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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 28 2010 17:17 GMT
#1401
In kingjames' defense, he did say to me that he believed Ace would have some sort of lynch avoiding ability. I don't, however, have proof, so I can't actually show the evidence.
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 28 2010 17:24 GMT
#1402
Actually. I'll wait for a while. There's one more piece to the puzzle
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 28 2010 17:28 GMT
#1403
On November 28 2010 20:07 Loanshark wrote:
How did you arrive so surely at these four? Show me your analysis. The map isn't up to date yet and there are lots of other possible territories lying around.


I know who owns every other Province. Actually, there are 6 remaining that I have not figured out. The Provinces that are missing is Asakura and Nation In Despair.

The list of nations that Ace must belong to is as follows:

  • Hojo House
  • NoLanPlan
  • Nation in Despair.
  • KingdomOfWhoring
  • Super Spitze
  • Asakura


If someone doubts me, then that person should PM me and I'll PM you back with your nation. Obviously only do this if you have not claimed in the thread. I can do this with EVERY NATION not on this list. That leaves a short list of 6. Two have no provinces left. Three have 1 Province left.

If Ace had no Provinces left then he'd be unkillable. Assuming that is not the case, he must belong to:

  • Hojo House
  • NoLanPlan
  • Nation in Despair.
  • KingdomOfWhoring


These are the nations that we must look into if we want to find Ace.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 28 2010 17:33 GMT
#1404
as long as i do not pop the power, you will not be able to take me out during night phase, FYI.

you may say that this is more reason to kill all my land. it isnt. it would leave me landless and then forced to pop the power eventually, when instead, if you actually believe my towniness, let me live with my land and scumhunt.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 28 2010 17:34 GMT
#1405
On November 28 2010 16:48 kingjames01 wrote:
~OpZ~

  • Controls "Province 30" - Province 24, 25
  • Claimed Gunpowder ability


If you're ever going to try to pretend that you are at least town, then maybe you should consider this action for tonight.

USE YOUR GUNPOWDER ABILITY TO ATTACK ANNUL.

This will remove annul from the game and then you can take credit for eliminating Hesmyrr AND annul. If you do not comply, then it will be very hard to convince the Town that you are acting in their best interests.


You're the only one who has asked for annul to die. YOUR OPINION OF THE TOWNS BEST INTEREST. I want more information BEFORE I DO ANYTHING to eliminate people.

-_-...Notice you know my provinces?

Notice you know my actions? I ALREADY HIT HESMYRR negating anything his ability could have done.
-_____________-

I've done proven my townie. Town isn't playing though. Coag, just sitting in shadows. Pandain, just came out the shadows.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 28 2010 17:34 GMT
#1406
btw if LSB knows all this shit, he should definitely share it in the thread.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 28 2010 17:35 GMT
#1407
If you have the power, you'll still have land. You don't help with scum-hunting anyway.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 28 2010 17:39 GMT
#1408
On November 28 2010 20:07 Loanshark wrote:
I say we lynch kingjames. His accusations don't seem to make much sense and we shouldn't have too much trouble getting votes considering some of the responses.

I find it suspicious that he is pushing OpZ and annul to use their abilities in order to "prove township". That is downright stupid and hurts town. Both abilities will be lost. You are putting them in a situation reminiscent of a witch trial.
"Hey, if she drowns, then she's not a witch."
"Hey, if annul and OpZ use their powers, then it proves township but then we basically just waste two town abilities"
Can you blame them for not wanting to follow your dumb plan? Possibly you will and try to change that into uncooperation and push for a lynch.

Also, please show us where the fuck you tried to say Ace had lynch dodging abilities. A quote from this thread. I find it unlikely that you managed to come up with this idea beforehand.

Plus, this list of provinces that Ace holds is suspicious too. Ace claims that if he loses a province, he immediately dies. Maybe it might be true, maybe not. But if it's true, then it's unlikely he is KingdomOfWhoring because that holds three provinces, and Super Spitze holds none.
# Hojo House
# NoLanPlan
# KingdomOfWhoring
# Super Spitze

How did you arrive so surely at these four? Show me your analysis. The map isn't up to date yet and there are lots of other possible territories lying around.

If you truly are town, kingjames, please change your stance on these issues and reply to some of my demands for proof. I think I speak for some others too when I say this.

