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Super new to TL. Also liked the story, it's always better when the host uses colourful language. Are we supposed to vote? I think I'll have to lurk some more before I take a wild guess. Ima be reading all yo posts brosefs. | ||
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Medic's don't know who to protect unless they personally know the other player(s) and want to ensure they stay in the game. If the medic is a new player/ doesn't know anybody they're more likely to protect themselves (or is that not allowed?). In my opinion, we should in-actives. If only so that each active player can have at least a day or 2 of contribution and can be verbally felt up for tells/contradictions. Also because it would be funny if an inactive mafia was voted out. If we do go along the lines of keeping inactives, here are my impressions so far: It seems to me that Gabriel wants to fight everybody. Honestly not a great way of uniting the townsfolk if you ask me. I'd rather keep people who aren't so difficult to talk to. You're my vote if we go along this path. Infundibulum seems to be experienced in TL mafia and so has garnered some not so avid fans. You're a blank slate to me so I have nothing against you and am quite happy to keep you in for a while longer =). | ||
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Honestly if I was a vet and mafia I would do my best to organise the town. It gives me credibility as an upstanding citizen and allow me to slay naysayers behind everyone's back. I'd be getting the best of both worlds. But definitely a vet who doesn't try to glue the people together and does the opposite is making a huge mistake. That's why I would honestly vote for gabe. Regarding the 3 votes to infundibulum (is that true?), can you please state why you're doing so, especially if it was about a previous mafia game. If it's just a personal non-mafia case just say that and I'll get it, but if he did something amazingly sinister to invoke wrath upon himself I'd really like to know. | ||
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Infund so far hasn't earned any of the votes against him as far as our discussion has progressed. And no one as of yet has made a big impression on me. And yes I'm super noob as you can tell by my post count. I really don't know anything. | ||
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I think it should be emphasised that any one of us voting for gabe could be mafia too (or people voting off infund for that matter) and with 31 players it won't be that hard to get gabe out of the hot water if we want to keep him. | ||
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Sounds pretty rough but if gabe turns out to be a villager then people have a lot of explaining to do. | ||
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Also the arguments for kenpachi/zeks are compelling. I think gabe is pretty glad that others are voting for these two so I have to ignore what gabe says honestly, for now. I'm also more curious about whether kenpachi is a mafia than gabriel is. Because kenpachi seems to be more likely mafia than gabriel at this point (im putting gabe down as a quasi helpful townie for now) I will change my vote to kenpachi. Please excuse my laziness to format the capitals/potential grammar mistakes. I came back from a party just now but my will to change vote is strong. | ||
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Also I don't like being called sheep. As soon as I have good reason to vote someone I vote. Colour me offended. | ||
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He was a pikachu who acted like mafia. Why would you even do that? Gah. The mafia know who's on their team right? You're the reason why we can't have nice things Kenpachi. He was a pikachu who made out to be mafia by mafia who knew he's always acted suss consistently in every game. I am so disappoint. | ||
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Mafia please kill him or me. Kthx. | ||
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Feel free to look at what I've said. I've mostly just been looking at what people have been saying and then briefly looked at 'analyses' of what people said if you want to save yourself some time. | ||
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On December 10 2010 23:35 Brocket wrote: Good points raised by amber. I think it can go either way as well. If Gabe gave solid arguments that were easy to follow then I would honestly have not voted for him. It's like a vote for reason. As it stands I won't be changing my vote for this day phase but I admit it was too hasty. I think it should be emphasised that any one of us voting for gabe could be mafia too (or people voting off infund for that matter) and with 31 players it won't be that hard to get gabe out of the hot water if we want to keep him. On December 11 2010 22:51 Brocket wrote: ##unvote gabriel ##vote kenpachi herpdederp.. If you look, you'll notice the 1st post was made on the 10th, the second post on the 11th. I said "as it stands". There has been a lot of discussion between both days and it changed my opinion. Get with the program dude. And I said Gabriel's outbursts in the first few hours wasn't as bad as some of the others I've read since. I don't know what you're seeing but if you read your post again and exclude your obnoxious comments it follows a logical order. Also you omitted some other posts in between too  to help take them out of context .Please, please analyse what I say more. It's very entertaining since I haven't received so much attention before. So thanks for that, although your comments are rubbish. And if you don't like my "newbie card" deal with it. I'm sub 100 posts but I can tell when people are being condescending because of their enormous e-peen. Cool cool? | ||
