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On October 13 2010 03:28 Bill Murray wrote:
your wording and grammar are better than most peoples' from here, therefore i disagree
But it's still not perfect as far as I know, I still feel my grammar suck a lot... But that's unrelated to game.
Well, I like what you post. Getting fried in the first game is not a bad experience though, since I could learn something from it. No need to feel bad if you believe you do the right thing for the town.
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And Masq turns out to be a vampire...
If you guys are so worried about me, role check me if you want. You can even plant a bogeyman to spy whether someone visit me or not to. However, I think that some people are now 100% sure of my role right now.
Remember that town wants to reduce the number of vampire and mafia gradually and have their number similar to each other. Moreover, Mafia now would want to use town vote to kill me more than dirty their own hands. Lynching me now would only help strengthen Mafia.
All in all, reserve your judgment until day 2. There's going to be a lot of killing this night.
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On October 13 2010 21:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:
EBWOP: didn't mean to say Veldril insane idiot, meant to say he posted like one.
Sowwy =X
No offense taken 
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Don't jump your conclusion yet. There are several reasons that I did not die on Night 2.
1. A ghost protected me.
2. I have been poisoned, therefore will be death the next night.
3. It is better to keep me alive because I have drawn too much attention upon myself.
4. Bum and Youngminii and LSB are better target to kill than me, because they fervently wanted me to get lynched on day 1.
5. It is better to get me lynched than wasting night action/kill on me, especially when many people suspecting me as a vampire.
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EDIT the above post.
To clarify point 3, only Bum and Youngminii fervently want me lynched. LSB is killed by a vampire because he's a veteran and vampire knows he is not in his team.
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On October 14 2010 18:28 KhrisKruel wrote:
edit by way of post:
I forgot 4...
Vedril, point 3 and 5 completely contradict each other.
4) all 3 of those people are dead
For point 1-2, it just a possibilities. No one knows am I poisoned or protected or not. If I'm poison then only Vampires know, if I'm protected only ghost who protected me knows.
Actually, point 5 is a consequence of point 3. I have drawn so much attention, leads to high possibility of being a vampire or mafia, leads to likely being voted for lynching, leads to using night kill for other targets.
For point 4, what I means is that those 3 people are better target for night 1. So instead of killing me, mafia kills Youngminii and Bum instead. LSB's could be killed by a vampire or a Mafia.
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Correcting the last paragraph, explaining point 4.
Actually, after a careful reading, only Bum is killed by a Mafia since Young is killed by LSB's bomb. So the obvious night kills are:
Bum -----> Killed by a Mafia for sure.
LSB -----> Killed by either a Mafia or a Vampire, however it is very likely he is died by a vampire because he voted for Masq.
NB ----> Killed by a Vampire for sure.
RisingDragon ------> Killed by either a Mafia or a Vampire. 50% chance. Also, he did not vote in day 1.
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On October 14 2010 18:56 KhrisKruel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 16:23 Veldril wrote:
And Masq turns out to be a vampire...
If you guys are so worried about me, role check me if you want. You can even plant a bogeyman to spy whether someone visit me or not to. However, I think that some people are now 100% sure of my role right now.
Remember that town wants to reduce the number of vampire and mafia gradually and have their number similar to each other. Moreover, Mafia now would want to use town vote to kill me more than dirty their own hands. Lynching me now would only help strengthen Mafia.
All in all, reserve your judgment until day 2. There's going to be a lot of killing this night. Can you explain this? If you were a townie, how would your death strengthen the mafia? To me this is basically a vampire claim
Basically, it is because by lynching me, Mafia has nothing to lose.
If I'm green, it just at worst a miss but they would not lose a member and maintain 2 more members than a vampire. They can even trace back and analyze to find more possible vampire's member by looking at voting and posting on day 1 relating to accusing me.
If I'm a vampire, then basically they reduce the KP of vampire down by 1, and has 3 more members than vampire. That means vampire would be less likely to kill Mafia on Night 2 because they can only kill 2 people, while mafia can kill 3 . In this case (lynching me and I turn out to be a vampire), assuming that they both kill each others perfectly, vampire would be reduce to 4 people but Mafia would be only reduce 8, gaining even more leading.
