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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 01 2010 08:36 GMT
#176
Hm hm hm, been a while, I'd like to sign up
/in
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 04 2010 06:13 GMT
#216
Well if random pick is chosen, how would you suggest doing it so that it's fair and objective?

And Misder, there isn't really much red hunting possible on the first day...
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 05 2010 17:13 GMT
#267
On October 06 2010 01:54 Divinek wrote:
##vote CynanMachine

At least you could get my name right (but I would blame it on that list <<)

And whoever said that I haven't posted, I did. It wasn't anytihng much useful but still.

On October 06 2010 00:21 NukeTheBunnys wrote:
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On October 04 2010 15:13 CynanMachae wrote:
Well if random pick is chosen, how would you suggest doing it so that it's fair and objective?

And Misder, there isn't really much red hunting possible on the first day...


Is Cynan's only post thus far, so he is not completely inactive. However due to trying to convince people you cant hunt reds the first day, and trying to stay below the radar by posting the bare minimum, I am accusing him of being Mafia.

Defend yourself or get lynched.

I didn't say you can't do anything, but yes, one the first day it's very hard to find much because if red play somewhat semi-decently there isn't enough speculation around to have enough hints that someone is red. But sure if you have any suspisions share them.

I'm going to vote for an inactive as well, I don't like the random method, cause it does seems to me that its kinda hard to achieve anything with that. And like DrH said, saying that we are voting for an inactive force them to post, and force them to put stuff around that can be analyzed if they are indeed red. Voting agaisnt random doesn't accomplish anything cause it doesn't force them to do anything, just wait.
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 06 2010 01:22 GMT
#344
Wow, am I really leading in votes so far? Lynching me would really be a bad idea.

I agree with all of you that Padain's posting is a bit weird on defending me, since he can't know that I'm not mafia from my 2 posts and saying I'm playing the same as usual is really not much cause I don't think I've even changed my playstyle much in games were I was mafia, and these two posts really don't say anything right now.

So, since Padain can't know I'm not mafia (no detective play yet), the only way that he can be sure that I'm town is if he's mafia himself. He's probably hoping I do get lynched and can play the "told you so" card then. Not that I think it's a wise decision for a mafia but else I don't see why he would be defending me. The only reason I would see is if he believed we should lynch people that are more inactive, but he didn't seem to suggest that.
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 06 2010 01:24 GMT
#346
On October 06 2010 10:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 10:18 CynanMachae wrote:
##Vote Padain


I'd like to hear why. I disagree with his insistence on lynching Infund but I see no reason to believe he is mafia. Are you merely trying to distance yourself from the accusation that the two of you are in some way connected?

Yea, my explanation is in my post just above.
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 06 2010 04:41 GMT
#459
So incognito was protactanium? Anyway good job lol. I'm surprised people did lynch you tho o.o
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 07 2010 08:02 GMT
#669
God, what the hell is this, this isn't gonna go anywhere, guys you should just ignore BM -_-
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 08 2010 16:40 GMT
#830
On October 08 2010 18:51 kingjames01 wrote:
- CynanMachae ##Vote Padain (2:42 remaining)
Comment: You were in the lead and headed to the gallows. With only 2:42 left before nightfall, why did you not vote for Crisis_ so that you were not in the lead??? Is it possible that you DON'T want Crisis_ to be lynched?

I voted for Pandain because I believed him to be suspect at that point. I didn't vote for Crisis_ to save myself either because I didn't think the votes against me were that threatening, since they all happened earlier on and most of the later discussion were on other suspects.

As for my yesterday's inactivity (which people pointed out), I already said that I didn't post because of BM's crap and there was only a bunch of useless posts for pretty much the last 5-6 pages when I last caught up. If anyone is going to blame me for not taking part in that then go ahead.

I'm not convinced we are going to have that much information for double lynches tomorrow.

