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Now onto the game. Everyone should elect me as Minister of Magic. I bring the unique flavor of a player experienced enough to have a good general idea of what's going on and new enough to still be affected by begginers luck. As you minister of magic I will be open to any and all input (although older players will carry more weight) and I will try to make my first lynch as diplomatic as possible. Under my leadership the town will focus less on forming a town circle (something that has doomed many a past town) and more on lynching scum. Under my leadership any detective/alighnment checker roles that exist will not claim until they have found a red or confirmed a blue because with so many alternative victory senarios it will be crucial to have these players alive to determine who can be trusted. The one exception is if a dt finds a medic or equivelent type role, these should NOT be revealed because they will immediatly become death eater targets. As for the medics they should focus on protecting any blue roles that our detective unearth and once a detective is uncovered and confirmed than medics should protect them. This whole post relies on there being standard roles in this game... | ||
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LSB, RebirthOfLeGenD, Kenpachi, Ghrur, Aidnai, Coagulation, CubEdIn, Meapak_Ziphh, Youngminii, jcarlsoniv, kitaman27, Deconduo, orgolove, ~OpZ~, LunarDestiny, and Pandain. I'm pretty sure these people aren't smurfs so now it's up to people who have played more games than me to point out anyone I might have missed. | ||
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 . If you need a reason it's because I'm not LSB who's proposing a very scummy voting plan and I'm not RoL who's entire platform is to kill LSB :D. Oh and RoL in answer to your question of why not LSB my answer is that right now I would lynch LSB if elected however theres still a lot of time so I'm not committing myself to killing him like you are. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On December 11 2010 10:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: omg I love you Annul. As someone with harry potter fans in the family (and being one myself) I appreciate all the time you put into it. Now onto the game. Everyone should elect me as Minister of Magic. I bring the unique flavor of a player experienced enough to have a good general idea of what's going on and new enough to still be affected by begginers luck. As you minister of magic I will be open to any and all input (although older players will carry more weight) and I will try to make my first lynch as diplomatic as possible. Under my leadership the town will focus less on forming a town circle (something that has doomed many a past town) and more on lynching scum. Under my leadership any detective/alighnment checker roles that exist will not claim until they have found a red or confirmed a blue because with so many alternative victory senarios it will be crucial to have these players alive to determine who can be trusted. The one exception is if a dt finds a medic or equivelent type role, these should NOT be revealed because they will immediatly become death eater targets. As for the medics they should focus on protecting any blue roles that our detective unearth and once a detective is uncovered and confirmed than medics should protect them. This whole post relies on there being standard roles in this game... On December 11 2010 10:42 zeks wrote: If I get selected Minister of Magic you guys can just vote for whoever and I'll lynch the person with the most votes regardless of situation. So basically everyone gets a say in who dies first. Since the Minster of Magic is essentially the same as everyone else after the first lynch if elected I'll gladly step back down. I'm asking for your votes to ensure the most democratic way of deciding first lynch. On December 11 2010 11:27 LSB wrote: ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/CB59L.jpg) Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler + Slightly Embellished Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! On December 11 2010 14:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: <3 sorry I will stop with the argument! I would rather establish smurfs with alternate play styles and run with a few different accounts than constantly making new names and asking for access and jumping through all the hoops that go with that -__-; ______ on topic. vote for me if you want, I will kill LSB day one! That is my platform. Legit, that is my platform. Upon being elected I will kill LSB, vote for me. On December 11 2010 15:24 Kenpachi wrote: his support would probably be all the negatives about LSB. Theres a ton of em and its viable. WELL, ima do something big this game. I! will be the mayor!! Plis vote. On December 12 2010 00:25 deconduo wrote: I'm going to run for MoM as well. I'm not veteran, but I have played a few games. I'm not going to hold a vote for who to lynch, but I will listen to peoples advice and make my own decision. I feel this way I am pretty transparent, and