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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
November 21 2010 05:37 GMT
#1021
I think we should start making a non-mafia list of countries.

I'll start with:
SCUMSLIPville
Province 30
Sultaek Plaza

I believe these countries are innocent since they were by Hes. Feel free to add to the list.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 21 2010 05:44 GMT
#1022
On November 21 2010 14:37 Chezinu wrote:
I think we should start making a non-mafia list of countries.

I'll start with:
SCUMSLIPville
Province 30
Sultaek Plaza

I believe these countries are innocent since they were by Hes. Feel free to add to the list.


By innocent, you mean Town? Since Hesmyrr never successfully captured a non-Neutral Province by force, the only thing we can conclude is that apparently he did not steal anyone's powers and/or convert anyone.

It's still possible that the Provinces that you listed were Red to begin with.


Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 21 2010 05:52 GMT
#1023
On November 21 2010 14:44 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2010 14:37 Chezinu wrote:
I think we should start making a non-mafia list of countries.

I'll start with:
SCUMSLIPville
Province 30
Sultaek Plaza

I believe these countries are innocent since they were by Hes. Feel free to add to the list.


By innocent, you mean Town? Since Hesmyrr never successfully captured a non-Neutral Province by force, the only thing we can conclude is that apparently he did not steal anyone's powers and/or convert anyone.

It's still possible that the Provinces that you listed were Red to begin with.



im far too open to be mafia. so ill take that as accepting to chezinus statement.

except i want nation claims. because if you dont claim and your near me....you are fair game.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 06:02:09
November 21 2010 06:01 GMT
#1024
North Island_Kinchins Zanyisms


To everyone in the NIKZ realm:

When pming please state your opinion on the following issues:
  • nation claiming (within NIKZ and with outsiders)
  • role claiming (within NIKZ and with outsiders)
  • Expansion
  • Concerns about pirates
lol, clueless in The Prism!
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 21 2010 06:41 GMT
#1025
On November 21 2010 14:52 ~OpZ~ wrote:
im far too open to be mafia. so ill take that as accepting to chezinus statement.


That is a ridiculous argument. So if we were to apply that principle to the game at hand, all players who have revealed their Provinces and Night Actions must be Town.

Anyone else care to claim your Province and tell us what you've done for your Night Actions?

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 16 2010 05:39 Hesmyrr wrote:
Actually I attacked 25 since it's neutral province. I am province #27 btw (they knew this). Still interesting decision that they attacked me, because I already repeatedly contacted LSB over whether he was going to follow non-aggressive pact or not. If any of the other nations had decided to attack #25 also, I would have been eliminated. Definitely interested in knowing whether it was a group decision.


+ Show Spoiler +
Oh, thanks Hesmyrr! ~OpZ~ is ready to welcome you into the Town with open arms!

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 21 2010 08:33 Caller wrote:
Hesmyrr the Shinmafigumi Recruiter is dead.


Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
November 21 2010 07:33 GMT
#1026
On November 21 2010 13:41 Chezinu wrote:
North Island Killer Kinchins Zabutons Zabernisms Zanyisms

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Hello, this is Chezinu speaking. Bringing to you one awesome plan.

This is addressed to the countries of 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12,15.

This is not a game for the serious.

Do you wish to stay alive this game? Big bad clowns are our there. The way to win is to act, and destroy the mafia in their tents before they grow strong. If we're going to be sitting ducks, the mafia / communists will snap us up easily.

We are the Jokers. The mafia will laugh at us. The communists will run. We are the NIKZ

Message me if you are interested.

Current Policies-
  • Do not nation claim. If more people than countries PM me, I may ask for a nation claim. Nation Claming allows mafia to influence the town to take down our alliance. You may run messages to the town through me if you wish.
  • Temporary Non-Aggression pact between island countries who are in NIKZ.

Wow, first SIFZ and now a new alliance, I feel so left alone.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
November 21 2010 08:11 GMT
#1027
Time to start reading through this thread!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 21 2010 08:13 GMT
#1028
On November 21 2010 17:11 flamewheel wrote:
Time to start reading through this thread!


It's a good one! =) I hope you enjoy it.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
November 21 2010 10:53 GMT
#1029
On November 21 2010 14:37 Chezinu wrote:
I think we should start making a non-mafia list of countries.

I'll start with:
SCUMSLIPville
Province 30
Sultaek Plaza

I believe these countries are innocent since they were by Hes. Feel free to add to the list.


Yeah everyone's going to feel free to add their own country to the list.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
November 21 2010 11:30 GMT
#1030
Finished reading the thread!

Actually started reading it like 90 minutes ago so the post before this was a lie.
But still I'm now only marginally confused!

Also by the way it doesn't matter who wins my off-shore armada is going to come in and pwn the victors silly.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 21 2010 11:54 GMT
#1031
ohhhhhh shit
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
November 21 2010 13:53 GMT
#1032
On November 21 2010 15:01 Chezinu wrote:
North Island_Kinchins Zanyisms


To everyone in the NIKZ realm:

When pming please state your opinion on the following issues:
  • nation claiming (within NIKZ and with outsiders)
  • role claiming (within NIKZ and with outsiders)
  • Expansion
  • Concerns about pirates


Just saying, if I were brown in that alliance, with 3 provinces, I'd want people to not attack me, and try to ally myself with everyone around.

