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@DC:
Then we have your attitude issue where you seem to think you are better than us all, and you are shocked that we don' t realize that.
I am shocked. And appalled. I think you still have to read some of my posts again. I think I am developing an attitude problem just by needing to respond to these kinds of posts. It's called assimilation. I know I haven't made polite posts for a while now but d3, darth, gabe, lsb and now yourself have each tried to enthusiastically pick apart what I've said with attitude. But frankly it's been pretty shameful on your part too. Really, I'm no better than any of you.
Suss/scummy/ enter any made up word here. See when you say that people ignore me but pay attention to what I say, that really confuses me. Even darththien paid particular attention to when I said 'I stand by voting for gabe' and announced that for forever I am not allowed to change my vote. You get what I mean by suss. I meant suspicious. You're just full of holes DC =/.
I may not be ready to turn the other cheek when I get called out, but honestly nobody here seems to handle being called out themselves very well. Actually I think LSB conceded a couple of points I made so that makes me a little happy.
What really gets me is that we're not even playing a game any more. What's the point? Clearly you're not happy with my posting style. I would actually reconsider my posting if someone like Dr. H gave me a blue notice but believe it or not I have made an effort to be constructive. Again my most aggressive posts were in response to flat-out wrong accusations or offhand remarks that needed to be addressed (you know, like few that you just posted DC).
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On December 23 2010 03:20 Brocket wrote:
I may not be ready to turn the other cheek when I get called out, but honestly nobody here seems to handle being called out themselves very well. Actually I think LSB conceded a couple of points I made so that makes me a little happy.
Yeah, you were right about DC, (ofc), just me being super paranoid didn't see it. I was expecting more mafia action than just simple passiveness.
I think we should have agreed to lynch Shockey this day, and then DC afterwards, rather than making it a competing lynch.
It's just the issue of townie on townie that breaks down most mafia games here.
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@Brocket this is a quote from a post I made to Kenpachi
On December 12 2010 03:19 Insanious wrote:
Its not THAT you post, its WHAT you post...
Even if you analyzed the game perfectly, named every Red, doesn't mean anything unless you can get people to listen to you. That was your problem, you don't get people to listen to you simply due to the structure of your posts.
I can pick any random post by you and can point out why people didn't listen to you. Let's just go through a few shall we?
On December 15 2010 05:57 Brocket wrote:
Out from left field. I didn't see GGQ coming. I agree zeks would have been voted out day 1 because of kenpachi. Honestly if Gabriel wasn't here I'd vote him too. But I've already said kenpachi and jcarl lynched and dead as townies and gabriel's strong motive to FoS zeks to survive confound the zeks-is-scum argument. I want to see gabriel's identity, since he's failed to convince me from day 1 and the only recourse is by lynch.
I am set on voting gabriel because I think he's mafia. I appreciate the people so far who voted with me for day 2 because that means they've read my posts and thought 'hey that Brocket dude is pretty handsome and makes a lot of sense'.
If for some outlandish reason I am delirious and Gabe turns out to be townie, I invite suspicion upon myself and throw myself onto the sword. I will vote myself day 3 because I would know that nothing I said was productive at all and I would feel guilty that I got Gabe the 'helpful' townie lynched. But until that happens, it's vote 1 gabe. Vote him dead.
What is this? Really, WHY? This is what you said "I don't care what people say, I'm voting Gabriel no matter what for rest of game until he is dead because of my gut feeling." This post, I randomly clicked on, was from relatively early-ish in the game (~600 posts in). This post makes me want to ignore your input for the rest of the game. I never even noticed it while playing, but if I did...
This is post has 0 content for the thread, it doesn't add to your case against Gabe, it doesn't make anyone want to vote for him more... and guess what? You were wrong about Gabe who ended up becoming one of the strongest townies end of game.
You could of just left it, like everyone else did... but instead you kept pushing for Gabe someone everyone else knew was innocent and wasted a lot of thread space and did nothing but detract from your credibility.
If you would of just let the Gabe thing go, people would of listened to you more. You kept trying to kill a townie who was pretty much confirmed town from this point on, it just cluttered the thread with a useless FoS.
On December 18 2010 10:06 Brocket wrote:
Also my outburst for the DC bandwagon was inspired by your post in voting thread LSB, page 6. When you listed it, it had 3 on shock, 2 on dc, and 5 on d3. As it stands I'm happy if you vote shock or dc.
Shock has reacted by saying he's medic. That's up to you if believe him. I'm sticking with DC. My picks are with DC or gabe, they both have eliminated their accusers in the past in this very game. I still am keen on lynching gabe in the future.
Will this get me killed? Probably. But then I can be like a martyr so you can go hunt their asses down later.
Just as proof that you never let it go, ~300 posts later in the thread you still want to kill Gabe. No one else does, just you.
