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zerroth
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada173 Posts
October 28 2010 23:56 GMT
#2761
yeah i wanted you guys to get kinda confused. Ugh i probably said too much. we killed nemesis who was a ghost -_- and the other ghost as well. I posted that the vamps kill nemesis so i was hoping the vamps read that and think twice about killing me.
With no power, comes no responsibility.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 00:10 GMT
#2762
it was not smart to roleclaim when you did

town could have won pretty easily if you didn't rc
RIP Aaliyah
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
October 29 2010 00:14 GMT
#2763
Nice work annul sad i never got to brute, but i handpicked NB as hit and vouched for annul as the count. GG
Together but separate, like oatmeal
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 29 2010 00:19 GMT
#2764
HAHAHAA, I investigated annul on the second round. SO FUNNY!!!!
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 29 2010 00:19 GMT
#2765
I still don't get why you killed me.

I'm guessing you figured out I was blue from witch blocking me, but why did you wait so long to kill me if that is so?

Here are my pm's with glasse and deconduo.

This one is with glasse
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the night after i roleclaimed i didnt die, you never know what they think, nobody knows you're a ghost. idk if they will target you over obvious people.

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Original Message From Nemesis:
Since I'm pretty sure there are no other ghost around and that I've been poisoined I'll leave all my information to you. Do with it what you want. If you don't want to do anything, you can pass this info on to either Node or CubedIn as I trust that they are townies.

This one I would prefer if you keep out of public(if you are not planning on using this info I suggest passing it on to Node): First thing I want to tell you is that I was planning on claiming blue to annul next night phase so I can talk to mad scientist and have him check the bathroom clue(day 2 rotten smell) on annul because he seems very fishy to me. He was one of the people who voted for veldril in the beginning along with other vampires and did not vote for metalface who turned out to be vampire. Since dt has checked him, he might be vampire lord. Maybe, he is just actually stupid and not really a red though.

Here is a list of people I protected and their results:
Night 1:orgolove - it seems he was attacked the night phase, and it is most likely vampire as he was killed by vampire. If you guys need to look for additional vampire suspects look for people who attacked orgolove in day1 for his spreadsheet.
Night 2andain - I was told that I scared off a man with a weapon that came into his house but unfortunately, pandain left and never returned or something like that.
Night 3:CubedIn - It seems that I was roleblocked in Night 3 by the witch though. Good thing that he didn't get attacked that night. There is a possibility that the witch gets told that he successfully blocked me and thus knows I'm a blue and so mafia might try and kill me. So If I don't actually get killed by poison but still die, I was most likely killed by mafia
Night 4: Node - If there is a kill point missing this night. It means that someone most likely attacked him.


Last thing is on next day suspects for lynching:
Mafia - if townies needs to kill a mafia, I would suggest zerroth. Although MetalFace did indeed appeare scum, the clue should've cleared zerroth. But if you look again at the clue related to him, that armored person supposedly killed a vampire, and since MetalFace turned out to be a vampire it is impossible for the clue to relate to him. So in fact the town got lucky with MetalFace turning out to be a vampire XD. So only person left with impenetrable armor is zerroth. Furthermore, he voted for glurio day 2 to save his mafia buddy artanis.


Vampire - if townies need to kill a vampire, I would suggest lynching heavonearth. Several clues point to him and with the other people related to those clues dead, he is most likely a vampire. Furthermore, he voted for veldril day1.

Well that's it, and hopefully I don't die


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good to know, ill look foward to that

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Original Message From Nemesis:
I have told annul, my suspected count about the zerroth clue and I am protecting zerroth for tonight, so if a KP is missing, vampires attacked zerroth and annul is indeed vampire lord.

And I finally had contact with MS and having ghrur checked for the freezing clues.


With deconduo
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Well we just need the one vamp tbh. Annul might know a lot of blues, but he cant start mass killing us without making it incredibly obvious. Gonna check the ghrur clue.

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Original Message From Nemesis:
Well I just wanted to suggest checking the freezing clue with ghrur.

Since the freezing killed NB, it is most likely vampire, and since 2 out of 3 of my suspects died, I think I'm pretty sure about him.

Another thing that I want to suggest is to check out annul, I think that he might be vampire lord. Notice how he hasn't voted for any known vampires at all. I'm not sure about this one that was why I also want it checked. Day 2 clue about rotten smell from bathroom.

