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Ok time to get started. We could potentially have a lot of weird/crazy mechanics in play so we need to be on the look out for anything. As was stated before (by why), there been numerous different factions in his previous games: + Show Spoiler + Inismór Mafia 1: Role List: IRA: Godfather: Diana Abonba Grunts: Andres/ATPGuy English: Godfather: GH Grunts: Ituralde/Sasaki Kojiro Pro Town: Donney: Seamus Davey: FactionHeir Mairead: Reenk Roink Neutral: Padraic: AVSM Heilyn: 'khaan Artair: El Diablo ------- Grunts kill once per night. Once both were dead, godfather could kill once per night. Godfather showed up as innocent until they had performed a kill. Donney was the detective. Davey was the gossip person, leaving clues in the writeups. Later gained the ability to either protect/investigate/roleblock one person per night. Mairead was the doctor, but also a non kill target for Padraic. Later gained the ability to roleblock the person s/he protected if they were anti-town. Padraic: The generic Serial Killer, didn't have to kill Mairead though. Heilyn: Welsh boxer, survive one night kill. Only had to survive. Artair: Late blooming Serial Killer. + Show Spoiler + Inismór Mafia 2: Mafia members: A Very Super Market Askthepizzaguy Csargo spL1tp3r50naL1ty TinCow Australian Cult Members: Methos YLC atheotes Kiwi Cult Member: atheotes Scottish killers: Thermal Mercury Warman Doctors: Dr. Yaseikhaan Lord Winter the intern Renata the Emergency Room specialist. Joooray the Pyschiatrist French Kidnapper: Sigurd Arsonist: Reenk Roink Original carer of Wee Sean: Sasaki Kojiro Town Drunk: GeneralHankerchief Priest: Centurion1 Queen: Chaotix Special Townie: Diamondeye Detective: Scienter + Show Spoiler + Riftwar Mafia: Role Allocation: I gathered the list of players, randomised the list via random.org 10 times, then simply matched that to my role list. First Group: Mafia Faction, Midkemia, The Nighthawks. Group of Assassins, using crossbows and swords, wearing black clothing, poison rings and sometimes teeth, with hawk medallions. Yasaikhaan Renata Centurion1 Second Group: Mafia Faction, Midkemia, Murmandamus and followers. atheotes: Murmandamus. Panthanian priest disguised as a Moredhel, objective to bring his 'goddess', Alma-Lodaka, back to life. Crazed Rabbit: Murad, unable to speak, as he cut his tongue out to prove his loyalty. A1_Unit: Gorath, secretly traitor, had to find Arutha to bring public knowledge of the second group to light. Secret Roles: Askthepizzaguy: Banath, God of Trickery, the hopeless quest and patron of thieves. Had semi-disguise as The Blue Rider, who is later known as Nakor. Chaotix: Sarig, dead god of magic. death is yonder: Alma-Lodaka, Valheru, creator of the Panthanians. scottishranger: Nalar, trapped god of evil. Able to force people to do almost anything, they showed as confused or with a strange look on the faces in the write up. Pro-town, Midkemia Greyblades: Pug (Keep orphan, turned master magician) Sigurd: Tomas (Pug's best friend, half Valheru, due to his armour) Beskar: Macros (The Black Sorcerer) Sasaki Kojiro: Algaranna (Elven Queen) Sprig: Calin (Elven Warleader, son of the Queen) Csargo: Tathar (Eldest Spellweaver) Elite Ferret: Arutha ConDoin, Prince of Krondor Major Robert Dump: Martin ConDoin, Duke of Crydee White_Eyes:D: Lyam ConDoin, King of the Kingdom of the Isles rhawn: Jimmy the Hand, later Squire James then Duke James of Krondor Joooray: Laurie, ex Tsurani slave, bard. Third Group: Mafia Faction, Kelewan, The Minwanabi House A Very Super Market: Lord Desio of the Minwanabi Khazaar: Lord Tasaio of the Minwanabi Shlin28: Teani, secretly traitor, agent of the Anasati Beefy187: Shimizu, Captain of the Guard Fourth Group: Kelewan, The Acoma House Zain: Lady Mara of the Acoma CountArach: Strike Leader Papewaio of the Acoma (Yes this is where our moderator papewaio gets his username from) Karo: Force Commander Keyoke, now Advisor for War, of the Acoma Fifth Group: Kelewan, The Anasati House johnhughthom: Tecuma, Lord of the Anasati GeneralHankerchief: Chumaka, First Advisor of the Anasati Sixth Group: Kelewan, The Assembley of Magicians Subotan: Shimone Captain Blackadder: Hochopepa Seventh Group: Kelewan, The Emperor and his bodyguards spltpersonality: Emperor Ichindar Double A: Magician Bodyguard A completely inoffensive name: Magician Bodyguard Eighth Group:Delayed Mafia Faction, Kelewan, Thuril Confederation LittleGrizzly Andres Reenk Roink Ninth Group: Kelewan, delayed pro-town group, Grey Warriors Iskander 3.1: Lujan KukriKhan: Saric Tratorix/Captain C: Dakhati Independants: YLC: Delayed Serial Killer, Cho-ja Lord Winter: The Upright Man It is not a stretch to assume there is going to be multiple factions of differing alignments in this game. However this is still speculation. The information we know for a fact is as follows: -2 Mafia Goons, 1 Godfather. Initially 1KP per goon, if both goons die then GF gets 2 KP. -No fool/idiot roles. -Each person is given a name/personality. These are taken from mafia players in the totalwar forums. I feel like we might be able to use the names like a weak clue system, but it will require a lot of research. Thoughts on people's votes/play so far: -fluffywhatever: Looks like an import from TotalWar? RNGs a vote on Misder as first post of the day. I don't like doing it but it seems to be common practice on the TW forums. -aidnai: Another RNG vote. Agrees with Node that coag is playing normally. -Coag/bum/ace: failsauce -why: I don't think I've seen him before, but so far I like his play. He did a bit of research into pever's previous games and called GCQ out on scummy play. Looks promising. -believer: edits, defends GCQ -darmousseh: I found him quite scummy initially in XXXVI, but that was more due to suspicious voting patterns than anything else, (sheeping scum  ) Votes Zerroth with decent reasoning. Seems good for now. Only problem I would have is that he is a bit lacking on activity, but its early yet. -gryffindor: Another possible import from TWI think? Claims Node defended coag where I don't think there was anything. Seems to be an experienced player that likes playing a lot of mindgames: + Show Spoiler + On February 11 2011 16:17 gryffindor wrote: I see Coagulation is spazzing out. Why are you spamming the thread? I have a town read already, but I will not disclose on who, and a casual suspicion. I will have to wait to see if I can pick up on any associative tells from them in the future. I might be reading too much into the situation. I do not want to tip them off to tighten up their game, though, as I want to see them lynched. I am not really for Day 1 policy lynches if the person is town. Does anyone have any meta on Coagulation? I don't want to lose a player to a mislynch, though I do not know his alignment. Can anyone help out on this? Thanks! On February 11 2011 18:08 gryffindor wrote: unvote My vote was more for pressure than anything. It didn't really gain the reaction that I wanted. @Misder, why are you voting who you are voting? On February 11 2011 21:42 gryffindor wrote: I don't like your OMGUS, and I don't like your response to me, you're my top scumspect. Misder, can you give me a reference to your best town and best scum game? IGMEOY misder: OMGUS votes fluffy. Maybe an overreaction, but seems like a weird move because he's not inexperienced. Node: Tries to stop the coag clusterfuck by pointing out that coag is playing normally. Tries to get the town back on track to proper discussion. Solid town play imo. This post stands out: + Show Spoiler + On February 11 2011 17:42 Node wrote: I don't follow what you said. You think my plan is to let Coagulation die (even though I'm apparently defending him), and then when we realize that he's not scum (which, as far as I know, we can't), come out and say "I told you so". Do I have it right? Today's Lynch: As for today's lynch, saying 'lynch coag cos hes bad lol 111!!' is a stupid idea. Zerroth is a much better candidate by all the reasons given by people voting for coag. He is known to lurk and not contribute from several other games. Vote: Zerroth | ||
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On February 11 2011 23:30 pevergreen wrote: Just a side note, in the first Inishmore game, you actually took the role list from a fake ending. There was no 'Artair' role, the 'Heilyn' role was the mafia mastermind, otherwise it is the same. Whops Thanks for clarifying. | ||
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-Try to get a read on you as I haven't played with you before. -Watching for any scumslips -Watching your analysis. Your way of playing may catch mafia off guard or you might get a good read on them. | ||
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On February 12 2011 04:08 GGQ wrote: Yeah, because this is the only game I've ever played. You're free to look at some of my other games if you want. There doesn't seem to be any sort of plan or anything. Lots of people being pretty useless. I already know who I'd kill if I was maf... gonna be a boring night phase =/ unvote: Coagulation vote: Zerroth -Looking back at your history you haven't really been active in the last couple of games you've played -Feel free to suggest a plan yourself instead of complaining/moaning about it. -You are being wishy washy with your voting. First you vote coag because all the cool people were doing it. Then you got called out on it and you switch to zerroth because, once again, other people are voting him so its 'safe' FOS | ||
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On February 12 2011 08:20 darmousseh wrote: For those of you who aren't the bandwagoning sheep type or don't like killing inactives on day 1 (killing inactives first seems to be a common theme in tl mafia games) I found a solution. http://www.random.org/lists/ Simply copy the list of players, hit randomize and take the first result and vote for that person. *sigh* I had high hopes for you until this post  | ||
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On February 12 2011 08:52 darmousseh wrote: Haha, it's just a random thing I found. A lot of people were mentioning rng so I thought I'd show a little website I know of. I would not recommend voting randomly. On a random note, my university is the one that runs random.org + Show Spoiler + I'm not turning into BB I promise | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On February 11 2011 10:00 LunarDestiny wrote: Ok. I got a fucked up pm. AND my character happens to be gay. WTF. On February 11 2011 10:07 LunarDestiny wrote: Everyone, first find your character here. forums.totalwar.org/vb I found mine pretty easily. Also will name claiming be any help in this game? On February 11 2011 13:01 LunarDestiny wrote: Coag is actually very good at scum hunting. He played ton of games. He just don't like to write long post to convince others. On February 11 2011 13:13 LunarDestiny wrote: Put foot in mouth. I herd you liek me, so I put me into me to make meme. On February 11 2011 13:28 LunarDestiny wrote: There are also no ‘joker’ or ‘actor’ roles. No one will obtain victory by being lynched. Just want to restate this because I will be force to do a couple of things very silly. My character is fucking stupid. On February 12 2011 05:17 LunarDestiny wrote: I will be busy throughout the first day. I'll catchup on monday (day2?). I see people are exerting huge pressure on one person. To me, Zerroth is playing the lurking/inactive style like the last game. It'll be great if it will make him more active but it is like mafia can slip by unnoticed if it stays like this. Also placing a vote to avoid modkill. Vote: LunarGotNoDestiny He made no particular effort to change the lynch which leads me to believe that he didn't know he was linked to zerroth. Considering it took a measly 5 votes to lynch zerroth it doesn't look like mafia (or any other party) made a significant attempt to redirect the lynch. Another point to notice is that there was only 16 real votes placed out of 30, and these were spread out over 11 candidates. This is shockingly bad play. We need to be a lot more united to make any headway in this game, especially considering that there are probably several ~3 person factions with alternative victory conditions. If we allow scum/3rd party to lead the lynch wherever they want we are totally screwed. I know this was day one and there isn't a lot to go on, but we seriously need to pick it up a bit. | ||