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Honestly the zeks/kenpachi arguments were pretty solid. Gabriel just came off as inconsistent and a little hard to follow but not as bad. The arguments against gabriel weren't as good as I first thought hence my change in vote. I'm a little suss of everybody because I don't know you well enough to see tells. This is my first time playing mafia in a forum and since I can't see your facial expressions I'm not very used to reading into every post to the letter so my general perception to tell who's scum is poor. The only thing I actively know how to do competently is to pay attention to people defending themselves from suspicion (and I'm one of those people) which usually ends in deflecting attention onto someone else or just saying they don't care/have nothing to hide. I'm more of the latter type. If I do see something strange I will say so even if it sounds like I 'contributed nothing' by repeating what got said already. | ||
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But what seems odd to me is the rule that if mew is checked by alakazam, mew will appear as alakazam. What's the point of that if there is only 1 alakazam in the game? I kind of get that gengar can appear as alakazam too. I guess that's a given that gengar will always choose to apper as alakazam.. to appear as mew? Honestly I would have just made it mew appears as mew, and gengar can appear as mew. | ||
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Tree hugger was an obvious choice for mafia to hit. Experienced players that dole out helpful advice or substantiated/logical opinions that sway votes need to be removed from the game so the townies become less productive. I don't know about the other two, I guess since kenpachi was a town then it followed that jcarl was town which confuses me as to why mafia would hit him (ken and jcarl were buddying up on gabe early day 1). Also I'm not a smurf. DoctorHelvectica can attest to that because I haven't sent him a PM like smurfs are meant to. Didn't he explicitly ask smurfs to tell him so? So my q's are both silly and genuine. When you said that my q 'the mafia know who eachother are right?' was too silly, it was meant to be rhetorical. As in, if Kenpachi knew that mafia's already knew each other then why would he act like mafia. I honestly still don't understand why he acted the way he did unless he wanted to act out for the lols and attention and get voted asap. | ||
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Zeks so far hasn't appeared to be particularly dishonest but as soon as we find reason to distrust him then he probably is mafia this game. I have an opinion about someone: Gabriel. Gabriel says that he's voting pre emptively because he may be inactive for a time, but honestly he hasn't been that helpful compared to others. I know I'm not that helpful either but from what I've been reading, I'm more suss of people who vote quickly as opposed to people who post here first to explain why. He also changed his vote to zeks which would make sense as mafia since they'd know zeks is a townie and that kenpachi was getting voted out anyway who was also a townie. Personally I believe this to be a slip up because kenpachi was actively going after Gabriel, why would Gabriel not vote Kenpachi then since FoS was focused squarely on kenpachi. I know this doesn't sound clear at all, I wish i could make a flowchart. 1. Gabriel (as mafia): 1a). Vote kenpachi: Bad idea since it gives further support that you are mafia and adds substance to kenpachi's claims against you. Don't vote him and look for some else to vote without taking any heat. Besides, Tree hugger made good claims against him and has convinced a significant number of people, he's quite likely to leave even if you don't vote for him. 1b) Vote Zeks: Blame this one, he has acted suss and has shown that he can't defend himself properly. Keep aggressively FoSing him. Either he or Kenpachi goes, but now you have a safe vote that won't make you look suss since you were the one who began making arguments against zeks. 2. Gabriel (as Townie) 2a) Vote Kenpachi: don't do this as it reiterates the same reasons as 1a), it will only make you look like a villain getting rid of someone who is accusing you. 2b) Vote Zeks: He does look suss if you take his 2-3 posts. But uh. er. Kind of random. Sure a few people agreed but only because Tree hugger and a few others said voting kenpachi/zeks was a 'fine choice'. My final point is that we know jcarl was killed. Kenpachi and jcarl were both in on Gabriel and now they're gone. Can you hear me audibly masticate on my thoughts? Segue: Honestly, can someone please tell me how many of each role is present in this game. I only know that there are 6 mafia members, that's what KPT stands for right? 6/2 = 3. | ||