its much more difficult for mafia to manipulate the lynch. So vote for me Most promise the same thing, openess and a willingness to listen to the town. Except of course for LSB. The mayor vote basically comes down to do you trust LSB or not and if you don't then it's a personality contest between the remaining candidates. Except for LSB pretty much all the candidates have promised to listen to the town in some way or another. Out of these players at least one of them is mafia, therefore consider this list a possible lynch list if I get elected. Oh and regarding smurfs. I still want to know who is a smurf and who isn't. I know better players may want to play with annonimity but I'd like to know who is a smurf and who is new because there are some things new players do that make them look like scum. I'd like to know when it's a new player making a mistake and when it's an experienced player taken advantage of their smurfing position. That being said I don't care who the person smurfing is i.e. I don't need to know the identity of the smurf. However for the sake of clarity I will continue to try and find the smurfs. | ||
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On December 12 2010 05:31 Barundar wrote: Stupid question, but is there a chance of a village idiot in the game? If there is a VI it might be RoL because he's been acting extremely odd so far. Normally he would justify his reasons for killing LSB with really strong well thought out posts but in this game he's like "I just wanna revenge kill." this has struck me as really odd, maybe I'm the only one but ive seen RoL play much better. /stupid theory | ||
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 But seriously you have this vendetta against LSB which has really caused me to discount you. If you weren't so dead set on killing LSB then yeah I'd definetly consider voting for you but as it stands every practically every single one of your posts has been attacking LSB. Do I think LSB's plan is bad? Yes! Do I think there is some suspicion surronding LSB? Yes again. Do I think killing him NO MATTER WHAT is a good thing? Hell no. I don't care how far you're willing to stick your neck out on this lynch if I don't think the person you're lynching is the right choice. | ||
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On December 12 2010 13:13 Airbag wrote: who would you kill instead of LSB meapak? I already said this, I would kill one of the mayor candidates, most likely decon because he got a lot of votes that came really out of nowhere or possible zeks or ken but I'll wait until the election is over to make my final decision. I would of course lynch LSB if the overwhelming majority of the town wanted that but right now I just don't see him as the best bet. I do have my eye on a couple of people who are not mayor candidates but I'd like to see their behavior play out some more. | ||
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On December 13 2010 03:08 kitaman27 wrote: Just to confirm, was this your campaign promise Meapak? I was under the impression that you wanted to target a mayor candidate. Mind clearing that up? Yes one of the mayor candidates would be my prefered target, however people need to think twice before they rush to lynch RoL or LSB, as I've outlined before I feel pretty uncomfortable lynching them because of possible third party outcomes. Deconduo was the person I was leaning to and since then people have spoken for and against his lynch. I'm not absolutely married to lynching a mayor candidate, I feel like there is a very high possibility there is a mafia amongst the mayor candidates but if the town finds a better candidate for first lynch or I find another candidate who the town agrees with then we'll lynch them. | ||
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On December 13 2010 03:52 ~OpZ~ wrote: Yea, kinda looks like LSB is pulling a Pandain. Pandain was scum and ran for mayor hard in Insane mafia, but he dropped it cuz Dr. H was about to win. He railed Dr.H hard as scum afterwards too, even though he basically gave the mayor position away. Thats what I think LSB is up to. Remeber in that game the mayor had real power, Dr. H had bodyguards. In this game once the first lynch is done the mayor has no more real power. If LSB decides to trash me after I win than it's kinda pointless because I'm just another townie at that point. | ||
