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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2010 12:54 GMT
#361
On December 02 2010 16:08 Barundar wrote:
what will stop jcarlsoniv from turning red when he dies?


I won't. My role isn't too special. I will still be able to talk to you guys, but I will be limited in how much per cycle period.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
December 02 2010 14:25 GMT
#362
On December 02 2010 10:10 ghrur wrote:
After that roleclaim and that defense, I'll admit I was wrong. Decond seems town to me now. :p. I mean, no town would admit to misusing that role so quickly. Peace? lol.


Have you ever thought if he is Mafia, he can rightfully end the vote early every other cycle, when he deems so, without "drawing suspicion".

Just throwing it out there and stirring it up.
靈魂交響曲
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
December 02 2010 14:38 GMT
#363
On December 02 2010 23:25 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2010 10:10 ghrur wrote:
After that roleclaim and that defense, I'll admit I was wrong. Decond seems town to me now. :p. I mean, no town would admit to misusing that role so quickly. Peace? lol.


Have you ever thought if he is Mafia, he can rightfully end the vote early every other cycle, when he deems so, without "drawing suspicion".

Just throwing it out there and stirring it up.


Insanely overpowered mafia role then. It would essentially mean that town can only lynch a mafia every second day. And why would I claim it. I send in the execution to Dr.H and it happens anonymously, hence my reason for claiming. It helps town to know who I am so as not to cause confusion and chaos.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
December 02 2010 14:56 GMT
#364
I like overpowered roles. Don't you like overpowered roles?
I asked for Rambo with 10 KP and immune to everything, but DH said that role was stupid.
I died a little inside.
靈魂交響曲
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 02 2010 15:18 GMT
#365
Deconduo's role seems more town-oriented to me. In a game like this where mafia has as much power as they do over the vote, it would be ridiculous to essentially hand the lynch to them. This gives the town an opportunity to end the freakin' day when they can't overcome the mafia influence on the lynch.

I wish you hadn't roleclaimed. :/ Your role is too powerful to die night 1.

whole lies with a half smile
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
December 02 2010 15:19 GMT
#366
On December 03 2010 00:18 Node wrote:
Deconduo's role seems more town-oriented to me. In a game like this where mafia has as much power as they do over the vote, it would be ridiculous to essentially hand the lynch to them. This gives the town an opportunity to end the freakin' day when they can't overcome the mafia influence on the lynch.

I wish you hadn't roleclaimed. :/ Your role is too powerful to die night 1.



I may have something up my sleeve
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 02 2010 15:21 GMT
#367
At the risk of looking stupid when night post hits, it makes sense to have a mafia executioner to counterweight the majority vote system. It is harder for mafia to win with a sudden vote switch when half the players needs to vote.

Decon, could you explain why you decided to execute SR as soon as you had the chance, and not Aidnai? You kept your hand over him.

Aidnai defended Decon, so there is a possible link.
Bartundar
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
December 02 2010 16:00 GMT
#368
On December 03 2010 00:21 Barundar wrote:
At the risk of looking stupid when night post hits, it makes sense to have a mafia executioner to counterweight the majority vote system. It is harder for mafia to win with a sudden vote switch when half the players needs to vote.

Decon, could you explain why you decided to execute SR as soon as you had the chance, and not Aidnai? You kept your hand over him.

Aidnai defended Decon, so there is a possible link.


I was suspicious of the bandwagon on aidai. Both in how quickly it formed and how quickly it disappeared. Nothing to do with the fact that he defended me (I didn't even see that tbh, can you link the post?)
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 02 2010 16:26 GMT
#369
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7144843

A lot of people was suspicious, but difference is they didn't execute someone else as soon as they had the chance. Earlier you posted:
Next, regular vote counts are really important in a majority lynch game, by losing count someone can get lynched a lot easier than you'd think. ESPECIALLY as there are probably vote manipulation roles.

Seems counter-intuitive to rush-lynch someone then?

If you are mafia it would make sense to claim ASAP, since the last vote is always going to be suspicious, something a mafia would hate.