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On December 13 2010 18:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: As I watched that I had these different snarky comments I was going to make but when I got to the end all I could think was "that was downright epic." Then meapak_Ziphh spontaneous explodes. Lol. | ||
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Dodge more? Please read again. I addressed you directly. Okthxbye lolol I'm darth "huge e-peen" thienan. Please, please vote for me if you believe my posts are evidence against me. I still think you're an idiot since you have so much trouble comprehending what I'm saying. Is anybody else having difficulty understanding me? | ||
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I wanted to bring this up again: My final point is that we know jcarl was killed. Kenpachi and jcarl were both in on Gabriel and now they're gone. Can you hear me audibly masticate on my thoughts?' What do you guys think? | ||
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Kenpachi and Jcarl were on the right track, Ima vote for Gabriel for day 2.Darth you can vote for me, whatever. | ||
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On December 14 2010 14:39 Gabriel wrote: - Really? How do you know Hesmyrr is town? - Did you actually read my vote and the timestamp? - How old are you? (im not kidding this is important for me). - I mean look at the underlined statement. I read your vote, you said you'd be away for possibly 30 hours so it served as a placeholder. Just read the thread bro, I'm inclined to believe Hesmyrr is town. I'm 22. A/s/l Gabe? Way to be defensive Gabe. Maybe you should stop asking what my age is and try change my mind. I've already stated my reasons why I'm voting against you, deal with it. And I mean literally deal with it. | ||
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On December 14 2010 14:52 Infundibulum wrote: I think he's telling the truth, but i dunno why Hesmyrr had to tell us his role. I mean all that does is give the mafia extra information - they know now that 1 vet is down a life and whoever replaces Hesmyrr can be hit and killed (barring medic of course). All he had to say was "I took the bomb hit," and it tells us what we need to know. I'm really puzzled by the roleclaim part of it. I agree that he revealed more than he had to but since nobody has bothered to state they took the hit it's better than nothing. And besides that mafia already hit him once and they know they hit the blue vet, they're better off killing off others now that they've ruled out 1 electrode and 1 cloyster, don't you agree? In Hesmyrr's interests, it's likely that he'll stay in the game now that mafia has lost interest in him (why kill a dude twice, he's just a normal pikachu now) and also there's no reason for town to lynch him. Mafia's would be happy lynching him I suppose to conserve KPT. People putting pressure on Hesmyrr: Gabe primarily, and others have somehow agreed with him. I honestly don't think Hesmyrr has earned suspicion. | ||
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Gabriel: You're voting zeks. Your original reason was because he acted relatively inactive so is suspicious. That was your strongest argument. It's now void. Good luck getting people to agree with you now. You originally voted for Hesmyrr. You have only recently read the thread with the sufficient degree of comprehension to make the reasonable assumption that he is a townie. Congratulations, but your first vote on Hesmyrr now looks random and out of place and even winding back to when you posted that vote, it still didn't make sense. You have not changed at all since the start of the day 1 and frankly your shaky arguments and even worse counter arguments do not sit well with me. Let's see if you can take it 'like a man, like a warrior' again and see how much dust you can stand today. @ Darth "Huge epeen" ThienAn. You have had sufficient time to contemplate my posts. You've scrutinised my posts on two seperate occasions. I can tell you and everybody a simple fact . If you keep aggressively focusing on one person then that's all that your posts become. Which means it is easy to not give away anything about yourself. So you are at an easy position picking apart everything I say. Despite your huge e-peen, you still have not voted against me. Since you haven't backed up your words with action, you are not as big as you think, friend Darth-Thien-An. I've already told me that what I post is as clear as I can make it. Nobody apart from yourself and Gabe have failed to understand me. | ||
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If you think Gabriel has the persuasive pull on us townies, you'd better hope he can pick out scum. But seeing as he's just revenge-voting zeks he's hardly worth listening to. Don't get me wrong, if you have a good, logical point then I will praise you for it and that goes for everyone who contributes. But so far only tree hugger had made a truly positive impression on me, so much so that I changed my vote from gabe to kenpachi on day 1. It's going to take the same amount of intelligent posting to get me to change my gabe vote to someone else. It's an open invitation gabe, sell me something. | ||
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The only other thing that was off about zeks was when he said he was joining games until he was mafia, and after this game he joined harry potter mafia. That's literally all that I know about zeks. | ||
