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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On December 31 2010 07:33 seRapH wrote:SoulfireShow nested quote +On December 27 2010 13:45 Soulfire wrote:
I had meant to contribute earlier, but I was watching some streamed games of my team's CW.
I'm a new player, so for the most part I've just been reading what everybody has said thus far and trying to come up with any reasonable conclusion, which not surprisingly has been futile. I've gone over previous games and observed common posting habits for many of the more veteran players in this game and I honestly don't notice anything alarming enough to begin to point fingers safely. I'd definitely have to agree with Pandain, Wiggles and others; focus attention on the inactives, but struggle to differentiate between those who just don't care and are probably going to be modkilled and people who are trying to lay low, specially people making pointless posts to avoid the modkill.
But I will speak for other players who are new like I am, it is difficult to post something that contributes in Day 1 - so yet another thing to differentiate: new players who are lost and can only agree with others, and mafia trying to slip under the radar and avoid modkill. Few points here: He’s new, he doesn’t want to out himself, and hands lurkers the excuse of not caring. First point isn’t incriminating, but the other two are pretty notable. Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 18:01 Soulfire wrote:
Yet another vote for Pandain - can you guys seriously stop that? There's no reason to be doing that, and the only thing we know about him thus far is that he's been pretty damn helpful, and past games show that he knows what he's doing. There's no reason to be piling votes on people, and new players will just be prompted to join the bandwagon. Ok, fine, Pandain wagon was bullshit, I have no clue why anyone joined it at all, town or not. What I do find interesting is that apparantly Pandain is "pretty damn helpful" while LSB, evidently, has not been. Show nested quote +On December 28 2010 14:22 Soulfire wrote:
Just read the last 5 pages, and like many others, paid attention to the argument between Annul and LSB. BOTH come off as scummy, but to be totally honest I think it's a safer bet to go with a lurker, for the same reasons that many have said - the more talkative a scum is, the more likely he is to make a mistake and thus be lynched. We have NOTHING to go by other than very slight hints in posting style. Our best bet easily is to lynch a lurker because they may continue lurking later on, and we won't be able to gather any hints from them that may identify them as scum. However, Annul and LSB will both continue posting frequently, thus increasing the chance that they may make mistakes and reveal themselves. If they all of a sudden STOP posting frequently, that'd be out of the character developed on day 1 and would be a pretty strong hint that they're scum.
Just my 2 cents. I don’t really get this. I’m thinking that if we can get Soulfire lynched or nightkilled then annul can be cleared of most suspicions. Once again he pushes lynching lurkers too. Also, people don’t switch roles midway (or at least not in this setup), so a change in character indicates they’re either dodging an accusation or real life problems. Show nested quote +On December 29 2010 08:19 Soulfire wrote:
I've been on the whole "lynch LSB" bandwagon, but after reading Pandain's logic, even though it makes HIM sound incredibly scummy as well the the information fishing, I'm gonna vote for Brocket. When I read over Pokemafia he indeed acted quite differently, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was trying to hide under the radar.
But yeah, Pandain really strikes me as a mafia trying to save LSB - but then again, is there any way to protect someone WITHOUT appearing suspicious? Atleast he presents a logical argument. If LSB does not "prove himself", LYNCH HIM ON DAY 2. Completely dodges the LSB/Annul situation by going for a new bandwagon on brocket. Also staying under the radar by following pandain quite closely: Show nested quote +On December 29 2010 11:36 Soulfire wrote:
Gonna actually have to agree with Pandain's analysis here, I didn't think of it the way he put it: We don't have much to go on, so we might as well guarantee important information with a lynch of LSB.
##Unvote
##Vote LSB Conclusion: Very likely scum. Not too many posts at all, and none of them offering any original insight. imo this is a better lynch than anyone else so far, but Mr Wiggles earns second place. If Soulfire dodges the lynch then I’d at least like someone to DT check him.
Just looks confused to me. I'm not sure I understand where you've parsed the line between new player and scum in this instance. He's made no attempts to say anything substantive, he's made no attempt to influence the town, he's made no attempt to add to the conversation. It's like he's been talking to himself.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On December 31 2010 05:56 Barundar wrote:
Anyone else with thoughts on option for double lynch? I personally think it's too early yet, atleast untill we get a better idea of targets for today.
Why would you even bring this up? Day 2 double lynch when we have no good targets? Are you just trying to fill space?
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On December 31 2010 08:34 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2010 05:56 Barundar wrote:
Anyone else with thoughts on option for double lynch? I personally think it's too early yet, atleast untill we get a better idea of targets for today. Why would you even bring this up? Day 2 double lynch when we have no good targets? Are you just trying to fill space?
I didn't bring it up, but may I ask why you don't want to discuss it? We need to get the town involved, if we want to lure out mafia.