This also takes suspicion off of Shockeyy an actual scum. Your inability to let Gabe go almost killed one of our strongest allies and let our enemy past. This again makes people not want to listen to you. You need to move on and let things go, too many FoS is bad for the town, and focusing on Gabe for 300 posts when no one supports you is terrible play.
On December 19 2010 02:48 Brocket wrote:
When did I defend shockey or believe him?
I just said it'll be unfortunate if shockey turned up medic after he claimed medic. I didn't ever say I believed him. Seriously quote me. Please. And when did I defend Shockey?
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I told you guys to go ahead to vote Shockey, it's even in the damn post you quoted me saying. I personally chose DC because like gabe he has gone under the radar due to shit storms. I still think DC is scummy. Am I not allowed to think that when I have said multiple times that DC eliminated people accusing him and I thought he was a scummy target for eliminating his targets and trying to get rid of m2. Am I not right in saying if d3 is mewtwo then we can use him as townie? He gave up the game when he admitted it. He can't win until more mafia are dead.
Does it not make sense then for mafia to use our day to lynch d3? D3 can't be killed unless it's a lynch. Why is it suspect if I want d3 to live a little longer?
Again, tell me if I defended shockey or if I believed him. You won't find a quote because I sure as hell didn't say it. Either you've gone overboard with analyses or you're just scum trying to knock out a townie that you see as a threat LSB. I called you out on the shockey bandwagon. I told everybody that it was a random jump LSB. You didn't have analyses that time, there was not any evidence apart from amberlight vs shockey. As far as I'm concerned I don't believe a word you say.
This post is like WTF? You don't defend your self... and you don't see HOW you defended Shockeyy. You defended him by trying to get Gabe lynched. Literally that was the defense you gave to Shockeyy. Your hardcore vendetta almost turned the noose to Gabe (town) instead of Shockeyy (Red). This is classic Red play, start a bandwaggon on someone that isn't red and get them killed. You don't defend the red, but you still save them.
You ignore that LSB had done like 3 analysis of Shockeyy up to that point (on top of amber's analysis), and then you try to again point fingers to... Gabe and LSB WHO ARE CONFIRMED TOWN AT THIS POINT.
You FoS 100% TOWN PLAYERS, there was 0% chance of them being red after the Shockeyy lynch. If you didn't leave them alone, you looked 100% red, and you just didn't see it, due to not letting it go that Gabe wasn't red... 400 posts in the thread later.
Then you start to personally attack people, this takes your credibility from like 30% to 0. People don't respond well to personal attacks, and they are a sign of someone trapped in a corner. Usually this is red behavior.
Brocket... you weren't listented to because:
1) You didn't let things go
2) You didn't post a lot of analysis, you didn't quote a lot of posts
3) You didn't let things go
4) You personally attacked people
It had nothing to do with what you were saying, it had 100% to do with how you said it.
People would of listened if you:
1) Never posted about Gabe again
2) Never personally attacked anyone in your posts
Those two things would of made people listen, they didn't because they didn't think you could properly analyze the game with the way you were posting. That is it, you posted terribly. 10% of a Mafia game is what you post, 90% is how you post it.
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On December 22 2010 19:01 d3_crescentia wrote:
Night 3 I followed LSB's suggestion to hit brocket. Originally my plan was to target DC or LSB had the heat not been brought down on me. I should've pushed harder for DC; also I missed out on the chainsaw defense tell by Kavdragon. Silly, silly me.
Out of curiosity, what was my chainsaw defense? The massive analysis of you that i pulled up? (I'm not saying I didn't do it, I'm just a little confused on the terms.)
On December 23 2010 00:35 Insanious wrote:
2) Less analysis, you don't need to quote every post someone makes, you just need to quote the important ones. I found that people were ignoring me simply because my posts were like 10 pages long. Next time just a couple posts will be quoted as evidence, and will use the rest of a players posts as back up.
Bad. Not less analysis, just good analysis. My main tactic in this game was to be a very "pro-town" like player, posting analysis, not getting into fights, not posting spam, etc. Instead of trying to not post content, I tried to post so much that no one would read/understand all of it. That's what I did with LSB, Amber, and D3 anyways. Did anyone actually read it all? In anycase, it seemed to serve me well, as i wasn't a realistic target for the lynch throughout the game.
On December 23 2010 00:35 Insanious wrote:
Also a question, did anyone know I was a blue? I got FoS'ed like 4 times, never defended my self except vs DCL (who was mafia...) and no one even looked at it. I thought people thought I was green, but LSB knew I was a blue (although might be thinking too highly of LSBs powers)
You fit my profile for being a medic, actually. But I made so many guesses that one of them was bound to be right. I thought that LSB was a mad hatter for a while.
