On July 22 2010 10:31 Divinek wrote: im totally game for saving darth's ass though if it comes down to it just because he's been sending me sexual messages via pm
but ill only vote for sub if it's necessary because i see him as more useful for us to lynch than darth at this point(info etc), since i think it's reasonable for either of them to be red it's all about convincing then and sub has convinced me to be more red than darth so far
even if darth is being a silly billy, i have faith he'll help us the next day or die
so is darth on the block if it's a tie right now or what?
I just wanna say this is really weird. Why doesn't he just switch?
On July 22 2010 10:58 Subversion wrote: DTA, if I'm honest, I don't like any of this voting.
If I had to bet money on it, I'd say not one of the 3 major candidates is mafia, including you.
But you're good at this game, and you may just be fooling me. If I'm truthful, I wish we could all change to another target. But that's not going to happen.
Since I KNOW I'm not mafia and am useful to town, and thats all I really can know 100%, I think you're a better choice.
I thought the post on you was a good one, although your defense has since led me to believe that you're probably town. The reference to your past character is not from my knowledge, this is my 1st game, but its from that post.
Bottom line is, no I don't think you're mafia. But I don't know that for sure, and thus I know you're a better lynch than me, since I'm a really bad person to lynch.
yes, WE SHOULD VOTE FUCKING AMBER, if any of you dudes would be man enough to switch.
this is of course going to be hard to do cuz 3 of the votes are people trying to save their lives, but it'd only take all of them moving plus what 1 or 2 more?
if you really do want to hit a red vote amber, but between the 3 right now i am so unsure
On July 22 2010 10:31 Divinek wrote: im totally game for saving darth's ass though if it comes down to it just because he's been sending me sexual messages via pm
but ill only vote for sub if it's necessary because i see him as more useful for us to lynch than darth at this point(info etc), since i think it's reasonable for either of them to be red it's all about convincing then and sub has convinced me to be more red than darth so far
even if darth is being a silly billy, i have faith he'll help us the next day or die
so is darth on the block if it's a tie right now or what?
I just wanna say this is really weird. Why doesn't he just switch?
i only want to do it if it's necessary, i really want to lynch amber
WIFOM = Wine In Front Of Me. It refers to circular logic and a terrible way to think in a mafia game.
The term stems from this scenario:
A princess(?) is given two glasses of wine. One of the glasses is filled with poison and the other is not. She is forced to drink one. "I should drink the Wine In Front Of Me because it's closer to me. Wait, maybe the guy knew that and so he put the poison in the Wine In Front Of Me, so I'll drink the other glass. But what if he knew I'd think like that? Then maybe I should......"
Continued from last post: And he didn't go on to do it. Even though I think Darth was on the block at the time. He still hasn't changed to anything (not sure where is vote is right now either). I imagine mafia would discuss this in PMs and would probably just PM BM to find out if Darth was on the block, so it doesn't seem scummy but it's really weird.
On July 22 2010 10:07 DarthThienAn wrote: Opz, you should vote for Subversion.
You know that post of Tree.Hugger's you linked on page 54 (the one where he says his reasons for saying to go for subversion...I addressed that.)
So please stop claiming to gain more from subversion. Tree.Hugger, please post all reputations on the line for Darth and Subversion. Thanks in advance (though I don't suspect it will happen, AND if by some means it does, I'm sure it will be wrong)
On July 22 2010 10:58 Subversion wrote: DTA, if I'm honest, I don't like any of this voting.
If I had to bet money on it, I'd say not one of the 3 major candidates is mafia, including you.
But you're good at this game, and you may just be fooling me. If I'm truthful, I wish we could all change to another target. But that's not going to happen.
Since I KNOW I'm not mafia and am useful to town, and thats all I really can know 100%, I think you're a better choice.
I thought the post on you was a good one, although your defense has since led me to believe that you're probably town. The reference to your past character is not from my knowledge, this is my 1st game, but its from that post.
Bottom line is, no I don't think you're mafia. But I don't know that for sure, and thus I know you're a better lynch than me, since I'm a really bad person to lynch.
If you're blue, that is great reasoning. If you're red, that is great reasoning. If you're green, well, we should be lynching you anyway.
Pyrr's post about me? lol. I already addressed that. He hasn't responded with any problems about it, except that I didn't do it sooner, which can't be helped.
"Bottom line is, no I don't think you're mafia. But I don't know that for sure, and thus I know you're a better lynch than me, since I'm a really bad person to lynch."
On July 22 2010 10:58 Subversion wrote: DTA, if I'm honest, I don't like any of this voting.
If I had to bet money on it, I'd say not one of the 3 major candidates is mafia, including you.
But you're good at this game, and you may just be fooling me. If I'm truthful, I wish we could all change to another target. But that's not going to happen.