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I could be a blue. Or a townie pretending to be a blue. Would it matter too much to the town if I was killed off by mafia? I sort of think of it as taking one for the team so the blues can get a night off. I could be mafia. I think I'd like to be just a koffing. I wouldn't know who to sleep as a weezing. I talk a lot as you can see but I try to be productive without any hard evidence (then again who does?). As far as mewtwo is concerned, he's just a wild card that confuses the night attacks and he's more likely to kill townies than mafia the first few nights until our numbers sufficiently dwindle. Sad but true. | ||
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I'm more suss of amber and d3 then I am of shockey. Does anybody else think shockey is scummy? Also I feel like I'm being an elephant in a crowded room. I'll try post less so people can talk more freely. I won't bite unless you're darththienan (yeh, don't screw with me). | ||
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dinmsab wanted people to talk about blue's roles. I just offered my opinion. It's obviously not helpful so it kind of illustrates how dumb it is to talk about what blues should do when blues already should know what they're doing as opposed to discussing "bs accusations". Speaking of confusing and being generally unproductive, d3 please explain why you're voting shockey. Pretty please? | ||
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You want information? I'm a pikachu. There I said it. I'm ashamed of it and insecure so I cover it up with my big posts and feigned intelligent banter. I'm going curl up and cry now and wish raichu will hold me tightly and tell me everything's okay in his rough bad boy yet brotherly comforting voice. Think I'm holding back? Yeh right. | ||
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On December 15 2010 05:44 GGQ wrote: Bringing this up again because people keep saying things like "we don't know for sure about zeks" or "he's suspicious so we'll keep an eye on him" etc. That doesn't make any sense. Anyone who isn't voting zeks today is saying that they think he's a pikachu who can't add small numbers together when his game life is in the balance. It seems far more likely to me that he's a TR who went for a gambit to appear innocent because he knew Kenpachi would flip green and he was next on the list. He was the best lynch yesterday and he's the best lynch today. Voting zeks. Out from left field. I didn't see GGQ coming. I agree zeks would have been voted out day 1 because of kenpachi. Honestly if Gabriel wasn't here I'd vote him too. But I've already said kenpachi and jcarl lynched and dead as townies and gabriel's strong motive to FoS zeks to survive confound the zeks-is-scum argument. I want to see gabriel's identity, since he's failed to convince me from day 1 and the only recourse is by lynch. I am set on voting gabriel because I think he's mafia. I appreciate the people so far who voted with me for day 2 because that means they've read my posts and thought 'hey that Brocket dude is pretty handsome and makes a lot of sense'. If for some outlandish reason I am delirious and Gabe turns out to be townie, I invite suspicion upon myself and throw myself onto the sword. I will vote myself day 3 because I would know that nothing I said was productive at all and I would feel guilty that I got Gabe the 'helpful' townie lynched. But until that happens, it's vote 1 gabe. Vote him dead. | ||
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If you want shockey out, wait till day 3 voting please, you're not helping the town cause. Way too soon and way too shallow of an argument. I am not satisfied with amber or d3's (lol) arguments. LSB, shockey is implying amber and d3 appear to be working together.Which I agree with. But I'm saving that for the next day assuming I don't die night 2. Btw please look more on amber+d3 if I die night 2. | ||
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This kind of evens out you going on shockey bandwagon LSB. This is a great point and I say I didn't even think of it. But I'm assuming TR are too stupid to even think of something like this. Nonetheless this discredits the Gabe vote. I'm sticking to my guns though. As I just said gabe/zeks are both good votes. Voting shockeyy now in the final hours of day 2 voting is a huge mistake, we simply haven't discussed enough about him yet. It's just a mixture of spontaneous and bandwagon which are key ingredients for suspicious activity and failure. | ||
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You're not doing yourself a favour voting amber. We can pursue that discussion at a later date. Vote zeks or Gabe. @ people voting shockey: I suggest you rethink your votes, Kav is right. In the town's interests, we do not need a 3rd bandwagon. Right now, I'm directly addressing LSB, amber and d3. Nobody else is buying it. | ||
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I've never supported Zeks, I only suggested Gabe was a higher priority because there is evidence (set up or otherwise) pointing against him. I'll thrown in an extra. Whether zeks or gabe gets voted out as townie, I'll vote myself day 3. No worries. | ||
