Pick Your Power Mafia 3! - Page 2

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 11 2011 22:18 GMT

#597

LSB, Your plan requires a bunch of people to have followed your drafting plan. I'm under the impression that quite a few people did not, myself included. Those who did not follow your plan decided not to because they felt revealing what they picked was a poor choice. Now you're trying to force them all to confirm their role, thus making them all targets for the scum to go after. You shouldn't be making players confirm their role if they haven't even claimed what they've taken yet.

On January 12 2011 05:33 LSB wrote:
Actually, now that I think about it. What do you guys think about Deconduo shocking Jackal58, and lynching RoL now?

This I can agree with. Each of these players have made a claim, with this course of action, it will tell us if they are lying or not.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 11 2011 23:46 GMT

#613

I just don't think we should punish a player for not following the LSB's plan when we had no agreement to follow the plan. Kenpachi apparently felt that there was a more important role to take before JOAT. It would seem that he took Copycat. Copycat is a pretty good role for both scum and townies to have. I don't really fault him for taking it.

If we're lucky, a lower pick that was not following the plan tried to pick up JOAT.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 12 2011 00:01 GMT

#624

On January 12 2011 08:51 LSB wrote:

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What Kenpachi did was drastically anti-town. It was calculated

First Kenpachi denied the JOAT role because everyone else thought he took JOAT. We just lost a huge role

Secondly it denied the Copy cat role, something the town could have used. If Jackel58 still had the copy-cat role, we could lynch aidnai without worrying about his role. However when some random person decides to hide a red role, we can't trust him.

Thirdly, no townie would take the Copy Cat role, because we already put the copycat role in Jackel58's hands.

You are acting like people agreed with your plan. Like I already said, a lot of people did not. You can't treat it as if people were doing it. He had no guarantee that Jackel58 was going to take Copycat. While I don't agree with taking Copycat over JOAT, it doesn't make him scum. It seems likely that he did take copycat, however he hasn't actually said that he did. We could also be losing a powerful role, if we were to kill Kenpachi so early. He has to have something else good if he wasn't CPR or Copycat.
I think we should be watching Kenpachi, but not lynching him day 1. He could still be of great use to us.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 12 2011 00:05 GMT

#630

On January 12 2011 09:00 Kenpachi wrote:
another thing id like to mention is that if im not CC, my role would go over to the real CC. For all you know, the CC might not even be in the top 8 (or is it 4)

CC is in t4 unless Jackal is scum and is lying. I believe the plan is to have cpr kill him tonight, so we'll learn that tonight.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 12 2011 00:10 GMT

#641

On January 12 2011 09:04 LSB wrote:

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Simple question. You are draft pick 11. Did you consider taking JOAT? Of course not, because you expected Kenpachi to take it.
Likewise, we expected deconduo to take CPR doc, so no one took it. And Jackel58 was expected to take Copycat.

If he has something good, well, he can claim and get protection. But would you lynch him if all he has is Copycat?
unvote
Vote: Kenpachi

I didn't take JOAT because I was pick 11. I figured someone in the t10 would have taken it by now. If i were pick 3. I would have considered it. Each player might value certain roles higher than others.
If he is copycat, I still don't want to kill him today. When day 2 starts, we will know what role he has or what roles he could potentially have and then make a decision from there.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 12 2011 00:33 GMT

#645

The person right below him wouldn't have been taking it. Ken was pick 2. CC was 5. That leaves at least 2+ potential scum the chance to take it. Factor in that there is a decent possibility that pick 5 won't take it either. Scum could have taken it at an even lower pick.

What advantage do we gain by killing him today as opposed to tomorrow? I'd rather learn about the traitor threat today than deal with Kenpachi.

You just keep talking as if your plan was followed. If people didn't want scum to know where each power role was, they wouldn't have picked straight off your list. It is pretty obvious that people valued having the role positions be unknown.

