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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2010 20:59 GMT
#1341
mafia wants me to use it so they have the chance to nightkill me by taking provinces.

the ability to avoid night phase death is pretty huge
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2010 21:01 GMT
#1342
btw, 16 votes needed to kill ace:


loanshark 2
annul 1

13 more to go


chezinu pandain lexpar 666 opz brownbear seraph nemesis lsb ghrur

10 votes on ace, 13 votes minimum needed. so assuming all these voters have land... there are 3 territories unaccounted for

if there are people who claimed specific numbers in this list, we may be able to deduce who among these have more than 1 and can maybe put names to numbers
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 27 2010 21:01 GMT
#1343
On November 28 2010 05:59 annul wrote:
mafia wants me to use it so they have the chance to nightkill me by taking provinces.

the ability to avoid night phase death is pretty huge


That's a pretty stupid reason. Isn't it the same if you DONT have the province. Speaking of, don't you take the territory during the night. So how could they attack it.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 27 2010 21:03 GMT
#1344
On November 27 2010 13:17 annul wrote:
hey i must be retarded but how was chez confirmed innocent? and opz too?

NVM about Chez.

But OpZ is confirmed because he took out hesmyrr.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2010 21:06 GMT
#1345
that doesnt make a confirmation, especially in a game where multiple accusations of bussing were being thrown
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
November 27 2010 21:07 GMT
#1346
I think I just might nameclaim and show everyone the proof that I'm innocent. The most active players already know who I am and if the mafia haven't figured it out by now then thats just sad. The town should be able to win against a team of mafia players who couldn't figure out my territory.

Do you think I should nameclaim LSB?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
November 27 2010 21:08 GMT
#1347
On November 28 2010 06:03 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 13:17 annul wrote:
hey i must be retarded but how was chez confirmed innocent? and opz too?

NVM about Chez.

But OpZ is confirmed because he took out hesmyrr.

OpZ is also confirmed by the fact he was silenced.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 27 2010 21:09 GMT
#1348
On November 28 2010 06:08 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 06:03 LSB wrote:
On November 27 2010 13:17 annul wrote:
hey i must be retarded but how was chez confirmed innocent? and opz too?

NVM about Chez.

But OpZ is confirmed because he took out hesmyrr.

OpZ is also confirmed by the fact he was silenced.


I confirmed with caller that mafia can be silence.

By all means, if you can prove your innocence it would be good.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 27 2010 21:11 GMT
#1349
On November 28 2010 05:54 Pandain wrote:
Town wants you to use it so we know your innocent...
if anything mafia WOULDN't because then they could keep bandwagoning you.


stop it. Town doesn't want anything. YOU want him to do that. I'm tired of you speaking as if you represent the best interests of the town. Also how does chopping down the big territories = town favored? Unless you can 100% claim you know every single one of those territories are Scum then why would you even do that?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
November 27 2010 21:11 GMT
#1350
On November 28 2010 06:09 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 06:08 Chezinu wrote:
On November 28 2010 06:03 LSB wrote:
On November 27 2010 13:17 annul wrote:
hey i must be retarded but how was chez confirmed innocent? and opz too?

NVM about Chez.

But OpZ is confirmed because he took out hesmyrr.

OpZ is also confirmed by the fact he was silenced.


I confirmed with caller that mafia can be silence.

By all means, if you can prove your innocence it would be good.

Ok, I'm claiming that I am province 5 for all those who didn't pick up on the numerous clues. As you can see I was silenced. Then mafia took province 5 from me. So now I only have two territories. The thing is mafia can't take over land that is already theirs. So by default, I am innocent.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2010 21:12 GMT
#1351
On November 28 2010 06:01 Pandain wrote:
That's a pretty stupid reason. Isn't it the same if you DONT have the province. Speaking of, don't you take the territory during the night. So how could they attack it.


