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BloodyC0bbler
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On July 26 2010 14:34 Bill Murray wrote: no, i would not modkill during that time, and the day would technically be in twilight until people either voted for or against double lynch (in that scenario) Not really questioning alot but seriously dude, can you stop changing rules while game is underway? | ||
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On July 26 2010 13:25 Pandain wrote: Other guy told me cause we trusted each other. We were cautious of telling young, since he has/had been acting weird. We were afraid he might be GF faking as townie. So I came up with an idea. I would pretend to be dt, fake claim to youngmini. If i died during the night, Subversion could tell with good certainty that young was gf, and he could bust him. so, your expecting me to believe that someone who fake claim dt, and outed his checks, then claimed dt mouth and admitted to knowing who the dt was, are claiming that you aren't the reason he died? Sounds like your a total fuckup kid. | ||
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On July 26 2010 14:45 Divinek wrote: i agree some of it is funny, and alot of it has to be bullshit (i cant imagine you trying to rc two different people as two different roles??) however citizen is confirmed in his honesty, and he said he had another cleared person to speak for his dt, and only one person has stepped up to that role and no one has called bullshit on him so why would zeks be no good? (maybe his dt isnt a dt and he's a red working with zeks?) though i think i understand what you were getting at with the two roles thing he has claimed mh, but mentioned him 'checking' someone? and representing a dt that is a reasonable way of thinking, other than that yeah and to be fair it does look bad that you pushed so hard for him to die, but you werent really in danger yourself so...not that bad, and if rhasta was your team mate and was in that much danger it'd seem silly for you to stick your neck out so far to push the wagon the other way when you know he's gonna die next, most likely i am interested in your candidates better than yourself! I would lynch obvious liars. Pandain/south/rasta. As said in previous games, so on and so forth I said it the day before I stand by it. I have roleclaimed to no one this game, period. I would also ask you this Divinek. You pm'd me near the beginning of the last day and asked me about the missing hit, and wanted to know if I was med or Vet. If i was in the habit of fake claiming blues to multiple people, would it not be reasonable to assume I would have to you as well? For those who think I went after citizen too aggressively, please see this game by flamewheel. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119497 I was miller that game and although ace was a legit DT, based on who his check flipped red, I argued tooth and nail against his plan. If I see something I feel very strongly against, I will fight it to the core of my being, its who I am. To the point that eventually emotions will cloud thought, but the basis in which I argue is always off a center piece of logic. See the others that were arguing more logically and less emotionally as I was this past day. The amount of claiming, counter claiming, fake claiming, random accusation throwing, etc... that has gone on this game, and be allowed is just flabergasting. Whats more frightening, is town is barely talking about those people, and instead pointing at one person who was analyzed as red, fake claimed, then proceeded to throw another player under the bus as well as someone who argued tooth and nail against a plan that had faults, against a player who lied to the town. Take that as you will. But you all need to look around you before jumping your vote gun. | ||
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On July 26 2010 14:51 SiNiquity wrote: Also BC, while you're here. Do you deny PMing Rasta and South? You probably only have minutes left at this rate. That I do. I could name you the players I have pm'd and they would most likely confirm that they have had some form of messages with me. | ||
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On July 26 2010 15:08 SiNiquity wrote: Finally, something to go off of. Thanks. If you're by some miracle innocent then they'll make great lynch targets tomorrow with double-lynch. Your death, in either case, will not be in vain. See you on the flipside. ## Unvote SouthRawrea I hope town takes note on your stance of saving all liars. It shall prove enlightening for them. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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On July 26 2010 15:23 Pandain wrote: Just to clear it up, I did NOT lie to town. I lied only to Youngmini because we were going to let him into the circle but had to be sure he wasn't GF(since he had checked green.). I did NOT lie to the town or jeopardize it, until Youngmini reaveled it, probably with good intentions :/. It was ???,Subversion, and I's secret expirement. If I still lived, than youngmini wasn't GF and we would let him in our group. That's the extent of my lie, to youngmini for one day. The pms with Subversion I posted verify this. EXCEPT, you sent a fake dt mouth to citizen, then went to him yourself and claimed dt mouth. This is a entire wrench potentially tossed into citizen's plan (as shoddy as I think it is). As town that is such a bad call. Thats creating a situation to break someones entire plan/wasting checks etc... You knowingly made yourself a third dt/voice claimant. | ||
