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Ok so with kav saying there are 5 mafia, and there being probably 1 SK left, (ON was either an SK or mafia, doesn't really matter). That means 2 kp for mafia and 1 kill for SK.
What probably happened. SK and mafia happen to pick the same target. SK ends up being the killer. Read this carefully.
And then another persons enters the clearing. He is careful, disturbing nothing, as quiet as the trees surrounding him. A coward, he hid in the shadows witnessing it all, doing nothing. He gazes down at the body of Meapak, the drying blood staining his feet. He shudders, and continues on.
Really fills my mind
I followed TheAldo. And as I ran my knife across his throat, no one was there to help him.
I read this as, SK kills meapak. mafia tries to kill meapak, but SK already did it so he just shrudders and continues on. Mafia kills thealdo.
There is no indication that the person that witnessed the incident and thealdo are the same person. From my reading of the story, they are probably different people.
From the clues that have been posted, so far here are my conclusions.
RebirthOfLegend is an SK. Nemesis is scum.
My reasoning for RoL being an SK is that he has been apprehensive about everything and initially didn't vote himself as mayor. The reason he ended up deciding to try for mayor at all is to prevent a scum from being mayor since he thought there was a possibility that kav was scum. He also is very active so far and has helped more with analysis than a mafia would, but there clues against him are present in the story and he can't deny it. Since he is acting on his own, he has very little support from mafia players and is kinda being surrounded. If he was truly scum, then he would have probably put more effort into becoming mayor.
Nemsis, then by elimination, is the scum. He is desperately trying to combat all information we gather in clues. Here are some recent posts.
5 mafia according to him.
sigh, do I even have to point out why this analysis is crap?
Fine, I guess I will. First of all, the clues are divided into two parts: the two seperate deaths....
Next day, I think it might be more beneficial to check the number of SK's.
kitaman, I would rather not depend on clues over post analysis.
And fine, if you think the clue leads to him, and want him lynched for the first day. Don't you already have kavdragon's support? Why discuss it further if kav has already decided to lynch him?
I don't really have time to delve hardcore into this day's clue right now, but let me just give you what I could find in a short amount of time.
Almost all of his posts have a negative attitude towards the value of clues and the value of things which would help townies get more information about SKs.
He has provided 1 post which attempted to find clues on the killer and in that post he said
To people doing clue analysis, I would suggest to take a look at Night 0's clues. Since there are a lot of crap analysis going on right now. The clues from night 0 are the "duct tape" which was straight from Qatol's quote. The clues are pretty straightforward. Don't try and look for things which might be related to something in people's profile.
Yet he is basically the only one proposing that the analysis done so far was crap. Almost all of the analysis so far seems very spot on and is confirmed by multiple players.
Therefore, for this lynch I propose we lynch nemesis since he is scum and tomorrow we can check the # of mafia to see if we are right. If there is only 1 SK, which I propose is RebirthOfLegend, then there is no harm in letting him live 1 more day since we are likely to get more clues after the next night and we can doubley confirm him and confirm that it is indeed a SK via # of kills. Also the clues pointing towards RoL aren't as decisive as the ones pointing to nemesis. The reason to vote RoL tonight would be to lower the # of SK to 0. If we want, a vig can hit RoL, but I think we should save the Vig for later so we can doubly check to make sure he is actually the SK.
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I have a feeling this is going to be a really short game if the clues are anywhere as easily tracked as last nights.