In any case I haven’t forgotten this discussion was started by Fishball, who magicly vanished again. I would still like to hear your thoughts on this though Decon, we haven’t seen anything concrete from you yet, except the roleclaim, but that doesn’t seem to scare you?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 02 2010 16:33 GMT
#370
On December 01 2010 12:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Sometimes the hammer strikes back

and it almost struck evil

Aidnai had 6 votes, so only needed one town vote before Decon would be forced to vote him. "strike back"
Bartundar
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
December 02 2010 16:43 GMT
#371
On December 03 2010 01:26 Barundar wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7144843

A lot of people was suspicious, but difference is they didn't execute someone else as soon as they had the chance. Earlier you posted:
Show nested quote +
Next, regular vote counts are really important in a majority lynch game, by losing count someone can get lynched a lot easier than you'd think. ESPECIALLY as there are probably vote manipulation roles.

Seems counter-intuitive to rush-lynch someone then?

If you are mafia it would make sense to claim ASAP, since the last vote is always going to be suspicious, something a mafia would hate.

In any case I haven’t forgotten this discussion was started by Fishball, who magicly vanished again. I would still like to hear your thoughts on this though Decon, we haven’t seen anything concrete from you yet, except the roleclaim, but that doesn’t seem to scare you?


Yes I'm magical.
In my little magical world, I sit in an office most of the time and "work".

Wait.
What roleclaim? Oh you mean the comments I had for deconduo's roleclaim?
Scare me? Why so scared? I no scared!
靈魂交響曲
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
December 02 2010 16:53 GMT
#372
On December 03 2010 01:33 Barundar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 12:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Sometimes the hammer strikes back

and it almost struck evil

Aidnai had 6 votes, so only needed one town vote before Decon would be forced to vote him. "strike back"

This might be me being thrown by a red herring, but this post from the Doc makes me suspicious of Aidnai. If Deconduo's "hammer" role is as Barundar claims, one more vote would have effectively lynched Aidnai. The part saying "and it almost struck evil" makes me think that we were very close to lynching a Mafioso. The hammer was almost forced to take down Aidnai, who is possibly the "evil" referred to in this post.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 02 2010 16:56 GMT
#373
On December 03 2010 01:43 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 01:26 Barundar wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7144843

A lot of people was suspicious, but difference is they didn't execute someone else as soon as they had the chance. Earlier you posted:
Next, regular vote counts are really important in a majority lynch game, by losing count someone can get lynched a lot easier than you'd think. ESPECIALLY as there are probably vote manipulation roles.

Seems counter-intuitive to rush-lynch someone then?

If you are mafia it would make sense to claim ASAP, since the last vote is always going to be suspicious, something a mafia would hate.

In any case I haven’t forgotten this discussion was started by Fishball, who magicly vanished again. I would still like to hear your thoughts on this though Decon, we haven’t seen anything concrete from you yet, except the roleclaim, but that doesn’t seem to scare you?


Yes I'm magical.
In my little magical world, I sit in an office most of the time and "work".

Wait.
What roleclaim? Oh you mean the comments I had for deconduo's roleclaim?
Scare me? Why so scared? I no scared!


Fishball, you seem to be repeating yourself a lot. Are you feeling sick? Is it contagious?

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
December 02 2010 16:58 GMT
#374
On December 03 2010 01:56 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 01:43 Fishball wrote:
On December 03 2010 01:26 Barundar wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7144843

A lot of people was suspicious, but difference is they didn't execute someone else as soon as they had the chance. Earlier you posted:
Next, regular vote counts are really important in a majority lynch game, by losing count someone can get lynched a lot easier than you'd think. ESPECIALLY as there are probably vote manipulation roles.

Seems counter-intuitive to rush-lynch someone then?

If you are mafia it would make sense to claim ASAP, since the last vote is always going to be suspicious, something a mafia would hate.

In any case I haven’t forgotten this discussion was started by Fishball, who magicly vanished again. I would still like to hear your thoughts on this though Decon, we haven’t seen anything concrete from you yet, except the roleclaim, but that doesn’t seem to scare you?


Yes I'm magical.
In my little magical world, I sit in an office most of the time and "work".