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Deconduo I've already explained why I think he should be lynched. Aidnai He's the person who I've been keeping an eye on and LSB did a very good analyis of him + Show Spoiler + On December 13 2010 09:00 LSB wrote: Although this seems like a large post. Take a look at it closely. It doesn’t state anything. First Aidani is trying to seem like he is contributing to the town by discussing the setup. Two paragraphs that are junk and basically irrelevant to the game. Next he proceeds to criticize the plan. Although it seems like real though. Take note. All these points were already brought up before or are already addressed Aidani in this post is doing nothing but making a façade of analysis Firstly, he completely reversed his position on my plan. Very wishy washy. But he’s doing this without actually taking a position. All he says is “there are some good some bad”. Looks like he’s avoiding the issue. Note one thing, non of the top candidates for the mayor are mafia. I’m getting a green read on Meapak, and I still believe that RoL is Mayor. There doesn’t seem to be a way for the mafia to take the mayorship. Aidnai then says “How about we RNG a mayor?” Yeah… Aidnai is trying to get us to trust him with who should be mayor. And just watch, he’ll ‘randomly’ choose someone who happens to be scum. Doesn't actually do much. It's like he's trying to get other people to do analysis on Deconduo without putting an opinion himself + Show Spoiler [Irrelevant Smurf Stuff] + On December 11 2010 14:42 aidnai wrote: Alright, we have a few smurfs. The true identities have not been revealed so the smurf is doing its job. The mod and players are aware that there are smurfs, so we know not to talk about the game with people outside the thread. Can we all be happy with this? I don't think Annul should learn the identity of the smurfs, since that would give him a leg up in future games.... On December 12 2010 02:53 aidnai wrote: 'What is a smurf?' Let me try to define it for you. - Joined TL.net november 14 - Requested access to the mafia forum november 14 - Posted nowhere else except this game Rather than argue details about past games, here's a policy we could discuss right now: LAL. On December 12 2010 03:13 aidnai wrote: Ok, i'm sorry for bringing up smurfs again. Smurf or not *actually* wasn't the main point of post--it's just strange to me that an honest-to-god newbie has no other question about the game than 'what is a smurf'. He looked suspicious, so I wanted to see how/if he reacted. This is just Aidnai trying to seem like he is active and contributing to the game, talking about a subject that doesn't matter at all + Show Spoiler [Minor, Unimportant posts] + On December 11 2010 14:50 aidnai wrote: rofl, you're screwed lsb! unless unfortunate complications arise causing RoL to excuse himself from the game. Actually, I really would love to hear your reasoning on this, rebirth-of-sherlock-fucking-holmes... Question/spamish post. Not much can be gleaned On December 12 2010 03:00 aidnai wrote: From D1 post: On day one, you must vote for a Minister for Magic. Note above the thirty-one eligible candidates. There are thirty-one players. Coincidence? Nope! The Minister will have no further powers beyond day one (no bodyguards, et cetera) and his only game power will be to decide the day one kill. Election will end at 7 PM EST on Sunday, December 12. The kill submission must come before 9 PM EST the same day. Vote for Minister in the voting thread. Not much here either Conclusion Aidnai is mafia, trying to avoid topics and pretend to be active. ##Lynch: Aidnai My final target would be Pandain Please let me know who it should be so I can let annul know. | ||
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On December 13 2010 09:11 Thegilaboy wrote: Will you listen to us if we want anyone other than those 3 Meapak? Or do we have to choose from that list? Just curious what your policy is Well these people have been pretty heavily discussed, I added two other names because they were discussed as well. If you find a really good reason to lynch someone else I'll consider it but I'd like to focus our debate so we can fully analyze the situation. | ||
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On December 13 2010 09:13 orgolove wrote: @Meapak, I voted for you. I hope you make a correct decision. Here's my list again. 1. LSB PMs are supposed to be private. If you're going to post it 1. You better have a good reason, and 2. You better post the whole conversation without any omissions or changes. That's the only way town can maintain its trust in PMs for it to be not posted and not manipulated to fake a red roleclaim. How can anyone who claims to be pro-town to do such a thing? This isn't a photoshop or a writing competition. If you start making up PMs, we go into a no-man's land where the reds can just laugh in the background as towns kill themselves. How can you be any redder? The last game someone posted their full PM conversations and subtly altered them was in Haunted Mafia, by Bill Murray. We all know how that ended up. 2. RebirthOfLegend Throughout his mayoral candidacy, he kept pushing for a decision based on his gut feelings only. Again, if you didn't get it: He kept pushing for this and openly said he won't be held accountable for whoever he kills. i.e. if we chose him as our mayor and he suddenly said, just now, "Oh, I'll just kill XXX because I feel like it, ##lynch XXXX" and XXXX turns out to be blue. We can't say shit since we'd have already given him permission to kill whoever he wants. This goes against the very thing town stands for - the power of numbers over the reds. Both players strongly give off many scum tells. I appreciate your vote however baring massive town resistance I will not be lynching LSB or RoL. They've both mellowed out and have started posting much better and being helpful. I in no way trust them but at this point I'd rather dt check them and then learn the results and go from there. | ||
