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You addressed everything else, but you kinda dodged the main point against you, which was your unfounded aggression against OpZ. This main point is also probably the main reason for the vote train against you.
On October 10 2010 23:59 Amber[LighT] wrote: Is Opz lying? Well if you want to be sure we can lynch him. He isn't really useful anymore if he's already been hit once. For a number of different reasons, already outlined in the thread, this is pretty illogical He has been playing the fence throughout the whole game. Usually he pushes players against a wall more frequently, and he wasn't doing this in an aggressive way this time.
For the second lynch this implies that you've got OpZ down as lynch #1 in your head, you guys can figure it out. You wanted 2, now start investigating. I'm going to just vote for Xelin again since the double lynch plan was more sound with Xelin dying yesterday and BM dying today. Instead of trying to justify this comment in your defense, you actually said that you didn't advocate lynching OpZ 100%, but rather wanted to keep us on our toes. I know I should be wary of OpZ lying, but it's pretty clear from the bolded parts of your statement that you want OpZ dead for one reason or another. On top of that, you voted OpZ and tried to say you were abstaining. I just don't see the logic behind it at all, and your defense didn't adequately cover this most pressing point.
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Can someone point me to a good XeliN analysis? I remember reading one but I can't find it, and in light of the large number of votes on XeliN I feel like looking over it again. (BC, I think you did an analysis on XeliN, if you want to draw up the main points against him, that would work too).
There are so many people under fire, it's really tough to put a confident vote, and like I said earlier, I want to check over the analyses and defenses thoroughly. Bold names are those that have not posted a defense, or posted a mostly inadequate (from my perspective) defense. BloodyC0bbler - defended himself acceptably when I put him under pressure, and started posting actively and giving decent analysis. I will probably move my vote off him in light of this. SouthRawrea - did post a defense, but I'd like a little more elaboration on why/how he decided to accuse 6 players in one post. Amber[LighT] - Pretty much dodged the main attack on him, and has been asserting that he never advocated for lynching OpZ. Crisis_ - has not responded to pressure. Has not voted. CynanMachae - has disappeared under pressure (in fact, was a pretty major suspect the previous day, but he hasn't posted since last night). Has not voted. Xelin - Seems to be a major suspect, although I need to see a comperhensive analysis of him before I'm fully convinced. The fact that he's posted a lot of bare one-liners, though, is odd. kane]deth[ - Pressured, but responded by calling the analysis "bullshit," defense was inadequate. Has not voted.
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On October 12 2010 09:10 LSB wrote:Okay, I'm begining to worry about the SR bandwagon. SR actually defended him self. I'm not supporting him or anything, but I'm worry about things like this Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 09:01 Hyperbola wrote: ##vote Southrawrea ##vote Bloodyc0bbler People poping in, voting SR without a post, I'm just getting worried. I'll switch my vote away from BM because obviously it won't do anything important, and place it back on kane]deth[ ok WTF
On September 08 2010 13:30 BrownBear wrote: Signup list:
1. JeeJeeLSB 2. bumatlarge Killed Night 1, Town 3. Bill Murray 4. Pandain 5. SouthRawrea 6. Amber[LighT] 7. Infundibulum Killed Night 1, Town 8. Divinek 9. Misder Day 2 Lynch, Townie 10.SINiquity 11.XeliN 12.kane]deth[ 13.~OpZ~ 14.DoctorHelvetica 15.infinitestory 16.cSc Modkilled Day 2, Veteran 17.Happy.fairytail BloodyC0bbler 18.NukeTheBunnys 19.Crisis_ 20.drag_ 21.CynanMachae 22.meeple 23.kingjames01 24.ghrur 25.Protactinium Lynched Day 1, Village Idiot
since WHEN do we have a player named Hyperbola in this game
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On October 12 2010 09:17 Pandain wrote: ##Revive Not enough minerals.
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If he got the voting threads mixed up, that doesn't explain why he voted for two suspects in this game, including one who isn't in Haunted Mafia at all.
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wow man. Haunted Mafia isn't doing a double lynch, but this guy voted for two people who have been under pressure in our mafia, neither whom has a single vote over in Haunted Mafia (afaik), and one of whom isn't even participating in Haunted Mafia. ...how? I applaud Divinek's succinct yet enlightening commentary and analysis of the situation, but unfortunately it came right after a post which I expected responses to.
On October 12 2010 09:03 infinitestory wrote: Can someone point me to a good XeliN analysis? I remember reading one but I can't find it, and in light of the large number of votes on XeliN I feel like looking over it again. (BC, I think you did an analysis on XeliN, if you want to draw up the main points against him, that would work too).
