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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
December 08 2010 00:09 GMT
#1301
The ":/" is because I thought the plan had almost no chance of succeeding! My intention with that line was more along the lines of "mark my words..." than a definite statement, and it was dumb to say looking back on it. I had (and have) no trust in the town's ability to identify two mafia with 100% accuracy, and I wasn't happy that that was the plan we were moving forward with-- but I was NOT going to fuck everything up by voting against the town. Problem is, now voting with the town fucks everything up so I have to take the worst of both.
:3
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 08 2010 00:10 GMT
#1302
On December 08 2010 09:09 Eiii wrote:
The ":/" is because I thought the plan had almost no chance of succeeding! My intention with that line was more along the lines of "mark my words..." than a definite statement, and it was dumb to say looking back on it. I had (and have) no trust in the town's ability to identify two mafia with 100% accuracy, and I wasn't happy that that was the plan we were moving forward with-- but I was NOT going to fuck everything up by voting against the town. Problem is, now voting with the town fucks everything up so I have to take the worst of both.


No confidence in town being able to identify two mafia with 100% accuracy? Well our other alternative is to lynch 4 with 100% accuracy. I don't quite see how that is any better.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 08 2010 00:11 GMT
#1303
On December 08 2010 09:09 Eiii wrote:
The ":/" is because I thought the plan had almost no chance of succeeding! My intention with that line was more along the lines of "mark my words..." than a definite statement, and it was dumb to say looking back on it. I had (and have) no trust in the town's ability to identify two mafia with 100% accuracy, and I wasn't happy that that was the plan we were moving forward with-- but I was NOT going to fuck everything up by voting against the town. Problem is, now voting with the town fucks everything up so I have to take the worst of both.



On December 07 2010 08:19 Eiii wrote:
The hatter plan seems best to me too, if I'm understanding correctly.


Looks like you contradict yourself there.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
December 08 2010 00:13 GMT
#1304
On December 07 2010 13:45 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 08:19 Eiii wrote:
The hatter plan seems best to me too, if I'm understanding correctly.


I wasn't, the hatter plan is terrible. I don't feel like we have strong enough leads on two mafia to bet the whole game on not hitting any town with the bombs. If the hatter has any bombs on people he's not 100% sure are mafia, he should recall them asap.


....yeah, then I changed my mind because I actually looked into what lynching the hatter could do instead of going off of everyone's 'this is town's only chance' posts. I didn't know it had such a good chance of killing us when I made that first post.
:3
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 08 2010 00:18 GMT
#1305
On December 08 2010 09:13 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 13:45 Eiii wrote:
On December 07 2010 08:19 Eiii wrote:
The hatter plan seems best to me too, if I'm understanding correctly.


I wasn't, the hatter plan is terrible. I don't feel like we have strong enough leads on two mafia to bet the whole game on not hitting any town with the bombs. If the hatter has any bombs on people he's not 100% sure are mafia, he should recall them asap.


....yeah, then I changed my mind because I actually looked into what lynching the hatter could do instead of going off of everyone's 'this is town's only chance' posts. I didn't know it had such a good chance of killing us when I made that first post.


"If I'm understanding correctly" implies that you already saw the scenario posts and arguments for a MH lynch, no? Are you saying you endorsed the plan without thinking about it?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
December 08 2010 00:22 GMT
#1306
Pretty close to it. I was actually on like a ten minute break between finals at that point, and was most concerned with letting the town know I was supporting them. Obviously I went back and thoroughly read those posts later. I'm not going to pretend it was a good move at all.
:3
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 08 2010 00:35 GMT
#1307
On December 08 2010 09:22 Eiii wrote:
Pretty close to it. I was actually on like a ten minute break between finals at that point, and was most concerned with letting the town know I was supporting them. Obviously I went back and thoroughly read those posts later. I'm not going to pretend it was a good move at all.


After you realized the MH lynch plan was such a poor idea why didn't you post your new opinion in the thread? :/
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
December 08 2010 00:37 GMT
#1308
I DID!

On December 07 2010 13:45 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 08:19 Eiii wrote:
The hatter plan seems best to me too, if I'm understanding correctly.


I wasn't, the hatter plan is terrible. I don't feel like we have strong enough leads on two mafia to bet the whole game on not hitting any town with the bombs. If the hatter has any bombs on people he's not 100% sure are mafia, he should recall them asap.


:3
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 08 2010 00:37 GMT
#1309
Tik tok on the clock, 23 minutes remain
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 08 2010 00:40 GMT
#1310
On December 08 2010 09:37 Eiii wrote:
I DID!

Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 13:45 Eiii wrote:
On December 07 2010 08:19 Eiii wrote:
The hatter plan seems best to me too, if I'm understanding correctly.