I'm going through the posts of each player one at a time, so far in my pro-town players I have LSB, Amber[Light], kingjames and on my red suspects I have BM, Pandain and Crisis_
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 08 2010 17:02 GMT
#833
Two people tomorrow if double lynch passes
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 08 2010 18:56 GMT
#845
On October 09 2010 03:22 Pandain wrote:
The thing is, there were less than three hours to go. And instead of saving yourself, you voted a person who was sure not to get lynched. In fact, you even suspect Crisis now and yet you didn't vote for him. So, here's what we can deduce from that
1.You didn't feel threatened.
Commentary: But why is this? There were less than three hours to go. So I think it's a viable assumption to say you felt that another person would spring up. And in fact, in the last 3 hours Proctat got 5 votes. Suspicious, much?

So you are basically saying that out of the 4 mafias leftover (since i would be the 5th one), I knew that they would swing it over by all voting for someone else and saving me? Seems a pretty dumb mafia move right there with the 6 voters on Protactanium and bumatlarge being a confirmed green.
I didn't feel threatened cause the 3 votes I had happened very early on with quite bad reasons and the rest of the thread was about others suspects/inactives pretty much. 3 hours is quite a lot of time if I come back and see I'm getting the rest of the votes.


On October 09 2010 03:22 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2010 15:13 CynanMachae wrote:
Well if random pick is chosen, how would you suggest doing it so that it's fair and objective?

And Misder, there isn't really much red hunting possible on the first day...


Small post, doesn't really say anything. All this says is "I don't know what to do. You tell me." While that's okay for newer players to an extent, Cynan has played several games before. This isn't neccesarily bad, sprouting ideas, but it isn't that good either.

Lol it looks like that to you? kay

On October 09 2010 03:22 Pandain wrote:
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On October 06 2010 02:13 CynanMachae wrote:
On October 06 2010 01:54 Divinek wrote:
##vote CynanMachine

At least you could get my name right (but I would blame it on that list <<)

And whoever said that I haven't posted, I did. It wasn't anytihng much useful but still.

On October 06 2010 00:21 NukeTheBunnys wrote:
On October 04 2010 15:13 CynanMachae wrote:
Well if random pick is chosen, how would you suggest doing it so that it's fair and objective?

And Misder, there isn't really much red hunting possible on the first day...


Is Cynan's only post thus far, so he is not completely inactive. However due to trying to convince people you cant hunt reds the first day, and trying to stay below the radar by posting the bare minimum, I am accusing him of being Mafia.

Defend yourself or get lynched.

I didn't say you can't do anything, but yes, one the first day it's very hard to find much because if red play somewhat semi-decently there isn't enough speculation around to have enough hints that someone is red. But sure if you have any suspisions share them.

I'm going to vote for an inactive as well, I don't like the random method, cause it does seems to me that its kinda hard to achieve anything with that. And like DrH said, saying that we are voting for an inactive force them to post, and force them to put stuff around that can be analyzed if they are indeed red. Voting agaisnt random doesn't accomplish anything cause it doesn't force them to do anything, just wait.


Several things wrong with this. First, he doesn't do what he says.
"1.I'm going to vote for an inactive." 8 hours later he votes for me. Now, he's already said that he doesn't think theres going to be enough speculation. And it's not too far a stretch to say that he may have found enough evidence on me to indicate I might be mafia. Really the only thign he contributes here is "Voting against random doesn't accomplish anything cause it doesn't force them to do anything." Anything else he doesn't do, repeats what others said, or states the obvious.

So, basically, when someones change his mind, he's mafia right? You might want to look at the vote history again and see who talked about voting for an inactive at some point and then who they voted for.

On October 09 2010 03:22 Pandain wrote:
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On October 06 2010 10:22 CynanMachae wrote:
Wow, am I really leading in votes so far? Lynching me would really be a bad idea.

I agree with all of you that Padain's posting is a bit weird on defending me, since he can't know that I'm not mafia from my 2 posts and saying I'm playing the same as usual is really not much cause I don't think I've even changed my playstyle much in games were I was mafia, and these two posts really don't say anything right now.