Lastly he claims to not be CC. Which again means he has to have a good ability. We don't want to kill him yet.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 12 2011 00:42 GMT

#649

On January 12 2011 09:39 Kenpachi wrote:

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uhh was he referring to LSB's plan? otherwise i dont understand what hes saying o_O

I think he was referring to the plan on how to pick your 2 numbers to get an assigned spot.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 12 2011 01:46 GMT

#668

On January 12 2011 10:34 Barundar wrote:
It’s late here, but can anyone give me a reason for a town player to secretly pick CC over JOAT? I find it hard to imagine a more pro town role than JOAT, no matter what CC turns into, and if you don’t announce your change of heart, you will still be a prime target for the mafia. But could there be a reason?

I made my choice clear before the pick, so someone else further down could take Bullet Bill secretly, and go unnoticed by SK/mafia. And I didn’t pick CC instead. So unless deconduo or Kitaman27 or Jackal58 is lying, Kenpachi’s it.

Yeah, we all know that someone in the T5 is lying. LOR is still a safer lynch though. We risk losing a valuable role if we lynch Kenpachi at the cost of no useful info and at best we kill a scum/traitor.
If we lynch LoR then at worst we lose a vanilla townie and gain some information, at best we lynch a scum/traitor.
I have to argue for lynching LoR over Kenpachi.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 12 2011 03:28 GMT

#673

So we haven't really determined who deconduo should be zapping. I suppose its either between Jackal and Kenpachi. I'd rather not have Kenpachi killed for the same reason I don't want him lynched. I'd like to wait till at least day 2 for that.

So my vote goes to Jackal. Others should make a vote soon as well. We should have a clear choice for decon.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 12 2011 20:36 GMT

#741

I'll go ahead and state my pick for CPR to kill again. I'm pretty busy today so I don't have time to say anything really useful atm.
I'd like CPR to kill off Jackal. I'll also push for not killing Kenpachi quite yet anyways. I get the feeling he is actually bulletproof or something. And I don't think he should be punished for not following the plan.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 13 2011 05:10 GMT

#786

On January 13 2011 13:34 LSB wrote:
This is an important question. HaploPaithan, are you the doctor?

I am not a doctor.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 13 2011 05:11 GMT

#787

Thank you Aidnai. I appreciate the save. =]

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 13 2011 05:36 GMT

#791

It would seem there are either 2 SKs in this game or the JOAT used his kill last night. I think it is safe to say that CPR went after Jackal.
It would be nice to know if JOAT is out there and if he did attempt a kill last night.

I don't really believe there is a JOAT in the game, unless a mafia or the SK picked up that role. I personally think there are 2 SKs. I don't really have any evidence for that. I just think its more likely. I am curious as to why I was targeted though, and will likely never find out until the end of the game.

There is a potential for me to be targeted again tonight, so if a doctor would be willing to guard me, I'd appreciate it, however the doctor should probably do whatever he thinks, or the town thinks, is best.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 13 2011 05:46 GMT

#795

I fucking suck at writing. The format of that last post looks stupid as shit.

On January 13 2011 14:33 Kenpachi wrote:
I suggested the possibility of 2 SKs in the beginning of the thread and it was brushed off. BTW, i want CC to take day vig and kill me now before this gets out of hands..

It certainly seems possible now that there is at least some evidence pointing towards that fact.

I don't see why either a mafia aligned or town aligned player would want to waste their day vig on you.

I think you should reveal what your role is now. You're most likely going to die via lynch today or cpr/vig tonight. We'll find out then anyways, so you might as well let us know now. I personally believed that you were JOAT and just lying about it so that you wouldn't be targeted by a night action. But now that you're asking for death I'm not so sure. Perhaps you really are mafia.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 13 2011 05:53 GMT

#797

Kenpachi
Why did you think godfather was so important that you had to pick it so early?

