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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
December 22 2010 05:58 GMT
#1141
I was the gengar. Node really shocked me with his DT claim, as eiii was also red. Good thing LSB wavered so much on who to pin as mafia. Though inactivity was rough on the town, that was also caused by us mafia sniping actives. I still can't believe no chansey protected tree.hugger night 1. Can we see an action list, or would that be too much work?
I also loved posting several times "oh look the mafia is going to kill the people arguing with me"... and then hitting them at night. First time as mafia and after a rough start, it went pretty well.
I can already see the ending
Brocket
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia192 Posts
December 22 2010 06:05 GMT
#1142
LSB was just stupid. There I said it.

I had good reason to believe gabe and dc were mafia and LSB just went full retard trying to pick apart what I said when I made complete sense. And Gabe is just too immature. Never go full retard. I think your indecisions prompted d3 to kill me, or perhaps DC.

This game has left a bad taste in my mouth. I think I know which games to avoid in the future by looking at who signs up. The host was okay though. It's just a case of the mafia not needing to do anything when the townies are already just bad, bad players. I think it was pretty easy to lose interest when you try to say something and the most vocal players refuse to understand the point you're making.

/rage. im out.
I don't know what happened.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 22 2010 06:16 GMT
#1143
On December 22 2010 15:05 Brocket wrote:
LSB was just stupid. There I said it.

I had good reason to believe gabe and dc were mafia and LSB just went full retard trying to pick apart what I said when I made complete sense. And Gabe is just too immature. Never go full retard. I think your indecisions prompted d3 to kill me, or perhaps DC.

This game has left a bad taste in my mouth. I think I know which games to avoid in the future by looking at who signs up. The host was okay though. It's just a case of the mafia not needing to do anything when the townies are already just bad, bad players. I think it was pretty easy to lose interest when you try to say something and the most vocal players refuse to understand the point you're making.

/rage. im out.


What you're saying makes sense. Town did not bring their A-game, but Ace said it best... "It's not what you know, but what you can convince others to believe." If you have an agenda that you need the Town's support, then the onus is on you to do whatever it takes to see it through. It sucks when other players dig in and actively work against you but you have to understand that in Mafia, the level of trust is low to begin with.

It's not everyone else's fault if you can't see your plan to fruition.

If what you take away from this game is, "I now have a list of players to avoid" then you should think about the game some more. My advice here is to think about all of the ingredients that are required to keep Town on track and incorporate that into your next game. You should see better results.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2010 06:35 GMT
#1144
Hmm.. I should have exploited fake claiming as townie more. LAL can be an issue, but hey, if it gets people lynched, I'm all for it

A day 4 claim that I checked DC as red, and Gabe as green would be pretty intresting.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 06:37:25
December 22 2010 06:36 GMT
#1145
Oh yes Brocket, I was very protective of my Shockeyy lynch, and didn't want to mess it up, so I became a bit more closed mind about DCXLIV
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 22 2010 06:58 GMT
#1146
Son of a bitch. I was technically correct with my false claim, but I managed to get the Gengar. I need to learn to pursue these things more -- trust my gut, stick to my guns, push what I believe and damn the consequences. The one game I really did that in (assassin in the palace) it won me the game. If I had done so this time, I may have been able to get two TR lynched. :p

Reading kingjames' post reminded me of something I heard somewhere: Poker isn't a card game, it's a betting game. On the same note, Mafia is a game of manipulation, not a game of voting / roles / etc.
whole lies with a half smile
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
December 22 2010 07:02 GMT
#1147
Ok now that this game is over I can ask who killed me and why? I thought I would have been a terrible night one hit.
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
December 22 2010 07:49 GMT
#1148
@ brocket
The way you post makes people ignore you. I don't think I'd call LSB stupid, he just underestimated a few of us and it was basically him vs the world come the last 2 days. You were posting unintelligibly and unconvincingly, and everyone else but ~2 players were only posting 1-3 times a day.
@node
Yeah, that would've saved you guys, too bad
@meapak
I dunno, ask d3. You weren't active enough for us to kill you
@LSB
I can't believe you actually bought my electrode claim

I can already see the ending
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
December 22 2010 10:01 GMT
#1149
On December 22 2010 16:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok now that this game is over I can ask who killed me and why? I thought I would have been a terrible night one hit.
I did. It was a gut call based on how noob you were posting and but it turned out you were just what you appeared. I figured Night 1 I'd be okay if I missed anyway. Sorry =/

For my night 2 I was actually torn between Inf/Darth, as I thought one of them had to be mafia. In the end I picked Darth so that was unfortunate.