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It was mostly for dramatic effect. I'm just saying I don't care if I get voted off as long as I know gabe is a townie or a mafia. There is just too much evidence against him with the events transpiring from night 1 combined with his voting process both day 1 and day 2 for me to avoid FoS on gabe. | ||
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People springing to mind: LSB (really quick change vote from gabe to shockey and muddied the anti gabe arguments, didn't offer much on zeks even though zeks earned compelling arguments). Oceania &Seraph (said to death, lack of posts and jumping on teh wagon. I don't think much about posters like these but even I noticed a lack of posts from Oceania and Seraph. It's way too easy to sit back and vote, you got to get in the game if you want to stay). Amber (really quick on voting Shockeyy, way too quick especially when we were already divided about zeks and gabriel. d3 has distanced himself from you and i think lsb will plan to as well.) But I'm going to let other people talk now. I feel like my posts have made some people shy away from posting their ideas/opinions which isn't good. Please post something you think has happened or looks strange. As far as me voting myself: I will vote myself if suspicion falls on me and you guys want to confirm I'm a townie. I already said that I believed zeks/gabe were mafia and I'm already half wrong. | ||
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Lurk mode ON. | ||
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Also hesmyrr was replaced by pandain right? So essentially the vet took two hits. Maybe the 1st time was an explosion and this time by mafia. Also d3 claims to take the 4th hit. How would you know? If a medic protects you from an attack, would you be notified? Doubtful. I'm guessing d3 is most likely mewtwo. At this stage mewtwo would do well to eliminate would be mafias now since townie death rate is way too high. Also Amber did some scummy behaviour creating a 3rd quick wagon when the day was ending. I just didn't think it was good play. Can the real towns people not do this in the future? Should we continue discussion Shockey? Gabe has missed the votes twice. He has posted much less frequently since day 1 maybe because I've been pretty hard on him. But I'm taking it as scum behaviour. Post some more gabe. | ||
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DCLXVI even bought attention to himself about the two voters against him being eliminated via analysing insanious. So it's a sign of honesty but the fact is still suss. I'm still not trusting Gabe because of kenpachi+ jcarl. d3 hasn't been very consistent, that much is true. Why is it that townies seem to crumble when they are accused, you've got nothing to hide, don't make things worse by blurting out names and getting unnecessarily offended by accusation. | ||
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Yeh it's going to happen. Just figure out who is suss again? I'm a bit uneasy about DC, sure he's been helpful but he had 2 accusers that got eliminated. Gabe also has had his accusers lynched (apart from me) and escaped the noose twice. There was LSB who said mafia may set GAbe up. But really not likely. Maybe they can make it more obvious that they're trying hard to set up gabe if they kill me night 2. Then maybe gabe is townie after all via LSB's logic. Do you really buy that? | ||
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On December 17 2010 16:32 DCLXVI wrote: Umm, I am a bit confused brocket. How did you go from this post To this: If I am reading this right you say in the first post I look a little more innocent and gabe looks guilty, then you completely flip and say the opposite? Do you have reasons for doing so? I didn't say you were off the hook DC. I was implying that since I don't trust gabe I also don't trust you in the 1st quote. There is no flipping and no 'little more' innocent. You're both suss. Get my point? | ||
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EVENTS that townies should give a shit about: D3 claims to be mewtwo. Town is COOL with this. WE LOVE m2. Why? Because if townies lose then m2 loses at this stage since zero mafia are dead. Also Mafia have zero ways of killing m2 except by vote. Look at this. LOOK AT IT. d3_crescentia DCLXVI Kavdragon Eiii BrownBear deconduo You must vote one of these guys. Any of them. Shockeyy could be the 6th but not sure. My suggestion is, hop onto the god damn DC wagon or else I'm going to suss you out next, got it? ##VOTE double lynch. ##Vote DCLXVI. You KNOW it makes sense. Make the mafia fail in killing m2, kill a mafia, get 2 lynches for next day. Why the hell would you NOT do it and spread our votes between shockeyy, gabe, LSB. What the fuck? Get with the program pikachus. HRRRRRRNNNGGGGHHH. | ||
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I'm not sure about shockeyy but DC and gabe have been suss. Don't you think there's sufficient evidence against DC too? It makes no sense voting d3 if we know he took the hit. If he's not a vet he's mewtwo. In either case the mafia want to save up a night kill by lynching him. Does it not make sense then to avoid that by lynching? We can use a mewtwo. Kind of sad if shockey turns out to be a medic but if you are still compelled go ahead and vote him. I'd rather see shockeyy go than d3 at this point. My vote is still on DC. | ||
