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On October 09 2010 12:46 Misder wrote: After I die (if I die), you guys need to rethink how mafia actually think and post. If you reread my posts (you don't have to) there are things that I say that mafia wouldn't say (or at least I would think they wouldn't, but then what do I know...). Reminder: Town, youre suppose to be scum hunting. Destroy all the reds plz. Detectives, you guys are key. Use your power to search people that act a bit scummy to tell whether or not they actually are (someone experienced at this game might want to correct me on this, but don't trust anyone (lol, I remember quoting ~Opz~ saying this exact same thing, and I called him out on it; yay contridiction)). People, discuss more. Everyone agrees that discussion generates evidence against mafia. Also, use what you know to your advantage. Oh, about the not trust anyone thing, I really mean it. My first game of mafia, I trusted DTA, the mayor and probably the most active in the game who gave everything a noob needed to be sucked in, and completely failed to even hint that he was mafia. This is probably directed to people who trust someone like Pandain (not saying hes scummy; personally I think hes green). If Pandain was mafia, he knows who mafia is and who isnt. By how the town is playing right now, its not hard for mafia Pandain to find posts that seem scummy, write an analysis on why a post that is somewhat kinda scummy makes that person an absolute lynch target, and get away with it. So don't follow people around; dont get influenced (lol, now im sounding like a transcendalist...). unless said person is bill murray but i'm going to die tonight anyways | ||
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I worked from 8am until 10pm last night, and then went out to party because today is like my only day off work. @LSB: I guess I wasn't killed because I was poisoned. That is my guess. A secondary explanation could be the fact that mafia feel they can lynch me easily, or that I'm a bad player and can be kept around. Pandain was a very interesting kill. I'll have to read his posts in a little bit. I want to do some things first. | ||
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me too i now know how ace feels in those games where i think he's one thing when he's not | ||
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Why are you voting him DoctorH? If I've missed something that has happened, sorry, I haven't gotten a chance to read some of it yet | ||
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On October 11 2010 07:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote: doesn't post never contributes only posts when accused bad job of defending self constant excuses for inactivity when RoL took his role he also made excuses for inactivity already made an excuse to be active for our third (and probably our most important) day cycle it was said earlier that it is very likely some mafia are hiding amongst inactives, kane]deth[s stand out to me as the most scummy and is worthy of my second vote, at least for now alright. i'll vote for him, even if i am happy he is actually playing now. him actually playing =/= he's not scum | ||
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On October 11 2010 13:02 kane]deth[ wrote: After looking back at Divinek's posts, I understand his mentality of pressuring me now. He seems mostly pro-town, pressuring the less active people into posting and trying to find out if they're red or not. He pretty much is just suspicious of inactives. + Show Spoiler + On October 06 2010 00:13 Divinek wrote: oh my god lol. I think besides just sheer probability alone there is more than likely at least one mafia member in there. Yes they are likely to be active on day1, but they are also likely to just stay above the threshold of activity to go unnoticed. When there's that many people inactive there's not much pressure to post more than that 1, 'im here post', and even then they wouldn't have to until some more of these people start posting. SUP cynanmachine, you have the longest name so you stand out to me! + Show Spoiler + On October 02 2010 07:05 Divinek wrote: it's all if you think you can be active enough lol. Really you would probably only need to dedicate maybe an hour a day, during day cycles, to the game to be perfectly active enough. + Show Spoiler + On September 08 2010 14:01 Divinek wrote: wait the inactive player is hosting a game, i duuuuuuuunno. Is artanis active enough to compensate or something So yeah, from early on you can tell he has a dislike for inactives. So how does he deal with this? He likes to pressure people to talk by voting for them or otherwise. + Show Spoiler + On October 06 2010 01:51 