Night 3 I followed LSB's suggestion to hit brocket. Originally my plan was to target DC or LSB had the heat not been brought down on me. I should've pushed harder for DC; also I missed out on the chainsaw defense tell by Kavdragon. Silly, silly me.

Also, apologies to Brownbear. Looks like you had the right of it.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
December 22 2010 10:20 GMT
#1150
GG. I really did mean it when I said gabe should be mafia MVP-- all of the noise he made distracted town a ton and let me and the less active mafia lurk without being spotted more easily. It's a shame the modkills happened, the game would have been a lot more interesting/closer without them :/

I have mafia IRC logs if other mafia guys/drh would be okay with me posting them.
:3
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 22 2010 10:58 GMT
#1151
On December 22 2010 12:40 Node wrote:
I can't believe the day 1 bandwagon on Infundibulum would actually have been a good idea. -_-


:7
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
December 22 2010 12:26 GMT
#1152
Hi, yes, i sacrificed myself.
Life?
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 13:29:42
December 22 2010 13:28 GMT
#1153
On December 22 2010 15:36 LSB wrote:
Oh yes Brocket, I was very protective of my Shockeyy lynch, and didn't want to mess it up, so I became a bit more closed mind about DCXLIV


"my shockeyy lynch"

Lol.

Next time I'm not going to say anything until i find all mafia members.

Tip for the town:

When an obvious bandwagon receives little resistance, the lynchee is more-than-likely town favored. When an investigation of a player IN THE THREAD becomes hostile and a defense wall for the person being investigated, chances are they are mafia aligned.

That's all.

Hope this was as much of a learning experience as it was for me!
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 22 2010 13:51 GMT
#1154
On December 22 2010 19:01 d3_crescentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 16:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok now that this game is over I can ask who killed me and why? I thought I would have been a terrible night one hit.
I did. It was a gut call based on how noob you were posting and but it turned out you were just what you appeared. I figured Night 1 I'd be okay if I missed anyway. Sorry =/

For my night 2 I was actually torn between Inf/Darth, as I thought one of them had to be mafia. In the end I picked Darth so that was unfortunate.

Night 3 I followed LSB's suggestion to hit brocket. Originally my plan was to target DC or LSB had the heat not been brought down on me. I should've pushed harder for DC; also I missed out on the chainsaw defense tell by Kavdragon. Silly, silly me.

Also, apologies to Brownbear. Looks like you had the right of it.

yeah on that "why did you kill me?" note, I pose the same question. I had only posted once that I was getting around to reading the thread, although that does make me happy that I didn't.
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2010 15:15 GMT
#1155
On December 22 2010 15:58 Node wrote:
Son of a bitch. I was technically correct with my false claim, but I managed to get the Gengar. I need to learn to pursue these things more -- trust my gut, stick to my guns, push what I believe and damn the consequences. The one game I really did that in (assassin in the palace) it won me the game. If I had done so this time, I may have been able to get two TR lynched. :p

Reading kingjames' post reminded me of something I heard somewhere: Poker isn't a card game, it's a betting game. On the same note, Mafia is a game of manipulation, not a game of voting / roles / etc.

Dude that would be awesome! If you stuck that would take taken out you and Gengar, and then maybe we'd follow up on Eiii.

That's why I love vigilante/Mad Hatters. All you have to do is kill the mafia. You don't have to explain yourself

On December 22 2010 16:49 DCLXVI wrote:
@LSB
I can't believe you actually bought my electrode claim

I didn't =P, I voted and pushed for you at the end, but of course, I just gave up
On December 22 2010 22:28 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 15:36 LSB wrote:
Oh yes Brocket, I was very protective of my Shockeyy lynch, and didn't want to mess it up, so I became a bit more closed mind about DCXLIV


"my shockeyy lynch"

Lol.

Okay... I might be a bit of a pyscko adopted parent, but I take care of the lynches I push, and watch as they grow up and become fully matured
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2010 15:16 GMT
#1156
On December 22 2010 22:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 19:01 d3_crescentia wrote:
On December 22 2010 16:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok now that this game is over I can ask who killed me and why? I thought I would have been a terrible night one hit.
I did. It was a gut call based on how noob you were posting and but it turned out you were just what you appeared. I figured Night 1 I'd be okay if I missed anyway. Sorry =/

For my night 2 I was actually torn between Inf/Darth, as I thought one of them had to be mafia. In the end I picked Darth so that was unfortunate.

Night 3 I followed LSB's suggestion to hit brocket. Originally my plan was to target DC or LSB had the heat not been brought down on me. I should've pushed harder for DC; also I missed out on the chainsaw defense tell by Kavdragon. Silly, silly me.