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On December 22 2010 22:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
yeah on that "why did you kill me?" note, I pose the same question. I had only posted once that I was getting around to reading the thread, although that does make me happy that I didn't.
Sorry, you have me to thank for that. I saw your play in ExMiMa, and you've been around for a while. I was hoping that you wouldn't post anything, because I thought that you would be the first person to see me as mafia. Of course, you'll probably respond by getting me lynched day1 in my next game. =D
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On December 23 2010 03:52 Insanious wrote:
10% of a Mafia game is what you post, 90% is how you post it.
^This.
Very very very true.
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Noone listened to me and town proceeded to self-destruct T_T
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On December 23 2010 04:51 BrownBear wrote:
Noone listened to me and town proceeded to self-destruct T_T
Are you serious dude?
The only thing you said or did this entire game was suggest lynching MewTwo which was a horrible idea.
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Having gained access to the mafia forum just before this game started I was always curious as to why there possibly could have been so many bans involved in here. I followed this game occasionally when I could and it's seriously crazy how some of you acted in this game. It put me off quite a bit, to be honest.
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On December 23 2010 05:14 koreasilver wrote:
Having gained access to the mafia forum just before this game started I was always curious as to why there possibly could have been so many bans involved in here. I followed this game occasionally when I could and it's seriously crazy how some of you acted in this game. It put me off quite a bit, to be honest.
I hope you didn't take what I said in the game as offensive. From what I have seen mafia try to cause big arguments, and I tried to emulate that with moderate success. I may have stepped close to the line of personal attacks, but I tried to avoid that and I hope d3/insanious realize that I meant no animosity, I was just being scum.
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On December 23 2010 00:16 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 22:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On December 22 2010 19:01 d3_crescentia wrote:On December 22 2010 16:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok now that this game is over I can ask who killed me and why? I thought I would have been a terrible night one hit. I did. It was a gut call based on how noob you were posting and but it turned out you were just what you appeared. I figured Night 1 I'd be okay if I missed anyway. Sorry =/ For my night 2 I was actually torn between Inf/Darth, as I thought one of them had to be mafia. In the end I picked Darth so that was unfortunate. Night 3 I followed LSB's suggestion to hit brocket. Originally my plan was to target DC or LSB had the heat not been brought down on me. I should've pushed harder for DC; also I missed out on the chainsaw defense tell by Kavdragon. Silly, silly me. Also, apologies to Brownbear. Looks like you had the right of it. yeah on that "why did you kill me?" note, I pose the same question. I had only posted once that I was getting around to reading the thread, although that does make me happy that I didn't. On the "why did you kill me" note, was claiming Cloyster effective in moving mafia hits away from me? I might want to do it in future games.
False claiming vet? Hmm that sounds familiar...
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On December 23 2010 06:23 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2010 00:16 LSB wrote:On December 22 2010 22:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On December 22 2010 19:01 d3_crescentia wrote:On December 22 2010 16:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok now that this game is over I can ask who killed me and why? I thought I would have been a terrible night one hit. I did. It was a gut call based on how noob you were posting and but it turned out you were just what you appeared. I figured Night 1 I'd be okay if I missed anyway. Sorry =/ For my night 2 I was actually torn between Inf/Darth, as I thought one of them had to be mafia. In the end I picked Darth so that was unfortunate. Night 3 I followed LSB's suggestion to hit brocket. Originally my plan was to target DC or LSB had the heat not been brought down on me. I should've pushed harder for DC; also I missed out on the chainsaw defense tell by Kavdragon. Silly, silly me. Also, apologies to Brownbear. Looks like you had the right of it. yeah on that "why did you kill me?" note, I pose the same question. I had only posted once that I was getting around to reading the thread, although that does make me happy that I didn't. On the "why did you kill me" note, was claiming Cloyster effective in moving mafia hits away from me? I might want to do it in future games. False claiming vet? Hmm that sounds familiar...
Didn't get the role you wanted? Fakeclaim it!
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On December 23 2010 06:43 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2010 06:23 Incognito wrote:On December 23 2010 00:16 LSB wrote:On December 22 2010 22:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On December 22 2010 19:01 d3_crescentia wrote:On December 22 2010 16:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok now that this game is over I can ask who killed me and why? I thought I would have been a terrible night one hit. I did. It was a gut call based on how noob you were posting and but it turned out you were just what you appeared. I figured Night 1 I'd be okay if I missed anyway. Sorry =/ For my night 2 I was actually torn between Inf/Darth, as I thought one of them had to be mafia. In the end I picked Darth so that was unfortunate. Night 3 I followed LSB's suggestion to hit brocket. Originally my plan was to target DC or LSB had the heat not been brought down on me. I should've pushed harder for DC; also I missed out on the chainsaw defense tell by Kavdragon. Silly, silly me. Also, apologies to Brownbear. Looks like you had the right of it. yeah on that "why did you kill me?" note, I pose the same question. I had only posted once that I was getting around to reading the thread, although that does make me happy that I didn't. On the "why did you kill me" note, was claiming Cloyster effective in moving mafia hits away from me? I might want to do it in future games. False claiming vet? Hmm that sounds familiar... Didn't get the role you wanted? Fakeclaim it!
