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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 11 2011 16:56 GMT
#301
After my first game as scum, wherein i made noobscum mistakes and got lynched day one, I dream of having Kenpachi's "lurk and be unhelpful all the time" meta.

Game would be so much easier, until vigis smarten up and actually start shooting lurkers.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 16:59:29
August 11 2011 16:58 GMT
#302
Bartundar
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 11 2011 17:19 GMT
#303
On August 12 2011 01:56 Varpulis wrote:
After my first game as scum, wherein i made noobscum mistakes and got lynched day one, I dream of having Kenpachi's "lurk and be unhelpful all the time" meta.

Game would be so much easier, until vigis smarten up and actually start shooting lurkers.


The thing is, they don't care. They're just going to do the exact same thing next game.

Some people on TL seem to play each game only to further their Mafia meta. They sign up for games, see they got Vanilla Townie or something, and do nothing for the rest of the game but make stupid one sentence posts so they don't get modkilled. Then when they finally do roll Mafia, they can continue with their "do nothing" play but aren't actually hurting their team by doing so.

I shot one as a Compulsive Vig but it didn't stop the exact same behavior in the very next game. I don't understand why people sign up for games just so they can not play in them. Who cares if you're bad (Ace does!) but at least take the time to post something more than one line fluff designed to avoid modkills. Or don't sign up at all if you're only going to play if you get a powerful blue or Mafia.
wat
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 11 2011 17:58 GMT
#304
Some people on TL seem to play each game only to further their Mafia meta. They sign up for games, see they got Vanilla Townie or something, and do nothing for the rest of the game but make stupid one sentence posts so they don't get modkilled. Then when they finally do roll Mafia, they can continue with their "do nothing" play but aren't actually hurting their team by doing so.

Did someone actually state they are deliberately crafting their meta? Otherwise it sounds to me like case of giving too much credit.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4440 Posts
August 11 2011 19:23 GMT
#305
Give me a gun more often, I'll shoot lurkers!
Sucker for nostalgia
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
August 11 2011 21:27 GMT
#306
On August 12 2011 02:58 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
Some people on TL seem to play each game only to further their Mafia meta. They sign up for games, see they got Vanilla Townie or something, and do nothing for the rest of the game but make stupid one sentence posts so they don't get modkilled. Then when they finally do roll Mafia, they can continue with their "do nothing" play but aren't actually hurting their team by doing so.

Did someone actually state they are deliberately crafting their meta? Otherwise it sounds to me like case of giving too much credit.

I always talk about crafting Meta.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 11 2011 21:48 GMT
#307
On August 12 2011 06:27 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 02:58 Hesmyrr wrote:
Some people on TL seem to play each game only to further their Mafia meta. They sign up for games, see they got Vanilla Townie or something, and do nothing for the rest of the game but make stupid one sentence posts so they don't get modkilled. Then when they finally do roll Mafia, they can continue with their "do nothing" play but aren't actually hurting their team by doing so.

Did someone actually state they are deliberately crafting their meta? Otherwise it sounds to me like case of giving too much credit.

I always talk about crafting Meta.

Yeah, but my head will blow if anyone starts arguing flamewheel = no-posting lurker.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
August 11 2011 22:05 GMT
#308
On August 12 2011 06:48 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 06:27 flamewheel wrote:
On August 12 2011 02:58 Hesmyrr wrote:
Some people on TL seem to play each game only to further their Mafia meta. They sign up for games, see they got Vanilla Townie or something, and do nothing for the rest of the game but make stupid one sentence posts so they don't get modkilled. Then when they finally do roll Mafia, they can continue with their "do nothing" play but aren't actually hurting their team by doing so.

Did someone actually state they are deliberately crafting their meta? Otherwise it sounds to me like case of giving too much credit.

I always talk about crafting Meta.

Yeah, but my head will blow if anyone starts arguing flamewheel = no-posting lurker.

