TL Mafia XXX

On August 06 2010 12:03 Bill Murray wrote:
I proclaim the Random Voting Stage hereby dead.
I am voting not for randomness, but because I actually believe Divinek is Mafia.

On August 06 2010 12:26 Bill Murray wrote:

you wouldn't be his scumbuddy trying to dissuade me would you?

On August 06 2010 12:28 DarthThienAn wrote:
"DTA always looks scummy. He can't help it. You can't FoS someone like that with one post. It almost never works that way. "

No matter what I do... =[

On August 06 2010 13:13 Misder wrote:
@Divenek I'll try to be as active as possible. I was better during the end of that last mafia game. At least I was right for my lynching targets

I'm not used to being active early game, so lets try this out. From my last two games, it seemed like we always tried to vote for inactives, except for the XXIII where town voted for a one liner mistake. We shouldn't do that. Because just because you make one mistake early doesn't mean you are mafia, just more likely. We should always be suspicious, but not impulsive. And the other game was where we had to vote for a mayor and a pardoner, so people had to talk.

As for strategies in the beginning... no idea. I'm still learning, (I still haven't done what you told me to do BC sorry!)

On August 06 2010 13:44 youngminii wrote:

Why are you being so hard on Chez? I mean he's not BAD, but when people try to imitate him it's bad (case in point: DTA last game). I don't see why you're trying to force him to change his play when it works for him. Yeah it's annoying but if it works, it works.

What's the bet that if Chez does change his style, bum will accuse him of being scum because of his changed ways?

On August 09 2010 06:02 rastaban wrote:


I can think of a couple flaws.

Mafia claims Watcher, which is which?
Roles already sent their PMs in
We have random townies showing up
We have more than 1 Watcher
We have more than 1 Tracker,DT, Medic
Target gets framed so we lynch xelin and we don't know which blue we can't trust.

This is why a simple version is better

Sorry, I forgot Chez pmed me in response to my mass PM
He sent me this video (I feel noob. Somehow I didn't get the connection between Chez and Chezinu)

I responded with the good old "i can play this game too" response

Chez/his puppet sounds like the're with Flamewheel, trying to make a memorable Mafia XXX.
Sounds fun

Sorry :S

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Chez aint the only one with mind games Im thinking he has to be a power role now whether or not hes scum. But he is Chezinu, so I wouldnt put it past him to just do this as a vanilla.

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FFFFFFFF. Chez never talked to me. You can handle this right? Just don't let Chez know we were talking. And string him along, putting the information where it belongs

Yeah, I'm the one pushing the plan, Foolishness contacts me with a scummy post, assuming I'm a 14 year year old noob.

I probably won't die because Foolishness thinks I'm working with him

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lol holy shit, chez told me that he told you he was a DT, but told me he is actually a tracker...

God damn you really think you are going to die?

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Careful there, Chez hasn't talked to me at all.
Don't tell me anything. Always a good habit to get into.

*Fingers crossed*
*knocks on wood* <--- My friend always does that, I'll give it a try

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Absolutely, I actually was talking with bill Murray about divine, not sure about misder, but this really sparks it. And btw Chez told me his "information" also. He told me some stuff, but dont say anything to me that he might have confided in you. Hopefully the watcher is good

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Okay, I am sending this to you in case I die. You are not the only person I am sending this to.

All I ask is that if I die, can you post this message? Think of it as my will. I will reveal this tomorrow. I played along with Foolishness because I need to survive.

If I do not die, just don't do anything with this, Please. I'll whip it out Day 2 if my plan went well.

I also suspect Divenk/Misder are mafia http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/v..._id=139517&currentpage=11#202, read below he sounds fake.

Forgive me, I'm paranoid

Message below Foolishness sounds scummy
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yessir.

Here's what we can do first. Get a list together of everyone that's commented on your plan. We want to find people who have pointed out minor flaws in your plan without saying much else (most likely mafia). People who actively criticize your plan are probably town (they don't want the town to enact some stupid plan), and people who try to improve your plan are probably town as well. If someone makes a moot post pointing out a flaw or passively agreeing to it, they are top suspect.

Obviously it's night time and not a lot of people are around so we're not going to have a lot of data, but it'll be a start.

Let me know what you find. We'll then figure out someone for you to start PMing with.

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Sure, I'll help you

Of course, you're going along with the plan right?

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Hello, I am Foolishness

I am asking you to help me in finding the mafia among the lurkers.

I have sent this PM to you because I think you can help me out. It is crucial for us, as the town, to use PMing to our advantage to weed out the mafia members.

Although no plan is foolproof, I ask if you are willing to PM other players in order to get them to slip up. There are some people that would act differently if I were to PM them, since I am apparently a figurehead for this game. There's also a limit to the amount of people I am able to keep track of through PMs (and right now it's a lot). The benefits are great, and as long as you run things by me the risks are small.

