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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 10 2011 03:42 GMT
#402
I could care less about your crooked finger of suspicion. God knows what other places you've stuck that finger into...
Yes, I think Mafia is stupid. We have plenty of good candidates, don't you think? Oh, never mind.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 10 2011 03:50 GMT
#405
On January 10 2011 12:48 HaploPaithan wrote:
Sorry, what does FoS stand for?


Oh hey, I found another one that doesn't read!
Read the first sentence of the post above you.
Hell, even Google takes about like 10 seconds.

The more I reread my post, the more I agree with myself.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 10 2011 05:30 GMT
#420
On January 10 2011 13:02 HaploPaithan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 12:50 Fishball wrote:
On January 10 2011 12:48 HaploPaithan wrote:
Sorry, what does FoS stand for?


Oh hey, I found another one that doesn't read!
Read the first sentence of the post above you.
Hell, even Google takes about like 10 seconds.

The more I reread my post, the more I agree with myself.

No need to be so rude about it. I read posts. Sorry if I'm not looking for an what an acronym stands for in every post I read.
I did google it and did not see an answer that made much sense to me. FoS stands for many things that are more popular than finger of suspicion.


Hey, you can take it any way you want. That reply was meant in the most jolly way ever.
All you needed to do is type in "fos mafia" in google, and click the first link. Ja?

On January 10 2011 13:44 Misder wrote:
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On January 10 2011 13:26 HaploPaithan wrote:
For the same reason no one liked LSB's plan. It lets scum know where the roles to target are.

I guess, but if you didn't get the role, wouldn't it help the town to figure out who took it and didn't follow the plan?


I'm with HaploPaithan here. Your logic just makes me think more and more that you are red. Hey BC, you should tell your muscles to stay low.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 10 2011 15:22 GMT
#431
On January 11 2011 00:03 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 23:12 deconduo wrote:
Yeah, it was a wrong role PM. panic over lol.

Can you ask permission for Ace to confirm that he sent you he wrong role PM?


He gets first pick, he can pick any role. It is impossible for him "not able to get the role he wanted".

It only makes sense that Ace sent in the wrong PM, or else deconduo would be an instant first kill target for me.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 10 2011 18:27 GMT
#435
On January 11 2011 02:42 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 00:22 Fishball wrote:
On January 11 2011 00:03 LSB wrote:
On January 10 2011 23:12 deconduo wrote:
Yeah, it was a wrong role PM. panic over lol.

Can you ask permission for Ace to confirm that he sent you he wrong role PM?


He gets first pick, he can pick any role. It is impossible for him "not able to get the role he wanted".

It only makes sense that Ace sent in the wrong PM, or else deconduo would be an instant first kill target for me.

Exactly. That what I am wondering. Is this a scum slip, or actually a mistake on the part of Ace


What I meant is, it's safe to assume it was a PM error.
Or else it would just further support the following.

On January 10 2011 12:14 Misder wrote:
And really- you think that mafia would be that stupid and be that obvious?

On January 10 2011 12:42 Fishball wrote:
Yes, I think Mafia is stupid. We have plenty of good candidates, don't you think?


But yes, it would be nice for Ace to clarify.
I'm all for surprises and stupidity!
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 10 2011 18:30 GMT
#437
On January 11 2011 02:43 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 01:13 Pigsquirrel wrote:
Will we know how people died at night, for example from gunshot or defibrillator? Or is that what Ace meant by no clues? Because if we do get to know stuff like that it will basically nullify CPR doc as he absolutely will not be able to use his power without getting lynched the next day.

Also, FoS on decon until ace confirms that he got wrong role/other mistake.

I don't believe so. But we do know that there are only 2 KP roles the first night (Mafia and SK), so if three KP worth of people are killed/hit, we would know that something was wrong.


We don't know how many SK's is/are in the game.
It's safe to assume there is at least 1, maximum 2 (pushing it), or else this game would just go nuts.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 10 2011 18:30 GMT
#438
On January 11 2011 03:29 Ace wrote:
I'm not going to clarify anything.


I support this message.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 10 2011 19:41 GMT
#441
Where the hell is everyone.
I'm on my lunch break and am bored as hell.
Only Mafiosos posted so far huh?
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 10 2011 21:55 GMT
#447
On January 11 2011 06:49 Beneather wrote:
HaploPaithan you have to have reasons on why we have you can't just blindly say something with out any reason to back up your statement. That's just basically 1 line spamming.

