more to edit and post PMs to kill town


While I appreciate the sentiment, I don't think that's an issue right now, even if that did happen, when the townie flipped green we would immediately go after the people who posted the PM

I understand that. But if we get in that habit scum will use it to kill us at endgame. Better not doing it at all.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 23 2011 17:21 GMT
#472
On February 24 2011 02:14 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 01:48 OriginalName wrote:
On February 24 2011 01:34 OriginalName wrote:
He seems to want reads to be isolated when they should be posted in the thread.
This is seems scummier and scummier to me but i will reserve my judgement for now.


-_-


Use of PM to ask questions directed at one specific person isn't "isolation" it's scumhunting. He isn't preventing you from posting both in PMs and on the thread. If anything, if you only reply in PM and not in thread, that's a bit suspicious to the person PMing you. Mass pming everyone to ask questions that aren't blue directed could either be townie trying to scum hunt or a mafia trying REALLLY hard to play infiltration role.

Grfy's vet claim is a pretty good play if he's town i'd say....

1) it gets reactions from people
2) mafia has to be on their toes, is he really vet or is he lying? Do we hit him or let him live?

The only thing that worries me about it is the mass claim part to me. While most veteran players won't and will merely respond with a what?? you so crazy!!, some newbies with blue roles might actually do it and claim (even some vets are stupid enough to blind claim -_-) For that, I'm suspicious and that's why I'm asking pointed questions to him, specifically in thread. I could have done it in PMs too, which i think is what Gmarshal is doing, applying pressure.

If he is a vet scum just have to do a role reversal on him and he's "hit" His claim makes no sense in this set up.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 24 2011 00:14 GMT
#510
On February 24 2011 09:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 08:48 deconduo wrote:
On February 24 2011 08:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On February 24 2011 08:21 deconduo wrote:
Look at the difference between annul's posting early on in Mafia XXXV:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009&currentpage=14#272
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009&currentpage=16#315
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009&currentpage=17#335
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009&currentpage=17#340

Much longer, thought out posts.


The only problem with this logic is that he was mafia that game, and played very aggressively against LSB to get him lynched. So you can't use this as a scum tell, but it does tell us that annul is capable of making long thought out posts when he wants to, so if anything, we should pressure him to do so.

So annul, what's keeping you back from posting anything longer than two lines? You seem to have an opinion on some players, why not write anything substantial?


Oh, yeah. Forgot to check role >.<

Nevermind then.


No, it's still good, because it show us that when he's motivated he will take the time to go through the thread and analyze. That was how he was able to pick on LSB as someone he could make a fake analysis on. So this begs the question of why he hasn't been doing anything in this game. Is he trying to hide? Why? Or does he just not care, because that's not very good for town.

Because Decon missed the best post of all.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7462000
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 24 2011 02:07 GMT
#546
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 24 2011 10:54 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 10:46 icemac wrote:
On February 24 2011 10:44 GMarshal wrote:
On February 24 2011 10:39 icemac wrote:
On February 24 2011 10:34 GMarshal wrote:
On February 24 2011 10:27 gryffindor wrote:
On February 24 2011 10:22 icemac wrote:
Also, I just want to say that these cell things is either big balls move by mafia or the workings of bad play.

Agree. Vote gmarshal with me, he is the one who had the.idea


ok, go for it, please kill one of the most active players, the one who actually proposed a plan that is an alternative to "lets let GFs fuck us over, like in salem",if town is stupid enough to go with your plan and your lynch then I hope they realize their mistake in time to hang you.

Let me be frank, I think you are town, but how absolutely terribly you are playing almost merits a lynch, ffs you can't even seem to point out a major flaw in my plan aside from "it not how this setup is played! I know because I am a mafia god!".

I guess this is your master plan for surviving, make mafia unwilling to hit you by helping them along.

You want to hang me? post a goddamn analysis I can at least rebuff rather than these unsupported accusations that are "GMarshal is scum, because I say so" major, major FoS on anyone who goes along with your bandwagon

Analysis doesn't mean shit Day 1. I don't see why you feel so compelled to pull stuff out of your ass and call it high level analysis.


nice defense, I love the part where you address all my questions, especially the one about why my plan is bad, also I notice you have many in depth contributions, so I guess its justified that you would criticize a poor lurker like me, and allow me to note I never once referred to anything as high level analysis, good way to dodge the questions though! Care to insult me too at this point? I mean im sure a few well aimed offensive remarks would add depth to your brilliant deconstruction of why my plan is scummy.

Also post analysis is always good, at any point of the game from day one to lylo, so please take your scummy ideas and aggressive attacks to some more easily intimidated player

Alright, let's just say you are being productive, what conclusions are you actually arriving at?

Sure
1.) This is a set up that is going to emphasize using PMs to root out mafia
2.) due to the set up and conditions any plan like the salem blue circle is going to be doomed
3.) The best way I see to address this is to make small town circles and use them to gather information
4.) there should be no claiming save rare circumstances,not even in PM and not even to "confirmed" townies
5.) We need to make sure lurkers post as they often cost us the game, hence PM circles can pressure them into posting, also directing votes at them can push them into activity
6.) Gryffindor is most likely just a townie that is playing an awful game of mafia, the fact that he suggests a plan exactly like the one that cost us the game in salem is cause for alarm
7.) annul is most likely not scum either, just another stupid townie, if he were mafia someone would tell him to cut the shit out
8.) DTs are almost worthless
9.) Jackal may be mafia he is not playing his usual agressive, tunneling game, and is almost as subdued as in MiniMafia V

10.) you still failed to address my questions




I don't tunnel.

Ok I do tunnel.

But I don't do it until I see somebody I really think is scum.
At that point I don't let go.

Right now I have vague feelings of unease towards just about everybody.

And I'm not aggressive. I'm persistent.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 24 2011 02:13 GMT
#549
On February 24 2011 11:09 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 11:05 icemac wrote:
GMarshal wrote:
ok, go for it, please kill one of the most active players, the one who actually proposed a plan that is an alternative to "lets let GFs fuck us over, like in salem",if town is stupid enough to go with your plan and your lynch then I hope they realize their mistake in time to hang you.

Let me be frank, I think you are town, but how absolutely terribly you are playing almost merits a lynch, ffs you can't even seem to point out a major flaw in my plan aside from "it not how this setup is played! I know because I am a mafia god!".

I guess this is your master plan for surviving, make mafia unwilling to hit you by helping them along.

You want to hang me? post a goddamn analysis I can at least rebuff rather than these unsupported accusations that are "GMarshal is scum, because I say so" major, major FoS on anyone who goes along with your bandwagon


No, I'm not saying we hang you. What I'm saying is we keep the analysis for later where we actually have substantial data.


We can get plenty of data Day 1

Jackal posted our entire scum team in MMVII right before the Night post which ended the game. No lynch D1 by the way.

Votes are a huuuuuge scum tell when analyzed in the right way.

That's one of the things that gave you guys away.
So far there isn't much of anything that makes me want to point the FoS in any particular direction. But rest assured there will be.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 24 2011 02:18 GMT
#551
then what the heck do you propose we do for the next 24 hours if not analysis?

Drink beer and play pinochle.


Icemac is on my "scrutinize every word" list.
So are the following:
Annul
GMarshall
Gryfindor
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