So, since Padain can't know I'm not mafia (no detective play yet), the only way that he can be sure that I'm town is if he's mafia himself. He's probably hoping I do get lynched and can play the "told you so" card then. Not that I think it's a wise decision for a mafia but else I don't see why he would be defending me. The only reason I would see is if he believed we should lynch people that are more inactive, but he didn't seem to suggest that.


This is perhaps one of the most interesting posts. Now, let's analyze some stuff.

Show nested quote +
Lynching me would be a really bad idea.
Woah... was that a soft blue claim? Or was it just saying "im townie so don't lynch me. " This is something that must be noted. However, if he's blue, and he's on the lynch, then why is he voting for me? Him and crisis are tied at 3 votes, and if he's blue why doesn't he saeve himself? He's already noted he's tied for leading in votes. That doesn't make sense.

See earlier in my post.

On October 09 2010 03:22 Pandain wrote:
Also in this post he leaps to several conclusions that do not spring from the facts. Let's see what he says
1. "Pandain knows I'm town, therefore he must be mafia. "
Whats wrong: First off, I don't know your town. I was merely stating that you have been playing along with your normal behavior in previous games.
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On October 06 2010 05:56 Pandain wrote:.
However, I should point out that I did not say Cynan was innocent, rather that we don't have enough evidence to lynch him.

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On October 06 2010 05:27 Pandain wrote:
I don't count Cynan as inactive and Nobody should vote for him because his actions thus far are in accordance with his previous play. That's not to say I'm not watching him(I am) but he's not that suspicious to me.


I clearly state my reasons for stating them, and it is because he was consistent with his previous play. Second off, does analysis play no role in determining if someone is mafia? You seem to have left that out. Cynan's post here does not make sense from a self serving perspective or a logical perspective and really only comes to light if he's mafia.

2."Pandain wants to get me lynched so he can build town cred."
Show nested quote +
He's probably hoping I do get lynched and can play the "told you so" card then. Not that I think it's a wise decision for a mafia but else I don't see why he would be defending me.

Whats wrong: How would defending you when you only had two votes at the time help get you lynched? That doesn't make any sense.

Yup, that's exactly what my conclusion were, that you MUST be mafia cause you KNOW I'm town

On October 09 2010 03:22 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 17:02 CynanMachae wrote:
God, what the hell is this, this isn't gonna go anywhere, guys you should just ignore BM -_-


*yawn*

Yup you got me, scummy post right there.

On October 09 2010 03:22 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 01:40 CynanMachae wrote:
On October 08 2010 18:51 kingjames01 wrote:
- CynanMachae ##Vote Padain (2:42 remaining)
Comment: You were in the lead and headed to the gallows. With only 2:42 left before nightfall, why did you not vote for Crisis_ so that you were not in the lead??? Is it possible that you DON'T want Crisis_ to be lynched?

I voted for Pandain because I believed him to be suspect at that point. I didn't vote for Crisis_ to save myself either because I didn't think the votes against me were that threatening, since they all happened earlier on and most of the later discussion were on other suspects.

As for my yesterday's inactivity (which people pointed out), I already said that I didn't post because of BM's crap and there was only a bunch of useless posts for pretty much the last 5-6 pages when I last caught up. If anyone is going to blame me for not taking part in that then go ahead.

I'm not convinced we are going to have that much information for double lynches tomorrow.

I'm going through the posts of each player one at a time, so far in my pro-town players I have LSB, Amber[Light], kingjames and on my red suspects I have BM, Pandain and Crisis_


Alright last non-spam post by him. First off, you didn't say you didn't post because of BM's waste, don't make that up. And due to the soft claim blue it seems, I'm suprised you didn't find it that threatening WITH ONLY 3 HOURS TO GO!

Lol, you just quoted my post about that, just look it up. Let's word it up better tho: I said that there was only BM's crap around when I came to post, so I didn't post.
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 08 2010 18:58 GMT
#846
Just a quick note Brownbear, I appear twice in the votes list in the Vote thread
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 08 2010 23:34 GMT
#874
I don't remember who stated it earlier, but it has been suggested that if BM doesnt die tonight from mafia hits, he's gonna be a target for tomorrow's lynching. If he's the VI and mafia doesn't kill him they risk loosing tomorrow with that lynch.

