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On December 02 2010 05:20 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 05:19 Ace wrote:
Considering KoW attacked Nation in Despair that kills that explanation.
Sharkpark wasn't near Kow Night 1. Neither was the Republic of Texas. So they are out.
Likewise, if Pandain attacked KoW then why send aid?
Looks like you're out of cards, chum. Anyways, the list actually is Pandain, Nation in Dispair, or Rainbow Rumpus Room. I don't know where you got the idea that Pandain attacked you, that's not true. Kingjames01 attacked you.
Ok, so by your logic and process of elimination, Rainbow Rumpus Room would be scum, right? He was guerrilla, would caller give guerrilla to mafia? Quite possibly, I think he would.
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Wait... whaaa?
Pandain and Nation in Dispair could still be mafia
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can you only send aid to territories adjacent to you?
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On December 02 2010 03:00 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 02:51 ~OpZ~ wrote:On December 02 2010 02:46 Ace wrote:
What night actions performed in SIFZ makes them innocent?
Likewise what night actions performed by the provinces around KOW makes them mafia?
Explain please. I wasn't attacked, the moves to the south of me were planned, but don't make them innocent. I said I trust them moreso because of this, I didn't say it makes them innocent. I asked for information earlier, no body gave it, except LSB and Chezinu. You've been rather cryptic and less willing to discuss about certain people. Why would I think Loanshark was mafia? he is a lurker that is clearly here a lot. He made moves to get near kingdom of whoring, and set a deal with Annul so annul wouldn't push for his lynch. Hiding under the table, I feel. Actually I should be pushing for Loanshark. Anyway, someone had to help KoW defend. And with how aggressive KoW has been, he has to be receiving constant aid. I find that frightening. If Loanshark is a lurker, then so is ghrur, Lexpar, Nemesis, Coagulation and pretty much all the provinces on that side of the map. AFAIK Loanshark has only made deals with annul that has proven them both to be town. Annul would be kind of silly to push for Loanshark's lynch after LS just gave him back his land wouldn't he? :/ Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 02:51 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 02 2010 02:46 Ace wrote:
What night actions performed in SIFZ makes them innocent?
Likewise what night actions performed by the provinces around KOW makes them mafia?
Explain please. LSB has explained that, on Night 1, since province 17 told LSB he attacked KoW, and the attack didn't go through, that KoW MUST be mafia because he had defense while also attacking. LSB has then narrowed down that NLP sent aid to KoW on Night 1. I don't understand, though, why NLP would send aid on Night 1... Ditto. Which is the major snag in linking the 2 countries together. I could understand if say...Night 2 after KoW has already been attacked he got aid from NPL because then he'd know he was a target. It's Night 1 - neither of them know they'll be attacked. Both are surrounded by countries, and even better NPL had access to multiple neutral lands iirc. So if NPL was an Elite Soldier why would he use an action to send aid to KoW and not try and grab 2 territories? Add in the fact that we didn't have the rule about losing all provinces means death and this scenario falls flat on it's face. If my information about recent attacks on KoW also add up then explain how NPL was able to gain a territory the same night that KoW was attacked and didn't lose land. If an ES only has 1 use and NPL got land then he can't send aid to KoW. KoW would have lost land in that attack. See ~OpZ~ - you blame me for not scumhunting. I blame you people for not thinking logically and putting the pieces together.
Lol....Tired of being the backbone? I guess I need to rethink some shit.
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On December 02 2010 07:57 annul wrote:
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can you only send aid to territories adjacent to you?
Good point. With the advent of Permanent alliances, I don't belive we can use last nights data to figure out who sent aid.
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On December 02 2010 06:44 LSB wrote:
Wait... whaaa?
Pandain and Nation in Dispair could still be mafia
Sorry, I was thinking pandain attacked KoW.
But since KoW attacked Nation in Despair, I don't think it's likely that KoW and NiD are allied.