Why do we have to worry about CopyCat he will only copycat someone that has a good role and that he knows it for sure or he'll be just wasting his powers blindly and might get some bad role or something. The only time CopyCat will work is if people start claiming and he can just copycat that role if it's good also it would be good to see if their lying about their role. It really can be used as a Detective tool as well.

So what are you thinking that CopyCat is a bad role ?


What the eff are you smoking?
Copy Cat cannot choose who's role to copy.

Hey, I caught another Derp Mafia!
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 10 2011 22:05 GMT
#451
On January 11 2011 07:00 aidnai wrote:
dumb=/=scum fishball


WHAT?
K, going emo.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 10 2011 22:57 GMT
#456
On January 11 2011 07:26 LayOffRage wrote:
Fishball is the traitor.


Oh... I'm also many things... in bed...


On January 11 2011 07:42 LSB wrote:
Layoffrage, did you select the traitor role and not get it?


Seems like there is more than that.
He is 9th on the list, so if he picked Traitor and didn't get it, there are 8 possible candidates that could be Traitor.
However, out of the blue, he pin-pointed me.

I'm shedding tears of joy T_T
This is what I call a Mafia game.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 10 2011 23:42 GMT
#461
On January 11 2011 08:30 bumatlarge wrote:
I know you usually play unique fish ball but this seems a little over the top. I have suspicions of you as traitor, but with people seeming to play subpar this game I can't really blame you if you are town.

I like aidnai a possible candidate for the first lynch, as you have made a point. His counterpart jumbo seems to have a functional grasp of pyp, made a very nice effort on his plan. I think it's rare for a newer player to kinda blast those protown spiels as scum. I think its to early to call anything on RoL. I think aidnai would prove to be an informative lynch.

I think we should have more drama though. I'll enjoy seeing what deconduo says, and what that awful divinek is going to try to get away with. I don't think he's SK cause he isn't mouthing off yet, so he's probably mafia, and he has an experienced teammate who is telling him to stfu lol scrub.


I'm actually amazed all these different personalities I'm pulling off lately in different games. I think I need to see a psychiatrist soon, lol.

Seriously though, I only decided to join the game when BC joined. I was actually sincere when I said "There is a good chance BC is red if I am Town", vice versa. I've been through enough games where it gets flat out frustrating. Since I joined this time, I want to be entertained. I wish more of you guys would start posting more, and start some action.

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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 11 2011 01:09 GMT
#474
On January 11 2011 09:43 Eiii wrote:
Fish if you're a master of switching personalities or whatever, could you try and make this one a bit more useful as the game goes on? No offense, but town has lost the last two games I've played because of inciteful, spammy posters that basically just distracted them and gave a bunch of false leads.

I mean, for now it at least gets people posting because there isn't a ton of information to discuss, but the CPR role issue still needs to be resolved, and no one's stepped up to say that their role wasn't available so it looks like everyone with an important role either got it or didn't follow the plan at all.

...until we get some night actions in though, I don't really know what to do.


"Personalities" is just a metaphor. I choose not to take this game too seriously, and it will remain this way. That doesn't mean I've given up or just purely screwing around. You don't need to tell me about "town". I've seen empires burn down. Ok, that might be over-exaggerating it.

Anyways, I've done enough finger pointing in the last 24 hours. The ball is finally starting to roll so I'm happy with that. Still waiting for our Irish boy deconduo to pop by though.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 11 2011 01:11 GMT
#475
On January 11 2011 10:04 deconduo wrote:
Just to clarify, I asked for CPR and was given Copy Cat. This has now been rectified. Feel free to rolecheck me tonight, or I can use my power on someone you guys think is scum. (Like an extra lynch as was suggested.)

Of course, just because I can prove I'm CPR doesn't clear me, but do you really think a mafia would create this much of a clusterfuck?


Ah, just missed your post when I was typing.
I, for one believe you picked CPR, and got CPR.
It really doesn't make sense to make a fuss out of this, unless you're suicidal, really...
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 11 2011 01:24 GMT
#478
On January 11 2011 10:17 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2011 15:20 LSB wrote:
traitor is suicide, as the traitor wins with the mafia.


Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 10:11 Fishball wrote:
It really doesn't make sense to make a fuss out of this, unless you're suicidal, really...


Coincidence? Or trying to draw attention?


Wowzers

First of all, I don't know what LSB meant by Traitor is suicide. Traitor is not a Village Idiot. He doesn't win if he die.