Also, apologies to Brownbear. Looks like you had the right of it.

yeah on that "why did you kill me?" note, I pose the same question. I had only posted once that I was getting around to reading the thread, although that does make me happy that I didn't.

On the "why did you kill me" note, was claiming Cloyster effective in moving mafia hits away from me? I might want to do it in future games.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
December 22 2010 15:35 GMT
#1157
Damn... I knew Eiii was mafia all game, and called it at the start, I even built a case for him and then was killed before I put it up. My game really suffered, and others picked up on it, where I started to go inactive in the mid game... was a time when I had 3 exams, x-mas shopping, and an x-mas party to go to. I died while at my gf's works x-mas party, was worth it... open bar. Anyway back to the game...

I think this was a learning experience for me most like, I took away A LOT... here are just a few pointers at the way I played the game, that I want to see if anyone else thinks is right:

1) Never stop posting, as the days drew closer to an end, I would stop posting so that the mafia wouldn't think of me when thinking of who to hit. This was stupid for a few reasons, mainly I would end up not helping the top when they needed it (end of day), as well the mafia will hit who they notice throughout the thread not just someone who is missing for a few hours.

2) Less analysis, you don't need to quote every post someone makes, you just need to quote the important ones. I found that people were ignoring me simply because my posts were like 10 pages long. Next time just a couple posts will be quoted as evidence, and will use the rest of a players posts as back up.

3) I suck as chancy my protects were: N1 LSB (he talked a lot), N2 kavdragon (seemed like a good choice at the time), N3 LSB

On N3 I tried to get the other chancey's to protect Gabriel and seraph... but people didn't listen (or were too inactive) to get the whole "LSB, Gabriel, Seraph are 100% green" aka protect these three people... maybe too subtle?

- - - -

Also a question, did anyone know I was a blue? I got FoS'ed like 4 times, never defended my self except vs DCL (who was mafia...) and no one even looked at it. I thought people thought I was green, but LSB knew I was a blue (although might be thinking too highly of LSBs powers)
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Brocket
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia192 Posts
December 22 2010 15:53 GMT
#1158
"You were posting unintelligibly and unconvincingly" DCRomannumerals

Do you truly believe that? What an offhand comment. It's a blanket statement on all my posting up to now. Just no DC. Just. No. I will now fold my arms and mimic your pretentious attitude..

I died because I disapproved of LSB's sudden bandwagon on shockey. And yes, I distinctly remember it was amberlights, then d3 who got on shockey first. Apparently that made LSB dissatisfied and my subsequent posts were therefore null and void.

@d3: before listening to LSb did you not read the many, many posts of me advocating to keep mewtwo as a villager? and that people voting against you were anti-town. what the fuck? Why would you be such a tool. You don't need to reply. It's an observation. I understand idiocy when I see it.

Misanthropy rising.

I don't know what happened.
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 22 2010 16:00 GMT
#1159
On December 23 2010 00:35 Insanious wrote:
Also a question, did anyone know I was a blue? I got FoS'ed like 4 times, never defended my self except vs DCL (who was mafia...) and no one even looked at it. I thought people thought I was green, but LSB knew I was a blue (although might be thinking too highly of LSBs powers)


Well, I knew.
whole lies with a half smile
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
December 22 2010 16:28 GMT
#1160
@RoL
The other mafia members thought that you could be a good town leader and would be very active, so we decided to kill you before you could talk too much. The same with pandain. Sorry, use a smurf account next time
@LSB
I figured you were fake claiming vet the last night, but it was not worth risking hitting a vet/chansey target when all we needed to do was reduce your numbers.
We actually should have won during the last vote, as we did have a vote switch planned like you suspected. We were going to throw our votes onto d3 and some green at the last minute, which would have won us the game then. unfortunately, I had something come up and I was unable to be active at the appropriate time, as was oceanic I believe.
@Insanious/d3
It was fun arguing with you guys. Dragging you guys into massive arguments in nested quotations really allowed me to stay alive for a few more days.
And insanious - we killed you because you were arguing with me and I thought it would be nice to kill every single player who argued with me, to see if anyone would notice. One or two people did, but I managed to pass it off as being framed.
@ Brocket
I had to read some of your posts several times just to understand what you were saying. You may have understood the meaning when you wrote it, but you were not able to convey your ideas well through your posts. Then we have your attitude issue where you seem to think you are better than us all, and you are shocked that we don' t realize that. That really makes people ignore you, or at least I do because of that. Also, if you want to be taken seriously try using real words. Suss is not a word.
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