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On December 02 2010 08:51 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 07:57 annul wrote:
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can you only send aid to territories adjacent to you? Good point. With the advent of Permanent alliances, I don't belive we can use last nights data to figure out who sent aid.
That's true. The scum in SIFZ could have PA'd with KoW and sent him aid.
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Well since we didn't get PA's till after Night 1 then you'd have to explain that now too
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On December 02 2010 10:23 Ace wrote:Well since we didn't get PA's till after Night 1 then you'd have to explain that now too
I did explain NoLanPlan
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Ok so if I get this straight this is your case:
NPL is an Elite Soldier and is Scum with KoW and sent aid and attacked Night 1. Even though sending aid would be pretty much a toss up since both of them can be equally attacked and NPL also had a neutral territory right next to him.
Ok.
Then once NPL uses up his ES ability aka wasting aid - then Caller gives all of us the PA ability. Now the argument is that NPL sent aid to KoW via PA? Is that it?
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By the way my earlier explanation already debunked your NPL sent aid Night 1 to KoW. Try harder.
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Firstly you did not debunk the fact that NPL sent you aid night one. You simply said that NPL might not want to send you aid. However, this is ignoring the fact that they Mafia really wants to protect you, since they know how powerful an unlynchable person could be. They would then insure that you have aid every night in order to secure your borders.
Here's the story.
Night one, NPL the elite scum attacks and sends you aid.
Later on you get in a private alliance with some scum nation XXX.
Scum Nation XXX sends you aid. You successfully defend.
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How can mafia aid me if I've never had a PA with anyone during the game?
Also since no one knew my location, how can they aid me Night 1? They can't.
The people that know my role know exactly why you guys are trying to hard to pin everything on me. It's quite laughable really. Think smarter. The explanation is so simple if you just read the rules.
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Your scumbuddies obviously know where you are and easily could get into a PA with you.
Are you trying to imply you are bulletproof and unlynchable? Or some other role?
Or maybe this?
Mafia may have special roles.
EDIT: Looks like this is what I spent my 1500 post on... oh well..
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Except that I'm not Scum so no one knew my location and couldn't PA with me.
I've already revealed part of my role publicly, and told the people that matter my full role. Keep trying to link me to places you suspect are scum though, makes for some real nice bed time reading.
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On December 02 2010 11:19 Ace wrote:
Except that I'm not Scum so no one knew my location and couldn't PA with me.
I've already revealed part of my role publicly, and told the people that matter my full role. Keep trying to link me to places you suspect are scum though, makes for some real nice bed time reading.
Dresden Files makes great bed time reading, might keep you awake. Right now I'm listening to the I Am America (Colbert) Audio book. I fall asleep within 30-60 minutes, so it's taking longer than I expected. He's hilarious though.
As for you. Your only defense is "I Haz Super Secrete role that makes me invincible. LSB is wrong obviously, but I won't tell you why." Seems a bit convenient and altogether fabricated.
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I feel like this little argument will never end until night pops...
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Ace, what do you think of lynching Vedril?
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meh. I'm pretty indifferent.
I'd rather lynch Pandain, you, or someone in SIFZ though. Especially Lexpar.
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On December 02 2010 11:23 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 11:19 Ace wrote:
Except that I'm not Scum so no one knew my location and couldn't PA with me.
I've already revealed part of my role publicly, and told the people that matter my full role. Keep trying to link me to places you suspect are scum though, makes for some real nice bed time reading.
Dresden Files makes great bed time reading, might keep you awake. Right now I'm listening to the I Am America (Colbert) Audio book. I fall asleep within 30-60 minutes, so it's taking longer than I expected. He's hilarious though. As for you. Your only defense is "I Haz Super Secrete role that makes me invincible. LSB is wrong obviously, but I won't tell you why." Seems a bit convenient and altogether fabricated.
I've heard of Dresden Files, what's it about?
My defense is you keep trying to link me to suspects and I'm telling you I'm not linked to anyone. Simple really.
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