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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 20:59 GMT
#461
On February 06 2011 05:58 GMarshal wrote:
I dont believe that deviating from the plan is a good idea right now, I'm going to go with lynching Chaoser and if he flips town then lynching Darmousseh, sorry Dr.H but as you said earlier its a bad idea to deviate from the plan

Do what you want but I'm going to vote for what I believe is the best move regardless.
RIP Aaliyah
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 05 2011 21:53 GMT
#462
Remember lynch occurs [unparsable timestamp format] tonight
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
February 05 2011 21:54 GMT
#463
On February 06 2011 05:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 05:58 GMarshal wrote:
I dont believe that deviating from the plan is a good idea right now, I'm going to go with lynching Chaoser and if he flips town then lynching Darmousseh, sorry Dr.H but as you said earlier its a bad idea to deviate from the plan

Do what you want but I'm going to vote for what I believe is the best move regardless.

I find you so suspicious. You even tell me that we should stick to the plan and now you don't want to stick to the plan AFTER we get chaoser's name when he claims to be a medic.

That's just contradicting yourself. Even Gmarshall says the same as me. It's just bad to not go with the plan which we all agreed upon. Chaoser voted for it and he should've objected against darmousseh's plan.

You even first said that it's unlikely that darmousseh is mafia and now you want to lynch him?!?!?!?

Sorry but you're mafia or just really stupid as town contradicting yourself whole time.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 21:55 GMT
#464
On February 06 2011 06:54 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 05:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 06 2011 05:58 GMarshal wrote:
I dont believe that deviating from the plan is a good idea right now, I'm going to go with lynching Chaoser and if he flips town then lynching Darmousseh, sorry Dr.H but as you said earlier its a bad idea to deviate from the plan

Do what you want but I'm going to vote for what I believe is the best move regardless.

I find you so suspicious. You even tell me that we should stick to the plan and now you don't want to stick to the plan AFTER we get chaoser's name when he claims to be a medic.

That's just contradicting yourself. Even Gmarshall says the same as me. It's just bad to not go with the plan which we all agreed upon. Chaoser voted for it and he should've objected against darmousseh's plan.

You even first said that it's unlikely that darmousseh is mafia and now you want to lynch him?!?!?!?

Sorry but you're mafia or just really stupid as town contradicting yourself whole time.


lol
RIP Aaliyah
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#465
On February 06 2011 06:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 06:54 shannn wrote:
On February 06 2011 05:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 06 2011 05:58 GMarshal wrote:
I dont believe that deviating from the plan is a good idea right now, I'm going to go with lynching Chaoser and if he flips town then lynching Darmousseh, sorry Dr.H but as you said earlier its a bad idea to deviate from the plan

Do what you want but I'm going to vote for what I believe is the best move regardless.

I find you so suspicious. You even tell me that we should stick to the plan and now you don't want to stick to the plan AFTER we get chaoser's name when he claims to be a medic.

That's just contradicting yourself. Even Gmarshall says the same as me. It's just bad to not go with the plan which we all agreed upon. Chaoser voted for it and he should've objected against darmousseh's plan.

You even first said that it's unlikely that darmousseh is mafia and now you want to lynch him?!?!?!?

Sorry but you're mafia or just really stupid as town contradicting yourself whole time.


lol



Lol, you are really a bad mafia DrH if you are mafia. Townies would never be this desperate to deviate from a plan. My guess is that you are going all-in with putting yourself on the line in order to save chaoser or node.

Everyone, i've been going under the assumption that DrH was green for almost the entire game giving him pms and talking strategy in order to find the best method to determine the mafia, releaving my plans before I post in the thread sometimes, but in the end I think he just was bussing his entire team to set himself up as the last mafia in order to try to win. If he can convince you to never kill him or the mafia (node or chaoser) then he has won as mafia.

Stay with the original plan and we win town

If chaoser is red, i recommend lynching DrH next.

Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#466
I hope all the conversation revolving around my death/claim will help =D
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 05 2011 22:18 GMT
#467
If Dr. H was mafia with me, there's no reason for him to want me alive, this whole game he's wanted me dead, he's been the most vocal about me being mafia. For him to make a switch if both of us were mafia is absurd.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 05 2011 22:19 GMT
#468
On February 06 2011 07:12 chaoser wrote:
I hope all the conversation revolving around my death/claim will help =D



Yeah, if you are the medic chaoser, i'm very sorry you got chosen, but then that means we know node is mafia. We will probably lynch DrH afterwards.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 05 2011 22:20 GMT
#469
On February 06 2011 07:18 chaoser wrote:
If Dr. H was mafia with me, there's no reason for him to want me alive, this whole game he's wanted me dead, he's been the most vocal about me being mafia. For him to make a switch if both of us were mafia is absurd.


That's a great point. His plan actually sets it up to save node by killing me first followed by killing you. That gives him and node the greatest chance of surviving.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 05 2011 22:29 GMT
#470
On February 06 2011 07:20 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 07:18 chaoser wrote:
If Dr. H was mafia with me, there's no reason for him to want me alive, this whole game he's wanted me dead, he's been the most vocal about me being mafia. For him to make a switch if both of us were mafia is absurd.


That's a great point. His plan actually sets it up to save node by killing me first followed by killing you. That gives him and node the greatest chance of surviving.


Or you are mafia and this is your game winning plan, lynch chaoser and node and assure your victory. Of course I'm pretty sure that neither you nor Node are mafia, which means chaoser is, but if he flips green...
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 05 2011 22:41 GMT
#471
On February 06 2011 07:29 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 07:20 darmousseh wrote:
On February 06 2011 07:18 chaoser wrote:
If Dr. H was mafia with me, there's no reason for him to want me alive, this whole game he's wanted me dead, he's been the most vocal about me being mafia. For him to make a switch if both of us were mafia is absurd.


That's a great point. His plan actually sets it up to save node by killing me first followed by killing you. That gives him and node the greatest chance of surviving.


Or you are mafia and this is your game winning plan, lynch chaoser and node and assure your victory. Of course I'm pretty sure that neither you nor Node are mafia, which means chaoser is, but if he flips green...


I wanna take a bet on this lolol
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
February 05 2011 22:49 GMT
#472
On February 06 2011 07:29 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 07:20 darmousseh wrote:
On February 06 2011 07:18 chaoser wrote:
If Dr. H was mafia with me, there's no reason for him to want me alive, this whole game he's wanted me dead, he's been the most vocal about me being mafia. For him to make a switch if both of us were mafia is absurd.


That's a great point. His plan actually sets it up to save node by killing me first followed by killing you. That gives him and node the greatest chance of surviving.


Or you are mafia and this is your game winning plan, lynch chaoser and node and assure your victory. Of course I'm pretty sure that neither you nor Node are mafia, which means chaoser is, but if he flips green...

We all agree that Node is town which is still a risk to do so. Going by this we should lynch darmousseh first if chaoser were to be town. Darmousseh would be stupid to come up with this plan because we all know that Node is the most guaranteed person to be town. So darmousseh that pm'ed drH should probably know this as well and drH as well which makes me very suspicious of drH for knowing everything which is the most worse possible thing as a townie to do. To pm someone who is still unsure of being town.

We should just stick to the plan and go from there. Why change now. It's only smart from mafia to confuse townies. Kenpachi already switched and DrH himself as well only for the sole purpose of saving a medic who wouldn't be of any purpose in the night. If anyone can assure me that saving a medic will result in NO kills in night then sure I'll agree to save chaoser but that's only an option that mafia can decide to.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
February 05 2011 23:05 GMT
#473
List of votes so far.

chaoser:
Gmarshal
shannn
node
darmousseh

Kenpachi:
Kenpachi

darmousseh:
DrH

Notice something abnormal?
Chaoser hasn't voted yet. If he were town he'd try to help town by actually voting on himself as the first person by saying he's medic but willing to help town which he'll probably do after my post.
It's as if he wants to be saved from getting lynched.

I'm now even more convinced that chaoser is mafia.

Pandain and Chaoser still hasn't voted yet.
This could result in a tie and no lynch if both Kenpachi, Pandain and Chaoser votes on darmousseh which makes it the best case scenario for town to get a tie.