LSB, You were supposed to pick up Godfather. Why did you not report that it was taken? You're the one that suggested the pick list. You also suggested that everyone should report if they didn't get their assigned role. You didn't do this as far as I know.

FoS on LSB.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 13 2011 06:19 GMT

#805

On January 13 2011 15:02 kitaman27 wrote:

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Let me get this straight. You are a town godfather, yet you request the day vig hit, which would prevent you from using your "town" kp after lynch?

In his defense, it day vig did kill him, it would prevent our most likely mafia or SK aligned CC from using the ability on someone that has a better town ability.

Can a town GF do that? That's pretty neat if they can. And after re-reading it, it doesn't say that you can't.

Even with the ability to kill someone that lynched him, I don't think we should be lynching him now. We gain a small amount of info in killing him and then we get to kill one other person, but from a smaller pool of people. Scum keeps some of there players from voting for him, and then we have to choose a player to kill, we could potentially end up killing someone we don't really want to kill. And then if he actually is mafia, he is gonna end up killing a townie(which could potentially be a fair trade).
I think we can get some analysis done during the day and pick a better choice than Kenpachi.

I think its most likely that Deconduo is CC with CPR as another mafia lower on the list. Its probably best to lynch him. Its lets us know how big of a threat CPR really is. As well as most likely killing a scum.
##Vote Deconduo

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 13 2011 06:19 GMT

#806

EBWOP:
##Vote Deconduo
Not sure if it actually matters.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 13 2011 06:31 GMT

#809

On January 13 2011 15:07 LSB wrote:
I response to Aidnai's question about me being godfather I replied

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I drafted Godfather and flipped Vanilla instead. However I did not say anything

Firstly, it would cause unessisary cofustion for the town
Secondly, it would deny the godfather fakeclaim against DT checks. Once I let loose that the godfather is wild, all mafia will claim godfather once the DT checks them.
Lastly, I suspected some other townie tried to deny the role (because in reality, the godfather isn't that benificial to the mafia), so I kept silent so that I could vertify a godfather claim.

Well that leaves deconduo
Unovte
Vote Deconduo

It seems kind of convenient for you to be able to say that. The logic behind it isn't wrong, but you could just as easily lie about it after the fact and no one can really argue it.

I don't really have anything concrete on you at the moment, but I do have a general bad feeling about you. While that's certainly not enough to try to lynch you, I will remain wary of you, and suggest that others do the same.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 13 2011 22:50 GMT

#902

On January 14 2011 06:48 aidnai wrote:
Anyone else think BC is scum? I'd rather have deconduo use his shot on BC than cubed, to be honest. I really think cubed is a doctor, and most likely town since I can't think of why a scum/sk would want that role.

BC on the other hand was awfully quiet for like three days, and now he jumps in to spam FOS's everywhere (so far kenpachi, cubed, and now LSB).

Cubed is giving me some pretty bad vibes. But I have to agree with you about BC. I'm quite suspicious of him.

All in all a bunch of shit happened today. I'm still trying to work it all out.

HaploPaithan

United States100 Posts

January 14 2011 02:50 GMT

#932

In light of recent posts by various players along with my doubts of LSB earlier I'll go ahead and do this.
##Unvote: Deconduo
##Vote: BloodyC0bbler

I'll go ahead and put my DayVig vote towards LSB.

My doubts about LSB can be summed up by everything that's been said recently. I feel LSB's death should go before BC because we get more info from LSB's death as well as my belief that he is more likely not town than BC. LSB has posted more and has been more aggressive than BC, so we can get more from an analysis of his previous posts than from BCs. I'd like to the get the most information as soon as possible.

I also have to agree with the general consensus about BC and I don't think he should survive.

Next off I absolutely don't think we should be letting Deconduo live. However I'll let it slide for the day since he is doing us a favor if/when he uses DayVig. We can finally be absolutely certain that Kenpachi isn't CC. Plus we get to control his night kill if he wants to continue to live.

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