EPTKill Brownbear first tomorrow guys.
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LSB
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Kill Brownbear first tomorrow guys. | ||
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Hesmyrr
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Pandain
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On November 15 2010 03:44 LSB wrote: It's lylo tomorrow, and kingmaker, make me king if you want to kill Brownbear. Shouldn't we discuss it first rather than just blindly lynching Brownbear? Just because Amber is innocent doesn't make Brownbear scum :/ | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On November 14 2010 15:35 Hesmyrr wrote: ##Vote: Amber[Light] execute: Amber[Light] Sorry for not waiting CubEdin's vote but really need to sleep. Almost 4 AM already =/ I apologize if I have made a wrong decision. LSB's arguments were definitely the most persuasive one I have seen in this thread, but there were some things I just could not get over and I somewhat trust orgolove/less so on Pandain at moment. Still extremely hard decision. My drowsiness induces me to kill CubEdin for just sake of him going MIA but that's kinda unfair, considering I have yet to pay any attention to him at the moment... either way good night. Wondering why Hesmyrr didn't pay attention to my Brownbear stuff. On November 14 2010 12:00 Amber[LighT] wrote: I'm going to address your points as best as possible. I apologize for any discrepancies w/ regards to the language barrier. I understand not everyone speaks English first, so I will address what I can... The use of the relics: My thought when I read the description of the game and the various roles, even before Day 1 began, was that the relics could be used for a couple of scenarios: a. The assassins could use this as a mechanism to divert blame away from making a decision that could bite them in the ass. This could increase trust with the King that used the relic because they felt that the town could benefit as a whole by not having a lynch directly come back to them later. b. The assassins could use them to make sure that the town could not take advantage of these abilities later in the game. When you think about it, using Merlin for pro-town purposes is most beneficial during the first day, and the first day only. The worth of using this ability decreases day after day. The assassins could eventually use this ability to cause utter confusion at any point, making the worth of using it stay relatively the same throughout the game. The opposite actually applies for the other relic. That ability will increase in worth as the days go on, since the odds of hitting an assassin increase (see below) : *Assuming assassins never get hit: Day 1 --> 2/9 chance Day 2 --> 2/7 chance Day 3 --> 2/5 chance Day 4 --> 2/3 chance (useless by then, but still worth noting) **I am \ assuming that the sword also takes out the sitting king by random. If not then subtract 1 person per day. The worth of the ability would increase for an assassin king to use though. It would appear that using the sword early is risky, but beneficial for the mafia. By today though, the worth of either ability has diminished so I doubt either party will jump to use them. By today though I think even talking about the relics is pointless. I think the consensus of the town is that we would rather not use them. I am okay with this decision. Also I replied to the most pressing issue in Orgoloves post. If he felt I did anything to not fulfill a complete response he could have asked me to respond again and rephrase the question. He did not. He made another post today that rehashed similar posting habits from his day 1 posts and I replied accordingly. Also don't think that there is a 100% chance that there will be a mafia king. The kingmaker could actually be lucky enough to analyze players that are playing very pro-town. It's important for the kingmaker to do his part and analyze the players behind the scenes and avoid picking scum players. We could go through the whole game without ever having an assassin king. Congrats to the kingmaker if that happens. Wondering why Hesmyrr didn't answer this. | ||
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Hesmyrr
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And yes, I stated that I struggled with the decision and I wouldn't have so if I had simply chosen to ignore your argument. The voter composition was in fact one of the decisive factors that decided me on my choice of lynch for the day. The fact that majority of Amber[LighT] post was all about discussion of mechanics over other players - which orgolove and BrownBear did, at least in paltry amount - did not help matters either. BrownBear being mia and not answering my question was kinda stupid but so was Amber[LighT] and Pandain. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
If you want, you could have argued with him over it. However you did,'t. You choose to lynch the person who wasn't responsive at all, and dismissed accusations as On November 14 2010 11:15 BrownBear wrote: ugh. There seems to be a lot of pressure on me, for really stupid reasons. Without explaining why | ||
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Hesmyrr
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CubEdIn
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I will need to hear orgolove and pandain's arguments or else they're the prime suspects on my list. Sorry, but after tonight there will be only 5 people left, and I really can't stand semi-lurking. I was away too, and it's the weekend, fine, but we need to hear arguments. Also, if we're gonna use merlin, it will have to be now. If we flip a red, we'll have 2v2 (after the reds kill one player, that night), and one red will be revealed, thus killed, leading to a 2v1 situation, which is basically a coin-flip for the king-maker. I'm not saying it's the best solution, since to me, the chances of uncovering a red now are relatively close to random, so we might as well use the sword and have a kill as well. It's a tough choice, but this is where the game gets interesting. It might be do-or-die. Ima go sleep. If I die, please consider what I just said. | ||
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CubEdIn
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So not really the best scenario :/ | ||
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LSB
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On November 15 2010 08:55 CubEdIn wrote: Bleh. Nobody is paying attention to me. I will need to hear orgolove and pandain's arguments or else they're the prime suspects on my list. Sorry, but after tonight there will be only 5 people left, and I really can't stand semi-lurking. I was away too, and it's the weekend, fine, but we need to hear arguments. Also, if we're gonna use merlin, it will have to be now. If we flip a red, we'll have 2v2 (after the reds kill one player, that night), and one red will be revealed, thus killed, leading to a 2v1 situation, which is basically a coin-flip for the king-maker. I'm not saying it's the best solution, since to me, the chances of uncovering a red now are relatively close to random, so we might as well use the sword and have a kill as well. It's a tough choice, but this is where the game gets interesting. It might be do-or-die. Ima go sleep. If I die, please consider what I just said. Uhh... Day already ended. We can't use merlin anymore. (It's a day action) | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Night 2 ![[image loading]](http://www.ihategreenbeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/tombstone-clipart.gif) Oh yes! We're back! Let's get things right on track! It's Day 3! Oh gee! A new King for free! Just one more mistake - this town is goner Hope the Village does right cuz this game is a yawner Then again, if they do mess up this time at least I can stop with these corny rhymes LSB, Villager has been killed 5 little Villagers meet in the Town Square 3 of them are good, noble and fair 1 is the maker of Kings with power The Hero is dead, once known for his valor 2 of them villains that make you cower And one shall be crowned King at this important hour! Oh but be careful, for this can end dreadful 3 Villagers, 2 Assassins, how did this end up so awful It's do or die, the last stand, LYLO some call it whatever happens today someone surely will forfeit Day 3 ends in 48 hours from now! | ||
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
Everything LSB has said regarding the town applies. We need to kill Brownbear. ##Lynch: Brownbear After that get Hesmyrr. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
No point in voting just yet, as we can cause a fuss over nothing and get another blue lynched. If we don't get a red lynched then town is fucked. So hold your horses for a bit till we know who king is. Otherwise, you can get into dumb arguments. Like say, if Brownbear is king, then he will surely not kill himself, and maybe go for orgolove for voting for him. This is not wise, not at this very scary time. Let's just calm down and try to make a good choice, at least once. So, who's king? | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
diaeeeeeeeeeeeeeee | ||
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CubEdIn
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Lol. | ||
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CubEdIn
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+1 proof that nobody listens to me.  | ||
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Hesmyrr
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