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On October 14 2010 19:11 KhrisKruel wrote:
Veldril is english your first language?
No, I'm Thai.... and I'm at work too so I have to type hastily without re-checking grammars and vocabulary.
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Whether I'm a vampire or not is not a problem right now. The issue is that by lynching me today, Mafias would gain advantages over Town and Vampire.
If I flip green, they use previous vote to trace back who is vampire. Even if they miss on night 2, there would still have suspects list that could be used later to fish out vampire. It could also put a townie who vote for me on day 1 in danger.
If I flip blue, well... I think I don't have to explain how this would affect town.
If I flip vampire, they gain a lot of advantage as I explained in the previous post.
Right now, town's best interest should be thinning down the number of mafias first. And when vampire and mafia number are approximately equal, then town can choose the course of action at that point, be it lynching me, other known/suspected vampires or known/suspected mafia.
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Now let me presented a possible Mafia player that we should vote for today: Yogy
The reasons that we should lynch this person are:
1. He voted Masq without posting anything before. If he's Mafia, then he would know that Masq is not on his team. Voting Masq, whom the clue implied to be a killer, would be the best vote to get rid of a vampire.
The date and time he voted Masq is
On October 11 2010 16:37 Yogy wrote:
Vote Masq
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6559376
2. Later, he came up with this post:
On October 13 2010 01:41 Yogy wrote:
I've been pretty inactive in posting I confess, new to this and trying to get the hang of it. No one has been telling me what to do or who to vote to lynch, I've come to that decision myself.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6572368
Why would someone tell that there's no one telling him what to do or vote if he acted independently? If he indeed acted independently, he should have a reason why he voted for Masq, may it be he is so sure about the clue or else. Moreover, he posted this after someone compile the number of posts each player made. For me, it is very suspicious.
3. He is always inactive. Except the post I quote above, he make no other posts at all. By voting him right now would force him to be more active and we could get more information out of him that would benefit town.
Therefore, with these three reasons above, I placed my vote on Yogy.
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On October 15 2010 02:42 zerroth wrote:
@jaminz
That is really bad because your posts are inaccurate
really inaccurate
i atleast have 10 posts in this thread
You have 9 posts, including what I quote in this thread
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On October 15 2010 03:15 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 18:44 Veldril wrote:On October 14 2010 18:28 KhrisKruel wrote:
edit by way of post:
I forgot 4...
Vedril, point 3 and 5 completely contradict each other.
4) all 3 of those people are dead For point 1-2, it just a possibilities. No one knows am I poisoned or protected or not. If I'm poison then only Vampires know, if I'm protected only ghost who protected me knows. You were definitely not protected as you didn't seem to know that people who were protected get pmed. Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 13:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If someone is hit and survived I will PM them with that information. If a ghost successfully saves someone I will also PM them.
It's just not public information. Also, why would the ghost protect you? Stop trying to defend yourself as you are just digging yourself a deeper grave. Just be happy that people are considering not killing you today and save you for some other day.
Oh, I really skipped that part = =. My bad, sorry. Please skip point 1 then.
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On October 15 2010 03:30 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2010 02:52 Veldril wrote:On October 15 2010 02:42 zerroth wrote:
@jaminz
That is really bad because your posts are inaccurate
really inaccurate
i atleast have 10 posts in this thread You have 9 posts, including what I quote in this thread And this matters how?
Well, it doesn't matter that much. Just want to point out that he seems to think he posted more than he did. Also, it's 1AM in Thailand (12AM at that time), so I'm quite sleepy and act before posting. Apologize if it's spam the thread.
However, I do appreciate jaminz for keeping the post count going because I tried to do once but the search function seems not to show me correct post count in each thread. So to make sure, he might need to go through each page to count a person's post count. Multiply by 50 and it's going to be really hard. So please don't criticize the post count too harsh.
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GG
Sorry for overall bad play guys. My first time in this kind of game, so when BM pressured me, I kinda panic and did things I should not.
Any feedback is welcomed. Thank in advance.
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