Warning to all fellow townies to absolutely not make a tie as this would not get us anywhere. In either way either we need to get a lynch on either chaoser or darmousseh. I'm going with chaoser because I'm sticking to the plan.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
February 05 2011 23:06 GMT
#474
Oh and because of this I think Kenpachi isn't mafia anymore and that it's probably Chaoser and DrH.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
February 05 2011 23:08 GMT
#475
On February 06 2011 08:05 shannn wrote:
List of votes so far.

chaoser:
Gmarshal
shannn
node
darmousseh

Kenpachi:
Kenpachi

darmousseh:
DrH

Notice something abnormal?
Chaoser hasn't voted yet. If he were town he'd try to help town by actually voting on himself as the first person by saying he's medic but willing to help town which he'll probably do after my post.
It's as if he wants to be saved from getting lynched.

I'm now even more convinced that chaoser is mafia.

Pandain and Chaoser still hasn't voted yet.
This could result in a tie and no lynch if both Kenpachi, Pandain and Chaoser votes on darmousseh which makes it the best case scenario for town to get a tie.

Warning to all fellow townies to absolutely not make a tie as this would not get us anywhere. In either way either we need to get a lynch on either chaoser or darmousseh. I'm going with chaoser because I'm sticking to the plan.

EBWOP:
first person by saying he's medic by willing to help town.

It would be best case for mafia to get a tie.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 23:10 GMT
#476
On February 06 2011 07:49 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 07:29 GMarshal wrote:
On February 06 2011 07:20 darmousseh wrote:
On February 06 2011 07:18 chaoser wrote:
If Dr. H was mafia with me, there's no reason for him to want me alive, this whole game he's wanted me dead, he's been the most vocal about me being mafia. For him to make a switch if both of us were mafia is absurd.


That's a great point. His plan actually sets it up to save node by killing me first followed by killing you. That gives him and node the greatest chance of surviving.


Or you are mafia and this is your game winning plan, lynch chaoser and node and assure your victory. Of course I'm pretty sure that neither you nor Node are mafia, which means chaoser is, but if he flips green...

We all agree that Node is town which is still a risk to do so. Going by this we should lynch darmousseh first if chaoser were to be town. Darmousseh would be stupid to come up with this plan because we all know that Node is the most guaranteed person to be town. So darmousseh that pm'ed drH should probably know this as well and drH as well which makes me very suspicious of drH for knowing everything which is the most worse possible thing as a townie to do. To pm someone who is still unsure of being town.

We should just stick to the plan and go from there. Why change now. It's only smart from mafia to confuse townies. Kenpachi already switched and DrH himself as well only for the sole purpose of saving a medic who wouldn't be of any purpose in the night. If anyone can assure me that saving a medic will result in NO kills in night then sure I'll agree to save chaoser but that's only an option that mafia can decide to.


I switched because I don't think chaoser is mafia. I won't vote for someone who I think isn't mafia so I'm not voting for him.

I'm not going to convince you guys to go along with me, it's obvious chaoser is still going to get lynched but I won't vote for someone who I think is town based on principle. It's ridiculous to say I'm scum because I changed my mind. I voted for Chaoser yesterday, I tried to convince everyone he is scum, and based on new information and evidence I've changed my mind. Same reason I changed my mind about CubEdIn. First impressions are often wrong.

I think Darmousseh pointed out pandain (even went as far as to accuse him in PM to me) thinking they were gonna kill him that night which would clear him. Pandain survived but Chaoser didn't take the obvious bait. If he was a scum fake medic he would have lied and said "Oh, yes I protected Pandain". If there is a counterclaim the mafia could then motion to call out the other as a faker (not too hard to do if you're a skilled manipulator) or claim there are probably two medics.

Darmousseh accused Pandain at a very very late time, it was clear the intention was not to get a lynch bandwagon started. I think that trust was then used to manipulate the puzzle stage. When Chaoser turned up that is a perfect opportunity to abuse town because there was already a lot of distrust about him.

If Chaoser turns up red then that'll ease my mind quite a bit but it'll be very difficult to pinpoint his teammate. I'm not 100% sure (obviously) about Chaoser but I feel more confident that either darmousseh or shann is mafia than him. So I will not vote for Chaoser.