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On February 12 2011 21:28 johnhughthom wrote: Vote: Zerroth Just woke up and don't have time to read what happened when I was in bed before work. Votes without giving a reason near the deadline to ensure zerroth gets lynched. On February 11 2011 14:26 GGQ wrote: Wow looks like other people got really fun roles. Mine sucks. Could at least have given me a vigi shot or something to make up for it. Oh well. Vote: Coagulation On February 12 2011 04:08 GGQ wrote: Yeah, because this is the only game I've ever played. You're free to look at some of my other games if you want. There doesn't seem to be any sort of plan or anything. Lots of people being pretty useless. I already know who I'd kill if I was maf... gonna be a boring night phase =/ unvote: Coagulation vote: Zerroth On February 12 2011 18:08 GGQ wrote: Let's not be too hasty. We have to be careful with our lynches, since that's our only killing power. Or at least, it's my only killing power QQ And since apparently people get mad at me no matter whom I vote unvote Zerroth vote GGQ So much scummy posting here I don't know where to start. Votes for coag when its easy, switches to zerroth when its easy, switches to himself while saying we should be careful with our lynch. | ||
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On February 13 2011 02:46 LunarDestiny wrote: WTF. The time the voting ended was so unexpected... This shit is crazy. Pevergreen, so what am I allowed to talk about? Hey, assuming you are allowed, did you know you were linked to zerroth? If yes why didn't you try and save him? | ||
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-Only 2KP went through -Two of the teamliquid vets were targeted. -Ace was trying to kidnap/kill Kagemusha when he himself was killed. I'd be interested in finding out who that was, feel free to PM me if you wish. So we have someone with what looks like a scummy ability dead, which is good. I thought ace's play was off and thats probably why. Whether or not he was mafia or 3rd party I don't know. If I had to guess, I'd say he was a roleblocker though. I'm not too sure how the DTs will work in this game, but I would advise them to be wary of forming a circle just yet. Considering the likelihood of separate factions, even someone checked as town might not be completely safe. However if you have a guilty, try and form a case against them. Do an analysis and start pushing. Medics should be looking at veteran players as they are being targetted. I'm going to look over Ace's posts again to see if I can glean anything from them, | ||
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On February 14 2011 06:41 bumatlarge wrote: Ace uses the word "kidnap" aidnai, while you say you were hit. Were you informed of being hit? We'll need to look into "Kagemusha" but I don't think aidnai would risk lying that he was actually him. Having a role that reverses the kill unto the attacker seems a bit unfair, but we don't know your penalty so whatever. Ace is already dead, so it's in our favor if he's red. Killing aidnai wouldn't prove his role, since we can already assume he is kagemusha. Looks like GF can die before grunts... Anyway, regardless of exactly what happened between ace and aidnai, we can't resolve it with a lynch (ace is dead aidnai would just pop kagemusha). I think we should set it aside unless Ace and aidnai can provide anything else. As for a lynch, I'm very suspicious of deconduo and this post right after the night. First part is obvious stuff plus asking for a PM. Last part is blatant blue advice AFTER night instead of before. I'll ignore this because there has been so much nonsense I could pick at in this thread. The middle part interests me, as I'm not certain why Ace's ability had to be scummy. Now that aidnai claims against ace it does, but before it I couldn't jump to that conclusion. I'd like for deconduo to elaborate on that reasoning. -To do with my personality -Blue advice: Couldn't have come to those conclusions before the night obviously. Also surely giving blue advice during the day is better? -The flavour text implies kage was taken against his will, so I associated it with a non-town ability. I can't think of any pro-town ability that involves kidnapping. | ||
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On February 14 2011 08:23 Ace wrote: I wasn't Scum. Don't you think it would be really amazing for me to die Night 1 as Scum by either Vigi/SK hit or aidnai's supposed power? If I was Scum why of all people would I want to kill him? Why target aidnai? | ||
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On February 14 2011 08:33 Ace wrote: Like I said, I attempted to kidnap him because of something kitaman told me. No where does it show that aidnai was actually physical harmed in any way. Also someone else hit me that had no effect from aidnai. So his "power" is a lie or he's just confused. Me kidnapping him wasn't the reason I died. I was actually hit - not him. Reading for the win :D Reading over again, his power activates on death. Considering he's not dead it means it hasn't activated yet. | ||
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On February 14 2011 08:41 Ace wrote: exactly my point. Now read what aidnai said: Maybe he just got excited and jumped to conclusions thinking he was the cause of your death. So I couldn't have activated his power. He seems overly confident in thinking this is true doesn't he? | ||
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On February 14 2011 08:41 Ace wrote: exactly my point. Now read what aidnai said: So I couldn't have activated his power. He seems overly confident in thinking this is true doesn't he? EBWOP Maybe he just got excited and jumped to conclusions thinking he was the cause of your death. | ||
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Scummy voting, scummy play, inactivity. I don't agree with the misder bandwagon and would encourage people to switch. | ||
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On February 15 2011 05:24 Coagulation wrote: we should look at brownbear and bumatlarge i have a feeling if the mafia was picked by tl.net member than they are top suspects at this point. they have also both been posting bad. You do know bum was killed n1 yeah? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On February 11 2011 14:26 GGQ wrote: Wow looks like other people got really fun roles. Mine sucks. Could at least have given me a vigi shot or something to make up for it. Oh well. Vote: Coagulation Jumps on the coagulation bandwagon without giving any reason. Yeah, great response. On February 12 2011 04:08 GGQ wrote: Yeah, because this is the only game I've ever played. You're free to look at some of my other games if you want. There doesn't seem to be any sort of plan or anything. Lots of people being pretty useless. I already know who I'd kill if I was maf... gonna be a boring night phase =/ unvote: Coagulation vote: Zerroth Calls people useless after not contributing anything himself. Switches his vote from coag because he's under pressure to explain said vote. Still doesn't say why he voted coag in the first place. Doesn't say why he's changing to zerroth. At this point zerroth was a 'safe' lynch for scum to switch to. On February 12 2011 09:39 GGQ wrote: There should be some red text in your role pm telling you how you are supposed to act. Can we lynch a mafia already? Useless post On February 12 2011 18:08 GGQ wrote: Let's not be too hasty. We have to be careful with our lynches, since that's our only killing power. Or at least, it's my only killing power QQ And since apparently people get mad at me no matter whom I vote unvote Zerroth vote GGQ Changes his vote AGAIN. Once again doesn't say why he voted for zerroth. Does another scummy thing in voting for himself. Is apathetic. On February 12 2011 23:14 GGQ wrote: If there's a gunsmith role or something, give me a gun, I wanna kill someone :D. Calls for a gun... Either a scummy post if serious or a useless one if not. On February 13 2011 08:27 GGQ wrote: It's GGQ, not GCQ. Not sure where that started. Corrected, sorry. However this doesn't contribute in any way/ On February 14 2011 10:45 GGQ wrote: vote GGQ sorry, busy today More uselessness On February 15 2011 01:55 GGQ wrote: It's GGQ. I'm not mafia. It'd be more fun if I was, but I'm not. Ok, I take your word for it tldr: As I said yesterday, not one helpful or non-scummy post. Scummy voting with no explanation or reasoning given for them. I would be very surprised if he is not mafia or his personality dictates he behaves as scummy as possible. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Spam On February 12 2011 06:29 ilovejonn wrote: Or maybe his role is to be inactive. But either way I'll be voting Zerroth for the time being until he posts. ##Vote: Zerroth Gives a reason at least. On February 12 2011 10:46 ilovejonn wrote: It ends 4 AM EST for me.. which I will be sleep. Spam On February 13 2011 07:49 ilovejonn wrote: Wow, I kind of surprise only need 5 vote to lynch somebody. >__> Also, is this the second day now? Or night time? I'm not sure about the phases, but I also don't want abstain from voteing. Spam On February 13 2011 07:54 ilovejonn wrote: Okay, thanks you. Spam On February 13 2011 12:48 ilovejonn wrote: I have feeling some of the active posters are going to be night kill. >< Spam On February 13 2011 13:20 ilovejonn wrote: Oh right.. forgot about that. Well at least that counters the inactiveness. Spam On February 14 2011 17:04 ilovejonn wrote: I hope it wasn't a pro-town vig role who targetted kitaman27, what the heck. Spam On February 14 2011 21:00 ilovejonn wrote: holy crap, 5 people modkilled. zzzzz Spam. Also while this is purely off my own experiences, posts like these are usually made by scum trying too hard to be town. tldr: Not even one substantial post. Nothing particularly scummy however, apart from the last post. Unless he steps it up he would certainly be on my lynch list. | ||