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Gabe is pretty dirty, LSB is getting dirtier each post. I duno about Infund yet because he doesn't post enough. All i know is LSB was the first one to think I was suss, Gabe jumps on that and agrees. Infund also randomly agrees. Come at me, bro. | ||
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Shock has reacted by saying he's medic. That's up to you if believe him. I'm sticking with DC. My picks are with DC or gabe, they both have eliminated their accusers in the past in this very game. I still am keen on lynching gabe in the future. Will this get me killed? Probably. But then I can be like a martyr so you can go hunt their asses down later. | ||
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if you saved d3 then d3 wouldn't know he was hit or saved by you would he? d3 said, shockey said. What's going on here? | ||
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Night 3. 2 man enter. 1 man leave. Make it so Shockey+ d3, make it so. | ||
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I said DC was mafia for 2 reasons. He had 2 previous accusers killed off and he started the d3 bandwagon. Yet somehow it's my fault for his actions? What? Is it getting through that accusers of DC in previous nights have been killed? 2 of them? Gabe you were always suss. Now you're saying I don't make any sense? Please tell me how I did not make sense when I said d3 was m2 and we wanted to keep him? I voted dc and encouraged people to do so for the reason I just gave at the top of this post. Y'know, the same reason you're suss? Kenpachi, jcarl, dodged votes 2 days in a row. Ring a bell gabe? Tell me again, do I not make sense? I've always used logic in every single god damn post I made. I already said I wasn't that sold on shockey as opposed to DC but I encouraged DC and shockey votes. I didn't entirely buy into the medic call either, I stuck with Dc. You can check my post in page 44 "@ LSB: I'm not sure about shockeyy but DC and gabe have been suss. Don't you think there's sufficient evidence against DC too? It makes no sense voting d3 if we know he took the hit. If he's not a vet he's mewtwo. In either case the mafia want to save up a night kill by lynching him. Does it not make sense then to avoid that by lynching? We can use a mewtwo. Kind of sad if shockey turns out to be a medic but if you are still compelled go ahead and vote him. I'd rather see shockeyy go than d3 at this point. My vote is still on DC." DC if you think I'm random accusing for no reason you then you've just ignored every goddamn post I've typed since you did your 'analysis'. People agreed with my logical reasoning, deal with it. And gabe. fucking lol. Tell you what, I'll give you another post to criticise me, properly this time, before I start again with you. Try put some thought into it. I'm 22 by the way in case you needed that info again. | ||
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On December 18 2010 14:44 Gabriel wrote: @Brocket: Since you dont make any sense at all im going to ask you a very easy question: How do you feel about lynching dimnsab tomorrow? He has been an actual lurker all game long and seems to be interested into let the game just go as long as he is alive. Do you think he is mafia? Brocket will think on this. And immediately get back to you by saying meh. He's not a bad vote. I'm pretty bad on inactives since for me it comes down to pot luck. Go for it, but I still don't think din is as scummy like as you or DC. | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:37 Insanious wrote: Starting this post to help town while I sleep (was out all day too sorry, will come back and post more tomorrow I promise... well untill tomorrow night when I have to leave, but for like 10 hours during the day... ya I'm busy now.) Anyway, will come back and post more later, but just want to start with this... I want to FoS Brocket... for a single reason, since page 30 (when d3 FoS'd Shockeyy), Brocket was been trying to diffuse the vote and move votes onto Gabriel. Brocket did not out right try to defend Shockeyy at all at the end, but simply responded to every attack on Shockeyy with another post saying "I don't think Shockeyy is mafia, but Gabriel...." As well, Brocket FoS'd seraph and LSB once during his last 11 posts (which are how many times he tried to move the votes from Shockeyy onto Gabriel). - - - - Now post analysis of Shockeyy's posts have show a few things: - LSB = Town (obviously) - Gabriel = Town (less obviously, but Shockeyy was one of the first to bandwagon gabriel, constantly tried to kill gabriel, and gabriel was one of the first to vote for Shockeyy) - Seraph = Town (Seraph was the 3rd person to publicly post they were voting for Shockeyy, who is mafia. IF Seraph was mafia he would of switched his vote off of Shockeyy at the end to try and save his mafia buddy.) Please note, that Brocket FoS'd these three players multiple times, the ones that started the FoS on Shockeyy. - - - - To not forget about d3, Brocket also FoS'd D3 a lot until D3 revealed he was mewtwo, at which point Brocket dropped his FoS on D3. - - - - Other FoS DCLXVI, if Brocket turns up red, then DCLXVI = town. - - - - - This is just a bit of analysis I did post death, if anyone wants to know how I got to these conclusions I will post what posts these reactions come from. Because if you get killed then it was obviously me. /rollseyes. Sure you can go ahead and vote me if it makes you feel better. Apparently I've been making zero sense whatsoever. Apparently it's logical to conclude if I'm read then DC is town. 100% guaranteed right? Shockey turning up red doesn't invalidate ANY of my points. I just didn't prioritise him as highly. By that logic if I turn up green that makes Gabe and DCI red? Then fucking do it bro, lynch me. Sounds like a good trade if you believe it's true. Even better, I will agree with the gabetard and ask d3/the real mewtwo to please stand up and flip me. Be a man and do it. | ||
