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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
September 01 2010 23:09 GMT
#1441
On September 02 2010 07:36 citi.zen wrote:
Way to avoid giving your opinion, and try to start an argument instead.


I thought we WERE arguing.
I quoted you regarding checking LSB, you replied, I replied again, and you pop up that question.

WTF?

It's like we're talking about oranges, and all of a sudden you ask me if I like cats.
Now I'm sincerely thinking your either crazy or just plain idiotic.

In reply to you dumb question.
Changing targets? Changing WHAT targets? Who is our original target? We don't even have one.
Pandain is pretty much the only person bringing up CV targets.
靈魂交響曲
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
September 01 2010 23:12 GMT
#1442
your -> you're
靈魂交響曲
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
September 01 2010 23:15 GMT
#1443
Fuck, there are more typos.

Citizen's logic is making me cringe.
Just to add a bit more content, lets assume we do have an original target "A".
If town can find a better target "B", then sure " I will favor switching the CV's target".
靈魂交響曲
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 23:19 GMT
#1444
On September 02 2010 08:15 Fishball wrote:
Fuck, there are more typos.

Citizen's logic is making me cringe.
Just to add a bit more content, lets assume we do have an original target "A".
If town can find a better target "B", then sure " I will favor switching the CV's target".


I'm pretty sure anyone would do that. I think he's asking you whether we should CV someone besides LSB. But I think I've proven that pretty sufficiently. More importantly, what do you think on BrownBear's slip up.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 23:19 GMT
#1445
EBWOP:
Also, tracker is to track DTA now. Want to make sure he sees this.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
September 01 2010 23:31 GMT
#1446
On September 02 2010 08:19 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 08:15 Fishball wrote:
Fuck, there are more typos.

Citizen's logic is making me cringe.
Just to add a bit more content, lets assume we do have an original target "A".
If town can find a better target "B", then sure " I will favor switching the CV's target".


I'm pretty sure anyone would do that. I think he's asking you whether we should CV someone besides LSB. But I think I've proven that pretty sufficiently. More importantly, what do you think on BrownBear's slip up.



Could be legitimate, as in "I don't have time so I just randomly picked a role".
Regardless, he is still very suspicious. He has been gone for the majority of the game, apologizing and even pushed to be mod-killed. Then all of a sudden he starts to add his two cents.
靈魂交響曲
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
September 01 2010 23:38 GMT
#1447
On September 02 2010 08:04 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 01:12 BrownBear wrote:
I'll add in, seeing as I'm still the only one who hasn't.

Picked Meth Man, got Vanilla.


Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 07:48 BrownBear wrote:
I'll claim. I missed the rolepicking deadline, so I'm vanilla.

And I know I've been inactive, I'm sorry. It's about to be orientation week and I'm working my ass off.



Opz I <3 you.

New change: Tracker tracks Darth.

We lynch Brownbear tommorow.

Amazing catch opz


this is big. bb is mafia, pretty much 100%
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 23:40 GMT
#1448
On September 02 2010 08:38 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 08:04 Pandain wrote:
On September 02 2010 01:12 BrownBear wrote:
I'll add in, seeing as I'm still the only one who hasn't.

Picked Meth Man, got Vanilla.


On August 28 2010 07:48 BrownBear wrote:
I'll claim. I missed the rolepicking deadline, so I'm vanilla.

And I know I've been inactive, I'm sorry. It's about to be orientation week and I'm working my ass off.



Opz I <3 you.

New change: Tracker tracks Darth.

We lynch Brownbear tommorow.

Amazing catch opz


this is big. bb is mafia, pretty much 100%


JeeJee! You're here. I need to ask you a couple of things:
1. What are you. I'm martyring you, but need to know if your joat(so then I can martyr someone else while you protect yourself)
2.Who did you visit last night?
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
September 01 2010 23:41 GMT
#1449
On September 02 2010 08:04 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 01:12 BrownBear wrote:
I'll add in, seeing as I'm still the only one who hasn't.

Picked Meth Man, got Vanilla.


Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 07:48 BrownBear wrote:
I'll claim. I missed the rolepicking deadline, so I'm vanilla.

And I know I've been inactive, I'm sorry. It's about to be orientation week and I'm working my ass off.



Opz I <3 you.

New change: Tracker tracks Darth.

We lynch Brownbear tommorow.

Amazing catch opz


OH SURE YOU GO WITH THAT but you dont even acknowledge the analysis i did on how fucking useless and not helping town this scum bastard has been all game. Yes we should lynch him
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
September 01 2010 23:41 GMT
#1450
On September 02 2010 08:15 Fishball wrote:
Fuck, there are more typos.

Citizen's logic is making me cringe.
Just to add a bit more content, lets assume we do have an original target "A".
If town can find a better target "B", then sure " I will favor switching the CV's target".

Wrong, in this case that only gives the Mafia more options. If you are wrong about the "better " target it can result in an option to kill a townie. If you are right about the "better" target the Mafia will role block the CV.

