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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 23 2010 05:18 GMT
#21
penalty example?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 23 2010 06:10 GMT
#22
/in
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 23 2010 08:00 GMT
#23
Also, what about strategic penalty death via modkill? i know you're saying "no strategic modkills", but with a setup like this, I could be like "well, i didn't know!" when i'm like a mad hatter and penalty death on purpose. Furthermore, without this reflecting on the ban list (which it shouldn't, as this is a weird way to be modkilled), what repercussions would someone have for strategically being penalty killed? you say they won't be banned for it, so I had to ask.

In conclusion, I feel like when someone gets 3 penalties they shouldnt be modkilled. You should punish them in another way, like taking away their votes for 1 day on the first time they've done it, and like 3 days subsequently similar to the ban system. This wouldn't really fix the issue I have with hatters being able to essentially kill theirselves. If you're not including hatters, or if blue roles don't have penalties, though, I have no real qualms.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 01:15:31
July 23 2010 15:16 GMT
#24
It's pretty simple. Let me just quickly cook something up.
[Gossiper Townie]

You are Townie, and you have no special night abilities. However you have extreme desire to gossip away everything you know, and the presence of PR visiting you is so very exciting that you know it is a tale you must tell. If any blue role visits you during the night, at the following day post mod will state that "[player] has visited Gossiper Townie.

(Actually this is terrible example since I can see various ways this ability could be used to get ridiculous amount of clears, but you get the gist.)


There may also be several well-established anti-town or weakened roles like: Beloved Princess, (Unaware) Insane/Paranoid/Naive Doctor, and Miller.

In case of where the strategic penalty death via modkill occurs, I will give Mafia one additional KP per one deliberate modkill following night. That can actually be huge blow to the town. I don't expect truly unintentional penalty modkill to occur since all the penalties are fairly hard to unintentionally break.

Also the problem with taking vote away argument is, let's say there is Mafia who says inability to do A is his penalty and Townie saying inability to B is his penalty. So town says "hey guys, break you penalties! If mod do something bad to you we know you are being genuine" followed up by "B lost his vote but A did not! A is confirmed lying scum gogogo". Thus, punishment lesser than mod-kill can make penalty breaking a excellent way to get clears. But if B ends up being killed, and mafia get one additional KP because of it, though the town has sure lynch the next day, such tactic no longer becomes beneficial to the town.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
July 23 2010 16:16 GMT
#25
/in seems interesting
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 23 2010 16:27 GMT
#26
Hesmyrr, is this balanced already?
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
July 23 2010 18:16 GMT
#27
Cant
not
play
hrrrrghhhh

/in

*pant pant pant*
Together but separate, like oatmeal
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 23 2010 20:27 GMT
#28
##in
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 23 2010 20:30 GMT
#29
On July 24 2010 05:27 rastaban wrote:
##in


forgot to bold o.O
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 21:04:42
July 23 2010 21:03 GMT
#30
On July 24 2010 01:27 flamewheel wrote:
Hesmyrr, is this balanced already?

Assuming random lynch and PR action the setup doesn't seem to be completely unbalanced, but I changed some of the roles after I run the test sample games. If you want to you could if you recommend someone who could quickly look it overI will be pretty happy to hear so.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 23 2010 21:22 GMT
#31
On July 23 2010 09:58 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 06:18 BrownBear wrote:
/out for this one, sorry. I want to watch a couple, see what it looks like from the flamewheel perspecitve

We may giggle and eat popcorn together.


Can I too!?
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
July 23 2010 23:56 GMT
#32
On July 24 2010 06:22 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 09:58 flamewheel wrote:
On July 23 2010 06:18 BrownBear wrote:
/out for this one, sorry. I want to watch a couple, see what it looks like from the flamewheel perspecitve

We may giggle and eat popcorn together.


Can I too!?



There's more than enough popcorn for all of us!!!
SUNSFANNED
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 24 2010 00:05 GMT
#33
On July 24 2010 06:03 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 01:27 flamewheel wrote:
Hesmyrr, is this balanced already?

Assuming random lynch and PR action the setup doesn't seem to be completely unbalanced, but I changed some of the roles after I run the test sample games. If you want to you could if you recommend someone who could quickly look it overI will be pretty happy to hear so.

I can recommend myself
Or Qatol, Incognito, Ver; basically hosts who aren't playing.

^_^v
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 16:30:20
July 24 2010 16:29 GMT
#34
On July 24 2010 09:05 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 06:03 Hesmyrr wrote:
On July 24 2010 01:27 flamewheel wrote:
Hesmyrr, is this balanced already?

Assuming random lynch and PR action the setup doesn't seem to be completely unbalanced, but I changed some of the roles after I run the test sample games. If you want to you could if you recommend someone who could quickly look it overI will be pretty happy to hear so.

I can recommend myself
Or Qatol, Incognito, Ver; basically hosts who aren't playing.

^_^v

Done :D I actually made two town roles weaker AFTER I ran the balance checkup, so now I am growing slightly concerned that the setup is now somewhat mafia-sided...
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 24 2010 16:52 GMT
#35
Hehe even if this game is unbalanced it's still going to be amazingly funny. Can't wait to see the penalties in store.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 24 2010 22:02 GMT
#36
Sent you back my recommendations, Hesmyrr. PM me for contact information if you want anything else~
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
July 25 2010 00:00 GMT
#37
I think I want in on this.
Cheese is good for you!
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 25 2010 14:49 GMT
#38
On July 25 2010 09:00 Scamp wrote:
I think I want in on this.

I am going to assume this is "/in" ~.~
Will send reply to you soon Flamewheel
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 26 2010 10:31 GMT
#39
/in
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 27 2010 00:01 GMT
#40
/in

if there's still space!
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