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Original Message From deconduo:
Clue checks so far:
-Silver hammer/instrument clue does not point to Glasse.
-Torn limb from limb, laid out in neat rows of 8 does not point to lucktar
-Thin, gaunt scholar does not point to Nemesis
-The kitten clue does point to BrownBear.

As you can see, most of the checks have been kinda useless unfortunately.

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Original Message From Nemesis:
So you were the Mad Scientist :X

What was that about not getting any names before? XD

I wanted to confirm a few clues for myself. But just in case that clue has already been checked, I want to know what you have checked so far.

In return, I guess I'll also tell you who I protected in previous days, although I'm not sure how you can use that information for yourself.
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Original Message From deconduo:
Heard you wanted to talk to me from annul, whats up.


And I almost forgot that I also contacted annul to get more information out of him that I could use to incriminate him when day phase comes. I couldn't just incriminate him without solid evidence as he is trusted by his "town circle." But I died before I could do that
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From: annul [ 238 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: .
Date: 10/24/10 11:09
i will ask him if he wants me to reveal him to you.

but you should know that my MS was NOT DT checked, hence he is not a confirmed MS. i believe him, but it is not a guarantee.

i will still ask him for you.

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Original Message From Nemesis:
Can I have the name of the MS?

As you probably noticed, I am a bit obsessed with the clues and I would like to start working with MS as soon as possible

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Original Message From annul:
oh i misinterpreted what you meant by this message

you want to be checked tonight, yes? see i thought when you said roleclaim that you wanted to claim something, not ask to be blue checked. i get it, okay you will be checked tonight

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Original Message From Nemesis:
Since I survived the night, I think it's time to roleclaim.

You have a mad scientist with you right?

I'd suggest that you keep my roleclaiming a secret and maybe even my role too except from the dt.


Ahem JoL and Frankenstein is the easiest to claim for count/godfather as they don't get any additional info from night phase that other blues get
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From: annul [ 238 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: .
Date: 10/26/10 05:37
i never said i was having you checked.

i said i would let you know if we chose you. you arent the only one who came to us. and now with one of my DTs modkilled i want people to claim early.

you probably will NOT be who my second DT checks, by the way.

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Original Message From Nemesis:
I thought you were having me dt checked tonight.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
i claimed in the thread like 10 days ago

i am a JOL.

what are you? you have not told me your role yet either.


-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Nemesis:
btw I'm just curious what is your role?
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 29 2010 00:20 GMT
#2766
I agree, annul really played stellar this game. Albeit there were a couple slips (aka addmiting he knows spyder is mafia after saying he was vamp) I think I only noticed those specifically because I knew he was mafia. WEll played.

I had so much fun this game, I claimed like 5 different things n.n
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 29 2010 00:21 GMT
#2767
On October 29 2010 09:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it was not smart to roleclaim when you did

town could have won pretty easily if you didn't rc

I think that vampires already knew he was mafia anyway as he was hit before.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 29 2010 00:25 GMT
#2768
nemesis: the "i will have you checked" inconsistency was a blunder on my part, but i had told many people who asked to be blue checked that i would let them know if we chose them, and i figured i told you that too, which i didnt

furthermore, we were going after zerroth anyway even without you pointing him out to me. so if you "proved" my vampire lord role from that, you'd have lucked into it and would have been right, but for the wrong reason.
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 29 2010 00:25 GMT
#2769
I think its my fault that annul won the game. I was highly suspicious of annul so I investigated him. When it turns out that he is JOL, I considered the fact that he might be Count. However, I ignored that idea because I had no allies so I thought to myself, "F*** it, I'll risk it." If I didn't investigate annul, I think the town might have won.

*I SCREWED THE TOWN OVER. LOL*
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 29 2010 00:26 GMT
#2770
LOL i had to wonder. how did everyone feel about my "im willing to team up with mafia/vamps." Funny how they won anyway.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 29 2010 00:30 GMT
#2771
aztro: i knew you were blue. i figured you may have even been a DT. the questions i asked you on day 1 and night 1 were designed specifically to elicit a check if you were the DT. i hinted that i had a role and that i wanted to work with you, but had no problem at all just cutting you out of my plan. this was calculated and intentional.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 00:40:48
October 29 2010 00:33 GMT
#2772
On October 29 2010 09:25 annul wrote:
nemesis: the "i will have you checked" inconsistency was a blunder on my part, but i had told many people who asked to be blue checked that i would let them know if we chose them, and i figured i told you that too, which i didnt

furthermore, we were going after zerroth anyway even without you pointing him out to me. so if you "proved" my vampire lord role from that, you'd have lucked into it and would have been right, but for the wrong reason.