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Brocket
Australia192 Posts
On December 19 2010 01:43 LSB wrote: There goes my theory about tube... x.x The key issue is that the mafia was actively trying to redirect the lynch off of Shockeyy. There are three ways they could do this 1) Stay low and just vote for themselves (what Oceanic did) 2) Place their votes on D3 and hope to get him lynched (This is incredibly dumb) 3) Attempt to redirect the lynch to DCXLIV Now. How would we know if the lynch was attempted to be redirected to DCXLIV? The key point is how the DCXLIV pushers dealt with the Shockeyy issue. Mafia would just completely ignore Shockeyy to try to not tie themselves with them, or downplay the issue. (See how Pandain tried to downplay Coagulation and focus on Glasse in don't loose your village) Now lets apply this to see if it fits Brocket. Firstly, his main argument against lynching shockey Day 2 was that there "was not enough information". This is clearly false, I had done the full analysis. Comprehensive post analysis, and also previous game analysis. In addition, Brocket does not offer a reason why the shockeyy lynch was premature, he just assumed it. + Show Spoiler + On December 15 2010 06:06 Brocket wrote: I think shockeyy and amber haven't posted enough to earn a position to be voted. The shockeyy bandwagon does not amuse me and I am disappoint in LSB. In tree hugger fashion: Gabriel or zeks are good votes and are the only votes that should matter because those two have been discussed 'extensively'. If you want shockey out, wait till day 3 voting please, you're not helping the town cause. Way too soon and way too shallow of an argument. I am not satisfied with amber or d3's (lol) arguments. LSB, shockey is implying amber and d3 appear to be working together.Which I agree with. But I'm saving that for the next day assuming I don't die night 2. Btw please look more on amber+d3 if I die night 2. On December 15 2010 06:12 Brocket wrote: "As for Voting Gabriel. I found it very strange that Jcarlson and Meapak died. On the other hand, this could be a great way to make Gabriel seem even more suspicious." This kind of evens out you going on shockey bandwagon LSB. This is a great point and I say I didn't even think of it. But I'm assuming TR are too stupid to even think of something like this. Nonetheless this discredits the Gabe vote. I'm sticking to my guns though. As I just said gabe/zeks are both good votes. Voting shockeyy now in the final hours of day 2 voting is a huge mistake, we simply haven't discussed enough about him yet. It's just a mixture of spontaneous and bandwagon which are key ingredients for suspicious activity and failure. Now, the most important post I discovered is this @LSB Planned medic claim much? Brocket's key defense of Shockeyy was that he could be medic. No one says could be medic. People say possible blue. There was no way Brocket would know that Shockeyy would be claiming medic, unless he planned it with Shockeyy beforehand. All this analysis must be doing your head in bro. He claimed medic before I posted that. Just. Fucking. Check it. You didn't do a analysis on shockeyy when I said it was too early. Amber and d3 were on shockeyy and you just agreed, and then I posted that. Zero analysis on your part. Look it up. Look at the god damn time stamp on my god damn post you god damn mook. What the hell is the point of analysing when you are so shit at it? Damn man, none of anything you just said in this quote made sense if you just look at YOUR posts before MY posts. Anyway, I told you. I'm not a smurf. This is my first game on TL Mafia. If I sound like I'm charming and persuasive that's just sheer personality shining through. I don't have any hidden information. I don't know what the fuck you're seeing in my posts when clearly they're in response to posts I actually read. | ||
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Brocket
Australia192 Posts
I just said it'll be unfortunate if shockey turned up medic after he claimed medic. I didn't ever say I believed him. Seriously quote me. Please. And when did I defend Shockey? , I told you guys to go ahead to vote Shockey, it's even in the damn post you quoted me saying. I personally chose DC because like gabe he has gone under the radar due to shit storms. I still think DC is scummy. Am I not allowed to think that when I have said multiple times that DC eliminated people accusing him and I thought he was a scummy target for eliminating his targets and trying to get rid of m2. Am I not right in saying if d3 is mewtwo then we can use him as townie? He gave up the game when he admitted it. He can't win until more mafia are dead. Does it not make sense then for mafia to use our day to lynch d3? D3 can't be killed unless it's a lynch. Why is it suspect if I want d3 to live a little longer? Again, tell me if I defended shockey or if I believed him. You won't find a quote because I sure as hell didn't say it. Either you've gone overboard with analyses or you're just scum trying to knock out a townie that you see as a threat LSB. I called you out on the shockey bandwagon. I told everybody that it was a random jump LSB. You didn't have analyses that time, there was not any evidence apart from amberlight vs shockey. As far as I'm concerned I don't believe a word you say. | ||