I don't disagree with the analysis that Ace could possibly be mafia and have his power too, though.


I agree. Ace could very well still be mafia with that power. I will not at all change my view from that. But I believe Annul to be innocent. HE WANTED THE TOWN TO CLAIM LAND IN ORDER TO CONTROL what mafia are capable of. I want the same thing. Mafia will be screwed from attacking if everyone claims.

Lets say I know who's around me. I'm bordered by 5 spots. 3 people total border me. If I knew who they were, and I was attacked and defended, I would know I have a mafia near me if everyone claimed.

But no body wants to do this? Why on Earth not?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 28 2010 17:41 GMT
#1409
On November 29 2010 02:34 annul wrote:
btw if LSB knows all this shit, he should definitely share it in the thread.

You need to use your ability.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 28 2010 17:42 GMT
#1410
On November 29 2010 02:33 annul wrote:
as long as i do not pop the power, you will not be able to take me out during night phase, FYI.

you may say that this is more reason to kill all my land. it isnt. it would leave me landless and then forced to pop the power eventually, when instead, if you actually believe my towniness, let me live with my land and scumhunt.

Honestly, I have no problem at all popping your land tonight. I don't care if you don't have land. If it isn't going to kill you it doesn't matter. I want to go to the right on the map anyway...
But I wouldn't be doing it for kingjames....

Fuck PM land.

LSB invited me to SIFZ...
-___-
But I really dunno if I wanna take it. I'm fine not attacking them as of the moment.

But I want some damn information, and no body wants to say shit in the thread.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 28 2010 17:43 GMT
#1411
On November 29 2010 02:41 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 02:34 annul wrote:
btw if LSB knows all this shit, he should definitely share it in the thread.

You need to use your ability.

I agree that he should use his ability. If you don't Annul, there will definitely be problems.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 28 2010 17:45 GMT
#1412
i am not using the ability tonight

if you truly believe i am mafia, take me out on the game board. then when i dont flip, "oops"
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 28 2010 17:46 GMT
#1413
On November 29 2010 02:45 annul wrote:
i am not using the ability tonight

if you truly believe i am mafia, take me out on the game board. then when i dont flip, "oops"

And this is where he goes against his word, the will of the town, and reason.

Marks of a mafia, I would say, Dear Sherlock.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 28 2010 17:51 GMT
#1414
the will of four people, who may or may not be town themselves.

by the way, some people have PMed me requesting i DONT use it. so its not just the four or five of you.

reason states i should not use it unless i absolutely have to to prove townness. i am gambling that i can evade a vote tomorrow by those of you who wish to see me dead (read: likely mafia). consider the following: IF i am lynched, and you see my blue card flip over, look ridiculously hard at all the people illogically pushing on me. i bet you there are at least 2 mafia in this bunch. at least.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 28 2010 17:53 GMT
#1415
On November 29 2010 02:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:
But I believe Annul to be innocent. HE WANTED THE TOWN TO CLAIM LAND IN ORDER TO CONTROL what mafia are capable of. I want the same thing. Mafia will be screwed from attacking if everyone claims.


You keep saying these really poorly thought-out statements, as though if someone asks for nation claiming, then they MUST BE TOWN.

I've already answered this to YOU directly. Pay attention.

On November 21 2010 15:41 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2010 14:52 ~OpZ~ wrote:
im far too open to be mafia. so ill take that as accepting to chezinus statement.


That is a ridiculous argument. So if we were to apply that principle to the game at hand, all players who have revealed their Provinces and Night Actions must be Town.

Anyone else care to claim your Province and tell us what you've done for your Night Actions?

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 16 2010 05:39 Hesmyrr wrote:
Actually I attacked 25 since it's neutral province. I am province #27 btw (they knew this). Still interesting decision that they attacked me, because I already repeatedly contacted LSB over whether he was going to follow non-aggressive pact or not. If any of the other nations had decided to attack #25 also, I would have been eliminated. Definitely interested in knowing whether it was a group decision.


+ Show Spoiler +
Oh, thanks Hesmyrr! ~OpZ~ is ready to welcome you into the Town with open arms!

