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On November 28 2010 16:06 kingjames01 wrote:I didn't post in the thread. I was doing it via irc and PMs. Other players discounted the possibility and argued that annul is not as good of a thinker as Ace. I disagreed. Anyways, note that Caller posted information about Ace in RED. Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 05:17 Caller wrote:
Oh dear, the hangman screwed up!. Ace's lynch today has failed. Too much neck fat, me thinks. Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 09:52 Caller wrote:
ace had enough votes to get lynched but his neck was too fat and the hangman didnt adjust for it He's pretty much confirmed himself as mafia and now Caller is putting it out there too.
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Ace is going to die anyway. All we need is someone like me near Ace.
And no. Caller did not confirm him as mafia. You're just giving Ace a stronger case against you now. Good Job.
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Alright, I'm going to take care of a few things in this post so it could be long.
On November 27 2010 05:17 Caller wrote:
In other news, the washed up corpses of zerroth, Beneather, and drag_ were found today. It was also discovered that Kenpachi had abdicated and left the country.
Also, it appears that certain territories have fallen to the Shinmafigumi, namely, provinces 28 and 5. It appears that in other places their influence has been quashed.
Caller:
- For the players who died, specifically zerroth, should we not get their roles? I'm interested to see what ability zerroth had.
- We need an updated map! How do we interpret the states that have been taken over by the mafia, namely Provinces 5 and 28? Do they have a name?
Next, I can reveal now what I found out from Caller via PM. I was asked to not share it with anyone until the Night post and I have complied. Beneather, drag_ and Kenpachi were modkilled for inactivity.
That just leaves zerroth unaccounted for. It has been revealed that he was Province 28 or ~spermicide~. This was his only Province and it was taken by the mafia. That explains why he has been eliminated. This also explains why the player who controls The Rebirthing Shinmafigumi was not eliminated as well.
Now, let's get to business.
As town, we need a good plan. However, we also need to have good support for any good plan. I am going to propose such a plan and I am asking any interested pro-town player for support.
First, here is the list of players who I strongly suspect of being mafia:
- Hesmyrr - Sakura Gaibun - lynched
- Ace
- annul - eight equals equals equals capital D
- ~OpZ~ - "Province 30"
I have other players who are possibly mafia, but I will not list them here.
Ace
As you can see, at the moment, we do NOT know the location of Ace. However, WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY, before Caller's Night 4 post, I narrowed him down to the following kingdoms.
- Hojo House
- NoLanPlan
- KingdomOfWhoring
- Super Spitze
IF WE WANT TO REMOVE ACE, THEN WE MUST ATTACK THESE NATIONS.
If you are a player who controls a nation from this list and do not want to be attacked then you MUST claim your nation.
annul
Everyone who voted for Ace and feels cheated by the result, please support the elimination of annul. Let's remedy the situation that we have found ourselves in. We know that he is in Province 19 from his previous claim.
On November 17 2010 10:33 annul wrote:
8===D
is my country. get it? ;D
Apparently, he gets it.
Currently, he only has one province. If he loses his last province tonight then we won't have to waste a lynch on him tomorrow. The only way he should be allowed to dodge the lynch is if he proves that he is in fact town.
On November 25 2010 09:25 annul wrote:
KEEP ME ALIVE AND I WILL PROVE I AM TOWN TONIGHT.
On November 25 2010 23:22 annul wrote:
THIS is why i did not want to pop my power so early. but if you people need me to prove townness as such, then i have to right =\
i WILL prove myself if i have to tonight. if this matters to the town.
On November 28 2010 05:37 annul wrote:
actually i am not going to use my ability.
annul, use your ability tonight, if you can.
IF WE WANT TO REMOVE ANNUL, THEN WE MUST LYNCH HIM TOMORROW OR ATTACK HIM TONIGHT.
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~OpZ~
- Controls "Province 30" - Province 24, 25
- Claimed Gunpowder ability
If you're ever going to try to pretend that you are at least town, then maybe you should consider this action for tonight.