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Brocket
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day 2: zeks+ gabe were on the chopping block. Amber+ d3+ lsb decide to vote shockey. Amber points out some things, sure. d3 just obligingly agrees and lsb quickly hops on with no in depth 'analysis'. We said that it wasn't good for the town when zeks + gabe were good enough votes and that we'd discuss shockey on the following day which you guys refused to do. We get the discussion necessary for shockey and we reach a suitable conclusion day 3. I stuck by my guns and I still stand by my vote on DC and hold residual suspicion on gabe. I also stand by my decision to keep d3. That's all I've done up to this point since day 2 and day 3. Tell me now if I've done anything wrong. | ||
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Brocket
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Major Assumption. DCXLIV is green Way to confirm without killing DCXLIV: If Brocket is red, this could be an easy way to confirm. Wow. Let's go ahead and sweeten the deal. If I get lynched. And I'm red. That must make you green too? And also gabe as well? Guaranteed right? Because I'm a nasty mafia gunning for you guys. Can someone not me or lsb tell me which one of us is making sense? This is madness. | ||
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good luck, fare well, au revoir. <3 | ||
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I had good reason to believe gabe and dc were mafia and LSB just went full retard trying to pick apart what I said when I made complete sense. And Gabe is just too immature. Never go full retard. I think your indecisions prompted d3 to kill me, or perhaps DC. This game has left a bad taste in my mouth. I think I know which games to avoid in the future by looking at who signs up. The host was okay though. It's just a case of the mafia not needing to do anything when the townies are already just bad, bad players. I think it was pretty easy to lose interest when you try to say something and the most vocal players refuse to understand the point you're making. /rage. im out. | ||
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Brocket
Australia192 Posts
Do you truly believe that? What an offhand comment. It's a blanket statement on all my posting up to now. Just no DC. Just. No. I will now fold my arms and mimic your pretentious attitude.. I died because I disapproved of LSB's sudden bandwagon on shockey. And yes, I distinctly remember it was amberlights, then d3 who got on shockey first. Apparently that made LSB dissatisfied and my subsequent posts were therefore null and void. @d3: before listening to LSb did you not read the many, many posts of me advocating to keep mewtwo as a villager? and that people voting against you were anti-town. what the fuck? Why would you be such a tool. You don't need to reply. It's an observation. I understand idiocy when I see it. Misanthropy rising. | ||
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Brocket
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Then we have your attitude issue where you seem to think you are better than us all, and you are shocked that we don' t realize that. I am shocked. And appalled. I think you still have to read some of my posts again. I think I am developing an attitude problem just by needing to respond to these kinds of posts. It's called assimilation. I know I haven't made polite posts for a while now but d3, darth, gabe, lsb and now yourself have each tried to enthusiastically pick apart what I've said with attitude. But frankly it's been pretty shameful on your part too. Really, I'm no better than any of you. Suss/scummy/ enter any made up word here. See when you say that people ignore me but pay attention to what I say, that really confuses me. Even darththien paid particular attention to when I said 'I stand by voting for gabe' and announced that for forever I am not allowed to change my vote. You get what I mean by suss. I meant suspicious. You're just full of holes DC =/. I may not be ready to turn the other cheek when I get called out, but honestly nobody here seems to handle being called out themselves very well. Actually I think LSB conceded a couple of points I made so that makes me a little happy. What really gets me is that we're not even playing a game any more. What's the point? Clearly you're not happy with my posting style. I would actually reconsider my posting if someone like Dr. H gave me a blue notice but believe it or not I have made an effort to be constructive. Again my most aggressive posts were in response to flat-out wrong accusations or offhand remarks that needed to be addressed (you know, like few that you just posted DC). | ||
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