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On December 13 2010 10:10 Beneather wrote: Wasn't the night suppose to be posted an hour ago just wondering? We still have about 45 minutes... I'd like to wait as long as I can to hear from as many people as possible. | ||
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I wanted to post that once I made my decision but annul told me I had to wait for the night post. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + you are Draco Malfoy! you had a hard life. you almost got caught in with the death eaters and shit. if draco malfoy is alive when five or less players are alive, draco malfoy wins an alternate win. if draco wins by any manner, and is alive when he does so, both lucius malfoy and narcissa malfoy also win. you are not allowed to tell anybody (even your parents) about this ability until dawn of day 6 While we didn't hit a red it sounds like aidnai could have won without the town so at least we hit someone who wasn't pure town. Sorry though Aidnai, if you had posted in the first nine tenths of the game like you did for the last part you probably would have lived. | ||
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On December 14 2010 06:05 ilovejonn wrote: I totally do not agree with Pandain being pro-town.. and I know that lists don't help with anything but I made a one anyway. List of inactive/low post/suspicious count: Kenpachi ghrur Amber[LighT] Barundar kitaman27 Beneather RebirthOfLegend ~OpZ~ why Mr.Zergling Pandain tube LSB chaoser CubeDin Meapak Have you and I been reading the same game? What has cubeDin done to make it on your list? What has Amber or RoL done? What have I done? Why are YOU not on that list? This is just so... bad. Do you have ANY justification for this list? | ||
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On December 14 2010 06:27 ilovejonn wrote: No. It is only a list of people that are either inactive/low post/suspicious. I need further analysis of each of the people on that list and I am slowly gathering information from posts. Of course I am not on that list but feel free to list me as suspicious. Almost everyone on this list has been more helpful and less scummy than yourself (with a few exceptions), and please don't bring up activity, again a lot of the people on this list have been waaaaay more active than you. If you want to help than by all means tell us why these people are scummy but if all you're going to do is name names and point fingers than that doesn't help. At this point you're simply confirming my desire to lynch you asap. | ||
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On December 14 2010 11:37 oddo123 wrote: There are different town-aligned groups in the game. How could you not have known unless you are...MAFIA. What????? | ||
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On December 14 2010 13:25 LSB wrote: Meapak, you want to explain it, or should I? Since RoL is dead I have zero trust in you. But feel free to explain because I'm still hoping you're town. | ||
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On December 14 2010 13:49 Mr.Zergling wrote: Also, you all seem to have admitted to being green in that spreadsheet, but can i get a confirmation from mepeak that the spreadsheet is real? Yeah that spreadsheet is real. | ||
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The same thing just happened to me as happened to LSB. | ||
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On December 14 2010 15:31 LunarDestiny wrote: I DO NOT THINK THAT LYNCHING ORGOLOVE A IS GOOD CHOICE. Look, LSB claims that both orgolove and LSB both contribute to mafia's KP LSB, under huge danger of being lynched, role claimed and also SHITS happened. Orgolove is being lynch because LSB claims he is mafia. If we lynch LSB: Mafia's KP will be reduce and we will find out if he is telling the truth. -If LSB is telling the truth, we lynch Orgolove tomorrow (result:2 mafia lynched) -If LSB is lying (result: 1 mafia lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused) If we lynch Orgolove: Mafia's KP might or might not be reduce depending on if LSB is lying or not. -If LSB is telling the truth, we SHOULD lynch LSB tomorrow unless we find another mafia tomorrow. -If LSB is lying (result: 1 townie lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused). If we want to reduce mafia's KP, we should Lynch LSB today and base tomorrow's lynch based on if LSB is lying or not. Yeah after thinking about it further this makes more sense. Especially since LSB couldn't have known what RoLs check had come back. I'm not going to change my vote from LSB at this point. Although I honestly don't think he's lying about the role block (unless the mafia had him claim to be roleblocked to make me look bad when I said I was roleblocked) at this point him being roleblocked or not is moot. Unless the mafia know who Harry is LSBs protection is a hit or miss thing anyway. | ||