On October 09 2010 08:04 kingjames01 wrote:
Now, I'm going to go on the record and say that I don't think that CynanMachae is mafia. From his defence post, which I truncated, I think that he didn't realize how close he was to being lynched or the best play to save himself. I think he made a mistake but won't admit to it now. I'd like another explanation please. Did you REALLY gamble on your fate because you GUESSED that someone else would earn 6 more votes (one was repealed)? That seems too flimsy to let pass.

Wut? 6 more votes? From what I recall I was at 3 with some people at 2 and 1 at that point. That's 1-2 votes needed to TIE me and then if needed I could save myself. No I didn't think I was threatened.
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 09 2010 00:00 GMT
#880
On October 09 2010 08:50 kingjames01 wrote:
I posted this a while back and I gave you ample time to prepare a good defence. I even gave you a way out if you wanted it. You just had to admit that you made a mistake. At least that I could understand. There's so much going on, it's really hard to keep everything straight. However, you keep saying that even though you were in the lead, you didn't feel any pressure and that you could get yourself out at any time.

Why would I need time to say what went through my mind when I voted like I did. If you don't think that was the best descision, I'm fine with it. You are basically telling me right now that if I was mafia I could have taken an easy way out that you GAVE me so that I could explain my vote. Good job on trying to find mafias.
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 09 2010 02:32 GMT
#898
On October 09 2010 11:22 SiNiquity wrote:
##Vote Double Lynch - <3 XeliN for pointing out we have unlimited (didn't notice that).

What is this? I'm pretty sure we only have two double lynches
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 09 2010 04:12 GMT
#918
BrownBear said he was probably not going to be there in time to do the night post.
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 12 2010 00:27 GMT
#1080
Lol a smurf.

I've just caught up with the thread, I've been away to montreal all weekend so this is my reason for even lower activityduring the last two days.
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 13 2010 04:07 GMT
#1130
On October 13 2010 06:54 LSB wrote:
Dear Sana Vigi,
I've been a good boy.
Please Kill Bill Murray tonight.
Thank you
-LSB

Now that is kinda ironic
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 14 2010 19:06 GMT
#1149
On October 14 2010 21:05 meeple wrote:
Just threw my vote on the doctor for now... I'll try to make an informed decision later on

And why would you do that? There is plenty of much better candidates o.o

Pretty dead today yea... my vote is gonna go on South again as well
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 15 2010 05:20 GMT
#1174
I think with all those modkills game is going to be pretty much lost... << Let's hope that kanedeth at least is mafia
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 15 2010 05:47 GMT
#1180
Wow was there really 3 dets? o.o
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 15 2010 05:52 GMT
#1183
Me and DrH, but that's if DrH wasn't the godfather and I got unlucky <<

@inf well at least you protected one hit
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 15 2010 05:57 GMT
#1186
On October 15 2010 14:54 BrownBear wrote:
Mafia elected DrHelvetica as godfather, he chose to appear as a Detective.

FFUUUUUU
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 15 2010 06:00 GMT
#1190
On October 15 2010 14:58 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 14:52 CynanMachae wrote:
Me and DrH, but that's if DrH wasn't the godfather and I got unlucky <<

@inf well at least you protected one hit


How did you know infinitestory was the medic???

I checked him
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 15 2010 06:06 GMT
#1202
Yea that no claiming didn't help... and then getting modkilled
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 15 2010 06:12 GMT
#1214
I trusted you DrH
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 15 2010 14:38 GMT
#1256
On October 15 2010 23:02 Pandain wrote:
what I found interseting is that all the mafia in this game were active contributors(maybe except for divinek and slightly ghurur). They were probably the most active out of everyone. So much for the stereotype of the lurking mafia.

Well 2 out of 5 lurking mafias isn't that much out of stereotypes I think
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