Fishball and lsb are 90% confirmed reds in my eyes.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
September 01 2010 23:43 GMT
#1451
1. there's no need to make it obvious to mafia who not to hit. if you wish to martyr me, go ahead, but don't choose so 100%. likewise if i'm joat, i'm not going to say i'm protting myself 100%.
2. relevance?
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 23:47 GMT
#1452
On September 02 2010 08:43 JeeJee wrote:
1. there's no need to make it obvious to mafia who not to hit. if you wish to martyr me, go ahead, but don't choose so 100%. likewise if i'm joat, i'm not going to say i'm protting myself 100%.
2. relevance?


1.We're at a point in this game where we SHOULD plan things out so that we can be sure of winning 100%.
2. Need it for info, I already know you HAVE to have visited someone else(since only day vigi can visit once and only once.)


On September 02 2010 08:41 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 08:04 Pandain wrote:
On September 02 2010 01:12 BrownBear wrote:
I'll add in, seeing as I'm still the only one who hasn't.

Picked Meth Man, got Vanilla.


On August 28 2010 07:48 BrownBear wrote:
I'll claim. I missed the rolepicking deadline, so I'm vanilla.

And I know I've been inactive, I'm sorry. It's about to be orientation week and I'm working my ass off.



Opz I <3 you.

New change: Tracker tracks Darth.

We lynch Brownbear tommorow.

Amazing catch opz


OH SURE YOU GO WITH THAT but you dont even acknowledge the analysis i did on how fucking useless and not helping town this scum bastard has been all game. Yes we should lynch him


I wouldn't want to criticize a masterpiece in progress
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
September 01 2010 23:49 GMT
#1453
Nice find opz!
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
September 01 2010 23:50 GMT
#1454
nobody has to visit anyone aside from cv.

likewise, there's never a need to say to mafia: don't hit these targets.
consider me as a martyr option. if i'm joat, i'll consider myself and others as prot options. nothing should be 100% because mafia can just take a green for sure. a joat/doc/martyr that never prots anybody are basically greens, so there's no upside to telling prots to mafia.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 01 2010 23:52 GMT
#1455
On September 02 2010 08:50 JeeJee wrote:
nobody has to visit anyone aside from cv.

likewise, there's never a need to say to mafia: don't hit these targets.
consider me as a martyr option. if i'm joat, i'll consider myself and others as prot options. nothing should be 100% because mafia can just take a green for sure. a joat/doc/martyr that never prots anybody are basically greens, so there's no upside to telling prots to mafia.


Alright, we'll wait to see Fishball's results. However Opz I was a bit confused by what you meant when you said "SAME WITH JEEEEEEEEEEJEEEEEEEEEE". I looked through his posts and didn't find one saying he missed rolepick.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
September 01 2010 23:58 GMT
#1456
On September 02 2010 08:41 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 08:15 Fishball wrote:
Fuck, there are more typos.

Citizen's logic is making me cringe.
Just to add a bit more content, lets assume we do have an original target "A".
If town can find a better target "B", then sure " I will favor switching the CV's target".

Wrong, in this case that only gives the Mafia more options. If you are wrong about the "better " target it can result in an option to kill a townie. If you are right about the "better" target the Mafia will role block the CV.

Fishball and lsb are 90% confirmed reds in my eyes.


You can try and frame your question all you want.
I can also argue that better targets means 100% confirmed players with guns, which are likely to be Mafia.

You never listed out the exact scenario, and popped that question out of the blue. You "knew" what answer I was going to say, and had your "correct" answer waiting.

I'll say it again. Trying too hard citizen?
靈魂交響曲
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
September 02 2010 00:12 GMT
#1457
On September 02 2010 08:43 JeeJee wrote:
1. there's no need to make it obvious to mafia who not to hit. if you wish to martyr me, go ahead, but don't choose so 100%. likewise if i'm joat, i'm not going to say i'm protting myself 100%.
2. relevance?

I think you're scum doctor, DTA is mafioso, and BrownBear is fail mafia?

Was that how your role pm was worded?!

<3 BrownBear
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
September 02 2010 00:51 GMT
#1458
All right.

So, I thought SR was traitor. I guess I was wrong. That leaves Chaoser. I know he is traitor.

Even though he is traitor, by killing him we at least can confirm me. I'm predicting that the Mafia would probably attack me tonight because after Chaoser flips traitor, they want to get rid of the only confirmed townie.

Compvig: Chaoser
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
September 02 2010 00:54 GMT
#1459
lol at LSB's post
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
September 02 2010 00:59 GMT
#1460
On September 02 2010 00:04 citi.zen wrote:
We should not forget this:

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 11:47 LSB wrote:
On August 31 2010 11:35 bumatlarge wrote:
AHEM I MEAN

Bumatlarge was high as a kite that evening. Town actually appreciated his batman antics and gave him some pot, which is legal in liquidia ofc. Batman mask set, he roamed the night. HOLY SHIT A CAT. Oh look LSD's house. Bum sneaks in the back alley, tries to climb over a fence, but it swings open at the climax of his climb. Gravity being the bitch that it is, sent bum on a 3 foot skydive into a trashcan! HOLY SHIT A RACCOON. OW. Bum thanks his lucky stars he developed a rabies immunity when he got bit by that raccoon a second ago. Before Bum could question his reasoning, he runs into some dude smokin a cig at the backdoor.