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On December 15 2010 09:01 LunarDestiny wrote: Well... going for orgolove tomorrow. And why would we do this? Orgolove called this from the start. | ||
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Oh and Coag, Kenpachi isn't a good mafia player period regardless if he's scum. He got lynched day one in pokemafia... Just sayin. | ||
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On December 16 2010 07:09 annul wrote: hi its halftime for my exam please get night actions in. people still arent submitting. GOGO ANNUL TL BELIEVES IN YOU!!! | ||
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On December 16 2010 11:50 LunarDestiny wrote: As another check for Kenpachi: Anyone, other than Kenpachi, who was told to name check me, please say so or pm me. It is likely that you are used by the mafia in order to save kenpachi. If no one comes forth, I will believe that Kenpachi is legit. Kenpachi is green. I can guarantee it. | ||
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On December 16 2010 12:03 LunarDestiny wrote: Green as in vanilla town. He is not a dt? You can PM me. | ||
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On December 16 2010 14:43 jcarlsoniv wrote: It says I have a confirmed town-aligned group. Would that not mean all of the members in it are town aligned? I'm talking about the other house members, did their PMs specify that the whole group is town. I'd like a member to come forward and confirm this because if this was true than it would be really easy just to have all the houses claim and lynch anyone who wasn't confirmed and didn't appear in a house. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Fair enough. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Meapak_Ziphh: semantically you've lied a bunch both in the thread and now by pm. I don't trust you at all and unless you feel like coming 100% clean with me I doubt I will trust you (unless of course drh flips red but I doubt he'll be lynched today) at least know this, I don't trust drh any more than I trust you. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From kitaman27: k, I'll call him out myself I suppose. Just so you know it wasn't an alignment check, he claimed Pomfrey, who was already confirmed by another dt. The reason I didn't say anything was that I didn't want to have you be able to track down who Pomfrey was based on who I was talking to. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Meapak_Ziphh: Unfourtunatly I really don't beleive you, coincidentally airbag wanted me to lynch LSB when I got elected MoM. I have no information on your circle whatsoever so. If I were you I'd double check your alignment checker. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From kitaman27: Hey, So I believe my circle has found a scum. I'm pming you because your Ollivander claim makes you appear at least somewhat trustworthy. We would call out this individual ourselves, but I think it would be more beneficial if we kept our identities secret. If our information proves false, then you may hold me responsible by later quoting this pm, however the source has led me to believe he is trustworthy. Airbag/DrH is scum via an alignment check. I would suggest waiting at least a little while before taking any action in order to possibly get any extra analysis from him. It would be appreciated if you would be able to build a case against him and accuse him, when the time is appropriate. If not, then please respond so we can find someone else, but it would be appreciated if you did not mention my name. -Kita | ||
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You guys make a pretty convincing argument, I can't disagree that annul's posting has been pretty scummy. If you'll remember he played haunted mafia as the godfather like he's playing now, acting like he's in control of everything and such  | ||
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On December 19 2010 05:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote: meapak saved amber on night one. it is clear also that a bus driver switched somebody with kenpachi, thus explaining the third hit. | ||
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Hm well this question makes me think you are DoctorHelvetica because in insane mafia one of your main arguments for why you should have been mayor is that you would have been an independant mayor who wouldn't be swayed by bad townies. But that's beside the point . In my case I would listen a lot to the town because there are a lot of good scumhunters in this game and so for my first lynch it'll be important for me to listen to them. Anyway I thought I did better in this game than in my previous two games but after the second night I got so lost I didn't trust anyone who PM'd me and became rather worthless in terms of scum hunting. I wish RoL had survived. Did I say this already? Maybe I need to say it again, I wish RoL had survived. Well nicely done Kita and jcarl. I only wish I had been able to be more helpful. | ||
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