Gotcha. Well I wanted mafia so...
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On December 23 2010 05:14 koreasilver wrote:
Having gained access to the mafia forum just before this game started I was always curious as to why there possibly could have been so many bans involved in here. I followed this game occasionally when I could and it's seriously crazy how some of you acted in this game. It put me off quite a bit, to be honest.
I really hope you don't take this game as representative of all games in the forum. Check out insane mafia. People had lots of fun, and not too much drama.
Did I mention the modding was 5 star, top of the line? I really liked the cohost
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On December 23 2010 07:01 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2010 05:14 koreasilver wrote:
Having gained access to the mafia forum just before this game started I was always curious as to why there possibly could have been so many bans involved in here. I followed this game occasionally when I could and it's seriously crazy how some of you acted in this game. It put me off quite a bit, to be honest. I really hope you don't take this game as representative of all games in the forum. Check out insane mafia. People had lots of fun, and not too much drama. Did I mention the modding was 5 star, top of the line? I really liked the cohost
Shameless self-advertisement here hmm?
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Of course
Are you going to play Team Mafia? I want a rematch.
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On December 23 2010 07:07 LSB wrote:
Of course
Are you going to play Team Mafia? I want a rematch.
I dunno if i have time. Also seems like it isnt going to start anytime soon...
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On December 23 2010 00:16 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 22:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On December 22 2010 19:01 d3_crescentia wrote:On December 22 2010 16:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok now that this game is over I can ask who killed me and why? I thought I would have been a terrible night one hit. I did. It was a gut call based on how noob you were posting and but it turned out you were just what you appeared. I figured Night 1 I'd be okay if I missed anyway. Sorry =/ For my night 2 I was actually torn between Inf/Darth, as I thought one of them had to be mafia. In the end I picked Darth so that was unfortunate. Night 3 I followed LSB's suggestion to hit brocket. Originally my plan was to target DC or LSB had the heat not been brought down on me. I should've pushed harder for DC; also I missed out on the chainsaw defense tell by Kavdragon. Silly, silly me. Also, apologies to Brownbear. Looks like you had the right of it. yeah on that "why did you kill me?" note, I pose the same question. I had only posted once that I was getting around to reading the thread, although that does make me happy that I didn't. On the "why did you kill me" note, was claiming Cloyster effective in moving mafia hits away from me? I might want to do it in future games.
No, it didn't matter because at that point no matter who we hit, we won.
Also we knew you weren't a blue since Night 1.
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On December 23 2010 07:35 Infundibulum wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2010 00:16 LSB wrote:On December 22 2010 22:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On December 22 2010 19:01 d3_crescentia wrote:On December 22 2010 16:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok now that this game is over I can ask who killed me and why? I thought I would have been a terrible night one hit. I did. It was a gut call based on how noob you were posting and but it turned out you were just what you appeared. I figured Night 1 I'd be okay if I missed anyway. Sorry =/ For my night 2 I was actually torn between Inf/Darth, as I thought one of them had to be mafia. In the end I picked Darth so that was unfortunate. Night 3 I followed LSB's suggestion to hit brocket. Originally my plan was to target DC or LSB had the heat not been brought down on me. I should've pushed harder for DC; also I missed out on the chainsaw defense tell by Kavdragon. Silly, silly me. Also, apologies to Brownbear. Looks like you had the right of it. yeah on that "why did you kill me?" note, I pose the same question. I had only posted once that I was getting around to reading the thread, although that does make me happy that I didn't. On the "why did you kill me" note, was claiming Cloyster effective in moving mafia hits away from me? I might want to do it in future games. No, it didn't matter because at that point no matter who we hit, we won. Also we knew you weren't a blue since Night 1.
Lol, he knew since day 1. I thought that you were blue till at least day 3.
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Although, if i had thought about it, (like i did after the game) the cloyster claim was a dead give-away that you were NOT a cloyster. If you were, than you would want the Mafia to hit you, and you would never tell them. The fact that you said this should have brought more attention to you, and we should have hit you, but w/e.
Might I ask who sent in the last three kills? Cause I sent in a list of three, but It would have sucked if we hadn't killed anyone that night. Btw, town: Mafia was nowhere NEAR as organized as you gave us credit for. It really felt like the town tore itself apart. But then, that's what it always feels like to me...
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