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On February 15 2011 08:39 Coagulation wrote: GGQ would be a good lynch however i think you should wait till day to do post any analysis. you dont want to give mafia any more information to work with when picking targets. Yeah, the short days are fcking me up. | ||
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Summary of all of thefluffyone93's posts: + Show Spoiler + On February 11 2011 13:17 thefluffyone93 wrote: Day one Random votes Commence! Vote: Misder and now I go to bed. As I said before, not a fan of random votes. It seems standard in .org though On February 12 2011 09:08 thefluffyone93 wrote: I wonder who is roleplaying as ATPG... Also, doesn't Romanic tend to post the tally of votes a lot? Somewhat useful information on personalities. On February 12 2011 09:19 thefluffyone93 wrote: Looking at BrownBear's posts, the constant use of internet memes reminds me of someone in particular..... And GGQ being Beskar does fit I guess, but what does that mean for the town? Same as above. On February 12 2011 12:41 thefluffyone93 wrote: OK. Unvote; Vote: aidnai OMGUS Meh, borderline spam On February 13 2011 14:47 thefluffyone93 wrote: ZOMGUS. What are you forced to do, I wonder? Spam On February 14 2011 02:48 thefluffyone93 wrote: Vote: Misder and round and round we go.... OMGUS + Spam On February 15 2011 06:33 thefluffyone93 wrote: Holy shit 5 mod kills? GEEZUS. Spam. Same opinion as with ilovejohn. tldr: Actually has contributed a tiny miniscule amount, but considering he's one of the few that can give us a huge amount of information about the characters he should be doing much much more. Like ilovejohn I want to see some proper contributions please. | ||
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On February 15 2011 09:01 beefy187 wrote: He could be role playing some spammy player. But even he is, it doesn't clear him one bit. Whats your opinion on fluffy, is he playing like he usually does? Same question for fluffy about beefy. | ||
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On February 14 2011 22:47 beefy187 wrote: Well losing Project Psycho (Kommodus) was a big blow. He probably had a investigation ability as Kommodus had a nickname "Holmes" on the Org. We're already down to 19 so I'll share my thoughts so far. iirc we are using the God Father system, or something very close to it. Which means the host picks one God Father who chooses two grunts. Three men killed so far has all been teamliquid players. As mafias are more likely to kill people who they are comfortable killing, I think the mafias are teamliquid players as well. If I were God Father, I would like to use two men I can definitely count on so I would'nt use any outsiders. So the mafia can't be me or fluffy. If the mafias are in this to win, they would've hired vets. On the Org, controlling the discussion is a double edged sword, as the town may call for your head if you make the wrong call, but on this place you lot seem to go after those who doesn't contribute. I'll be looking at people who constantly posts and discusses, but does nothing controversial. This interests me a lot as its the complete opposite of how its usually done here. (Host picks mafia team and then the team elect a godfather) Seeing as the way its written in the setup is ambiguous; Pever can you elaborate on whether or not you are using this system? I don't expect to be told, but theres no harm in asking  Either way this can lead to a lot of WIFOM, but its good to keep in mind.On February 15 2011 09:01 beefy187 wrote: He could be role playing some spammy player. But even he is, it doesn't clear him one bit. Who would you consider to be spammy players? On February 15 2011 09:30 beefy187 wrote: Defs not. His normally much more spammy. I enjoy his spam posts, but in terms of contribution its the best thus far by fluffy. As for me, I don't usually do OMGUS votes and I talk less. If this is his best level of contribution >.< Fluffy, I can forgive you somewhat for being a new player, but it would be nice if you started voicing thoughts and opinions at the very least. | ||
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On February 15 2011 11:08 kitaman27 wrote: Thanks all for the birthday wishes! I was really confused until I remembered you are pever lol. Happy Birthday Pever. | ||
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I'm going to look over your suspects and do an analysis on them too gryff. | ||
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Jailer was one role that didn't even cross my mind, good catch. That changes my opinion on Ace somewhat. I had pretty much written him off as anti-town. Of today's kills, BrownBear and Node agree with trend of last night. It is very obvious (too obvious?) that veteran TL players are being targeted. The kill on why intrigues me however. why's posts: + Show Spoiler + On February 11 2011 15:04 why wrote: I've read a couple of pever's game and it looks like there are tons of different alignments in play. For example, here is the role list for the Revenge of Irishmore which resulted in a cult victory (I think, there were multiple endings): + Show Spoiler + Mafia members: A Very Super Market Askthepizzaguy Csargo spL1tp3r50naL1ty TinCow Australian Cult Members: Methos YLC atheotes Kiwi Cult Member: atheotes Scottish killers: Thermal Mercury Warman Doctors: Dr. Yaseikhaan Lord Winter the intern Renata the Emergency Room specialist. Joooray the Pyschiatrist French Kidnapper: Sigurd Arsonist: Reenk Roink Original carer of Wee Sean: Sasaki Kojiro Town Drunk: GeneralHankerchief Priest: Centurion1 Queen: Chaotix Special Townie: Diamondeye Detective: Scienter Pretty sure that is 2 cults and a mafia team, and that was when there were 5 mafia members... I think we have to be ready for anything. Anyway, back to the actual game. I don't know how you usually play, coag, but you are reacting really really defensively to votes that were little more than jokes that popped up because people were bored. Not sure if you usually react this way or there's some history involved, but its definitely setting off alarm bells. And GGQ, I too would like at least some explanation of your vote on coag. Everyone else has at least a sentence explaining their vote. I already stated my approval of this early post by him. He did a bit of research and called out GGQ on his vote. As his first post in the game, this was significantly better than pretty much everyone else's. On February 12 2011 11:19 why wrote: Does a mass name-claim make sense? I don't think it is against the rules as far as I can tell, and there are some advantages (namely totalwar folks might be able to get a sense of factions/red text and then explain it to the rest of us. Also, assuming mafia are TL members they won't know whether to fake claim or not, and won't be able to come up with a good fake claim regardless). On the other hand, it could be a waste of time since most people won't get anything from it and it'll just take up a bunch of thread space and distract from scumhunting (although at the moment there doesn't seem to be much talking anyway). Also, if one of the totalwar people is on one of the mafia/cult teams then they might be able to pick out some blue roles. Totalwar people, how helpful do you think it would be to know people's names? As an example of how it could help, in the (2) games I have played with him, GGQ has posted at about this frequency, but has generally been a helpful, insightful townie. Here he has voted multiple times with no reason and hasn't posted anything more than a couple lines. My guess is that he has some red text that is telling him to play that way. This is supported by: Not that this means he is town, just that things we normally associate with scum tells might just be red text that players can't admit to. Another great post, points out differences in GGQ's play, expresses his thoughts on a mass nameclaim. Does suggest that differences in playstyle could be due to the roles/names. On February 12 2011 12:22 why wrote: Looking at insanious's post history, I believe the last post he's had on TL was his /in post for this game. It's quite possible he doesn't even know that Orgah mafia has started, especially as there was no confirm period. With regards to pressuring inactives, I would hesitate to pressure people who haven't even posted yet. These people might not have even read their role pms yet and will be modkilled anyway. It is basically a RNG. We can look for people who post closer to the deadline and FoS them, but I think mafia that have read their pm are much more likely to have a vote or at least a post in by this point. I'll Vote: Misder because all he has done is posted once or twice and voted. Good post, explains his vote On February 12 2011 12:24 why wrote: Oh, hi Misder. Any thoughts on the game so far? Anyone seem particularly scummy? Generic post. On February 12 2011 12:50 why wrote: So I ask you who you find scummy, and you basically scroll up the page, find an analysis you can piggyback on, and say that you agree with it. It feels to me like you were just looking for the first possibly scummy person you could find so that you could say you were scum hunting. I don't know if you are just lazy or you haven't been looking for scum (because it's a low activity day and you didn't think you would need analysis to survive), but I'm keeping my vote on you for now. Pressures Misder, good reasons. On February 14 2011 16:06 why wrote: Actually, this makes perfect sense. Here pever talks about the night kill: This indicates that the description of events will change based on other events that happen to the killer/killed. I think I am buying that Ace tried to kidnap you (not necessarily pro-town role) and that Ace was hit by mafia (unless someone has a hit to claim that hasn't yet). This is something that I completely missed. The killers have been writing the flavour text for the kills! We need to start looking a bit closer at them On February 14 2011 16:56 why wrote: What? The first point (only kill targets showed up in the night post) is not supported by anything. Maybe "Only people interacting with people killed show up in the night post" would be accurate, but there is no evidence to support the first point. Presumably if a medic were to protect someone who would have died, they would show up in the night post, but they wouldn't have had to be targeted by a NK to get a mention necessarily. You are correct that either version is possible, it just seems more likely to me that there were just 2 KP and Ace and Bumatlarge got hit. Another thing I haven't really thought about that ties in with the above post. Why did Aidnai show up in the first day post? On February 14 2011 17:02 why wrote: Yeah, so Ace's story was correct at least. Means he wasn't mafia as there are only 2 KP that we've seen so far, both coming from mafia (there aren't any other claimed hits I don't think). Ace could still be 3rd-party though. Comes to the conclusion that Ace couldn't be mafia. Not too sure do I agree with this yet. I think he forgot that we have no evidence to show that people will be informed if they are hit/saved and just assumed this is the case. On February 14 2011 17:52 why wrote: Pever has had some roles that allowed day killing in the past. I think he mentioned an arsonist role before where the arsonist could "prime" one person a night and then PM pever any time during the day to immediately kill all people who had been previously "primed". In other words, probably a 3rd-party killer is my guess. Also, I need to go to sleep and so I need to vote for someone. Not much has gone on today so it has been hard to analyze. I will say that I doubt Misder is mafia at this point because he doesn't really seem to care about dying at this point (and only mafia will really care about dying right now, since we are nowhere near LYLO and as a townie you can still talk and everything) and there hasn't been any sort of counter-wagon. So, I'm going to vote for gryffindor because I find his tunneling of node on very inconclusive evidence to be scummy. Vote: gryffindor Would be nice if he gave a few more details on why he thinks gryffindor is scum. In conclusion, I think why has been quietly contributing quite a lot, even though he doesn't have a whole lot of posts. In fact, he's the sort of person I would target as mafia (as opposed to the big names who would be likely protected) Apart from this, gryffindor and to a lesser extent, misder would have motive to target him. I don't know why a pro-town vig would kill him as he has done nothing scummy as far as I can see, and there are much better (inactive/scummy) targets. Similarly I don't see a pro-town vig killing Node or BB. So, I think we have 3 anti-town KP, 2 scum + something else. Possibly an SK or maybe a faction that have a joint KP between them. | ||