Secondly, I was referring to deconduo, that him telling a lie of not getting the CPR, does not benefit him in anyway, and is purely suicidal if he choose to do so.

So basically, you're taking the word "suicide" out of context from two distinctively different posts and calling it a "clue".
My face -> :O

Ok, you're the last one for today.
You're Mafia too.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 11 2011 05:23 GMT
#520
On January 11 2011 13:05 LayOffRage wrote:
My reasoning is that I attempted to pick the traitor role and it was already gone. so someone above my draft pick took it. If you read earlier fishball refused to pick any of the suggested roles which made me think he was most likely the one who took my role.

I was very sadface


Ah, so you finally decided to post some "reason" regarding your accusation other than that one liner. To be honest, it was almost as good as my scum hunting skills.

Now for Fishball's original ask-yourself-a-question time.

For my draft pick, I was assigned Medic. If I were to pick Traitor, why would I want to announce that I would pick another role before hand? Would it not be better if I did it secretly? Keep in mind, the most convenient way for the Traitor to get recruited is to be hit by the Mafia. If I stuck with the plan, as a medic, wouldn't that increase the chances of me getting hit thus getting recruited? My play thus far has been fairly vocal. Radical accusations, yes, but not entirely without reason. Look at one of those main candidates for lynch, aidnai; Who was the first one to bring him up? BC haven't posted, misder submerged after a brief counter attack, etc.. From what I've seen in the past 24 hours, I've received rather negative reception from the town. Now why would the Mafia want to hit or use their powers on a target like me, a self proclaimed non-medic player, with a small target on top of his head? If I were the Traitor, this serves me no good.

In PYP2, I was Mafia, and was able to use the accusation of a "potential Traitor" to direct a lot of Town's attention and their resources to hunt for this so called Traitor. We allowed the accuser to live as long as possible, thus he was not able to prove whether or not himself was the Traitor. If LayOffRage is the Traitor, and diverts the Town to hunt for said role among those 8 players, by the time we get the Traitor, it might be too late. In PYP2, I also specially told my teammates that we would refrain from hitting any of the candidates for a Traitor, to prolong the confusion as much as possible. There is no immediate gain for the Mafia at all unless its really down to the wire. In that game, Town ended up hunting for the Traitor for like 5 cycles or so.

Keep in mind, Town's main goal is to target Mafia and the SK. The Traitor should only be our third priority. Worst case scenario, the Traitor get's recruited, but the KP of the Mafia doesn't change, so it isn't exactly a huge deal like mentioned above.

Right now, I propose to lynch "LayOffRage" for three reasons.
- Eliminates the possibility that he is Traitor himself crying wolf.
- If he dies and flips Vanilla, the Copy Cat (alignment unknown) will not get any surprising powers. This also proves that there is indeed a Traitor among the top 8, and the Town should be aware.
- Eliminates the chance of losing a power role for Town, unlike other lynch targets.

If none of the above makes sense, and the Town wants to follow the footsteps of PYP2 regarding the Traitor, be my very guest. If you guys have a different plan, that's fine as well.

##Vote LayOffRage
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 11 2011 05:31 GMT
#521
Oh, seems like Bum has already brought up some of those points while I was typing.
Anyways, I'm heading to bed now. Good night.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 11 2011 14:44 GMT
#552
On January 11 2011 15:37 Misder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 14:30 Fishball wrote:
On January 10 2011 13:44 Misder wrote:
On January 10 2011 13:26 HaploPaithan wrote:
For the same reason no one liked LSB's plan. It lets scum know where the roles to target are.

I guess, but if you didn't get the role, wouldn't it help the town to figure out who took it and didn't follow the plan?


I'm with HaploPaithan here. Your logic just makes me think more and more that you are red. Hey BC, you should tell your muscles to stay low.

Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 14:23 Fishball wrote:
For my draft pick, I was assigned Medic. If I were to pick Traitor, why would I want to announce that I would pick another role before hand? Would it not be better if I did it secretly? Keep in mind, the most convenient way for the Traitor to get recruited is to be hit by the Mafia. If I stuck with the plan, as a medic, wouldn't that increase the chances of me getting hit thus getting recruited? My play thus far has been fairly vocal. Radical accusations, yes, but not entirely without reason. Look at one of those main candidates for lynch, aidnai; Who was the first one to bring him up? BC haven't posted, misder submerged after a brief counter attack, etc.. From what I've seen in the past 24 hours, I've received rather negative reception from the town. Now why would the Mafia want to hit or use their powers on a target like me, a self proclaimed non-medic player, with a small target on top of his head? If I were the Traitor, this serves me no good.