USE YOUR GUNPOWDER ABILITY TO ATTACK ANNUL.
This will remove annul from the game and then you can take credit for eliminating Hesmyrr AND annul. If you do not comply, then it will be very hard to convince the Town that you are acting in their best interests.
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On November 28 2010 10:29 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 07:45 Caller wrote:On November 28 2010 07:41 LSB wrote:
Are mafia revealed when they loose all their territories? wat For example, country 31 is mafia. Country 31 gets invaded by country 32 and looses all their territories. Will Country 31 be flipped?
theres a very good reason why im not flipping roles. go figure it out
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On November 28 2010 06:29 annul wrote:
if i ever have 0 territory, instead of dying, i will continue to live, so long as my guerilla power is unused.
Everyone, since annul does not want to demonstrate his ability to us, let's put it to the test.
He's in Province 19. Five players border his nation. ~OpZ~, one of those players, has Gunpowder.
He can't die if we take away his last province right? So, let's take it and see.
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oh Flamewheel... are you going to be giving us commentary after the game? I'm interested in hearing from an outside viewer.
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lol kingjames when did you EVER tell me you thought ace had the ability to dodge lynches, and if you didn't tell me, I'm pretty sure you probably told nobody. And if you didn't tell me, then :/.
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I say we lynch kingjames. His accusations don't seem to make much sense and we shouldn't have too much trouble getting votes considering some of the responses.
I find it suspicious that he is pushing OpZ and annul to use their abilities in order to "prove township". That is downright stupid and hurts town. Both abilities will be lost. You are putting them in a situation reminiscent of a witch trial.
"Hey, if she drowns, then she's not a witch."
"Hey, if annul and OpZ use their powers, then it proves township but then we basically just waste two town abilities"
Can you blame them for not wanting to follow your dumb plan? Possibly you will and try to change that into uncooperation and push for a lynch.
Also, please show us where the fuck you tried to say Ace had lynch dodging abilities. A quote from this thread. I find it unlikely that you managed to come up with this idea beforehand.
Plus, this list of provinces that Ace holds is suspicious too. Ace claims that if he loses a province, he immediately dies. Maybe it might be true, maybe not. But if it's true, then it's unlikely he is KingdomOfWhoring because that holds three provinces, and Super Spitze holds none.
# Hojo House
# NoLanPlan
# KingdomOfWhoring
# Super Spitze
How did you arrive so surely at these four? Show me your analysis. The map isn't up to date yet and there are lots of other possible territories lying around.
If you truly are town, kingjames, please change your stance on these issues and reply to some of my demands for proof. I think I speak for some others too when I say this.
I don't disagree with the analysis that Ace could possibly be mafia and have his power too, though.
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On November 23 2010 04:53 kingjames01 wrote:As requested. Shinmafigumi are crossed out with Red X's. Coagulation might have a more elegant solution. ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/JQQlh.jpg)
I'm confused by this map. what does annul have? just 20?
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Easy Fabreezy. I got this.
Someone is to make a permanent alliance with annul. They will send aid to him.
I just need a full accurate map of what we know, and we should be able to figure this out.
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i have 19.
i had 20. it was attacked by loanshark the same night i attacked 19.
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ps isnt it day phase why is caller replying to the thread without posting day phase =(
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Actually annul use your ability. If you ARE attacked, then we just found mafia  (they took it over)
Unless there are flaws in this plan, in which case please say so.
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hold the phone im giving some people some more time.
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there are flaws in this plan.
i have a contingency in place. if for some reason it fails, you will know and we will also have a mafia. a different one.
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On November 28 2010 23:21 annul wrote:
there are flaws in this plan.
i have a contingency in place. if for some reason it fails, you will know and we will also have a mafia. a different one.
+ Show Spoiler +A different one? Different from what. You? 
Indubitably, we WILL have a mafia. Is that not good for town?
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Oh Pandain, why are you trying so hard to kill me.