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On February 15 2011 22:33 Believer wrote: How is it that whenever I speak up I am met with a wall of silence, please share your opinions of my discoveries. I am new to this game and might be interpreting (spelling?) things wrong, I am still a vote for the benefit of us all. :') Bad time, most US people are asleep and EU people are at work/college. | ||
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On February 13 2011 22:22 pevergreen wrote: The Spartan was sleeping soundly, dreaming of how his master plan would come together, how he could finally once again, pull a spartan, when his door was kicked in, waking him from the sweet dreams he was having. The intruder quickly pounced on the surprised Bumatlarge, who was unable to react quickly enough to stop the intruder from rudely shoving a banana down his throat. The intruder held it there for a few minutes, until Bumatlarge's struggles finally ceased. Kagemusha was on his way home. He'd had a hectic day, been under fire for a bit. To be honest with himself, he was kind of glad for the relaxing walk home. It had been a stressful few months, with strong roles here and having victory snatched from his grasp when pevergreen pushed for his lynch. "There was no way he knew that I was the dark one." Kage thought, "It was just pure luck. I should have won that game. I'm never working with pever again." Lost in his thought, Kagemusha didn't stop in time, and bumped into another man. "I'm sorry, I didn't see you there." said Kage. "Its quite alright, my friend. I say, I picked up this sack earlier today at the markets, and its simply beautiful. Here, take a look." As Kage got up on his tiptoes to see inside, TinCow pushed him, and Kage fell in. Quickly tying up the sack, Ace started to run away in a silly fashion. It added style to the whole thing, in his mind. As he rounded the last corner before leaving town, a shadowy figure dropped from the roof in front of him. However, Ace did not see. He let out a long breath as the area began to lighten, the moon appearing through a break in the clouds. It would be his last. Ace’s brain barely had time to register the glint of moonlight on steel as the blade whistled through the air, neatly passing through his throat. He coughed and gurgled, falling back on the ground, blood staining the pavement as it flowed outward from the wound. The killer watched silently, half in shadow, until all sound and movement ceased, before slipping out of the area, leaving the corpse of Ace behind. On February 14 2011 16:47 pevergreen wrote: The town was in a foul mood. Cries about the "Curse of Kagemusha" were heard, and to some they fell on deaf ears, others listened and thought, but most simply heard and ignored. kitaman was browsing the web, taking a break from participating in the conversation. He just got an email from his best friend in the whole world. It was a link to a cool new website. When the page finally loaded, kitaman dropped his laptop. He had started convulsing. His hands and legs contorted and began to flail around. He dropped from his seat and foam came out of his mouth. Unfortunately for him, no one managed to help him in time. As they carried the body of kitaman out, a face in the crowd saw it. "pevergreen died?" Multiple people nodded in confirmation. The man's eyes narrowed. "This is all I have to say:" he said, On February 15 2011 21:11 pevergreen wrote: Gregoshi was ruminating in his room that night, wondering who the mafia could possibly be. He was so deep in thought, however, he failed to notice that someone opened the door and casually walked in. The only thing BrownBear noticed was a hand reaching over his shoulder with a napkin in its hand, and the sweet smell of chloroform. BrownBear collapsed without a sound. The assailant dragged BrownBear to the kitchen, where BrownBear was promptly stuffed into the sausage grinder. The assailant chuckled evilly, and set to work on the now ground-up BrownBear. Come morning, the forum cook entered the kitchen and noticed a platter of tantalizing burgers with a sign that read "Bear Burgers: Serve bare!" The man threw some coins onto the table with a clatter as he got up and put on his coat. He stumbled to the door of the bar, the waitress giving him a harsh glare as he noisily exited. Once on the street, he was the subject of even more derision, the target of angry stares and barely concealed laughter as he staggered down the street catching himself on walls and light posts to stop from falling. Askthepizzaguy didn’t care though, the deaths of some of his closest friends had hit him hard, and he’d spent the last few days trying to drown his sorrow. It didn’t seem to be working, and it also didn’t do anything to get rid of the fear he felt inside. He’d had heard some of the deaths were murders, and that scared him. Turning sideways into an alleyway he used as a shortcut, Node wondered when the town had gotten so dangerous. Lost in thought, he at first didn’t notice the black shape that silently followed him down the narrow passageway. Looking back on a sudden impulse, he saw the silhouette, menacing, blocking the light from the street he had just left. His eyes widened, all he’d heard about the murders coming back to him in a sudden rush, turning and trying to run as quickly as he could in his inebriated state. He didn’t get far though, managing only three steps before falling forward onto the wet pavement, the impact causing him to violently retch as well. I felt bad for Node, as I stood over his prone form, almost feeling pity for the wretch beneath me. “But hey, a job’s a job,” I thought to myself, smiling as I pulled out my knife, “He must’ve done something wrong for someone to want him dead, and at least this way he won’t choke to death on his own vomit”. It didn’t take long for him to die once the knife pierced his heart, and wiping it off afterwards on his coat, I thought he looked very peaceful and relaxed. If only we could all go like that. As the town gathered, the day of voting began. Before discussion could properly begin, Andres was planning his drinking for the night. Having gotten a draft plan from one of his drinking buddies, he was just putting the final touches to a night out, when he got an email from a friend. It contained a picture so vile to him that his body started to convulse. Within moments why had died. As people looked at his screen, they tried to figure out how a picture of a bottle of Heineken could kill a man. I've split the posts as best I can. Now all we need to do is compare the writing style to see who did what. | ||
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It was pointed out in one of why's posts. I spotted it when I was doing the analysis of him. It really well hidden in the OP which is how I missed it the first time and I'm sure others have too. + Show Spoiler + Any kills in this game are to be written by those who perform them. If nothing is given, or changes need to be made for in game purposes (defended, role blocked etc) the host will modify or create the kill with no regard to how good it may have been before he touched it. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On February 13 2011 06:41 SiNiquity wrote: Ironically, my character profile states I don't have much time for mafia anymore LOL so true. But anyway, I just caught up with the thread and there's a shit ton of Kita bashing for no apparent reason. You guys are dumb if you think he's mafia. Uses his personality as an excuse for inactivity Defends kita without giving any explanationOn February 13 2011 06:46 SiNiquity wrote: No shit, because when I post I'm right. So no, I don't make a ton of haphazard posts saying "Well what about this itty bitty thing over here that someone said that makes me tingle in funny places? And it's not my SPIDEY SENSEEEE" because let's face it, I don't have a need to crap all over the thread like the rest of you. Meh. Arrogant, agressive post that doesn't contribute anything. On February 13 2011 07:59 SiNiquity wrote: Yes mum. Sorry mum. -_- Worthless On February 14 2011 05:24 SiNiquity wrote: I'd post a rolleyes smiley but even a thousand wouldn't cut it so: http://i54.tinypic.com/28k6no3.gif Spam. Interesting connection with fluffy as pointed out by believer. Wouldn't mind seeing that actual post. On February 14 2011 05:32 SiNiquity wrote: Rings a bell, but it hard to say. The mind remembers remembers change the most, and another victory is just more same ol' same ol'. But that's the past and this is the present. Bumatlarge (The Spartan) is killed. Ace (Tin Cow) kidnaps ??? (Kagemusha) Ace (Tin Cow) is killed. Seems characteristic of a Spartan. What that actually means idk.. Kagemusha (can't link directly to user profiles if you don't have an account): http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?133113-Clean-Feature-5-and-6 but digging up the history of a forum poster is going to be impossible. How about you new guys lending a hand here? Also I agree with the obvious - Bum and Ace dead leaves TL members as the obvious people to blame. First somewhat decent post finally. However, it doesn't actually contribute much either, just states whats already known really with a link to Kage's profile. On February 14 2011 11:42 SiNiquity wrote: Hmm. also on top of what you already said about misder his only post from the start of the day: Lies. Sort of somewhat implies some vague suspicion against GGQ without actually committing to anything. Calls out fluffy on not being around. On February 14 2011 11:49 SiNiquity wrote: Vote: Misder Votes with no explanation/reasoning Spam Another person who has been pretty much useless the entire game. No good contributions from him at all. | ||