I feel an obligation to defend myself here.
1) I don't have time like you do to be able to read this forum until late at night unless on weekends, so "submerged" is not really the appropriate term. The reason why I didn't say anything after you fosed me was that I wasn't even on.
2) The reason I asked that question was basically, LSB's plan was already giving mafia all the info anyways. So naturally, if most people followed the plan, mafia would be the only ones who know who doesn't have their roles, which means that town is at a disadvantage here. I'm pretty sure I understand why people don't like it- because it gives mafia a place to target- but if mafia already knows, then theres no point is suppressing it. So what's illogical about that?
3) I still feel that your early game play is very questionable- and likely scum- as per my previous analysis
4) The reason you wanted to lynch aidnai in the first place was because of # and one post. I'm not saying that he's not scumlike- just that the reason you brought it up wasn't really analysis.
5)Also BC- you didn't even have an original reasoning- again, not saying he's not scumlike, but you didn't make it based off of not posting
6) You stated pregame that you were likely not going to follow LSB. So if you did suddenly say, I might follow it, that's suspicious in itself. You don't need to be medic to increase chances- the way you play already gives the impression that you are not town-aligned- mafia would target you. Either your town and mafia kills a veteran mafia player, or your traitor and mafia gets another member.

After reading guides, I learned that we should be focusing on scumhunting, not informative stuff so I'm going with my gut here and ##Vote Fishball


Every time your name is brought up, you re-merge. Yes I like to use that word.
1. Everyone has their own schedule. I have a full time job too. I even got myself modkilled in Insane Mafia due to unforeseen circumstances. Time is one thing. But timing on the other hand... Every time your name is brought up, poof.
2. What question? You lost me here.
3. So are my accusations. So the accused is also accusing the accuser of being scummy. Nothing new here. If you have valid points, people will follow. That's all I have to say.
4. Woah, I think you're a bit ahead of yourself here. I never once said "I wanted to lynch aidnai". I only brought him up because he was part of a picture that I had see as abnormal, no matter how minor it is. It generates discussion, and this has already been proven. Unlike some dude who doesn't have "time" and "isn't here".
5. No original reasoning? I'm not going to repeat myself for the third time. Go re-read my posts in the thread. Look at zeks, ignoring my finger pointing. If you're truly innocent you wouldn't need to worry about my ever so soft accusations. All I'm doing is throwing little rocks into the lake; It causes ripples, but sometimes tsunami happens.
6. You may have a point regarding my pre-game comment. Just keep in mind I won't know which spot I would end up as until after the draft. If you still don't get it, I've also said it before, numerous times, pre-game and during the game, that Radfield's plan in PYP2 was more viable due to a certain degree of uncertainty for drafts. Hopefully you won't need me to spill it out.

You also say my play gives the impression of not being town aligned; I have already admitted my play was unorthodox (This is a game after all, and for once, I would like to friggin enjoy it), but far from being scummy. I've already explained my motives, logic, and plan in detail, in my previous post. If you don't see any of that, even a little bit, as being "town aligned", and just counter attack me every time you see your name being brought up, I have nothing left to say. Let the Town decide.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 11 2011 14:46 GMT
#553
On January 11 2011 22:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
##vote layoffrage

Heading off to work and won't be back tonight, but LoR is the safest lynch target for today. Out of myself, fishball and him we are most likely the three most experienced players, and I know i'm town, which means at least one of fishball and him is most likely red. Out of those two, LoR has given the most reasons as why he is most likely a better lynch target.



I think you just copied and pasted from Fishball's Accusations 101 for Dummies.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
January 11 2011 19:20 GMT
#558
On January 12 2011 03:52 aidnai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 02:54 HaploPaithan wrote:
Since layoffrage and Aidnai are our two most likely targets, why don't we lynch layoffrage and then have deconduo kill off aidnai tonight. We really need to start discussing who to use CPR on tonight. Since we seem to want to kill both these players this seems to be the best solution.


Since we can't decide if any of these people are scum, let's kill them all! that way we can race towards lylo even more quickly than normal! brilliant plan.

Kitaman: jimbo already found the important fact. LayOffRage's only previous game was in smurf mafia. I'm sorry to him for bringing this fact out in the open, but seriously, that much info is not hard to come by. And yes, I know who it is from playing with him in a previous game.


Huh? It's not like it's a huge secret LayOffRage is RoL.
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