I look forward to hearing from you
Foolishness

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Hello, I am LSB.
I am asking you to follow this plan for night one http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/v..._id=139517&currentpage=43#845

I have sent this PM to everyone playing Mafia XXX. In order for us to succeed, we need to work together.

Although no plan is foolproof, I ask that you go though and review it. We could not find any way that the mafia could slip and disrupt it. I believe the plan speaks for itself. The benifts are great, and the risks are small

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions
LSB

Haters gonna hate, but try to make it relevant, and you are playing the game, try to read up on everything please -_-

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Just so you know, I haven't read the thread this game. I've been talking to flamewheel the most out of everyone in this game. He is the one who came up with the video every post.. I agreed, but then later said, how about a story every post.. I was the last person to join.. flamewheel wanted me to play.. He offered me a challenge.. A challenge I might lose..

Pretty much, I'm just waiting for Day 1 to end so that I can start playing.. Well night 1 now. Once he announce how long day 1 was going to be I was like.. afk... I've just been waiting for the game to start.. As I wait, I try to come up with stories/videos to make flamewheel happy. As flame predicted, people are going to get sick of my videos and are going to get mad. The challenge is to see if I can last.

If you were in my position, what would you do?

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Oh god hahaha well, I can say I know who the tracker is if you want, and tell people after the night is over whatever you want them to know.

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ok, but I'm not the watcher.. I'm a tracker!

I have to post videos and stories in thread for other reasons.

I'm scared to post this...

+ Show Spoiler +


people are getting mad..

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lol ok, do you want me to be a spokesperson? I can publicly say who you will watch, wont give any hints to who you are, and you can say what you need to.

You dont have to let me know anything, in fact if you think the facts are inconclusive or not safe to know, you keep them to yourself. Any info you want to say, I will state "The watcher... blahblahblah" That way mafia will only try to kill me and not a blue. Alright?

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Guess who visited The Scribe?

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OK went over details. Im assuming you are a watcher, and you are hinting blues to visit that scribe dude. If mafia doesnt see it coming, or catch it you can start building a circle. Are you thinking I was blue? I am vanilla. I figure it wouldnt really matter if you knew, and why would you PM me if you were red? So im throwin my chips in with you. I can be a spokesperson if you or whatever. Hopefully there is no roleblocker or he doesnt notice.

Hope a med protects you too, but then you wouldnt find out who that is :D
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Town no lynch me. They shoot me or my mafia teammates lynch me. Or I'm attached to an aggro manic who gets me lynched.

I liked how you address town at the being + townie points. youngminii is annoying me. Its like he is trying to defend me badly on purpose. You can kill him if you want. Ninja power to you! I'll be stalking the scribe tonight. I'm working on my writing skills. If you don't know what I mean then you might have missed it in the story I wrote.

Well from all the eyes and "art" I made the assumption that you are the watcher, not crazy about lying to someone about your role. What are you going to do when he asks what his role is? He is new so I have no idea about him. He does act a little towny, but I really go by cold hard facts. Ive never made any huge mistakes playing my way.

Would you like me to prepare a death post or something if he is? If they have a roleblocker, I wouldnt put that out of the question. But that means we can narrow it down to him, you and myself as mafia if you do get RB'd or sniped tonight IMO. But then again, I think scum would RB you anyway to be safe if they have it.

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I've chosen to tell the truth to you.

I'm leading LSB astray, hinting that I'm a DT and am checking him tonight. That is, if he reads into my paintings too much..

Did you notice anything odd about one of the paintings?

It wouldnt hurt, plus the real watcher will know that you are a blue. As long as he isnt stupid, your role is safe with him.

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I've never followed a plan offered by someone in the game of mafia.. Should I start now?

lol beats me man, there are so many roles, Id hope the vig would save his hit and I think scum only has 3kp?

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I think about 5 people are going to die tonight.. I wonder if I'm going to get a bus ride...

Ive talked with LSB Chez, and I no longer feel comfortable having these conversations with you.

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I think the bus driver moved me..

On August 09 2010 12:03 zeks wrote:
wtf is going on in pm land

urge to vote for the "scribe"

On August 09 2010 12:08 Chezinu wrote:

Ok, let's have the conversation in public. I visited the scribe last night and saw nothing, yet the scribe claims to have visited someone last night.

On August 09 2010 12:26 DarthThienAn wrote:
I have an idea.