I had plenty of other arguments that I was planning to use besides that, but you can call it the meat of my sandwich.

Edit: Such as the aeres incident with kitaman. I don't know how people missed that. Especially when kitaman said he pmed someone about checking Aeres and then he died the next night phase, and since you were the only one who publicly claimed that he knew dts, you were really the only one he could have pmed. Although that pm didn't exist at all.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 29 2010 00:35 GMT
#2773
aztro: i knew you were blue. i figured you may have even been a DT. the questions i asked you on day 1 and night 1 were designed specifically to elicit a check if you were the DT. i hinted that i had a role and that i wanted to work with you, but had no problem at all just cutting you out of my plan. this was calculated and intentional.


I'm so glad I gave you an attitude on the first day and rejected to corporate. LOL. hehehe. If you didn't PMed me, I woulda investigated SPYDR
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 29 2010 00:38 GMT
#2774
What's with the people acting soo scummy in the first two days? got me confused -_-

I'm looking at Bill Murray, Jodogohoo, Bill Murray, Coagulation, Bill Murray... catching my drift?


And I wish Pandein was a bit more adamant about his blue status. If we had formed the circle earlier on, I think we'd have had a better chance.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 29 2010 00:39 GMT
#2775
my messages with annul that led me to suspect him and investigate him:

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if you say so

i dont agree with your assessment, but i get the feeling we do not agree on a lot of things in terms of game strategy

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:
Ok, I don't mind if you don't trust me. I prefer it if people don't ask me who I placed a bomb at. All this time, the only thing you accomplish in my eyes is reveal that you exist in this game and can be a threat to the town.

Actually, by Pandain telling you the truth, I suspect him more because a good person would have kept it a secret in order to protect him. That was his test. Right now, I am seriously considering Pandain to be a M/V because he revealed this info. If he wasn't a veteran, I would understand but since he is, I think he would know better. Muahahahaha.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
ok then

you gained that pandain told me you bombed him, which you told him you did, which he has no reason to lie to me if he is town or otherwise about that fact

you gained that i asked him (which i said i would) and that i would reply that back to you

you lost my participation with you, because now i do not trust you to be forthright.

i will attempt to find someone else.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:
I didn't spend many hours to get this end result. I spent maybe 30 min in all to replay to all my PM and to replay to you. I think I gathered alot of info and was very productive with my time.

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Original Message From annul:
if you say so

you could have taken less than many hours of game time to get to this end result, but so it goes.



-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:
Doesn't sound very convincing. However, I will tell you this. I tell anybody that asks me who I planted my bomb on that I planted it on them. As a result, I will be less likely to be killed at night if they turn out to be M/V.

I will not disclose my information to you either or anyone else. However, there is a possible that I actually did plant on him because I do suspect him.

I decided to send you to ask him for his reply merely to see how he responded. I thought that this would give me more intel then merely saying that I planted it on you. Ty, you served my purpose very well. Moral of this reply is do try to pry info from a JoL.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
fine by me

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Original Message From aztrorisk:
If I tell you, you have to promise that you won't tell pandain what I am gonna tell you.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
he just told me that you put it on him

this makes no sense, because if this is true, why would you send me to him? why do you trust him enough to tell me that fact but you obviously think he is scum or you wouldn't try to bomb him

something does not add up

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:
I think he is afk right now.

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Original Message From annul:
if you say so

i have asked pandain. i wonder what he could tell me that would make me understand why id have to go through him for your bomb targets, but alright, i am willing to wait for his reply

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:
You'll see if you ask him. You can ask me afterwards to confirm what he said so you can know for sure. If I tell you, I have a higher chance of getting killed.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
?

why? if pandain tells me the truth, it is no different from you telling me directly

if pandain lies, then why would i want to ask him to begin with?


-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:

I told Pandain since I trust him now. You have to ask him for that info because I'll let him reveal it to you because I trust him since LSB trusted him (the other JoL). Just tell Pandain that I told you to ask him.
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Original Message From annul:
if you are actually JOL, who have you placed your bombs on?

i do not simply ask you for the hell of it.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 29 2010 00:58 GMT
#2776
http://pastebin.com/7f1rGgHy <--- #teamedward logs, in full. a lot of shit in there.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
October 29 2010 01:19 GMT
#2777
GOD DAMNIT!
I had suspicions on annul right off the bat and I never pushed it through. >_< FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU.
I also had suspicions on kitaman, but never did anything about it... sigh. Such fail. >_< If only I did more analysis. God T_T sad game as townie for me.
darkness overpowering
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 01:35:30
October 29 2010 01:22 GMT
#2778
On October 29 2010 09:58 annul wrote:
http://pastebin.com/7f1rGgHy <--- #teamedward logs, in full. a lot of shit in there.


so much hate on me
I'd prefer feedback on what I can do better. I'm always learning '

I thought I played fairley well in that game. Caught a mafia, got several blues to me, coordinated them, got mafia to double shoot me(townie), but apparently "im terrible" and "retarded" .

