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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 22 2010 03:35 GMT
#1061
AWWWWW!!!

I've already been loitering for over 4 hours waiting for the Day post!!
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 22 2010 03:40 GMT
#1062
my conclusion that i am town comes from the logic behind delaying his kill in the first place, which is STILL sound, even as he flipped red.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 22 2010 03:46 GMT
#1063
On November 22 2010 12:33 Caller wrote:
you guys still have 2 hours zzz


In the posts, could you tell us exactly when day/night will end please? ^_^
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 22 2010 03:49 GMT
#1064
On November 22 2010 12:40 annul wrote:
my conclusion that i am town comes from the logic behind delaying his kill in the first place, which is STILL sound, even as he flipped red.


You're not understanding what I'm saying.

You advocated delaying the lynch since he still had a chance of reviving his Province.

If that were to have happened, then you would have presented Hesmyrr as being a Guerrilla Warrior and thus a confirmed pro-town.

However, here's where the, ahem, excuse my choice of language, "logic" fails.

The premise that the resurrection of Hesmyrr indicates that he is a Guerrilla Warrior relies on the assumption that Mafia have no way to make it appear as though Hesmyrr was the Guerrilla Warrior.

A faulty premise logically implies a faulty conclusion.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 22 2010 03:50 GMT
#1065
On November 22 2010 12:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 12:33 Caller wrote:
you guys still have 2 hours zzz


In the posts, could you tell us exactly when day/night will end please? ^_^


He did.

On November 21 2010 08:33 Caller wrote:
24 Hours for Night Actions.


Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 22 2010 03:59 GMT
#1066
HE HAD NO CHANCE TO REVIVE HIS PROVINCE. none. period.

he was a rolestealer and had stolen no role. his province was lost. he had no chance.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 22 2010 04:00 GMT
#1067
and lol, under your logic, any use of any town ability at all means nothing to the towniness of a player because LOL MAFIA CAN FAKE IT LOL
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 22 2010 04:01 GMT
#1068
so, opz, who used gunpowder? OH FUCK hes mafia because mafia can fake the gunpowder role OMG.

or the other guy who used guerilla power? OMFG MAFIA, mafia can steal that role for him omfg
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 22 2010 04:03 GMT
#1069
On November 22 2010 12:50 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 12:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 22 2010 12:33 Caller wrote:
you guys still have 2 hours zzz


In the posts, could you tell us exactly when day/night will end please? ^_^


He did.

Show nested quote +
On November 21 2010 08:33 Caller wrote:
24 Hours for Night Actions.




24 hours after 8:33 is 8:33, not 2:33
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 22 2010 04:04 GMT
#1070
On November 22 2010 12:59 annul wrote:
HE HAD NO CHANCE TO REVIVE HIS PROVINCE. none. period.

he was a rolestealer and had stolen no role. his province was lost. he had no chance.


Before he flipped, would you even have guessed that his ability existed? What other abilities do you think that the mafia possess? Have you given any thought to it?

Just because he could not revive himself does not imply that the mafia could not revive him. That's just poor reasoning.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 22 2010 04:06 GMT
#1071
On November 22 2010 13:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 12:50 kingjames01 wrote:
On November 22 2010 12:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 22 2010 12:33 Caller wrote:
you guys still have 2 hours zzz


In the posts, could you tell us exactly when day/night will end please? ^_^


He did.

On November 21 2010 08:33 Caller wrote:
24 Hours for Night Actions.




24 hours after 8:33 is 8:33, not 2:33


I know. That's why I said I've been loitering around for 4 hours. This is really frustrating.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 22 2010 04:15 GMT
#1072
the problem with that is that there is a proven TOWN role, called the guerilla warrior, who can resurrect, and is down. there is no known mafia ability like that. you trying to turn my argument on "hey mafia MIGHT be able to do it too, therefore kill him" is even worse logic than anything else in this thread so far
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 22 2010 04:18 GMT
#1073
waiting on callers post.. if he post's it soon i can update map tonight otherwise it probably be done tomorrow.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 22 2010 04:24 GMT
#1074
On November 22 2010 13:01 annul wrote:
so, opz, who used gunpowder? OH FUCK hes mafia because mafia can fake the gunpowder role OMG.

or the other guy who used guerilla power? OMFG MAFIA, mafia can steal that role for him omfg


You know that this is reductio ad absurdum, right? Just having to read this is tiresome... Maybe before you post anymore, you should stop and PM me with the text. I could read it over and then give you some constructive criticism.

Honestly, I know you feel pressure because you chose to defend a mafia member. That's fine. You know what you should do next? Stop defending your, ahem, "logic". If your reasoning was sound in the first place you wouldn't have supported him.

If you want to get back in with the town, then do some proper scum-hunting. The goal of the Town is to root out mafia. All you did during the last day was try to derail a hunt.

IF you really thought he was innocent, then you should have found someone else. All you did was constantly reiterate, "Oh, don't kill him today." What was your alternative? What will happen the next time a suspect is proposed? Is it your philosophy that no one should ever get lynched? Every single lynched should be postponed one day?

Your ability to reason is so poor that even if you were town, I'd lynch you just so that no one has to listen to your inane chatter. You are drowning out what could be meaningful posts with your logical fallacies. Having to wade through your sludge water is very tedious. Stop posting unless you have something important to say.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 22 2010 04:26 GMT
#1075
how is it reductio ad absurdum? it's the extension of your thesis.

do you think you are clever, bolding red words and your constant insults, name calling, etc of me in almost every single post? i have challenged the ARGUMENT; you have flung shit at me. i am getting tired of this. if you want to attack my argument, sure. STOP insulting me personally.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 22 2010 04:30 GMT
#1076
it is also illogical to imply that in order for a player to argue to stop a bad lynch, they MUST have an alternative in front of them. it is like if someone is like "hey what are we gonna do friday night? i know... RAPE PRESCHOOLERS!" and i tell them that is a horrible idea, and they say "DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER IDEA?"

if i have no other idea on what to do friday night, that does not mean raping preschoolers is a valid plan.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 22 2010 04:31 GMT
#1077
Ok, guys, stop. We don't want another Bill Murray/Pandain, LSB/Ace on our hands.

It's night time, just rest until Day pops, we'll have 48 hours to yell at each other =)
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
November 22 2010 04:33 GMT
#1078
Awwwwwwww man, you guys have spammed so much that I can't hit the All button anymore. I'm a sad panda(in).
darkness overpowering
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 22 2010 04:33 GMT
#1079
I just replied to you with something you should read. I'll answer this too since I didn't refresh before I posted.

On November 22 2010 13:15 annul wrote:
there is no known mafia ability like that.


Before Hesmyrr flipped, there were NO KNOWN MAFIA ABILITIES.

The fact that I even have to say that to you is mind-boggling. Stop posting.

If you're going to get lynched for supporting the wrong person due to an inadequate analysis, then fine. If not, then fine.

Learn from your mistakes and don't repeat them next game.

Until you come up with something that will help the town, I'm not going to respond to you anymore.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 22 2010 04:35 GMT
#1080
precisely. you cannot make moves under the assumption that there might be a mafia role that fits this thing when there is a known town role that fits it exactly. you never respond to that point. and evidently you never will. this is probably good, because i doubt any "response" would be a true response, but instead, invectives cloaked in the language of argumentation
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