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 21 2010 08:33 Caller wrote:
Hesmyrr the Shinmafigumi Recruiter is dead.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 28 2010 17:59 GMT
#1416
i am willing to make the wagons for tomorrow myself vs kingjames. i sincerely think he is mafia.

if you have that many votes and the backing of the reds, KJ/pandain/et al, then you will have no problems getting me killed. but beware, as i will flip blue, and you will all be next to go =)

in that way, i really am not so discouraged if i do get lynched. of course im going to fight it until i die, but even if i do die, 1 town sacrificed for 1-2 or more mafia is a sacrifice play i will take every single game ever.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 28 2010 18:01 GMT
#1417
On November 29 2010 02:53 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 02:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:
But I believe Annul to be innocent. HE WANTED THE TOWN TO CLAIM LAND IN ORDER TO CONTROL what mafia are capable of. I want the same thing. Mafia will be screwed from attacking if everyone claims.


You keep saying these really poorly thought-out statements, as though if someone asks for nation claiming, then they MUST BE TOWN.

I've already answered this to YOU directly. Pay attention.

Show nested quote +
On November 21 2010 15:41 kingjames01 wrote:
On November 21 2010 14:52 ~OpZ~ wrote:
im far too open to be mafia. so ill take that as accepting to chezinus statement.


That is a ridiculous argument. So if we were to apply that principle to the game at hand, all players who have revealed their Provinces and Night Actions must be Town.

Anyone else care to claim your Province and tell us what you've done for your Night Actions?

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 16 2010 05:39 Hesmyrr wrote:
Actually I attacked 25 since it's neutral province. I am province #27 btw (they knew this). Still interesting decision that they attacked me, because I already repeatedly contacted LSB over whether he was going to follow non-aggressive pact or not. If any of the other nations had decided to attack #25 also, I would have been eliminated. Definitely interested in knowing whether it was a group decision.


+ Show Spoiler +
Oh, thanks Hesmyrr! ~OpZ~ is ready to welcome you into the Town with open arms!

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 21 2010 08:33 Caller wrote:
Hesmyrr the Shinmafigumi Recruiter is dead.



And did you miss the post for why I attacked Annul, instead of attacking a neutral province?

I figured mafia would go after neutrals. *SHOCKER*

No you little moron. We can control night actions, and actually SEE results, IF we know who everyone is. If not, Kingdom of Whoring can just keep popping people left and right and stay hidden. That sounds awesome.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 28 2010 18:03 GMT
#1418
On November 29 2010 03:01 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 02:53 kingjames01 wrote:
On November 29 2010 02:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:
But I believe Annul to be innocent. HE WANTED THE TOWN TO CLAIM LAND IN ORDER TO CONTROL what mafia are capable of. I want the same thing. Mafia will be screwed from attacking if everyone claims.


You keep saying these really poorly thought-out statements, as though if someone asks for nation claiming, then they MUST BE TOWN.

I've already answered this to YOU directly. Pay attention.

On November 21 2010 15:41 kingjames01 wrote:
On November 21 2010 14:52 ~OpZ~ wrote:
im far too open to be mafia. so ill take that as accepting to chezinus statement.


That is a ridiculous argument. So if we were to apply that principle to the game at hand, all players who have revealed their Provinces and Night Actions must be Town.

Anyone else care to claim your Province and tell us what you've done for your Night Actions?

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 16 2010 05:39 Hesmyrr wrote:
Actually I attacked 25 since it's neutral province. I am province #27 btw (they knew this). Still interesting decision that they attacked me, because I already repeatedly contacted LSB over whether he was going to follow non-aggressive pact or not. If any of the other nations had decided to attack #25 also, I would have been eliminated. Definitely interested in knowing whether it was a group decision.


+ Show Spoiler +
Oh, thanks Hesmyrr! ~OpZ~ is ready to welcome you into the Town with open arms!

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 21 2010 08:33 Caller wrote:
Hesmyrr the Shinmafigumi Recruiter is dead.



And did you miss the post for why I attacked Annul, instead of attacking a neutral province?

I figured mafia would go after neutrals. *SHOCKER*

No you little moron. We can control night actions, and actually SEE results, IF we know who everyone is. If not, Kingdom of Whoring can just keep popping people left and right and stay hidden. That sounds awesome.


Unnecessary name calling...
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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 28 2010 18:04 GMT
#1419
nothing worse than what KJ spent 20 pages doing to me
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 28 2010 18:04 GMT
#1420
btw im obviously holding shit back because i need to see the day post before i announce anything else =[
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