Wait.
What roleclaim? Oh you mean the comments I had for deconduo's roleclaim?
Scare me? Why so scared? I no scared!


Fishball, you seem to be repeating yourself a lot. Are you feeling sick? Is it contagious?

Are you saying that Fishball's posts might be limited by some kind of infection role? As if he was delusional?
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 02 2010 17:04 GMT
#375
On December 03 2010 01:53 Aeres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 01:33 Barundar wrote:
On December 01 2010 12:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Sometimes the hammer strikes back

and it almost struck evil

Aidnai had 6 votes, so only needed one town vote before Decon would be forced to vote him. "strike back"

This might be me being thrown by a red herring, but this post from the Doc makes me suspicious of Aidnai. If Deconduo's "hammer" role is as Barundar claims, one more vote would have effectively lynched Aidnai. The part saying "and it almost struck evil" makes me think that we were very close to lynching a Mafioso. The hammer was almost forced to take down Aidnai, who is possibly the "evil" referred to in this post.


When I read that clue, I actually thought the hammer was Red. After deconduo explained his ability, I think the role is really strong. Being able to end the day with your own personal lynch is probably something that DrH would deem too powerful for the mafia.

However, DrH said was that he was rooting for the mafia to win. If that is true, then why would he reveal deconduo's alignment and give us a free lynch? If deconduo was a mafia, and he knew that his clue was the only one given in Red, would he have been so willing to roleclaim?

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 02 2010 17:04 GMT
#376
Guys, Never Roleclaim at night...
All it does is give the mafia information on who to take out.

We'll figure out stuff tomorrow.

+ Show Spoiler +
Assuming I'm still alive.
Please don't kill me!
Please don't kill me!
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
December 02 2010 17:06 GMT
#377
On December 03 2010 01:58 Aeres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 01:56 kingjames01 wrote:
On December 03 2010 01:43 Fishball wrote:
On December 03 2010 01:26 Barundar wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7144843

A lot of people was suspicious, but difference is they didn't execute someone else as soon as they had the chance. Earlier you posted:
Next, regular vote counts are really important in a majority lynch game, by losing count someone can get lynched a lot easier than you'd think. ESPECIALLY as there are probably vote manipulation roles.

Seems counter-intuitive to rush-lynch someone then?

If you are mafia it would make sense to claim ASAP, since the last vote is always going to be suspicious, something a mafia would hate.

In any case I haven’t forgotten this discussion was started by Fishball, who magicly vanished again. I would still like to hear your thoughts on this though Decon, we haven’t seen anything concrete from you yet, except the roleclaim, but that doesn’t seem to scare you?


Yes I'm magical.
In my little magical world, I sit in an office most of the time and "work".

Wait.
What roleclaim? Oh you mean the comments I had for deconduo's roleclaim?
Scare me? Why so scared? I no scared!


Fishball, you seem to be repeating yourself a lot. Are you feeling sick? Is it contagious?

Are you saying that Fishball's posts might be limited by some kind of infection role? As if he was delusional?


No, he is saying I'm crazy.
靈魂交響曲
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 02 2010 17:11 GMT
#378
No, actually, I'm trying to figure out if Fishball fits this clue:

Repetition the new epidemic of Liquidia?

=)
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
December 02 2010 17:19 GMT
#379
On December 03 2010 02:11 kingjames01 wrote:
No, actually, I'm trying to figure out if Fishball fits this clue:

Repetition the new epidemic of Liquidia?

=)


I refuse to believe that you do not think I'm crazy.
靈魂交響曲
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 02 2010 17:23 GMT
#380
On December 03 2010 02:19 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 02:11 kingjames01 wrote:
No, actually, I'm trying to figure out if Fishball fits this clue:

Repetition the new epidemic of Liquidia?

=)


I refuse to believe that you do not think I'm crazy.


Why do you refuse to believe that I do not think you are crazy? =)

Someone speculated that you were trying to get lynched since you were the spirit role. However, jcarlsoniv claimed that role. I don't have any explanation for your behaviour yet so I thought maybe you were forced to play this way because of your role.

You're acting like an innocent, yet repetitive child in a make-believe world.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
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