... no

i have 19 right now. if i popped the power i would be reclaiming 20 through use of guerilla. i'd have two land then.

guerilla appears to override everything else, so if i pop guerilla on a land i lost, i get it back no matter who else attacks that land that night etc.


i guess in order to make this clearer, i will ask caller in this thread what i asked in PM so that he can respond to the rules question and people will see what i am talking about:


CALLER: you say "by the way anybody who loses their province after this day phase will be officially dead." does this mean if a guerilla warrior has one territory and loses it, will that guerilla warrior be unable to use the guerilla power due to being dead?

IF your response to this first question is "that guerilla warrior will be fine," then assume a guerilla warrior lost his original territory but possesses a new one. assume the guerilla warrior does not use the guerilla power to reclaim his original territory the night after it was lost.. assume as well that guerilla warrior somehow loses his new territory. when day post comes, that guerilla warrior will have no territory. does he flip? or does he have the chance to guerilla up the next night?


the above is language taken directly from the rules question PM i sent caller, with "that guerilla warrior" replacing first person pronouns referring to me.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
November 27 2010 21:13 GMT
#1352
Pandain already knew I was the rebirthing of shimafigumi. He has no excuse unless he pulls the wasn't paying attention/lazy card.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 27 2010 21:13 GMT
#1353
On November 28 2010 06:11 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 05:54 Pandain wrote:
Town wants you to use it so we know your innocent...
if anything mafia WOULDN't because then they could keep bandwagoning you.


stop it. Town doesn't want anything. YOU want him to do that. I'm tired of you speaking as if you represent the best interests of the town. Also how does chopping down the big territories = town favored? Unless you can 100% claim you know every single one of those territories are Scum then why would you even do that?


You don't want to know annul's innocence? Despite the fact it would actually be BETTER for him to take his country back regardless. Furthormore, it's better to have everyone have an equal amount of territories rather than a good chance of mafia have the big countries(since they would be more coordinated, obviously they would have the better layout.

You yourself have alot to explain, how you survived.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 27 2010 21:16 GMT
#1354
On November 28 2010 06:12 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 06:01 Pandain wrote:
That's a pretty stupid reason. Isn't it the same if you DONT have the province. Speaking of, don't you take the territory during the night. So how could they attack it.


... no

i have 19 right now. if i popped the power i would be reclaiming 20 through use of guerilla. i'd have two land then.

guerilla appears to override everything else, so if i pop guerilla on a land i lost, i get it back no matter who else attacks that land that night etc.


i guess in order to make this clearer, i will ask caller in this thread what i asked in PM so that he can respond to the rules question and people will see what i am talking about:


CALLER: you say "by the way anybody who loses their province after this day phase will be officially dead." does this mean if a guerilla warrior has one territory and loses it, will that guerilla warrior be unable to use the guerilla power due to being dead?

IF your response to this first question is "that guerilla warrior will be fine," then assume a guerilla warrior lost his original territory but possesses a new one. assume the guerilla warrior does not use the guerilla power to reclaim his original territory the night after it was lost.. assume as well that guerilla warrior somehow loses his new territory. when day post comes, that guerilla warrior will have no territory. does he flip? or does he have the chance to guerilla up the next night?


the above is language taken directly from the rules question PM i sent caller, with "that guerilla warrior" replacing first person pronouns referring to me.


so why would you NOT use it. At the very least, you'd still be back where you were: with one territory. Since you yourself are town's best suspect along with Ace, you're probably going to be lynched tommorow. Prove your innocence, like everyone wants you to. Unless I hear someone else say to NOT to, do it.

@Chez I was actually thinking you were mafia. But that's a good point. Hmm... don't attack chez then.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 27 2010 21:18 GMT
#1355
I don't believe annul using his power is going to matter in your eyes because you don't seem to listen to anything anyone not named LSB or kingjames says. Him trying to prove his innocence is irrelevant in that regard because you'll just rant and rave again tomorrow. "The Town" hasn't asked annul to do anything - you have. Big difference there.

So let's assume everyone pops the big territories and it magically all ends up equal - you think people will stop attacking the next night? Come on. It sounds like you're landlocked or can't attack out of your position which makes you seem jealous of those bigger territories. If those big territories are town aligned then why would you want to pop them?