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Just fyi, you are not allowed to reveal anything from the red text in your PM. If that is the case for that comment at the I would advise you to edit it out and beg forgiveness from pever. | ||
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On February 16 2011 00:55 GGQ wrote: Man, doesn't seem like town is doing good at all http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=186653¤tpage=28#558 Please read over this. Unless you start doing something town really quick, I am going to be pushing for you as today's lynch. I really doubt you can do anything to convince me otherwise, but I'm happy to give you a chance. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On February 11 2011 13:49 aidnai wrote: Rofl...I see Kenpachi and Pandain are not playing, so I hate to say it Coag but you're our only viable day 1 lynch. I see that there are only 3 scum, and there's no abstaining. We're almost certainly gonna be lynching a lot of townies this game. KP will be our best indicator of lynch success it looks like, though if we kill the GF we may not realize immediately. I'm most interested in getting to know the new guys pevergreen brought over, so let's get down to business: Vote: ELITECubWarman8 for being new and having such a long fricking name. Random vote. I don't approve but it doesn't mean anything really. On February 11 2011 14:34 aidnai wrote: Oh WTF zerroth is playing? he got modkilled I thought he was doing a 1 game ban right now. Hmm... I guess that will start after this game then. And, I suck Kita? I'm guessing this is just your character talking... + Show Spoiler + @Ace: I agree 27/3 is pretty stacked. Since the OP specifically says Mafia is 2 grunts + Godfather, I'm guessing there's a third party. Possibly mafia can recruit, possibly there are "townies" that win with scum (can't remember the term for that). Or as you say, OP scum roles. I'm tempted to browse pevergreen's games at the other site since I have a feeling he's run this exact setup before... No time for that at the moment unfortunately. Nothing too important here but not spam. Kind of wishy washy comment at the end. 'I would help contribute but I don't have time. I want to appear good though so I'll say it.' On February 11 2011 15:37 aidnai wrote: First off, don't edit. It's a cardinal sin, or perhaps a mortal sin (anyone know which is worse?). Second, before you start defending Coag, I'd go look at some of his prior games. His play style is hard to read at best, and harmful to town at worst... Why, thanks for doing that extra research. I'll tentatively assume we're dealing with cult(s) for now. Did you happen to see what kind of KP or abilities the cults had? Sorry for not looking myself, but I'm trying to develop a function/algorithim for a spreadsheet for work at the moment... Again, nothing significant here that I can see but it isn't spam. Speculation on the setup is always good I suppose when theres not much else to talk about. That little 'I would contribute but I don't have time' comment pops up again. I really don't like it. On February 11 2011 17:44 aidnai wrote: So let me get this straight... You ask for meta on Coag because he's acting strange, Node gives it to you, then all the sudden Node is scum for buddying up to Coag who is all of a sudden likely town? Damn, you're either light years ahead of me...or...That doesn't really make sense does it? FOS on gryffindor. I won't change my vote yet, until more people have posted and I have reads on more people. But your logic for voting Node is suspect to say the least. Node is correct about Coag by the way, whether or not either of them is scum. Coag has done nothing unusual for his own 'meta' so far this game. Yeah, I have to agree with him here. That was a scummy move by gryffindor and he was right to point it out. On February 12 2011 07:25 aidnai wrote: Gryffindor. You'll notice towns on TL.net like to throw around FOSs at the most active players. Remember everyone, zerroth is not the only inactive at present. People with no posts since day start: - Siniquity - Zerroth - Project Psycho* - Johnhughthom* - ELITEcubwarman8* - Insanious - Beefy187* - me_viet* * indicates people with no posts in this thread at all, meaning they may not have access yet. If access is not granted soon, I hope Pevergreen would consider extending day some more. Of the people without asterisks, all of them (insanious, siniquity, and zerroth) have had issues with inactivity in the past, and are all equally eligible for that sort of policy lynch. Actually I don't remember any mod actions against siniquity (I know zerroth has a modkill/ban and insanious is sitting on a warning). But I don't remember siniquity being particularly active either. IN ANY CASE, the sheeping on zerroth is DT worthy, as Ace pointed out. Also, I'd like to say this post is scummy. 1) generic advice to town (our job is scumhunting, recommendations etc) 2) posting a vote count (easy way to contribute without contributing) 3) 3rd paragraph is just weird. The point of putting votes on lurkers is to force them to talk...why are you trying to coax some contribution out of zerroth by being buddy-buddy? Overall this feels like a forced post, aka, scum trying to figure out something town-like to post. Pushes inactives, which is good (but doesn't seem to have worked ) DTs on the people who voted for zerroth is not a bad idea as mafia do like an easy lynch. However I disagree with all his points on SR's post.1)Considering the number of new players, this was needed imo. 2)Vote counts are actually important if the mod isn't doing them regularly. Look how many votes it has take to lynch each day: 5 and 4.... 3)We want inactives to contribute. One way to do that is to threaten with being lynched. If being nice works too, why not? Aidnai seems to think the two are mutually exclusive for some reason. I feel this was a small bit forced. On February 12 2011 07:49 aidnai wrote: I agree with you (gryffindor and deconduo) about GGQ, but ilovejonn falls in the same category. So directing DT checks at the people voting zerroth is really a great option I believe. Yep. On February 12 2011 09:26 aidnai wrote: Rofl I have no idea what you guys are talking about... this is like culture clash forum mafia style! Welcome to TL mafia, by the way, glad you could join. Irrelevant/spammish On February 12 2011 12:54 aidnai wrote: Rofl dude... Well, I'm hoping that you just got excited because you misread, or perhaps it's just your role... you got ants in your pants or something? Also, coag, I want to point out to you why Ace's directions to DT's were good. A pressure vote on zerroth that was started rather trivially was rapidly turning into a legit bandwagon. Now, is zerroth a scum? Who knows, he hasn't posted yet. Only the mafia know if he's one of them or not. Now the point is, if zerroth is town (or just non-mafia), then he represents a 'safe' lynch target for scum to vote on. He won't fight back, there won't be repercussions when he's lynched because he was not pro-town etc. So, as a townie, should you defend zerroth and try to stop the lynch? If you do, you might end up defending a mafia, a third party, or a lurker that gets modkilled, and you'll look suspicious yourself later. So do you just let zerroth die? that lets mafia pick off a random townie, leave no associations to follow up on, and no day 1 discussion about the lynch. So the correct answer in this situation is, check the sheep who voted zerroth to get an easy 'safe' lynch. Now the supposedly safe lynch for scum puts them at risk of being DT'ed. If DT's RNG their target, they have a 3/29 chance of hitting mafia. If there is even 1 scum on a list of 5 people voting for zerroth, the odds of finding scum are almost double. And if there's 2 scum, now that list is looking pretty unsafe for scum, don't you think? Good post. Good logic. I approve. On February 12 2011 13:13 aidnai wrote: This is rich Kita, really rich... Let's summarize your case, if that's possible. 1) Jumps on the lynch Coag day 1 bandwagon with an obvious joke post that is followed by me later saying 'Coag is hard to read, don't waste your time defending him' and 'Coag is within his normal meta'. 2) gives generic town advice actually saying DT's should check the zerroth vote list is pretty specific, but unfortunately I can't take credit for the idea :/ 3) FoSing and pressuring people is a bad thing? I should be vote hopping instead? lol... You know what, this really feels like an Annul vs LSB situation from, uh, what mafia was hmm.. it's slipped my mind. You remember, when Annul was godfather and tunneled LSB to his day one lynch with the expectation of not being held accountable later. Good response to kita I think. On February 12 2011 14:04 aidnai wrote: How many times are you going selectively crop my quotes so that you can misconstrue what I said? In the whole quote, I did address your 'analysis', ridiculous as it was. You did it in your original analysis as well, looks like you're grasping at straws. Not to mention your bizarre behaviour in the thread earlier, lashing out randomly, I really believe you must be acting out a very strange role, a role that is forcing you to target me for some reason. See, both of these quotes are actually the same post, yet you pick one part to show me hopping on Coag's bandwagon and another part to show me "pushing" a lynch on elitecubwarman8. That's so far fetched...it's impossible for you to be this bad without any ulterior motives... So tell us Kitaman, are you scum, or is it a pro-town role that is making you behave this way? More defense. Doesn't do anything scummy as far as I can see. On February 12 2011 16:54 aidnai wrote: Now that Kitaman has proven his insanity, you two mind taking your votes off me? Good question. I don't know why people would have listened to kita in the first place tbh. On February 13 2011 07:28 aidnai wrote: Are you joking, or did you miss kita's posts somehow? Only reason there hasn't been more kita bashing is that everyone knows he's not really as crazy as he's been acting, there must be something else going on. Thinking he's mafia isn't dumb either, Annul pulled a similar move to get LSB lynched day 1 in a recent game. If you can think of a reason for a normally intelligent townie to hardcore tunnel another townie without any evidence or proof, please share because I've been racking my brain and come up with nothing. BTW, I understand there's some arguments for not being active at night or whatever, but come day I hope there's a bit more discussion -_- Yep I didn't like that post of sinq's either. On February 14 2011 05:43 aidnai wrote: Wassup ACE?!?! I'm going to full on role claim here, minus the red text of course. - Since my power was activated, I was being targeted as a kill, not a roleblock or anything else - Since Ace was targeting me for the kill and he was affected by the curse which affects mafia, Ace was in fact mafia My job here is done, if they kill me for realz they still can't shut me up lol I highly recommend that any advice, opinions etc given by Ace from here on out be ignored. Last thing to say, we'll