"Sup homes" Bum said in his gravelly voice
"Uh hello"
"You the tracker?" Bum said in his cementy voice
"Sure.. are you high?"
"YOU BET" Bum said in a stoned voice

bum quickly started talking about his encounters with untame beasts and popular topics often discussed by the stalkers of the night, and the other guy smoked a whole pack. before bum knew it, the sun was coming out!

"Aight later did what I needed too" and then he left.

"Oh wait- oh fudgepops" Bum pebbled.


Wrong house Bum. Lucky I was there too, trying to enjoy my last night properly!

That could explain some of your posts though!

Bum claims he saw a visitor go to LSB. LSB gives a bizarre answer: "Wrong house Bum. Lucky I was there too". Then he tries to make a little joke re: being high (nervous much?). He never brings up the night visit again! I know if I were a townie I would be a lot more curious: why would anyone visit me on the night I was supposed to be CV-ed, while the CV is getting role-blocked? If it happened to me I'd be thinking "I was framed - Chaoser must be the traitor! The mafia must have two traveling roles! This is who I think you need to look at after my death..." LSB did none of that.

In fact, LSB claims on the very next page that he does not think Chaoser is the traitor:

Sigh, I guess I have to requote most of my posts for citizen. AGAIN

On September 01 2010 03:25 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 03:19 bumatlarge wrote:
Apparently rasta visited LSB.


He couldn't have, or else I'd be dead o.o

Anyways, he was roleblocked. Im thinking mafia sent a random role to visit me since they guessed that bum would be watching me.

On September 01 2010 03:40 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 12:55 LSB wrote:
On August 31 2010 12:39 chaoser wrote:
yeah, i'm not traitor lol. I said you can lynch me to confirm my list but at this point SR really should be dead. The fact that the CV was blocked from hitting him looks like mafia was trying to save him via roleblocker


(this also replies your other post)
I don't really think you are traitor, however, this is actually good for the mafia as it meddles up who is wrong and who is right, causing confusion for the town

The best way to figure this out is to confirm Chaoser.
Not by lynching him, that would be bad, but lynching SR. SR flips traitor, chaoser is confirmed, and then we have a nice tight town circle of 5 people, maybe more


Okay, now that everyone has reported back, I've made my decision.

Opz has an excellent reason for claiming tracker. He was trying to bait the mafia but it didn't work. Please take your vote off of Opz. We will need to confirm Chaoser anyways, so it would be reduntent to try to vertify Opz story now

Rasta got a pm for being roleblocked. Even though he targeted me, the mafia thought he was going to target SR. By roleblocking Rasta, SR lives.

Bum saw that someone visisted me last night. Since it was not rasta, this means that mafia has a visiting role
This is because the mafia is the only logical group that would visit me. Unless of course someone could claim

So of the 3 mafia, there is at least a visiting role and a roleblocker.

Chaoser is trustworthy. Confirming him would be very very good.
Of course, we shouldn't just kill him, but once we find the traitor, Chaoser is in the clear.

Where's the traitor then? Well, lets go back to day one. Somehow Southrawrea slipped under our radar, and I don't want to see it again.

More importantly, notice how SR's contributions dramtically decline after the first day, at the same time, he was not under heavy suspicion.

##VOTE: Southrawrea

I did much analysis on what it means that the Mafia sent a role after me. We know a visiting night role is a Mafia member.

I did everything I can, except for asking the mafia to claim. But that's increadibly dumb, mafia would never fall for that trick http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141431&currentpage=64#1279who would do that?




Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 12:55 LSB wrote:
On August 31 2010 12:39 chaoser wrote:
yeah, i'm not traitor lol. I said you can lynch me to confirm my list but at this point SR really should be dead. The fact that the CV was blocked from hitting him looks like mafia was trying to save him via roleblocker


(this also replies your other post)
I don't really think you are traitor, however, this is actually good for the mafia as it meddles up who is wrong and who is right, causing confusion for the town

The best way to figure this out is to confirm Chaoser.
Not by lynching him, that would be bad, but lynching SR. SR flips traitor, chaoser is confirmed, and then we have a nice tight town circle of 5 people, maybe more

Think about that: we've already established one of them has to be the traitor, but LSB tells us he does not think it's Chaoser!

I think LSB is our traitor, just recruited last night.

What I said was that between Chaoser and SR, I was leaning on SR being the traitor.

Now I am certain that Chaoser is the traitor.

Let's look at what Chaoser thinks
On September 01 2010 15:21 chaoser wrote:
Hmm interesting...so me rasta or LSB is a traitor...
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
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