My suggestion is that we coordinate better if we know what units we have on the field. The mafia will be forced to lie, and if we coordinate early enough there is no way we can lose all of our good pieces. Every game where I've seen people nameclaim or roleclaim I've seen the town win as far as I can remember. Do you guys want to win? I am very competitive. I know I like to. I will risk my life for you guys. Feel free to claim to me. If everyone would just trust me this one time, we could have an epic game.


Basically, I'm waiting to hear about more of what went down Night 1. >>.

On August 09 2010 14:43 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:

So perhaps we can lynch you to confirm this?

On August 09 2010 15:17 ~OpZ~ wrote:

If a tracker speaks up, then we would all need to PM Xelin. Basically, tracker, whoever you tracked if they visited ANYONE and the person visited didn't die, you got us a confirmed townie. If they didn't visit anyone, you shouldn't pm them. GF, Ninja....Lil scary world out there.

But, Tracker, if you visited Xelin, and Xelin visited someone. And given the watcher watched Xelin....We should have one hell of a town circle. VARY NICE?!

So once Tracker posts that he followed Xelin...Should we mass claim to Xelin? We dont have the number of roles, BUT we can assume by balance....

On August 10 2010 01:34 youngminii wrote:
^ I'm all for that plan but I don't understand why you're jumping on the bandwagon. There hasn't been any substantial evidence against me, all that's been said is that "I've been playing differently". I don't even, what kind of argument is that. I can't even comprehend how I got 3 or 4 votes on me, that's just dumb.

Just watch when foolishness flips GF it'll all be fine. I suppose defending love1another doesn't buy me any townie points does it. Not that any of you can remember, since apparently I haven't posted anything.

On August 10 2010 02:04 tree.hugger wrote:

If we waited for people to be 100% confirmed every game, we'd never get anything done.

On August 10 2010 11:35 SouthRawrea wrote:
Whoa, if you're mafia they must be applauding you lol. Regardless this was a very good read. I still maintain my opinion of voting for you as my main reasons were not concerning your behaviour but just that I find it's more likely that you're a role other than veteran. The two of which that are the most likely are/can be harmful to the town. Your points are quite valid however. Even if you end up flipping red later, I'll definitely take your posts into consideration. One problem I do recognize however is that it does seem to me that you're really trying to squeeze information out of actions that aren't very defining of the conclusions you've come to. Nevertheless thank you very much for investing your time into these posts. I do agree that Youngminii should step it up a notch though. (This is explainable by a few things though. Sometimes you can just get really tired of doing it. Like I was playing runling run yesterday and I really wasn't feeling it. I quit after one game O.o. I usually love that game.)

On August 11 2010 07:47 Bill Murray wrote:
if pandain is red, tree.hugger is voting artanis[xp] with him, and is likely red too

On August 11 2010 11:24 tree.hugger wrote:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

I get back, and some garbage wagon on Pandain is what comes up? I thought I was reading a different game. This sets a new record for shoddy town play.

If Pandain were ninja, stands to reason he'd act like mafia, in spreading some deception around. But would mafia claim ninja? That's the dumbest strategy I've ever heard. Because mafia would obviously put a huge target on their backs by claiming a third party elimination role. Who's logic was that?

We had a vote between two solidly opposed camps. We had ample evidence to lynch youngminii. The mafia had likely all stacked on BM, because that was the only way to save him. At any rate, we have an excellent opportunity to get a kickass role list of innocent or mafia names.

INSTEAD XeliN waltzes in and provides enough "evidence" to start a third party bandwagon that provides the world's most convenient outlet for the mafia. This literally ranks as one of the worst town-plays of all time.

And to answer your question in pm's, XeliN, there's no way in hell I'm telling you anything. Your town circle seems to have a hole the size of the titanic, and with the slick move you just pulled off there, I think I'd rather go along with the people I currently trust, and not add a whole host of people who can't keep their mouths shut, and who would rather help the mafia then kill them.

Worst town move I think I've ever seen. Good grief.

On August 11 2010 12:12 Amber[LighT] wrote:


whoops someone didn't read the end of day post.

On August 12 2010 09:19 Roffles wrote:

Yes, I'm scum. Now come and lynch me. Damn, you're so good.

On August 12 2010 12:05 Roffles wrote:

You're pretty good, ya know?

Toodles

On August 12 2010 12:19 VayeshMoru wrote:


How about you tell the town who the mafia hit yo?

Yes

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I need to clarify are you actually Vanilla Town or did you simply claim that to chezinu?

On August 14 2010 01:25 rastaban wrote:
Grrr after re-reading the first part a couple times I may have misinterpreted it. It could possibly mean that he prefers randomly picking which inactive to lynch in the first one and the second one he means he doesn't like randomly picking from everyone day one. Still it seems pretty questionable but I may have overreached since I thought it was a blatant scum lie immediately. I would still like to here from you Bumatlarge on all these points.