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different from ace (who i actually believe is town)
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All right. Answering a few questions before I get along to start posting information
1) On November 28 2010 15:13 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 05:17 Caller wrote:
Oh dear, the hangman screwed up!. Ace's lynch today has failed. Too much neck fat, me thinks. Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 09:52 Caller wrote:
ace had enough votes to get lynched but his neck was too fat and the hangman didnt adjust for it I AM SO MAD RIGHT NOW. I TOLD YOU GUYS, OVER AND OVER. Town, I argued for days in irc and PMs that Ace has the ability to dodge lynches. This is why annul was supposed to be the first lynch.
PM Proof please, either that or post it in the thread. I don’t believe you.
2) On November 28 2010 16:42 kingjames01 wrote:Alright, I'm going to take care of a few things in this post so it could be long. Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 05:17 Caller wrote:
In other news, the washed up corpses of zerroth, Beneather, and drag_ were found today. It was also discovered that Kenpachi had abdicated and left the country.
Also, it appears that certain territories have fallen to the Shinmafigumi, namely, provinces 28 and 5. It appears that in other places their influence has been quashed.
Caller:
- For the players who died, specifically zerroth, should we not get their roles? I'm interested to see what ability zerroth had.
- We need an updated map! How do we interpret the states that have been taken over by the mafia, namely Provinces 5 and 28? Do they have a name?
Zerroth was Navy
I’d like the second question Answered too
Next, I can reveal now what I found out from Caller via PM. I was asked to not share it with anyone until the Night post and I have complied. Beneather, drag_ and Kenpachi were modkilled for inactivity.
Beneather was taken over. That’s why he became inactive[/quote]
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- Hojo House
- NoLanPlan
- KingdomOfWhoring
- Super Spitze
IF WE WANT TO REMOVE ACE, THEN WE MUST ATTACK THESE NATIONS.
NO. Do not attack random nations. Ace has a specific nation, and in my next post, I’ll outline what it is.
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On November 28 2010 16:48 kingjames01 wrote:~OpZ~- Controls "Province 30" - Province 24, 25
- Claimed Gunpowder ability
If you're ever going to try to pretend that you are at least town, then maybe you should consider this action for tonight. USE YOUR GUNPOWDER ABILITY TO ATTACK ANNUL.This will remove annul from the game and then you can take credit for eliminating Hesmyrr AND annul. If you do not comply, then it will be very hard to convince the Town that you are acting in their best interests.
~OpZ~ is probably town. And I agree, OpZ you should take out Annul.
5) On November 28 2010 20:07 Loanshark wrote:
I say we lynch kingjames. His accusations don't seem to make much sense and we shouldn't have too much trouble getting votes considering some of the responses.
I find it suspicious that he is pushing OpZ and annul to use their abilities in order to "prove township". That is downright stupid and hurts town. Both abilities will be lost. You are putting them in a situation reminiscent of a witch trial.
"Hey, if she drowns, then she's not a witch."
"Hey, if annul and OpZ use their powers, then it proves township but then we basically just waste two town abilities"
Can you blame them for not wanting to follow your dumb plan? Possibly you will and try to change that into uncooperation and push for a lynch.
Also, please show us where the fuck you tried to say Ace had lynch dodging abilities. A quote from this thread. I find it unlikely that you managed to come up with this idea beforehand.
Plus, this list of provinces that Ace holds is suspicious too. Ace claims that if he loses a province, he immediately dies. Maybe it might be true, maybe not. But if it's true, then it's unlikely he is KingdomOfWhoring because that holds three provinces, and Super Spitze holds none.
# Hojo House
# NoLanPlan
# KingdomOfWhoring
# Super Spitze
How did you arrive so surely at these four? Show me your analysis. The map isn't up to date yet and there are lots of other possible territories lying around.
If you truly are town, kingjames, please change your stance on these issues and reply to some of my demands for proof. I think I speak for some others too when I say this.
I don't disagree with the analysis that Ace could possibly be mafia and have his power too, though.
Kingjames is jumping the gun. Let me to it next post.
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