hopefully know after tonight's KP if Ace was a GF or a grunt. I think probably a grunt was sent to kill, but Ace as GF is smart from mafia perspective so I dunno... Now we get to the juicy part. As he hasn't been opposed its pretty safe to assume he is Kage. The .org players agree that his roleclaim makes sense, so if something is faked its probably subtle. Claims Ace must have tried to kill him because his power activated but we know this to be wrong now. Jumping to conclusions? On February 14 2011 05:57 aidnai wrote: I think you made an incorrect assumption about the GF not being killable Bum. Check it out That means Ace could have been GF, and it means you can throw out the scenario where Ace was killed for targeting the GF. Not important I think. On February 14 2011 15:53 aidnai wrote: Hmm... I did not receive a PM that my power activated, and I do realize my role PM says that "whenever you are killed at night" is when my power activates. BUT It also says I'm a veteran type which I assume means I have night life, so what seems more likely: my power activates after I actually die (2nd hit) or that it was just not perfectly worded? I kinda think it's more likely that my power activates when I'm hit the first time... Additionally, and I really think this is important, IF Ace was trying to kidnap me, why the hell would that show up in the day post? even more so considering it failed!? I'm certain there are plenty of roles and night actions going on, none of them showed up...except for kills. Now Ace is trying to use his psychological intimidation to shut me up or bully me around as well.. In Insane mafia, Ace used an 'inconsistency' in a role claim alongside psychological intimidation like this to not only beat a sure lynch, but get the blue lynched as well... if you're interested, check it out here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=161289¤tpage=172#3422 and keep reading the next 20 pages or so lol... Now, that said, I'm considering the possibility that Ace is innocent and I just made a complete ass of myself. Along those lines, I've PMed pevergreen about what kind of notification I can expect if/when my power activates. I guess I'll just post the same questions here in the thread: If he answers via PM, i'll post that. He realises he might be wrong about his ability. On February 14 2011 16:48 aidnai wrote: Yes, so consider, Ace wrote a nice story where he tied me up in a gunny sack and then fed me to a lion but then pevergreen changes the story to fit the fact that Ace ended up dying. I really don't understand how this game mechanic provides evidence in favor of Ace... Again, the points: - Only kill targets showed up in the night post - I showed up in the night post - My killer died - I have a vet role with an unknown power that is bad for mafia Ace claims he was kidnapping me, but it doesn't make any sense that I (my role) would be named in the night post if I was simply a failed kidnap attempt. If Ace was kidnapping me, he wouldn't be writing me into a kill post; his killer would know nothing of me and not write me into the post; why would pevergreen edit me into the story? Logical On February 14 2011 16:52 aidnai wrote: ok wtf, and now I get this from pevergreen... I take this to mean I had nothing to do with Ace's death wtf... Admits he was wrong, sorta. On February 14 2011 18:06 aidnai wrote: kita, the pm's i sent you before you died -- did you find any inconsistencies? can you say anything about gryffindor? and orgahs, just for kicks, what is the backstory between pevergreen and kagemusha? I saw kagemusha is a mod over at TW, and then in the day2 post there was this (from my character) I'd like to know this too. On February 14 2011 18:33 aidnai wrote: Not used to these short days... only two hours left, and I have no idea who to vote for T.T I think we'll be seeing some modkills soon too. For OMGUS voting and contributing nothing, Vote Beefy187 Bad vote imo, there were better candidates Ok, quite a lot to go through but overall I think he's much more likely to be town. Especially because of the roleclaim and his assumption that he took out ace. I think a mafia would have thought it through a bit more and been more cautious. He has said I few things that I don't like, but overall I wouldn't be wary of him yet. One last note, his roleclaim means that: -If he is mafia, he has an excuse for not being targeted when other TL veterans are dying all around us. -If its legit, the only way mafia can safely get rid of him is to get him lynched. I would certainly encourage a DT to check people who pushed for his lynch after his roleclaim. | ||
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Just to clarify, that would be chaoser and gryffindor. Beefy also voted for him, but just as an OMGUS. No harm keeping an eye on him however. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On February 12 2011 16:36 Insanious wrote: Alrighty so, I'm finally settled in with my net on. Was at work in the morning, then on a train to come back to see the rents. Now that I have time to actually sit down and read the thread, the fun can begin. As a start, I would like to simply Vote: Insanious There now that this is out of the way time to read up on what has happened so far. On February 13 2011 03:27 Insanious wrote: Having played on .org before, I can tell you, basically you play exactly like you did before you died BUT: 1) You cannot vote 2) You cannot reveal anything in your role PM 3) You cannot reveal anything you found out pre-death based on role powers (etc. saving people, DT'ing, if you viged someone, etc...) So basically you can just scum hunt, and you can win with the town still. On February 15 2011 13:37 Insanious wrote: I've read the thread twice and have a hard time finding anyone that I see as red. The posts are so small, and the analysis so far so few that there really isn't anything for me to look at. I mean seriously, people are just trying to do pressure voting right now and no one is even getting pressured. BTW, answering a question =/= simply posting something found on the front page. Someone asked for help and I gave it, would you rather I left the town in confusion? That doesn't seem very town like. I'd rather post meaningful posts that contribute to the town then continue to have to post nothing because people just want to see my name in the thread. What is there to contribute right now? No one has contributed a single thing so far and we have no suspects at all even though we're getting close to day 3. People need to post more in general, and need to post longer posts to give people something to actually write about. The only people we can really look at right now are like Coag and aidnai and even then, they don't seem that scummy really. So here ilovejonn, here's my obligatory nothing post to make you happy... I'll post in the future when I have something to say, but right now... I have nothing to work with, nothing to analyze, and as such have nothing to say. Nothing to talk about at all... | ||
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SiNiquity - scummy/inactive/done Insanious - inactive/done thefluffyone93 - needs to contribute more/done ilovejonn - needs to contribute more/done chaoser - needs to contribute more JBright - borderline active gryffindor - active/watching him Believer - active/watching him Mr. Wiggles - active GMarshal - active darmousseh - active Coagulation - active/dropped off the radar somewhat? Beefy187 - meh start, doing better though aidnai - I believe him for now/done | ||
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On February 16 2011 01:00 deconduo wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=186653¤tpage=28#558 Please read over this. Unless you start doing something town really quick, I am going to be pushing for you as today's lynch. I really doubt you can do anything to convince me otherwise, but I'm happy to give you a chance. Vote:GGQ | ||
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On February 16 2011 03:28 GGQ wrote: vote: deconduo -You don't respond to any of my points/accusations. -You OMGUS vote without giving any reason yet again. -You still fail to contribute. | ||
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First of all, I am GeneralHankerchief. Some of you already know this. I am not going to roleclaim right now. I would also like to humbly ask for medic protection tonight. This is something that I would normally never do, however given the situation we're in I feel I should. If our medic(s) are in a WIFOM mood, GMarshal and Coagulation fit the mafia's target of active vet TL player. The following players need to contribute more. I've said it before and I'm going to reiterate it now: SiNiquity Insanious thefluffyone93 ilovejonn chaoser @thefluffyone93 While you might not be used to doing long analyses, you can help beefy by giving us better insights on the .org personalities. This is also important. Lastly, I would like Ace, Node, bum and BB to start helping. You guys are still in the game. The reason mafia took you out is to promote the rampant inactivity. But you can still scumhunt, analyse, contribute. If you were a vanilla townie, nothing has changed since your death. You should still be playing exactly how you were. Lunar and kita are sort of helping, but could also do a bit more. Together we can pull town out of this mess and get an epic turnaround victory! | ||
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Now a medic just claimed to me..... Fuck My Life | ||
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Logic behind this: Why would a townie kill Mr.Wiggles? I don't think he has done anything particularly scummy so far, and he's one of the few people who are active/contributing. One exception: The ability is a one off that kills the person that killed kita. Still, I find this unlikely. | ||
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On February 16 2011 22:10 Believer wrote: Have you notified pever about this? Or is it someone who already have been WoG'ed? Yah I told pever. I probably should have kept this out of the thread but I'm just fucking frustrated right now. | ||
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On February 17 2011 02:55 GMarshal wrote: ok, now that darmousseh name has been revealed I have excellent news, from my pm I know that the player with the name atheotes is almost certainly mafia. So you think darmousseh was mafia? Can you elaborate more? | ||
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Original Message From darmousseh: hey, so far you seem to be the most townlike person. Without flipping this game it makes it a lot harder to trust anyone. I came to you because I know you are GeneralHankerchief and probably have a really awesome ability. I can check the name of any player in the game once per night. I asked for mr wiggles night 1. Mr. Wiggles is Seamus Fermanagh (Seamus for short) and asked for your name night 2. I really hope you are town and so far you seem to be doing a good job of analyzing. I'm trying to not stand out too much since I have a pretty good ability for town. If you have any suggestions for whom I should name check next I will ask. Wiggles has been confirmed as Seamus, and I know I'm GeneralHankerchief. In addition no one has counterclaimed me. That leads me to believe he was legit. It just seems odd that mafia would get a DT, but maybe I'm reading too much into it. | ||