There are so many people under fire, it's really tough to put a confident vote, and like I said earlier, I want to check over the analyses and defenses thoroughly. Bold names are those that have not posted a defense, or posted a mostly inadequate (from my perspective) defense. BloodyC0bbler - defended himself acceptably when I put him under pressure, and started posting actively and giving decent analysis. I will probably move my vote off him in light of this. SouthRawrea - did post a defense, but I'd like a little more elaboration on why/how he decided to accuse 6 players in one post. Amber[LighT] - Pretty much dodged the main attack on him, and has been asserting that he never advocated for lynching OpZ. Crisis_ - has not responded to pressure. Has not voted. CynanMachae - has disappeared under pressure (in fact, was a pretty major suspect the previous day, but he hasn't posted since last night). Has not voted. EBWOP: has been traveling, but I expect him to resume defending himself. Xelin - Seems to be a major suspect, although I need to see a comperhensive analysis of him before I'm fully convinced. The fact that he's posted a lot of bare one-liners, though, is odd. kane]deth[ - Pressured, but responded by calling the analysis "bullshit," defense was inadequate. Has not voted. God. I changed my vote from BC to Cynan because Cynan was a suspect who vanished, but now that Cynan is back I expect to see my vote change again. I'm glad to see my vote could be more informed, though - that's always a good thing.
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On October 12 2010 12:45 Bill Murray wrote: fuck, i messed that up. sorry. i believe he is voting 3 times, though. /agree
As far as I can tell, kane]deth[ never voted for SR
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I'm here, I took the PSAT yesterday (like ghrur iirc). I apologize for being inactive
Of your list, DrH, I especially want to hear from CynanMachae. I thought he was a pretty big suspect until he vanished (on vacation, he claims) and then the analysis on him died down. CYNANMACHAE WHERE ARE YOU
On October 15 2010 08:57 SouthRawrea wrote: The people that voted me that day had failed to respond to my recent actions. Ghrur for example completely overlooks my defense and proceeds by calling Kingjames01's analysis beautiful and fails to notice my gigantique analysis on drag_ which also fulfilled my earlier promise. Alot of the current votes on me are remnants of votes that should have been quelled yesterday but are still there. Some might be there in questioning of my list of people that I made and others might be there simply because they don't want to believe that the defense that I wrote up is good enough. So be it. Just know that at this point in this day that there are no proper accusations on me and that you should rethink your votes and the situation that I am in. Just know that it was not me vs Amberlight and Xelin yesterday. Rather I was pitted up against them against my will. Is there really still a big case on me? I think not.
SR, I didn't see you give a complete defense of yourself for making a post accusing 6 people simultaneously (then going on to target many more pretty arbitrarily afterward). Doing an analysis doesn't justify that quantity of accusations. And if people voted for you yesterday, I don't see why they shouldn't vote for you today, seeing as you hardly did anything in between.
HOWEVER, the fact that SR defended himself at all, and the fact that he made some posts of content, makes me less willing to join the bandwagon. I'm going to vote for Cynan again, because he never put up a defense at all (despite returning from his vacation days ago).
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GG... I tried this turned into a pretty dead game after we missed on that double lynch
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too bad that protect led to almost as much controversy as it was worth >_>
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ok wtf so the detectives pretty much all knew each other
DrH and kingjames did really impressive pro-town games, I'm amazed (I also had a feeling Godfather would pose as a DT) BC we knew, but he defended himself more than some of the townies >___> and based on the modkills and lynch, I was prepared to guess Divinek and ghrur as mafia o_O
I think the crux of this game boiled down to having so many new players / inactives that finding suspects who didn't defend themselves or couldn't do it properly was more than easy, it was guaranteed.
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On October 15 2010 14:58 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2010 14:52 CynanMachae wrote:Me and DrH, but that's if DrH wasn't the godfather and I got unlucky << @inf well at least you protected one hit How did you know infinitestory was the medic??? he investigated me on the last night
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also f it Crisis, if you find a poisoner CLAIM IT
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I put my 100% faith in OpZ for a reason... :/
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On October 15 2010 15:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2010 15:02 infinitestory wrote: I put my 100% faith in OpZ for a reason... :/ Opz really should have pushed to kill me. I honestly, seriously honestly, thought I was dead soon as I subbed in. I read over hft's posts and was like "I am so fucked" bill murray is a fucking prophet
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lol i love the mafia post-game everyone who's so serious while the game's going on just suddenly turns all giddy
even though we lost, I'm looking forward to my next game ;_;
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it really REALLY did NOT help that we had 4 modkills, including two blues and two greens, and one of them was a DT who had even found a poisoner
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On October 15 2010 15:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2010 15:07 infinitestory wrote: lol i love the mafia post-game everyone who's so serious while the game's going on just suddenly turns all giddy
even though we lost, I'm looking forward to my next game ;_; Dude, Every night I told my teammates "expect me to be checked tonight/vigi'd" then "let me cause a shitstorm when I'm accused" Each day I somehow didn't get screwed and we pushed someone else to the gallows. Town was way to passive this game, I really should have died. that is likely my fault, actually
i didn't like your contradictions, but i accepted your defense because there were more pressing targets with no defense
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On October 15 2010 15:12 CynanMachae wrote:I trusted you DrH so did we all
makes sense now that DrH and kingjames01 would back each other up... and that ghrur would agree with kingjames... it was the triangle of towncred ;-;
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i honestly love that you guys didn't lynch me after my day 1, which i might as well have posted while high/drunk/somehow or other incapacitated
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