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On July 26 2010 15:30 Pandain wrote: Hehe forgot. But again, we had a plan for this.(plans! Plans!). I didn't go to him myself. Youngmini did. So basically, I was going to get into contact with the other DT, and than relay the info to Subversion, probably telling him who the REAL dt was. Since Youngmini wanted to pm citizen, I couldn't just say no. So.... I told him to. Than citizen finds out. Now HE knows I'm the real dt rep. So I was basically going to replace youngmini in that regards. You're actually right though, if I had let youngmini tell citizen i was dt, it could've wasted checks. My mistake. I guess I had to think fast so I couldn't really make a thorough decision. Yay citizen for catching my word slip! yayyyy wait, you were openly trying to milk the dt name from citizen who you believed was legit (or at least legit enough to claim too), then after your called out for lying your dt dies? Dude what the hell. | ||
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On July 26 2010 15:35 BrownBear wrote: Guys, why are you even bothering arguing with BC. He's mafia. He's just trying to cause as much ruckus as possible before he gets lynched and has to shut up. Just ignore him and the problem will resolve itself. In a very short, terminal fashion. I find it more amusing you think im dumb enough to multiclaim to people. I'm smart enough to know I'd be outted for something like that. But then again, with half the crap going on this game, the low level of thinking doesn't surprise me. | ||
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On July 26 2010 15:41 BrownBear wrote: I know you deny that South was mouthpiece and that you are MH. I'm lynching you for trying so goddamn hard to get citi.zen lynched yesterday instead of South. You fuck with town, town fucks with you. If you really aren't red, I'm sorry, but your play has been too scummy for me, and I trust Pandain a hell of a lot more than I trust you. Thus, I'm voting for you, and if there's gonna be someone to change my mind it sure as hell isn't going to be you. Rofl. Dude I criticized a plan with holes. Hey look, tree.hugger, chaoser, and infundi did as well but your not going for them. Your also ignoring obvious liars. Hell. I would even except that after the full day if people want me offed, then sure. Instead we have people such as yourself saying everyone should ignore my ruckus, and instead just majority lynch me as fast as possible. If that isnt a scum move what is? Your moving to deny someone a chance to save their-self. Hell, so far my talking today has been so confusing. In fact so confusing that it makes sense? Why would you be trying to stop the flow of any form of discussion, rash lynches and no talking benefits mafia, not town. | ||
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On July 26 2010 15:43 BrownBear wrote: 1) BC decided my roleclaiming plan was idiotic, despite the fact that it benefits town. 2) BC decided instead of going for South (who was 99% confirmed mafia) we should go for citi.zen. You see how that turned out. 3) BC hasn't really been sparking town discussion, he's been flaming people, calling every plan stupid, deriding every player as playing poorly, etc. This is very scummy, as he is intentionally trying to break down town unity rather than build it. 4) BC has been on the wrong side of every vote so far. You want more? I've got more. Your roleclaim plan was flamed by more than me, don't try to finger me on that. South was analyzed and pulled out by me? then I went for a person who turned out to be lying and whos plan lost tons of credibilty for it. Surprise, surprise, I was wrong about his alignment, but correct on his plan being riddled with issues. Sparking town discussion? I have been doing so since I got back from work, hell, i started the discussion on citizen's plan that till then everyone was like "YEA LETS AUTO TRUST 100%" and the guy was lying. As for wrong side of vote so far? Citizen flipped liar. Amberlight has not flipped period, nor has pandain, and look pandain has turned out to be a liar as well. Dude, if you want to analyze and finger me to death, care to well not blatantly lie? | ||
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Divinek, Tree.hugger, Infundibulum in that order. I will also note that they pm'd me first. Aside from those three I have actually not pm'd anyone at all this game. Even to respond to really annoying messages. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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On July 26 2010 15:54 BrownBear wrote: You need to calm down and stop lying. citi.zen did not flip liar, he flipped mouthpiece. HUGE difference. Mouthpiece does NOT equal liar. Mouthpiece is a legit strategy designed to protect blue roles. Stop calling it a lying strategy. My roleclaim plan was flamed by more than you, but you were the most vocal from my perspective. You also have personally attacked me many times, which I don't like. Stop doing that. And regarding citi.zen's plan? That was a legit plan he had with zeks. Both are confirmed town. Your "sparking town discussion" fucked that up. If that's not red play, I don't know what is. See, at this point, you'd really better hope you flip red. If you flip red, I'll accept all of your play as good mafia play. If you don't I really will just have no respect for you as a player anymore, because your town play this game has been absolutely atrocious. No, he blatently lied about being hatter. He refused to even address criticism to his plan, and tried his best to not have discussion. Him lying about his role means he flipped as a liar. His townie role means dick as it didn't instant prove SR was red, it means someone in his group had to be verified instead. Someone lying about role, refusing to talk about his plan in detail, refusing to answer criticism is actually the key features of someone playing anti town. If it was perfect he would have addressed these points. Also with a legit dt actually dead, and zeks still alive with a "claimed dt circle" of a liar, He's not confirmed. HE is likely legit, but not confirmed. I don't get where you find these random reasons to confirm people without real evidence to do so. I'm sorry you didn't see the problems with it, I am sorry that you believe that citizen was incapable of being lied to, I am sorry that you trust things in mafia so black and white when the game is shades of grey. | ||