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Coagulation Tosalnu GMarshal Beskar aidnai Kage Beefy187 Chaotix SiNiquity JBright gryffindor Believer Insanious thefluffyone93 chaoser ilovejonn Unknown: Reenk Beefy (Japanese, friend of pevergreen, lynched when innocent and survives when mafia) fluffy (spammy) Sasaki Kojiro (Always suspicious. He votes for Csargo) Romanic (analyzer) Secura (Beskars friend) Also beefy posted this: atheotes (always mafia. Always) | ||
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Sasaki Kojiro (Always suspicious. He votes for Csargo) Sasaki is probably thefluffyone. He voted for Misder(Csargo) first thing both days. Possibly a mafia candidate too? | ||
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If you are town, please come forward and explain why you killed Mr. Wiggles. You can PM me if you don't want to claim in the open. If you don't I'm going to continue with my assumption that you are not on town's side. | ||
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On February 17 2011 10:03 beefy187 wrote: Renata is a very nice lady. And I think its a female name I see theres a lot of new developments. atheotes being mafia all the time is true. But for us Org players, that will make it too easy if atheotes is really mafia. Thats just WIFOM though.... | ||
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On February 17 2011 22:19 bumatlarge wrote: Look at the kill list. Unless someone from totalwar did a ridiculous amount of research, the kills are such an obvious pattern. That leaves: deconduo Insanious chaoser GMarshal ilovejonn Of those who would do this, deonduo and chaoser fit the bill pretty well. I've been mafia with both of them, and they are prone to get rid of experienced players they know first. Everyone on the kill list are experienced players they know. Deconduo can take a bit of a leadership role, and chaoser not so much. It is possible for it to be the other TLers, but then they put some work into changing up their style and deserve to win. It has deconduo written all over it. I'm not really going to argue it too much, as I don't feel too much of a drive to help town anymore, but I'd feel guilty if I didn't do anything since I can talk. I'd also be surprised if anyone left actually did any analysis or penalty guessing. Look at night kills too, please. You have to figure out how much KP mafia have. I'm guessing they are at 1 grunt 1 GF, and a third party might have KP. I bet decon and chaoser are on different sides. First of all, thank you for helping out, even if it is a half assed effort. However, you are wrong. As scum I don't go for the experienced players, I go for the middle of the road guys. I want to take out better than average players with little/no risk of the kill being blocked by a medic. You can look over all my games as mafia to see this is the case. I would never risk going after Ace/Node etc. early on as they are too likely to be protected. Secondly, coag posted this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=186653¤tpage=11#202 No research needed by anyone. In fact I find it much more likely that mafia would be either new or used to a different style of play to risk targeting veteran TL players. Especially on night 2 when I specifically called for medics to protect them: On February 13 2011 23:13 deconduo wrote: Medics should be looking at veteran players as they are being targetted. As such, I think theres a good chance Beefy and fluffy are both mafia. For today, I think that thefluffyone93 would be a decent lynch. He hasn't contributed much, (though there's plenty of people alive that are the same) but we also have the slip with the role PM. In addition, look at these posts by Beefy: + Show Spoiler + On February 14 2011 22:47 beefy187 wrote: Well losing Project Psycho (Kommodus) was a big blow. He probably had a investigation ability as Kommodus had a nickname "Holmes" on the Org. We're already down to 19 so I'll share my thoughts so far. iirc we are using the God Father system, or something very close to it. Which means the host picks one God Father who chooses two grunts. Three men killed so far has all been teamliquid players. As mafias are more likely to kill people who they are comfortable killing, I think the mafias are teamliquid players as well. If I were God Father, I would like to use two men I can definitely count on so I would'nt use any outsiders. So the mafia can't be me or fluffy. If the mafias are in this to win, they would've hired vets. On the Org, controlling the discussion is a double edged sword, as the town may call for your head if you make the wrong call, but on this place you lot seem to go after those who doesn't contribute. I'll be looking at people who constantly posts and discusses, but does nothing controversial. On February 17 2011 23:15 beefy187 wrote: Vote: Gryffindor Regardless of his alignment, he must die. I wouldn't cross off the Org players just from the kill pattern. Mafia can have a Quick topic where all the team members can discuss stuff. But I believe me and Fluffy is innocent because who ever was chosen GF wouldn't choose a outsider Same goes for the style of writing. He is very adamant that the mafia must be TL players and he and fluffy are definitely innocent. He has been contributing somewhat by giving information on personalities, but that could just be because he knows personalities and alignment don't have any connection? Or he could be holding back anything relatively important to give the impression that he is helping. Also look at this: 'If I were God Father, I would like to use two men I can definitely count on so I would'nt use any outsiders.' Would make sense that one of them would be very likely to pick the other. Next: Insanious gryffindor SiNiquity These are the only unknown names right now. One of these is Reenk Roink, killed Mr. Wiggles and I'm pretty certain is anti-town. Note that both kita and Mr. Wiggles were killed during the day, and both deaths are connected. There is definitely something going on here but I'm not too sure what. I would like all three to nameclaim ASAP. 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On February 18 2011 04:43 darmousseh wrote: How has gryffindor not been lynched yet? Do you not think that fluffy is a better lynch right now? | ||
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node ace coag: Killed walking the street at night why aidnai: Killed while using laptop kitaman: Killed while using laptop, daykill bum brownbear: Killed in their room, food connection wiggles: camel, twilight kill zerroth misder: camel, lynched GGQ: cliff, lynched | ||
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On February 18 2011 05:01 darmousseh wrote: His posts are terrible. No analysis, short, only responds when he needs to. Either bad mafia or bad town. This game is really confusing. Yes, but he's not the only one. We have two people that posted Role PMs that have obvious errors. Believer did it on purpose, fuffy did not. I do find gryffindor very scummy, and he would be #3 on my lynch list. Fluffy and Beefy are above him though. | ||
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On February 18 2011 07:28 darmousseh wrote: Wouldn't the part be in red? ? Why? | ||
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On February 18 2011 23:08 bumatlarge wrote: What. And people wonder why dead people don't want to contribute anything this game. Believer made a similar mistake as fluffy, right? You mulled over believer's claim like fine wine. Fluffy makes his bad PM paste, and he's lynched fairly promptly. Hopefully Ace was mafia, or this game would already be over. deconduo believer Do yourselves a favor and try to win, town. -You haven't responded to my previous post, you just started throwing out accusations again. -Believer told two people that he was going to fake claim, myself and coag. His PM had mistakes on purpose. In fact fluffy probably copied his one thinking it was legit. Original Message From Believer: The deed is done, I have released my fake claim. Please back me if needed. | ||
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Lynch insanious for the win, he is the 3rd party killer. | ||
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On February 19 2011 22:45 Believer wrote: If me and JBright were killed by the same man it definately indicates that it is the godfather. Also a vigilante obviously, for the remaining kill. Serial killer, not vig. | ||
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On February 19 2011 23:48 Believer wrote: My bad. Although it doesn't specify that it was the same guy who killed me and Renata, I still think it's the same. It also says something about Rainbow, which is a character from the Org. Yah. Anyway Insanious needs to be lynched today, its pretty obvious he is the SK. | ||
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On February 20 2011 01:23 chaoser wrote: So there's 6 of us, probably GF and SK since Jbright and believer both died to the same guy. If we lynch SK today, it's 5. GF kills 2 at night, it's down to 3, we have awesome chance of winning. We need to lynch SK today though. Or we can try to sniff out GF. Seriously, I'm like 99% sure insanious is SK. | ||
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On February 20 2011 03:46 Insanious wrote: Can someone show me what deconduo actually did? Really show me... I looked through his posts and I saw litterally nothing. 39 spam posts 15 posts that were simply him quoting every post a player made (or close too) and then saying they could or could not be scum. This isn't helpful. The scum in Pokemafia used this tactic to look like town, all they did were HUGE analysis that no one really read and said nothing, and they STOMPED the town. Look in mafia XXXV, annul did the EXACT same kind of analysis, and the only reason he lost that game was because 2 of the mafia went inactive and were mod killed. This kind of analysis is NOT helpful, and is used by scum ALL the time. Now PLEASE, quote posts where deconduo did ANYTHING... hell, quote posts by ANY player that did any thing. Throught this whole thread there have been like 4 useful posts... GMarshal decoding why's message. chaoser pointing out fluffy's missing "you are town". This was done through 2 posts by each player. EVERY other post in this who thread... are spammy and useless. Please, help me. Show me posts where someone did anything besides these two scenarios. I caught fluffy, GGQ and I'm going to get you. I helped crack why's code. I got people to start talking (sorta) I've done a lot behind the scenes. I've helped promote discusion. I've done my best, made an effort in this game. You say 39 spam posts, thats bullshit. At most ten posts out of 70 could have gone without being posted, if even that. You've had 2 non-spam posts in the 9 days this game has been running, and even then they didn't contribute anything. All you did was complain that people didn't post enough. How ironic. This is one of your first posts: On February 15 2011 13:37 Insanious wrote: People need to post more in general, and need to post longer posts to give people something to actually write about. I'll post in the future when I have something to say, but right now... I have nothing to work with, nothing to analyze, and as such have nothing to say. Guess what, you never did. I also find it amusing that you are desperately trying to defend yourself by trying to say I did nothing. | ||