I mean come on, you basically made a map out of brown and everyone who is surrounding brown, and decided that should be an alliance? Please.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
November 21 2010 17:29 GMT
#1033
Sorry guys, RL called during weekend. Wow, the thread is really moving very fast. Gotta need sometimes to re-read it fully.

I think it's a very good decision to lynch Hessmyrr, though. As Kingjames (I think it's him) stated that, because he has no power left, voting him would not harm us at all. And indeed we are very lucky that he turned out to be mafia.

Need to re-read his posts again...
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 21 2010 18:06 GMT
#1034
Alright, in case I die:
Ace and annul are most likely both mafia. Ace for his slip up, and uncharacteristic defense of hesmyrr, and annul for his "cmon, just give one more day for Hesmyrr", which along with just being a stupid idea anyway Hesmyrr's role must be taken into account because of this. Both of them are almost certainly mafia.
Now, which of these to lynch in what order is the question we currently face. I have decided that town should lynch Ace for a number of reasons. First, he is the more certain to be mafia(slip up.) That and the fact he constantly defended Hesmyrr without giving any real thoughts on who else might be scum sets off alarms. Then he constantly said "WAR WAR WAR" during each day yet defended each of the two nights, so he claims. Furthormore, I'd rather have Ace dead than annul, since Ace is the more expierenced out of the two.
Annul should be lynched the next day of course. But actually, here's where I have an idea.

Ace, you are to claim your territory.
Now, what will this do for us?

First of all, it will help us see if he was truly telling the truth about him defending both days. Now, he will be either forced to give his real number(and therefore we can compare it with what he said he did), or he will be forced to give a number mafia has(so then if Ace turns mafia, we can then attack that country during the night.) Only ace is to claim.

Now, some general other notes. What should we do after this? Here's some people I have my eye on:

Bumatlarge: Lost his country, obviously not guerrila since it didn't come back. But why isn't he contributing? Seems very fishy to me, maybe he has RL stuff but keep an eye on him.
People who argued to attack: Due to hesmyrr role's, it works best if people are attacking(therefore not defending, and hesmyrr can take things over. Of course, this must be viewed in correct context since Hesmyrr attacked a neutral country first. So here's my thoughts, why wouldn't he have attacked a non neutral country? Keep in mind, and this is just speculation, but it is possible he did that because
a) He knew he wouldn't be able to attack the SFIZ or w/e
b)Mafia were the other countries, didn't want to attack them
c) he knew those countries, they were going to defend.

LSB, you must take note of who argued in support of Hesmyrr for your alliance.That is very important. If you manage to root out all the mafia in your alliance, a pro town block of countries will be very useful.


Remember that the people who tried to get Hesmyrr lynched may not be confirmed either, but this is a small chance. My current thinking is that, due to annul's instience of "just wait one more day", that mafia had another role where they could do something with hesmyrr, so he could work his role again. Of course, it is just as likely if not more that Annul was just trying to save a mafia from a lynch for a day(always good.) But these are things to consider. If they didn't have such a role, it is entirely reasonable that lynching Hesmyrr might actually be good for mafia as it would give them town cred.

But don't let others lynch these people first. It's more suscipcious of Ace and annul defending hesmyrr than just a speculative theory about gaining town cred.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 21 2010 18:25 GMT
#1035
Caller, is a missionary visits someone, do they take that country over(and therefore show as one country on the map?)
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
November 21 2010 18:44 GMT
#1036
Why would you post an "in case I die" note during the NIGHT? You can't die during the night. You'd still be able to post even if all of your territories are taken, like in the case of Hesmyrr. hmmmmmm.
darkness overpowering
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 21 2010 19:48 GMT
#1037
On November 22 2010 03:25 Pandain wrote:
Caller, is a missionary visits someone, do they take that country over(and therefore show as one country on the map?)


No, I believe that a missionary just converts a neighboring non-attacking country to his team.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 21 2010 19:49 GMT
#1038
On November 21 2010 22:53 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2010 15:01 Chezinu wrote:
North Island_Kinchins Zanyisms


To everyone in the NIKZ realm:

When pming please state your opinion on the following issues:
  • nation claiming (within NIKZ and with outsiders)
  • role claiming (within NIKZ and with outsiders)
  • Expansion
  • Concerns about pirates


Just saying, if I were brown in that alliance, with 3 provinces, I'd want people to not attack me, and try to ally myself with everyone around.

I mean come on, you basically made a map out of brown and everyone who is surrounding brown, and decided that should be an alliance? Please.


Well, if you think about it, that map cuts off at the Whoring Kingdom, which is almost certainly mafia. So Chez cut it off in a pretty wise location to minimize mafia influence, regardless of what province he is.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 21 2010 20:01 GMT
#1039
On November 22 2010 03:25 Pandain wrote:
Caller, is a missionary visits someone, do they take that country over(and therefore show as one country on the map?)

no
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 21 2010 23:24 GMT
#1040
lol. i have the perfect reasoning why im confirmed. I attacked hesmyrrs province and took his only land WITH MY GUNPOWDER. I would like role claims and nation claims via pm thank you. me being greedy turned out benefiting us ^_^
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
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