Improvements? I don't like being disliked :/
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 01:23 GMT
#2779
On October 29 2010 09:58 annul wrote:
http://pastebin.com/7f1rGgHy <--- #teamedward logs, in full. a lot of shit in there.

just so everyone knows <DoctorHelvetica> is youngminii and I'm RyRy, maybe ChloeChloe sometimes
RIP Aaliyah
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 29 2010 01:44 GMT
#2780
and this conversation with aztrorisk is what started it all. first message is when he came out to me, and the last three messages (the ones at the top) crystallized my game strategy. funnily enough, not so sure i would have pulled the trigger so early if not to save quickstriker.


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From: aztrorisk [ 467 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: code
Date: 10/19/10 10:43
Ok, heres the deal

You can go around and ask for someone to claim blue. If you do get someone to claim blue, then I'll check him.

However, I'm just warning you that V/M will assume that your DT and you are very likely to die. That is my only concern.

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Original Message From annul:
i want to get blues confirmed, i think it is more powerful to form a confirmed circle than to go after suspicious people. this is why i want some blue to come out to me (without saying what they are) for you to check and bring them in

do you think it is too early to do this?

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:

Oh,I guess you did.

BTW, I'ma check quicksilver. He looks very suspicious.
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Original Message From annul:
yes i did

i told you orgolove and glurio, scroll down its there

i know i can move glurio's, but what i am saying is if he dies by the town, then i have only 1 bomb at orgolove. if i move glurio's bomb onto someone, and then both myself and orgolove die at night, then i only bomb one target. that's why i try to not lynch who i got my bombs on, cuz the same logic will apply no matter what.

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Original Message From aztrorisk:
bTW, you never told me who do you have the bombs on.

If you have two bombs planted, you can move it tonight.

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Original Message From annul:
i think he is too, thats why i got my bomb on him

i am trying not to vote my bomb targets, just in case. i dont want him to be lynched in the day and then, say, i get hit at night and now i possibly can only bomb 1 person (if orgo is hit at night too)

i would much rather it have been artanis or heavon that the wagon rolled on. i think glurio dies today anyway though.

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Original Message From aztrorisk:

hey, can you change ur vote to Gurio? I think he has a good chance to be mafia because BM was a big advocate for vendril.
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Original Message From annul:
obviously im not going to tell them you are a DT

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Original Message From aztrorisk:

My code was wrong (however, it might still be right) but the reactions to the code is what leads me to consider these candidates. NO revealing my identity at all cost because it would mean that I would immediately die.
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Original Message From annul:
orgolove and glurio

as a side note, i am trying to not give away your secret in my defense from ghrur, but not so sure how to do this without just continuing to say "my code was right, stfu" and without discrediting you -- what should i do?

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Original Message From aztrorisk:
Hey, who are your 2 bombs currently located at?

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Original Message From annul:
alright

im going to sleep, when i wake up i will try to think of more that can be done

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Original Message From aztrorisk:
Basically, it was me being stupid and paranoid that I would die and I claimed JoL in order to reduce the chances of me getting targeted. I thought it ended up working. I still want to claim to be JoL.

I don't know if I believe glasse anymore because of what happened with glasse. If I stay alive, we'll have another member of target for our time circle every day.

Honestly, your the only person I completely trust.
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Original Message From annul:
can you explain to me the thought process behind the day 1 JOL claim? what info did you try to get from that? what info DID you get from it?


if you believe glasse is boogeyman (which i do), i wonder if we can get a town circle going. i dont want to pull a pandain though and draw attention to myself. JOL is a late game role more than anything.



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Original Message From aztrorisk:

yup. that is why I revealed myself to you. now we can work together. Man, everything I worked up to now has been sabotaged by the invisible man. Damn it!
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Original Message From annul:
finally, something concrete from you. =]

okay, we need to break this game open somehow. pandain was your night 1 (framed) and i was your night 2, right?


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Original Message From aztrorisk:
Your a JoL.

I'm a DT

don't tell anyone





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