Divinek wrote: the idea is to not truly hang someone that has barely posted. Put to pressure someone with the threat of killing them should they not speak up. You are correct we NEVER get a mafia by killing someone that doesn't talk. This is because mafia have their buddies to help them out, and generally mafia players are more interested in the game so they will respond to pressure. Now obviously responding to pressure is a trait of every role in the game. But too many times there is a mafia in the lower what 10% of activity that manages to slip by because NO ONE pressures them, this is what we want to avoid. It is very difficult to find a mafia member if they don't have to talk. And they only have one motivation to talk, not to die. + Show Spoiler + On October 06 2010 01:54 Divinek wrote: oh right there's only 11 hours left ##vote CynanMachine SPEAK UP BOY, if he doesnt ill have to look at someone that isnt going to get mod killed + Show Spoiler + On October 06 2010 05:30 Divinek wrote: though i do support what pandain is doing rng'ing amongst the inactives if that is the way you're going to vote because at least that makes sense. I mean i picked my guy because he had a long name, and look it got him posting! well he made one shitty post but still it worked + Show Spoiler + On October 06 2010 07:23 Divinek wrote: actually, actively singling out people and trying to beat them into the ground invokes quite a strong defense from the person who is being attacked, which is exactly what we need. Though I don't really like the shove it down your throat approach this early in the game, I see little wrong with taking the spot light to try and get people like you to do nothing but fan flames. The only issue that arises from this type of play is convincing yourself too easily that the person is mafia and then trying to make connections where there aren't really any. More so the idea is to place a FoS on the person and follow up the crusade in following days when more evidence has proven itself useful. Trying to hard is much much better than not trying enough. Because if someone is red and they're putting out alot of content we'll know it. But if someone like you is posting only once they see a chance to put light on someone, it makes it alot harder to analyze their thought process and go through and see their goals as anything other than fanning ala flames. I don't think you're acting poorly yet, but keep an open mind that just taking jabs at people for stuff like this is extremely weak, however it is fine day one as it does, just like scum hunting invoke a response BUT it is worse because while the person you're attacking generates content, you yourself really arent. Oh my god that sentence had wayy too many commas. Besides this he's analyzed me and XeliN. + Show Spoiler + On October 07 2010 22:31 Divinek wrote: okay i really shouldn't let this post slip up under the radar. lets pick apart individual parts to really get an idea of how blatant this shit is. straight up admits to being lazy and this is a good cover should he make any glaring errors in interpreting the situation. Which is FINE as long as he doesn't take some concrete stance from this right, after all he hasn't thoroughly read the thread right? first of all, there are two people that sent out the fucking PMs, ask them if you want they can verify. Secondly trying to pick apart wording from a role pm is HILARIOUS because as with every mafia game the example pm is in the fucking OP well this certainly seems to hurt with his first mini quote. He admits to barely reading the thread, and seemingly wants to JUMP at any chance to be able to vote at someone. Like first of all someone listening to bm's reasoning without discretion after he got the VI lynched = LOL secondly someone going well I DIDNT READ THE THREAD, then agreeing with someone who clearly is retarded is a terrible lapse in judgement. This is the first solid red read i've been getting off of anyone (besides bm but he doesn't count cause he always comes off as scummy). Xelin is not sticking his neck out, xelin is not forming his own opinions, xelin is throwing a vote on someone via someone elses terrible reasoning. This is a common tactic to go 'oh it's only joking semi place holder' then never move it if no one pressures you about it. Well guess what mother fucker you're getting pressure. + Show Spoiler + On October 10 2010 13:24 Divinek wrote: NOOOOO PANDAIN, as much as I hate your fadoodles at least you play this game with heart! I will seek to avenge you my brother Now lets look at this motherfucker kane, I know there’s not much to look at lol Flat out giving us his excuse that he’s not gonna contribute much and be inactive, ie ANTI town. An argument could be made for town neutrality