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On January 27 2011 14:46 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2011 14:16 BrownBear wrote:If anyone took a hit, now would be your time to claim. Also, right now I think the most obvious clue was pointed out already by LD: On January 27 2011 11:34 LunarDestiny wrote:Some nights I thirst for real blood
For real knives
For real cries
And then the flash of steel from real guns
In real life
Really fills my mind
You can’t hideNemesisArcher's Reality Marble: Reality Marble"I am the bone of my sword. Steel is my body, and fire is my blood. I have created over a thousand blades. Unknown to death. Nor known to life. Have withstood pain to create many weapons. Yet, these hands will never hold anything. So as I pray, 'Unlimited Blade Works'." That's a pretty damning point directly to Nemesis. I do agree that we shouldn't lynch based purely off of clues though. Right now, who I'm thinking of voting for is either Nem or bum. I have voted for Nemesis for the time being, but that is definitely open to change depending on the situation. sigh, do I even have to point out why this analysis is crap? Fine, I guess I will. First of all, the clues are divided into two parts: the two seperate deaths. That means that the clues in the first night points to two different people. Now if you look at the statements that he took from the clues, those are spread out all over the place in the day post. They can be found in both deaths. So unless you are saying that both clues point to me, then that part of your clue analysis is crap. Second of all, this one is just a bit of speculation on how clues work, but the italicized parts and the bold parts feel a bit like red herring. If you look at Night 0's clue, none of the actual clues are found within the italicized parts. Third of all, that kind of feels forced. Well I don't necessarily blame you since you probably don't really understand what my quote is from, and what a reality marble is. A reality marble is magic that forces the reality in your mind to come to life in the real world. So using real as a clue to point to me is rather farfetched. And I just had to facepalm when you bolded really. That just kind of seems too forced. To people doing clue analysis, I would suggest to take a look at Night 0's clues. Since there are a lot of crap analysis going on right now. The clues from night 0 are the "duct tape" which was straight from Qatol's quote. The clues are pretty straightforward. Don't try and look for things which might be related to something in people's profile. For example, someone has a picture of a character from a movie. Then there was something in the clue that could be related to that movie but to a different character in the movie. Mods won't go that far to make the clues as vague as possible. Remember that the clue is directly related to the Profile, not second-hand relation. I don't really have time to delve hardcore into this day's clue right now, but let me just give you what I could find in a short amount of time. Show nested quote +And there in the clearing, in the moonlight, Meapak_Ziph runs at full speed, jumping over roots, snapping aside branches. And close behind him a black shape, only a blur in the darkness, gaining, about to grab, only a hand-length away... From Gmarshal's profile As for the second kill, all I could find so far was this: Show nested quote +I followed TheAldo. And as I ran my knife across his throat, no one was there to help him. From Kitaman's Profile: "Keeper Yes, my lord; But yet I cannot help you." "Surveyor 'If,' quoth he, 'I for this had been committed, As, to the Tower, I thought, I would have play'd The part my father meant to act upon The usurper Richard; who, being at Salisbury, Made suit to come in's presence; which if granted, As he made semblance of his duty, would Have put his knife to him.'" Now obviously I haven't read all of kitaman's profile so I'm not really sure if I'm taking those out of context. I'll read it when I have the time, but if someone who knows the story there can help me if anything could be related to the clues, I would appreciate it. And of course lynching based on clues alone would be stupid unless the clues are pretty damning, so I will hold out on my vote for now.
2 things.
1. I'm examining Gmarshal's profile, but so far, only that 1 thing seems to be similar. I haven't found any information otherwise.
2. That quote is waaaaaaaaaaay down in the kitamans' profile. My guess is you just ctrl-f'd and searched for a bunch of buzz words from the story and came up with 2 very vague words (knife and help) and since kita's profile is so large, the chances of buzzwords being the same is very high. Not so obvious of a clue I think.
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I'm still really bothered with the quote from the story
The noises inside are a mystery. The scampering in the bush, a deer? That blood-curdling scream, nothing an animal could make.
I feel like that is probably a clue, but I can't find anything in any profile. Also theres a bunch of stuff about noises. Anyone else have any luck?
Also
Away from the campfire, away from the tents, away from the city. The thick, ancient trunks loom, the undisturbed bark hard as stone, the tangled roots cloying at uncareful limbs. No one knows what happens there probably has some clue in it, but again no luck.
Other than that, we have like 33 hours until night. I'll try to see if these clues correspond to anything.
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On January 28 2011 02:13 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2011 01:55 darmousseh wrote:Nemsis, then by elimination, is the scum. He is desperately trying to combat all information we gather in clues. Here are some recent posts. 5 mafia according to him. sigh, do I even have to point out why this analysis is crap?
Fine, I guess I will. First of all, the clues are divided into two parts: the two seperate deaths....
Next day, I think it might be more beneficial to check the number of SK's. kitaman, I would rather not depend on clues over post analysis. And fine, if you think the clue leads to him, and want him lynched for the first day. Don't you already have kavdragon's support? Why discuss it further if kav has already decided to lynch him? I don't really have time to delve hardcore into this day's clue right now, but let me just give you what I could find in a short amount of time. Almost all of his posts have a negative attitude towards the value of clues and the value of things which would help townies get more information about SKs. Anyone find it hypocritical that Nemesis spends so much time bashing the clue analysis and then proceeds to attempt to find two weak clue references to myself and GMarshal? It should also be noted that Nemesis was one of the more vocal RoL supporters for mayor and neither suspect has attempted to turn on each other yet. Show nested quote +On January 28 2011 01:55 darmousseh wrote: If we want, a vig can hit RoL, but I think we should save the Vig for later so we can doubly check to make sure he is actually the SK. I believe SK block vig hits since they are bulletproof, so if you are sure he is a SK then a vig hit would be more of a confirmation shot, than a kill shot. If you believe he is mafia, then a vig shot would certainly be appropriate, however.
Oh, I forgot about the bulletproof thing, this is my first game sorry :p. Well, in that case I just say lets lynch him after we lynch nemesis. How many vigilantes are there per game typically? Vig can also act after the next set of clues.