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On July 26 2010 15:58 ~OpZ~ wrote: Details of citizens plan became apparent on his death. Do you not understand that? Their were reasons he lied. But you're right. We should lynch zeks anyway JUST BECAUSE he has a bomb on you/south kill 4 people (lynch zeks/someone else, BC/South/someone else if bomb moves), 3 mafia or, 2 mafia and 1 possible mafia, and lose a hatter that's used both bombs.... IF town was so sure of my guilt, they would be lynching zeks to do a few things. Prove his alignment, prove mine, prove southrawrs. INSTEAD he has said On July 26 2010 11:18 zeks wrote: ##vote double lynch ##vote BloodyC0bbler ##vote SouthRawrea don't worry about me wasting bombs i had that covered long ago which means he has no bombs on me or SR. IE they could be anywhere. The soul means of proof he had to 100% clear his dt, clear himself, get info from me and SR is now moot. Effectively saving himself from having to prove his own identity. Do I think he is likely real based on SR/Rasta trying to off me? Yes, but he moved his bombs regardless, so him dying now becomes potentially harmful to the town depending on where those bombs went. | ||
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On July 26 2010 15:59 BrownBear wrote: I am getting out of the thread now, because I'm worried I'm becoming too emotionally invested in it. I'm going to cool off for tonight, read it tomorrow, and make sure I'm voting for the right reasons, not the emotional/wrong ones. That's the best you're getting, BC. Whatever decision I make tomorrow, I'm making it because I believe it's the best decision for the town. So don't bitch about it when it happens. Thats all I'm asking for dude. | ||
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On July 26 2010 15:42 ~OpZ~ wrote: ....You guys talk a lot...I was going to vote you BC, and I promised to long before this bandwagon began....And I've done it already once this game....But it's far to early for the day to end, so I would like some suspects and analysis. You can do some on me if you'd like, I'm pretty thoroughly scummy looking. But the point is, I would like something to analyze after you die. Remember sir, death brings knowledge and truth. So please, at least help us out with that. Uncooperative actions now will just further your scum appearance, and whats more important, you living, or the town winning. Besides, you might sway enough votes. Dude, its currently 12:12 am, and i work in the morning. Yes I can do analysis (hell I gave some the day before that got ignored and somehow turned against me). However, to get said analysis requires giving me time to actually make one. At the moment I seem to be playing the game of keeping votes off my body to end day. | ||
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On July 26 2010 16:11 Pandain wrote: I think (well) The reason I believe zeks is because he was foretold by Citizen. Since citizen is townie, than zeks is truly a mad hatter. Either that or GF and tricked Citizen/dt, but then we're screwed anyway so doesn't matter. or dt + zeks is red. I am saying it is highly unlikely. The problem reamains he isnt confirmed, hell he even moved his bombs away from people town agreed on as red, to move them on questionable targets. In a sense hes pushing a stance of lynch others to prove me. There is sketchyness to his play, but since I know southrawr is lying, I actually moderately trust him now. He hasn't been confirmed based on citizen, but by terrible scum play by south. | ||
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On July 28 2010 10:19 Divinek wrote: his lack of posting since being for sure lynched makes me think red eeeeeeeeeeeee but we shall see Actually I read the thread yesterday morning saw I had hit majority along with SR and assumed day had finished when I got home from work last night. I love how rules change so instantly without warning ffs. | ||
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On July 28 2010 14:13 Divinek wrote: also i apologize SINCE we were right in calling people fucking idiots or something for majority lynching bc/sub so fast, but i still think it was silly and we might have milked something out of sub atleast but i guess if we let them live too long bc might have convinced us to vote away from him sooo yeah happy days lalala haha, dude, you actually gained alot. BM said majority lynch, I hit majority like 36 hours before post went up. Soon as I saw i hit majority I stopped checking here. Rule revisions/ignorings rock from hosts. Regardless, GG also thanks for not being retarded over this last day. Once game is over, I will have a semi large writeup to share with you all weeee. | ||
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On July 28 2010 14:19 BrownBear wrote: GG man, sorry for kinda losing my temper at you last night  haha dude its cool. I'm impressed I managed to stall you. I think with a bit of work I could have changed your mind but hey, I should have realized BM would rule change on me. | ||
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