but that would require content from him. This is not an original idea btw, he’s literally parroting about 3 other people at this point. Guilty conscience? I imagine his mafia buddies yelled at him for that one Time and time I have seen new mafia players try this card out. They are confused, they don’t know what to do, this prevents them from having to put forward any of their own ideas because they know they are quite likely to slip up in ways they haven’t even thought of yet. Newbie town players are quite often FEARLESS, they know they got nothing to hide and they get into this game because they are EXCITED to get those mafia! NOT SCARED, why would you be scared if you were town? Then he apologizes for not voting blah blah more guilty conscience fuel See that bolded word there? Yeah that’s right, OTHERs so if it goes bad (which it did) then he can go WELL I DIDN’T WANNA DO IT, but you guys presented such good arguments I agreed! Not my fault! It’s deflection at the most basic level Get rid of bm blah everyone already said that. Jumping on xelin too, everyone else did that. I mean this stuff would be fine to do of his own accord, but he’s just repeating everything that’s already been said. This is KEY because he can’t be caught for spewing bullshit because none of it is his own More I don’t know bullshit, as in don’t expect me to do things, to be useful. Blah blah im sick of your excuses. I love seeing this tactic. He apologizes, then puts up some shit justification and THEN he adds a question to the end of his post, as questions always take up everything you’re thinking about because you immediately try to answer that question and almost seemingly forget what you just read lol, quality double fake of the old flame fanning. Yuh yuh guys I agree with you don’t get angry with me im doing wut u asked. DIE Also as a little tidbit rol almost replaced this dude, look at rols only post in that entire time Excuse for inactivity followed up by NOTHING. Sorry kane you’re not going to continue coasting by unnoticed. There’s nothing but wifom trying to draw away from if it was because of you on his list that pandain was killed or not, but one thing I do know, you’ve been doing fuck all for us and I have a pretty good idea why. You’re getting my vote, I will avenge you pandain! So what can I conclude from this? A mostly pro-town attitude, determined to weed out mafia, and to get others to contribute. Mostly his other posts were commenting on small things like BM and such. Hope this is what analysis is supposed to look like anyways. Actually, THERE IS NO WAY I'M VOTING KANE]DETH[ right now. Reason: I do not see him making this play as mafia. If he did analysis on someone, would he conclude town? If he was mafia, he would want to "Scumhunt", "find a red", and then say lynch this dude. If he was mafia, he would know who was green/blue and not mafia through deductive reasoning, and wouldn't have the balls to make this play imo. | ||
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considering voting him, possibly even instead of BC. BC has been seeming town moreso to me lately | ||
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On October 12 2010 07:20 Amber[LighT] wrote: Just looked at the vote tally if I die tonight this town is more stupid than I originally thought, and this mafia team is very well established. How I went from not even having a mention to beating someone in votes to a person who should have died yesterday is beyond my own comprehension. Maybe my outlandish and ridiculous statements will be taken more seriously. I've been suspicious of you on the inside | ||
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On October 12 2010 10:04 LSB wrote: Amberlight has this weird idea that I'm actually good. It makes me think he's not mafia, or he'd already off me. (Then again... I did break Callers game) I'll switch off of him cause my whole, "Bill Murray and Amberlight" combination didn't really work out as I took my vote off of Bill Murray. I kindof don't like how a) Xelin's role got swept under the rug. And b) Xelin was like "Hey! Lets talk about PMs!" after BB was like "FUUUUUU" I actually agree with this post I wanted to lynch his mafia ass, but I'm not so sure as of his last post, which would make you less sure about your read on the situation in general, wouldn't it? ah, the wonders of townness | ||
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Amber[LighT]: 7 OpZ infinitestory Kingjames01 BloodyC0bbler Bill Murray SouthRawrea kane]deth[ Bloodyc0bbler: 2 Bill Murray XeliN Southrawrea: 6 Divinek DoctorHelvetica meeple ghrur CynanMachae Amber[LighT] kane]deth[: 5 Divinek DoctorHelvetica LSB CynanMachae kane]deth[ | ||
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