Here's what does strike me as odd about Chaoser and I just realized this a minute ago. If he is the medic why would he say "no one counterclaim?" It's pretty obvious there would be only 1 medic in a game like this as medics will never > mafia KP for balance issues. But he said "no counterclaims". However saying that as mafia doesn't really make sense either I guess. I just found that kinda strange.

I don't think Mafia will kill Chaoser in the night, even if he is the medic. I'll tell you this though. If I die tonight and Darmousseh/Shann flip red down the road, kill the other one please.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 23:12 GMT
#477
On February 06 2011 07:18 chaoser wrote:
If Dr. H was mafia with me, there's no reason for him to want me alive, this whole game he's wanted me dead, he's been the most vocal about me being mafia. For him to make a switch if both of us were mafia is absurd.

no it's absolutely stupid to think that we are a scumteam even considering how much I love buses

i would never ever double bus especially if there is heat on me. i already helped get jackal dead on day 1 when it could have easily been gmarshal or shann. then i tried to get you killed on day 2? people still want me dead, that's too risky.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 23:14 GMT
#478
On February 06 2011 07:12 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 06:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 06 2011 06:54 shannn wrote:
On February 06 2011 05:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 06 2011 05:58 GMarshal wrote:
I dont believe that deviating from the plan is a good idea right now, I'm going to go with lynching Chaoser and if he flips town then lynching Darmousseh, sorry Dr.H but as you said earlier its a bad idea to deviate from the plan

Do what you want but I'm going to vote for what I believe is the best move regardless.

I find you so suspicious. You even tell me that we should stick to the plan and now you don't want to stick to the plan AFTER we get chaoser's name when he claims to be a medic.

That's just contradicting yourself. Even Gmarshall says the same as me. It's just bad to not go with the plan which we all agreed upon. Chaoser voted for it and he should've objected against darmousseh's plan.

You even first said that it's unlikely that darmousseh is mafia and now you want to lynch him?!?!?!?

Sorry but you're mafia or just really stupid as town contradicting yourself whole time.


lol



Lol, you are really a bad mafia DrH if you are mafia. Townies would never be this desperate to deviate from a plan. My guess is that you are going all-in with putting yourself on the line in order to save chaoser or node.

Everyone, i've been going under the assumption that DrH was green for almost the entire game giving him pms and talking strategy in order to find the best method to determine the mafia, releaving my plans before I post in the thread sometimes, but in the end I think he just was bussing his entire team to set himself up as the last mafia in order to try to win. If he can convince you to never kill him or the mafia (node or chaoser) then he has won as mafia.

Stay with the original plan and we win town

If chaoser is red, i recommend lynching DrH next.



This is really bad. I'm not desperate to deviate from the plan. I'm just not voting for Chaoser. That's it. And why does Node have to be the mafia, you assume it can't be darmousseh? That's fucking stupid.

Chaoser is dying anyway, I'm not trying to save him. Let me say this over and over, I'm just voting for the person I suspect most. There is no "desperate attempt" to save chaoser because he's just gonna get lynched anyway. I won't on principle vote with the bandwagon if I think the bandwagon is wrong. When Chaoser flips blue we'll end this game by lynching you and Darmousseh.
RIP Aaliyah
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 05 2011 23:16 GMT
#479
On February 06 2011 08:05 shannn wrote:
Notice something abnormal?
Chaoser hasn't voted yet. If he were town he'd try to help town by actually voting on himself as the first person by saying he's medic but willing to help town which he'll probably do after my post.
It's as if he wants to be saved from getting lynched.


What the hell? This is just the worst kind of WIFOM. While I agree that we should stick with the plan, are you seriously suggestion that the best reaction of an innocent medic is to vote for themselves? That's kind of ridiculous.
whole lies with a half smile
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 23:17 GMT
#480
On February 06 2011 08:16 Node wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 08:05 shannn wrote:
Notice something abnormal?
Chaoser hasn't voted yet. If he were town he'd try to help town by actually voting on himself as the first person by saying he's medic but willing to help town which he'll probably do after my post.
It's as if he wants to be saved from getting lynched.


What the hell? This is just the worst kind of WIFOM. While I agree that we should stick with the plan, are you seriously suggestion that the best reaction of an innocent medic is to vote for themselves? That's kind of ridiculous.

i don't think shann has played this game before that's why he is saying dumb things like that
RIP Aaliyah
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