I actively lurked for about 9 hours a day in TL Mafia XXVIII.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 11 2011 22:28 GMT
#309
On August 12 2011 07:05 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 06:48 Hesmyrr wrote:
On August 12 2011 06:27 flamewheel wrote:
On August 12 2011 02:58 Hesmyrr wrote:
Some people on TL seem to play each game only to further their Mafia meta. They sign up for games, see they got Vanilla Townie or something, and do nothing for the rest of the game but make stupid one sentence posts so they don't get modkilled. Then when they finally do roll Mafia, they can continue with their "do nothing" play but aren't actually hurting their team by doing so.

Did someone actually state they are deliberately crafting their meta? Otherwise it sounds to me like case of giving too much credit.

I always talk about crafting Meta.

Yeah, but my head will blow if anyone starts arguing flamewheel = no-posting lurker.

I actively lurked for about 9 hours a day in TL Mafia XXVIII.

CURSE YOUUUU
gg
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
August 13 2011 05:46 GMT
#310
GMARSHAL, WE NEED TO HAVE A PONY BASED INTERVENTION.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 07:45:46
August 13 2011 05:52 GMT
#311
On August 13 2011 14:46 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
GMARSHAL, WE NEED TO HAVE A PONY BASED INTERVENTION.

You, can take my car, my booze, my women and even my life, but you will NEVER take my PONIES!

Also, WTF? You know destiny?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 13 2011 06:16 GMT
#312
I'm kind've late, but I'd play a pure vanilla game.
you gotta dance
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
August 14 2011 15:05 GMT
#313
my mafia 2k blog thing: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=254735
Computer says mafia
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
August 15 2011 07:47 GMT
#314
On August 15 2011 00:05 Palmar wrote:
my mafia 2k blog thing: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=254735

<3
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 16 2011 00:20 GMT
#315
VER PLAYING ON IGN PROLEAUGE TEAM ARENA VS TEAM REIGN!

GOGOGGO
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/IGNProLeague
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 16 2011 00:55 GMT
#316
:O
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 16 2011 00:56 GMT
#317
oh he lost T.T
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
August 16 2011 12:46 GMT
#318
Warning: Rant

+ Show Spoiler +
So, reading up on Zorkmid's thing made me remember how fucking madI get at people who cry about bad towns or themselves being tunneled are. Like, really, there is no one responsible but you. If the town is not agreeing with your logic, even if you're right, it's not because they are bad, it's because you are not doing a good enough job convincing them.

If you are being tunneled, it's not because whoever is tunneling is bad, it's because you haven't clearly enough established your innocence. I don't care how bad the reasons for tunneling you are, if you get lynched, you're the problem, not the people who got you lynched. If someone got you lynched with terrible reasoning or on policy, good job them! Sure they may be town too, and thus be detrimental, but if you are town, you must be able to deflect that shit. Let that sink in for a moment. Someone came up with TERRIBLE reasons, and yet he still managed to get you lynched. How bad does that make you?

Getting lynched in a mafia game is always your own fault, there is nothing else that can make you get lynched than you failing. Even when the odds are stacked against you (you're red, and a dt has a check on you), the responsibility is yours to make sure they hang some other bastard.

If you think there exists something called "bad town" you're part of the problem. Part of your responsibility is to find out what kind of logic appeals to the town you're trying to convince. You'd not use the same methods to explain something to a bunch of kids, and to a board of executives. It's your responsibility to tailor-make the arguments to fit the people you're trying to convince.

If person a) says "LOL, YOU MAFIA" and you say "No, here's a detailed analysis of why you must be scum", yet the town lynches you anyway, it's YOUR fault. You did not recognize what arguments would work with the town you're playing with.

It's never someone else's fault.
There is no such thing as bad towns.

The only answer to the question "Why did we lose?" is "Because I am terrible and must improve".
Computer says mafia
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 18 2011 02:29 GMT
#319
dammit mafia, why must you suck me back in...

also nice rant palmar. To be fair, sometimes it is just bad town being bad. In most cases, tho, you're right.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
August 18 2011 02:34 GMT
#320
Palmar, I completely disagree, yes there are cases where its people just sucking, but sometimes bad logic just works out, and its *still* bad play, even if you win. Its like wining a GSL with 7000 minerals and 5000 gas in the bank and 60/200, a win is a win, and you obviously did better than your opponent, it still doesn't mean you played well.
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