I wasn't, the hatter plan is terrible. I don't feel like we have strong enough leads on two mafia to bet the whole game on not hitting any town with the bombs. If the hatter has any bombs on people he's not 100% sure are mafia, he should recall them asap.




Sorry, missed that.

On December 08 2010 09:37 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Tik tok on the clock, 23 minutes remain


You're practically begging us to change the lynch aren't you? :p
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 08 2010 00:58 GMT
#1311
Night 5

The mafia smiled as jcarlsoniv stepped up to the gallows with a determined look on his face. Right as the floor dropped through Jcarlsoniv flipped the switch. With a solemn expression on his face, Radfield exploded and across the room KtheZ began cheering when he saw the red blood of radfield only to hear a click come from his backpack.
Jcarlsoniv the Mad Hatter had died.
KtheZ the Townie had died.
Radfield the Witch had died.

Southrawrea, EsbenPM, and Nemesis(protactinium) grinned as they overcame the last of the town.

Mafia Victory.

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If anyone wants to reupload it to a good site let me know, I don't know any freeupload sites anymore, haven't used them in years to upload, only download.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 08 2010 00:59 GMT
#1312
Oh and southrawrea was the Elder fyi. Mafia KP formula was Elder worth 1 KP = 2 until 1 witch remained (not counting elder)
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 08 2010 01:01 GMT
#1313
GG. Well played South. Looks like we lynched the wrong vet.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
December 08 2010 01:02 GMT
#1314
OH LOLLL I VOTED AFTER THE GAME FINISHED
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
December 08 2010 01:03 GMT
#1315
Well at least I was right about our "confirmed green".

And I also knew Radfield was red, when he started panicking at the end.

But yeah, I would've guessed Node/Glasse to be #3.

GG.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 08 2010 01:04 GMT
#1316
From what I skimmed, did Jcarlsoniv keep saying his second target was Eii? Because he never actually had a bomb on Eii. You guys didn't do anywhere near enough analysis later on and I don't know why after you lynch the first veteran you didn't move to the second "veteran". Something I learned a few games ago, if you know that one of two people are mafia kill them both.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 08 2010 01:05 GMT
#1317
On December 08 2010 10:02 SouthRawrea wrote:
OH LOLLL I VOTED AFTER THE GAME FINISHED


I demand a modkill. This game is under protest.

You were dt checked day one right?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 08 2010 01:07 GMT
#1318
On December 08 2010 10:03 CubEdIn wrote:
Well at least I was right about our "confirmed green".

And I also knew Radfield was red, when he started panicking at the end.

But yeah, I would've guessed Node/Glasse to be #3.

GG.

I actually think that was used to make sure you guys would follow with the plan. Imagine if there was no resistance, especially from a pretty much known mafia player. You guys might realize that you didn't have one of the bombs on a red and were thus losing the game. So him fighting against the lynch made more sense and confirmed your guys suspicion.

At least that is what I assumed radfield was doing, since lynching jcarl won them the game. you guys should of just lynched Radfield or another mafia suspect. A more conservative route was definitely better in this situation the inner circle was completely compromised and the mafia knew everything that was happening since day one. AKA they knew where all the bombs were.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 08 2010 01:10 GMT
#1319
Awww oh well.

No, I never said the second bomb was on Eiii. That was a ruse put on by kita.
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CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
December 08 2010 01:11 GMT
#1320
On December 08 2010 10:04 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
From what I skimmed, did Jcarlsoniv keep saying his second target was Eii? Because he never actually had a bomb on Eii. You guys didn't do anywhere near enough analysis later on and I don't know why after you lynch the first veteran you didn't move to the second "veteran". Something I learned a few games ago, if you know that one of two people are mafia kill them both.


My guess is that youngminii played it badly. He died, he should've taken the other guy with him, since the whole town was going "no way, there's just ONE vet", he was claiming that there are two, when, in fact, he should've been going "fine, but if I'm not red, know that that other guy is prolly GF, take him down".

It's a sacrifice, something close to what I was trying to do with L when I was pushed in Insane mafia, and if it would've worked, we'd have had the GF dead.

But youngminii managed to convince people that there are 2 vets. /facepalm

Also, Dr.H was pushing Radfield a lot, after he died, Rad should've been TOAST. Not even thinking about it, just lynch and forget about it.

People should be a lot more ruthless when it comes to Mafia, and should analyze FACTS before posts.

If you're relying one lynch on "there is only one veteran", then you better stick with that to the grave. If you're pushing Radfield, and then the next night you die, people should be thinking "maybe there's a connection there".

But of course, this is all looking back, so it's easy. I had no clue about any of the other mafia, but Rad & South were kinda obivous.
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