You still suggest we should all post a FoS each?
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... and annul votes without providing a reason. I would like for some more of the inactives to join the discussion. Brockett what's your thoughts on the current targets? Darthien we still need to see a first post from you. Also maybe you could address some of the points raised against you, Seraph?
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On December 31 2010 09:06 Barundar wrote:
... and annul votes without providing a reason. I would like for some more of the inactives to join the discussion. Brockett what's your thoughts on the current targets? Darthien we still need to see a first post from you. Also maybe you could address some of the points raised against you, Seraph?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7433291
I'm not aware of any additional points that may have been raised. RoL has also declined to re-respond 
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On December 31 2010 07:38 Barundar wrote:
I find it interesting you appear when called out OpZ. I'm unsure whether you trust RoL or not, most of your posts in the thread has been about something he said. What do you think speaks for lynching Insanious?
Same reason Mepak found it a good course of action. Not to mention the dude gives me weird vibes, and Seraphs increased activity? Why aren't you asking Seraph why he appears when pressured, ONLY after LSB is lynched? Yet I'm worth your time? Honestly, you PM'd me, which made me start posting some more too. But you just ignored my PM apparently cuz you haven't responded. I'm Willing to give RoL a lynch, (listen to him for one lynch), but beyond that, we will have to see.
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someone fill me in imo imo imo
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I think a double lynch is a bad idea at this point, as we only have two of them for the whole game, and still don't have a clear first lynch target, much less second. I think annul is being a bit hasty in voting for double lynch
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Going to vote myself since it's new year's eve and I'll probably be lying incapacitated on a floor somewhere tomorrow. Seraph's analysis makes Soulfire look like a chobo and Mr Wiggle looks like a gabe (that's not a good thing).
Happy new year's y'all.
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Ahh what the hell.
I ought to contribute so I'll just make a decision now. Looking at the voting thread I have to disagree with a double lynch, it's honestly better when you have 2 or 3 people being suspected/pressured and who we need to see flipped.
Soulfire: I don't think Soulfire is a mafia, he seems to support his choice to vote well enough. I did the same thing in pokemafia and got a lot of shit from it day 1 and I was new.
Wiggle: Don't know. He doesn't annoy me like gabe did. Like Gabe made my buttcheeks clench every time I had to read his posts. And it didn't matter if gabe ended up being townie, I just wanted him out or myself killed. I can see why people would vote him though because he's a grey area.
Insanious: Draws attention to himself for this reason. I notice now that insanious was really pushing to get me lynched because I was inactive, and because I was inactive I didn't reply which just encouraged him to lynch me more. How amusing. Brocket almost didn't play the first 48 hours it because he was doing 7 hour driving stints from victoria to new south wales and had to sleep when he got home. Insanious hasn't been particularly convincing in lynching inactives and it wasn't a good idea to begin with. I don't lurk unless I say I'm lurking (check pokemafia).
RoL doesn't seem to like Insanious and he's been a pretty active dude keeping track of posts and so far that's good enough for me. I don't like late day bandwagons or bad assumptions and insanious seems to have done both. ##vote insanious.
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What the hell indeed.
Good evening all. There is no analysis or finger pointing in this post. Merely a heads up to the fact that I am now off work for the next 3 days and I fully intend to remain inebriated until Sunday night. So I may begin posting things that make less sense than I already have.
This is my second game of Mafia. My first was HP Mafia. I died the first night so I've already reached a milestone of sorts. And yes there is a reason for this rambling if you'll indulge me for a minute.
I see you guys making posts with your analysis. I do read all of it. But my own personal forum style is typically very short and to the point one liners.
I am aware that this has put some of you off. That I appear to be some type of lurker. But that is truly not the case. If you look at what I say it is typically very succinct and to the point.
If I make a point without an enormous amount of analysis behind it, it's because I have assumed you have all read the same things I have.
I don't say much but I usually speak volumes.
Happy New years eve to those of you now living in Dec 31st. I'll join you shortly.
Lynch ROL
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you know, i like this jackal guy
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Jackal, you made such a good point I am going to even vote for myself.
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As long as you're having fun 
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On December 31 2010 12:58 Jackal58 wrote:As long as you're having fun
My brain is about to start hemorrhaging uncontrollably.
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I have that effect on people.
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Jackal, the mafia that everybody loved.
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I'm going to assume that a lot of you guys know each other from the TL forums.
I'm new here. I have been aware of this place for years because of my love for Starcraft but I never joined until I was asked to in order to participate in the Mafia games.
A few of your members probably know me. Most probably don't.
This is where I live at on the internet:
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/search.php?searchid=6010406
Feel free to analyze me.
I'm all about 1 liners.
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Very insightful indeed Jackal =P
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