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On February 20 2011 06:00 chaoser wrote: I'll be gone/busy tonight so lets start voting yes? Insanious is probably SK or at the very least not pro-town; I'm actually fairly certain of this given just how much he has posted (7 posts before today) He claims that he'll post when he has more to say but guess what, he never does. His defense is that REALLY GUYS! THERES NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT!! Weak. What do you guys think about beefy? No one's really commented on my posts about him and he's oddly silent today. I think theres a pretty good chance he is godfather, but its much more important to kill insanious today as he is guaranteed. If you don't kill GF or SK today you lose, hence killing the almost confirmed SK is vital. | ||
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Ah well I was hoping your personality wouldn't allow you to lie, shame. | ||
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On February 20 2011 06:24 Insanious wrote: If I am SK i lose by this, If I am Mafia I lose by this, If I am town, town loses by dying. So want to rethink this? If I am SK, then I am alone, I die... game over If I am GF, then according to everyone here GGQ and fluffy were mafia making the GF last living mafia member. If I am GF, I am alone, I die... game over. If I am town, then I get lynched, SK kills someone, and GF kills two people. Town loses... So guess what, no matter what role I am, if I die I lose. I have been disapointed with the play in this game, so have not posted. I still am disapointed and have little to nothing to go on for a defense. As such I repost my role PM: Really think my role would be anti-town... Roles don't mean anything. | ||
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On February 20 2011 07:08 Insanious wrote: So after town loses today, and the role PM's come out and I am shown to be town... I'm just going to say that deconduo + chaoser you two played a magnificent scum team... don't know who was your 3rd. Sad that you two are going to lose to the SK though. ##vote chaoser lol you are so far off | ||
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On February 20 2011 07:50 Insanious wrote: False. I say deconduo was a grunt. As such killing me gurantees an anti-town is dead... but might not be one that matters. As well, I never said it wasn't good for GF to kill 1 person, just that it doesn't help town. Killing 1 or killing 2 does the same amount of damage to the town... GF would of had to only kill 1 yesterday for it to make a difference to the town. Lol If I was a grunt, how was there 2 mafia kills last night? Fail. | ||
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On February 21 2011 01:21 Insanious wrote: Also, chaoser = GF, GMarshal = SK. The only way the town can win is if GMarshal kills chaoser, and chaoser kills GMarshal. Nah I don't think GMarshal is SK. He was the only one I really trusted so it would be really strange of him to kill me when I would have helped him no matter what. Thats a bit WIFOMish but still. | ||
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On February 21 2011 07:10 darmousseh wrote: OMG, i can't believe you guys still think I was mafia. Quiet scum | ||
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At this point I think its time to lynch GMarshal. He's the only veteran TL player that wasn't killed which speaks volumes. In addition, beefy pointed out that in .org games, the SK gets a night kill and a rolecheck, which would also point towards GMarshal. | ||
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On February 21 2011 22:58 GMarshal wrote: I hate to tell you but if I were the GF the last person I would have killed would have been chaoser, as he was the one being pointed out as mafia before the day ended, I think whoever killed him made a stupid move, but then again it does set me up as the last surviving TL mafia "vet" (I don't consider myself a veteran by any means, but thanks) Nah I think GF is dead and you are SK. You would kill chaoser as you thought he was GF. | ||
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When you look at the SK kills: Why, Aidnai, Deconduo, Chaoser I feel GMarshal fits the profile best. | ||
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On February 22 2011 00:55 GMarshal wrote: He did... I must have missed it... ok. I think a SK would want to keep you around chaoser just because the case against you was so strong that it was likely you were going to be lynched. (I know that had you survived the night I was going to go ahead and do a post by post analysis of you) However now that I am thinking I think beefy is the GF (or SK, but I think we got the SK), of all the people left he has the scummiest read IMO. SiNiquity actually has a very solid name claim (I just went back and read it) it seems fairly solid, and I dont think a scum role would also have a day kill. gryffindor I feel is town (nothing really solid there) I know I'm town, that just leaves beefy. Looking at the SK kills it could be anyone. + Show Spoiler + kitaman was browsing the web, taking a break from participating in the conversation. He just got an email from his best friend in the whole world. It was a link to a cool new website. When the page finally loaded, kitaman dropped his laptop. He had started convulsing. His hands and legs contorted and began to flail around. He dropped from his seat and foam came out of his mouth. Unfortunately for him, no one managed to help him in time. Points to sinquity ----------- As the town gathered, the day of voting began. Before discussion could properly begin, Andres was planning his drinking for the night. Having gotten a draft plan from one of his drinking buddies, he was just putting the final touches to a night out, when he got an email from a friend. It contained a picture so vile to him that his body started to convulse. Within moments why had died. As people looked at his screen, they tried to figure out how a picture of a bottle of Heineken could kill a man. Only person with motive to kill why was gryffindor as far as I can see ------------ As he spoke Kagemusha was checking out some history sites, he was cautiously optimistic about the upcoming release of Shogun 2: Total War and was refreshing his memory about the history. When he came to a summary page, he dropped his laptop. aidnai died like the others. Points to beefy ------------ Martok had installed a brand new voting tracker system, all electronic that counted the votes on big screens. As each person walked past, the screens remained as they should, but as deconduo walked past, the screen flashed. After everyone had been seated, one of the men put his hands in his pocket. deconduo started convulsing. He died shortly after, the same symptoms as the others. Martok blinked in disbelief. They were so close, what he had thought was the real threat had gone. This couldn't go on much longer. ----------- "We were lucky, no one died last night." As he said that, chaoser broke into spasms and died quickly. "Well, 'khaan died. Still, no loss. Continue as usual, but at this rate we'll all be dead tomorrow." Points to beefy | ||
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On February 22 2011 09:25 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Hey, here's an idea, Third Party. Insanious was part of the third party, and they get some kind of KP, and then the third party KP was used on deconduo the other night. So maybe it's not an SK, it's a third party with some kind of shared KP? Hmm, so who defended insanious? | ||
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On February 22 2011 22:38 gryffindor wrote: I killed you, deconduo I'm confused then I thought I was killed be the SK. | ||
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Considering my red text I had to put myself way out in the spotlight which eventually got me killed by the SK. Maybe if ilovejohn hadn't been modkilled I would have had a better chance as he would be protecting me, but otherwise I was screwed Well played GMarshal + other towns. | ||
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Original Message From pevergreen: You are GeneralHankerchief You are the father of mafia. You brought it here, hosted the early games and the longest running series of games. You are Mafia (Godfather) Victory condition: Outnumber surviving town players To assist you in your task, you and your partners. Sasaki Kojiro (thefluffyone93) and Seamus Fermanagh (Mr. Wiggles) can communicate in this quicktopic thread: http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/sq2cnYza647 I will be watching it and it will be the fastest way to talk to me. Each night phase, both of your grunts may kill a player. You sit back and let them do the dirty work. If one dies, the other can still only kill once per night. If both die, you gain the ability to kill twice per night. You are not immune to investigations. You must attempt to be the leading voice of the town, directing its lynches and being the front man for everything | ||
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On February 22 2011 23:32 Believer wrote: deconduo, how much fun did you have pretending to be town to me? You live, you learn.. But that was pretty brutal. =( I actually hate being mafia just for that reason. I don't like deceiving people Apart from that I think I played well. I dunno how many people I convinced I was town, but if I hadn't be killed by the SK I'm pretty confident I would have won. | ||
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On February 23 2011 00:59 chaoser wrote: woah...how did why know deconduo was the one that killed him? that's pretty baller dude. thumbs up. Also, gryf, you really could have just not said anything and waited till last minute to vote, pretty sure we were banking on beefy being SK though I was starting to have doubt cause of his voting pattern, what kind of SK would have the restriction of only being able to vote for those that have voted you...that's a harsh restriction for an SK. And it had been going on for days so I assumed it had to be true. I didn't kill why, gryffindor did. The whole code was just to fuck with people | ||
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On February 23 2011 01:41 GMarshal wrote: Dosn't matter, it was fun to crack, it just so happened that he tagged a guilty player with it. (I had full faith in why's truthfulness too ) Me too, thats why I was convinced Insanious was the SK. | ||
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On February 23 2011 05:17 Ace wrote: I was neutral and pretty much had to stay alive to win - many lulz were had seeing that one. Also you're a funny guy duo - asking my opinion on what I think about other players. SCUM MOVE! | ||
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