I've already explained how I survived. Instead of playing PM games read the thread.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
November 27 2010 21:20 GMT
#1356
On November 28 2010 06:18 Ace wrote:
I don't believe annul using his power is going to matter in your eyes because you don't seem to listen to anything anyone not named LSB or kingjames says. Him trying to prove his innocence is irrelevant in that regard because you'll just rant and rave again tomorrow. "The Town" hasn't asked annul to do anything - you have. Big difference there.

So let's assume everyone pops the big territories and it magically all ends up equal - you think people will stop attacking the next night? Come on. It sounds like you're landlocked or can't attack out of your position which makes you seem jealous of those bigger territories. If those big territories are town aligned then why would you want to pop them?

I've already explained how I survived. Instead of playing PM games read the thread.

lol!!!!!!

I know inside information and this makes this funny.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 27 2010 21:22 GMT
#1357
Jesus this is sad. Just fucking lynch Pandain tomorrow.


mafia wants me to use it so they have the chance to nightkill me by taking provinces.


Unless I'm reading this wrong then annul, at the cost of trying to confirming himself could end up dead. So he is hesitating to use his ability.

And yet you are harping on and on about him using it. After 4 days of game play in a 24 person game you are STILL looking at the same 2 players. Why are you ignoring everyone else so much Pandain? I don't think you're actually scumhunting, seems like you're just bullshitting to get active players that don't agree with you lynched.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 27 2010 21:22 GMT
#1358
On November 28 2010 06:18 Ace wrote:
I don't believe annul using his power is going to matter in your eyes because you don't seem to listen to anything anyone not named LSB or kingjames says. Him trying to prove his innocence is irrelevant in that regard because you'll just rant and rave again tomorrow. "The Town" hasn't asked annul to do anything - you have. Big difference there.

So let's assume everyone pops the big territories and it magically all ends up equal - you think people will stop attacking the next night? Come on. It sounds like you're landlocked or can't attack out of your position which makes you seem jealous of those bigger territories. If those big territories are town aligned then why would you want to pop them?

I've already explained how I survived. Instead of playing PM games read the thread.


oic
Hmm....
I'm so confused. But still, annul should take back his territory.

Without knowing any more roles its hard to tell if your lying or not. :/
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 27 2010 21:24 GMT
#1359
On November 28 2010 06:22 Ace wrote:
Jesus this is sad. Just fucking lynch Pandain tomorrow.

Show nested quote +

mafia wants me to use it so they have the chance to nightkill me by taking provinces.


Unless I'm reading this wrong then annul, at the cost of trying to confirming himself could end up dead. So he is hesitating to use his ability.

And yet you are harping on and on about him using it. After 4 days of game play in a 24 person game you are STILL looking at the same 2 players. Why are you ignoring everyone else so much Pandain? I don't think you're actually scumhunting, seems like you're just bullshitting to get active players that don't agree with you lynched.


Annul couldn't die. He already said that taking over provinces overrides everything else. Way to try to bandwagon me when clearly the town supported me in that it was either you or annul, we just thought ace was a better choice.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 27 2010 21:24 GMT
#1360
On November 28 2010 06:20 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 06:18 Ace wrote:
I don't believe annul using his power is going to matter in your eyes because you don't seem to listen to anything anyone not named LSB or kingjames says. Him trying to prove his innocence is irrelevant in that regard because you'll just rant and rave again tomorrow. "The Town" hasn't asked annul to do anything - you have. Big difference there.

So let's assume everyone pops the big territories and it magically all ends up equal - you think people will stop attacking the next night? Come on. It sounds like you're landlocked or can't attack out of your position which makes you seem jealous of those bigger territories. If those big territories are town aligned then why would you want to pop them?

I've already explained how I survived. Instead of playing PM games read the thread.

lol!!!!!!

I know inside information and this makes this funny.


So do I

Hope nothing bad happens to you tonight Chez, I've got BIG plans for the both of us.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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