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On January 28 2011 02:41 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2011 02:16 darmousseh wrote:I'm still really bothered with the quote from the story The noises inside are a mystery. The scampering in the bush, a deer? That blood-curdling scream, nothing an animal could make. I feel like that is probably a clue, but I can't find anything in any profile. Also theres a bunch of stuff about noises. Anyone else have any luck? Also Away from the campfire, away from the tents, away from the city. The thick, ancient trunks loom, the undisturbed bark hard as stone, the tangled roots cloying at uncareful limbs. No one knows what happens there probably has some clue in it, but again no luck. Other than that, we have like 33 hours until night. I'll try to see if these clues correspond to anything. Fits don't it?
hahahahahaha, there you go. BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Not exactly a scream, but annoying none the less. So I guess me and kita(moon picture) are the closest suspects other than nemesis and RoL.
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From wiki answers
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_black_blood_mean
Answer The meaning behind darker blood varies depending on where the blood is coming from: Darker blood from menstruation could mean that the blood is old because periods are not regular. Dark blood from your veins could mean something like you have too much iron in your blood. Veinous blood as well as fresh menstrual blood should always be bright to deep red, not burgundy or black. If blood is dark you should have it checked out by a doctor.
hahahaha, thats the first thing I found when searching google.
The other is a vampire anime. I think it's probably a very obscure or made up story.
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There seem to be a lot of people who are not posting anything. Are people always this inactive?
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Good morning everyone.
First thing
On January 28 2011 14:39 Mr. Wiggles wrote: ##Vote Mr. Wiggles XD
So far I have to agree with Kav that I'm suspicious of RebirthOfLegend, but I don't think the evidence is nearly as strong as it is for nemesis, and I also suspect RoL is actually a SK based on what I said in my previous post.
Pages 46,47,48 (while I was sleeping) seem a lot like arguing over inactivity and a ton of back and forth accusations rather than analysis for the most part.
Maybe someone will find something else interesting. The coagulation part seems useful, I have no clue who that person on the pictures in his profile is though. Maybe someone knows who that is?
I will still be voting for nemesis as the clues seem very persuasive. Unless someone comes up with something better in the next 10 hours. I'm out of luck on finding clues.
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It's my wife's birthday today, so I probably won't log back on until GSL starts. I think nemesis and RoL are my top picks. I might switch if I see some more evidence favoring one over the other. Conflag's evidence looks interesting too. Will check back in 20 mins before night.
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I think after this night we will get a ton more information. Serial killers have to kill so if we didn't lynch the SK yesterday, then there will be more clues pointing towards that person and if we did lynch the SK then yay town.
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The scene described kinda reminds me of a character from the video game silent hill 2. The one with the chef apron and the weird head named pyramid head.
I'm going to see if there is anything in anyone's profile related to this.
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I did not want to read that story. How does the moderator come up with this stuff? Geez. If i'm posting a lot tonight its because i couldn't fall asleep.
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On January 30 2011 12:03 Coagulation wrote: ya i dont really see how thats related
ya, forget that I even said that. It's a huge stretch. I'm having difficulty pinpointing clues from this one.
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On January 30 2011 12:07 zerroth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 12:05 darmousseh wrote:On January 30 2011 12:03 Coagulation wrote: ya i dont really see how thats related ya, forget that I even said that. It's a huge stretch. I'm having difficulty pinpointing clues from this one. Beneather Profile pic: Master chief Clues: Show nested quote +He looked up and saw a masked man with a blood-spattered black apron tied around his waist. The man masterfully handled his instruments, hands moving at a blur, flashes of steel rising and falling, leaving perfectly sized morsels behind. He lifted a finger to his mouth and sucked.
We had a new two new kinds of meat tonight. The flesh tastes like pork, a little bit more bitter, stronger. It tastes quite good. The second meat was really fatty and greasy, so the meat kind of breaks up in your mouth
And then we realized that this wasn't any ordinary meat. We never found the chef afterwards. Nor did we find d3_crescentia. He also had a mafia slip post 721
yup, thats definitely the strongest case so far. I'm still suspicious of nemesis too, but based on clues beneather is prime suspect.
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On January 30 2011 12:09 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 11:45 Kenpachi wrote:oh man Master Butcher lol its now obvious that is pointing to Beneather.. Is he Mafia, Vig, or SK is the question. Hahaha, nice find there. And that is quite a wonderful story :X So RoL flipped green. Looks like I have to reevaluate my suspects for now.
Is it possible that RoL was an SK? Or are we sure he was green?
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On January 30 2011 13:33 Coagulation wrote:another clue pointing at jackal Show nested quote + And close behind him a black shape, only a blur in the darkness, gaining, about to grab, only a hand-length away...
black shape cause of black uniform and hand length away about to grab etc sounds like a description of events related to the quarterback in his profile.
As in the QB snap? Black jersey. Nice pickup there.
the clues are starting to get heavier.
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