EPTOh man it's that time again?
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??? In that case why not ask for medic protection, or at the very least propose a good plan that would warrant you getting Mayor votes. You're entire platform comes down to a pretty weak reason and on top of that several players already jumped at the chance to vote for you off of that. Now I doubt all of them are that ridiculously dumb to: 1.) be in your circle and trust that you are innocent so early in the game 2.) Not think 1 step ahead and realize that if they are indeed part of your circle then it may not be the smartest idea to immediately out themselves 3.) Lastly if there are other factions that can talk to each other, then Fishball's circle may not even be a town circle. So now these players need to explain how they are so trustworthy of Fishball so fast. There can't BE a circle if Fishball already knows that all the member's do not know each other's alignment. On October 29 2010 14:13 infinitestory wrote: Definitely agree. Fishball's promise that he will give a full roleclaim if and when he is elected makes me feel safer about this. If his roleclaim ends up being bull, we'll probably find out quickly. However, I think we need to make sure that "highly scrutinized" clause DrH talks about here is well kept. Mayor may be an elected position of power, but that is by no means synonymous with town, especially with regards to someone campaigning for the position. You wouldn't believe this but people lie about giving you information after you do something for them. See any game with a Scum Mayor. Secondly if Fishball lies about his role claim and we have no role list then how will we know? You can't. On October 29 2010 14:55 youngminii wrote: I buy fishball's story. I don't buy bum's. It's posts like this that I'm talking about. You buy Fishball's story with no explanation even though nothing about his claim can be proven. | ||
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Both of you have played Mafia before so why run on this platform? You SHOULD be able to run without revealing so much critical information on Day 1. If neither of you gets Mayor you're a good target for scum kill now. If there's so many people with the ability to communicate then why couldn't you just keep quiet, use your ability Night 1 and then start owning faces Day 2? As it is you've given up a lot of information in a desperate plea to get elected and, if you are as good at this game as you think you are you should know that's a big no no. My vote is going to bumatlarge if he's still running, or Pandain. No one knows anyone else's alignment right now except for Scum. That being said I would have voted for Fishball if he didn't try such an illogical gambit for Mayor. | ||
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Being Mayor doesn't help you confirm yourself as being pro-town. If someone that can protect you believes you are that important, you'll get your protection tonight and then do what you need to do to be confirmed. If confirming yourself is such a big deal you certainly did not have to draw so much attention to yourself like this. You could have quietly done what you needed to do Night 1 and then came out on Day 2 with what is needed. It's your lack of foresight that's also barring me from voting for you. The one thing working in your favor though is that you're so bad at being Scum if you were in the spotlight I wouldn't it'd be like stealing candy from a baby ^_^ | ||
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On October 30 2010 08:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I can understand why you'd vote bum but I can't imagine why Pandain would be your second choice, or why anyone would vote for pandain really The Pandain vote was just because I didn't want to vote for you or Fishball. I voted for bumatlarge though. If bum withdraws I'd vote for Pandain over you two. But hey we've got lots of time right? Maybe something will happen that makes me change my mind. | ||
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On October 30 2010 08:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: you'd vote for the scummiest candidate over someone who can use the mayoral role effectively to coordinate the use of our blues? that's dumb play. No. YOU think Pandain is scummy. I don't. Big difference. | ||
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On October 30 2010 08:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote: What makes you think I haven't planned out how to use my role throughout the game? You're telling me to stay quiet and then come out tomorrow with what needs to be said. I'm offering coordination to the town with guaranteed protection. If you don't think thats better than what pandain is offering (nothing) then I don't really know what to say. What lack of foresight? My plans are long-term plans on how I will use my role to benefit the town. The first step is confirming my identity, the second step is using my powers to coordinate the town in a way that is crucial to our survival and victory. I've put the finger of suspicion on more players than you. Coagulation, youngminii, you haven't really done much in the way of scumhunting either. Mind telling me who you think is scum, if anybody? While scumhunting is important to me, being mayor will without a doubt maximize the effectiveness of my role and give the town coordination it needs in this game. It's pretty simple. I think you're misunderstanding my lack of foresight comment. It was in reference to the statement I made about you outting yourself instead of just proving your ability on Night 1 and then revealing the information on Day 2. Also be aware that I have NOT voted for Pandain. Stop pidgeon-holing me into his camp please Besides, if Fishball claims to have a circle of players and that his ability will help him figure out their alignments then why should we vote for you? He only has to focus on a small subset of players to find Scum. | ||
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I think bumatlarge is good enough to know if he's being manipulated. However, how is it that you can't possibly be manipulated by Scum but can coordinate the town? Unless you have the ability to figure out roles in mass I'm not buying it. And I hope you aren't planning for a mass roleclaim because that would definitely be a red flag. | ||
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On October 30 2010 08:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote: ace would you mind telling me 1 or 2 people who you suspect to be scum mr.great scumhunter? I don't have any suspects yet. | ||
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On October 30 2010 08:58 NB wrote: so far we have 3 people who most likely to be mayor: Pandain, fishball, Dr.h Panda: i think he would be the most reasonable choice since his first election post looks really clean o.O or as Dr.H said: "transparent" Fishy: i dont know about this guy... he claimed that he has some sort of mason going on... and i dont trust any group of towny... there is always important information in there being shared and there always could be a spy.... really fishy Dr.H: lots of people voting for him since he has some great posts on what he would do once he become a mayor. Let me tell you: He has never been a towny b4 in the history of mafia => he is a Veteran mafia and a shitty towny (no offends). Those people who did bandwagon and vote for him could easily be a group of mafia just voting for their leader... Dr.H will be my Last choice what so ever. for now, i will keep my vote on my self and consider to change it on to the most reasonable person in the end! Hold on, I think I've gotta rethink that question Dr.H asked me earlier. | ||
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On October 30 2010 09:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: There are a few things you didn't respond to ace that I'd like you to revisit. specifically this I responded to the bolded already. I'm voting for bumatlarge because I don't see any negatives with him. With you and Fishball I do. I've also already explained about Pandain. | ||
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On October 30 2010 09:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Why does that make you nervous? I can prove to the entire town that I am town aligned. If I don't do that, simply lynch me. Why would you vote for a low key mayor that isn't offering anything with the role when I am handing the town a blue-confirmed mayor who can coordinate on a plate? Why wouldn't you want that? Because people don't have to believe your going to do what you say? I think you're better off trying to show us from another angle why you need to be Mayor. With you and Fishball both saying you have to be mayor because of your role it's actually killing your chances imo. | ||
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On October 30 2010 09:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: It just seemed out of place that you would bring up fishballs candidacy as a point against me when you're against him as well, rather than asking why people should vote for me over bumatlarge instead So what's my plan then, assume for a minute I'm scum. To lie about proving I'm town, get elected, use the 1 lynch, and then die for the lie? Sacrifice myself for a single kill? 1.) That wasn't being used as a point against you. I was talking about you, Fishball and Pandain as the remaining candidates who didn't have my vote. Nothing to do with bumatlarge. 2.) If you're Scum, get Mayor, lynch someone - how do you die? I don't know what roles are in the game and neither does anyone else. The name of the game is INSANE Mafia. Maybe you're scum with a role that can do something and look Pro-Town? I don't know and honestly, even if I did know the roles in the game that doesn't mean I'm going to take you at your word. There have been plenty of games where Scum says they promise to do something, like oh kill themselves and then WALLA! Something else happens, the Scum spin it to show that there is a better idea and the Scummy Martyr goes free. I'm not in the business on playing for promises. | ||
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On October 30 2010 14:56 orgolove wrote: And regarding your second point, in a game where we don't know the true mechanics of your role, your role could easily involve simply infecting people with your stick. I lol'd | ||
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On October 30 2010 14:59 orgolove wrote: -_- And no, that won't work. In a game where we don't know how many plaguebearers there are, if the mafia ever has their own plague doctors, then the numbers can remain the same while the mafia "heals" one of their previous disease hits. I must say thats a really good point. | ||
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if only because it gives the reds such a gigantic advantage. The only ways I can think of to beat this scenario are very WIFOM.