Since I KNOW I'm not mafia and am useful to town, and thats all I really can know 100%, I think you're a better choice.
I thought the post on you was a good one, although your defense has since led me to believe that you're probably town. The reference to your past character is not from my knowledge, this is my 1st game, but its from that post.
Bottom line is, no I don't think you're mafia. But I don't know that for sure, and thus I know you're a better lynch than me, since I'm a really bad person to lynch.
yes, WE SHOULD VOTE FUCKING AMBER, if any of you dudes would be man enough to switch.
this is of course going to be hard to do cuz 3 of the votes are people trying to save their lives, but it'd only take all of them moving plus what 1 or 2 more?
if you really do want to hit a red vote amber, but between the 3 right now i am so unsure
I think we should focus on amber tomorrow maybe, today seems more like a tossup between Subversion and Chaoser and DTA.
Much love BM. I just went through and tallied the votes since the start of day 2 because I was tired of all the miscounts (and wanted independent verification). Your tally is the first correct count since chaoser counted 10-15 pages back (tho Rastaban was often close).
## Unvote Abstain ## Vote Chaoser
I could be a total sucker, but I believe Subversion, and Chaoser reminded me of
pre-post-edit? Annnd apparently I walk away from computers and forget to hit post. -_-
On July 22 2010 10:07 DarthThienAn wrote: Opz, you should vote for Subversion.
You know that post of Tree.Hugger's you linked on page 54 (the one where he says his reasons for saying to go for subversion...I addressed that.)
So please stop claiming to gain more from subversion. Tree.Hugger, please post all reputations on the line for Darth and Subversion. Thanks in advance (though I don't suspect it will happen, AND if by some means it does, I'm sure it will be wrong)
So what happens if DTA and Subversion are both town, does that mean I'm like 100% confirmed townie?
On July 22 2010 10:58 Subversion wrote: DTA, if I'm honest, I don't like any of this voting.
If I had to bet money on it, I'd say not one of the 3 major candidates is mafia, including you.
But you're good at this game, and you may just be fooling me. If I'm truthful, I wish we could all change to another target. But that's not going to happen.
Since I KNOW I'm not mafia and am useful to town, and thats all I really can know 100%, I think you're a better choice.
I thought the post on you was a good one, although your defense has since led me to believe that you're probably town. The reference to your past character is not from my knowledge, this is my 1st game, but its from that post.
Bottom line is, no I don't think you're mafia. But I don't know that for sure, and thus I know you're a better lynch than me, since I'm a really bad person to lynch.
yes, WE SHOULD VOTE FUCKING AMBER, if any of you dudes would be man enough to switch.
this is of course going to be hard to do cuz 3 of the votes are people trying to save their lives, but it'd only take all of them moving plus what 1 or 2 more?
if you really do want to hit a red vote amber, but between the 3 right now i am so unsure
I think we should focus on amber tomorrow maybe, today seems more like a tossup between Subversion and Chaoser and DTA.
On July 22 2010 11:03 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Continued from last post: And he didn't go on to do it. Even though I think Darth was on the block at the time. He still hasn't changed to anything (not sure where is vote is right now either). I imagine mafia would discuss this in PMs and would probably just PM BM to find out if Darth was on the block, so it doesn't seem scummy but it's really weird.
it's more a lesser of two evils, this could easily be town on town dung flinging
On July 22 2010 11:00 Subversion wrote: Also, I don't know what wifom means
WIFOM= Wine in front of me
Not sure how to explain it but it basically is the situation where you're thinking this could be a green or a blue hiding himself as a green to not get killed or a green hiding himself as a blue hiding himself as a green to protect the blues or a blue hiding himself as a green as a blue as a green.. etc
On July 22 2010 11:03 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Continued from last post: And he didn't go on to do it. Even though I think Darth was on the block at the time. He still hasn't changed to anything (not sure where is vote is right now either). I imagine mafia would discuss this in PMs and would probably just PM BM to find out if Darth was on the block, so it doesn't seem scummy but it's really weird.
it's more a lesser of two evils, this could easily be town on town dung flinging
Well I get it now, you're hot to trot on Amber[Light]. Can someone explain the case against Amber? I'd look it up myself but we've past 50 pages now so we can't open all the pages at once anymore.
On July 22 2010 11:00 Subversion wrote: Also, I don't know what wifom means
WIFOM= Wine in front of me
Not sure how to explain it but it basically is the situation where you're thinking this could be a green or a blue hiding himself as a green to not get killed or a green hiding himself as a blue hiding himself as a green to protect the blues or a blue hiding himself as a green as a blue as a green.. etc
On July 22 2010 11:00 Subversion wrote: Also, I don't know what wifom means
WIFOM= Wine in front of me
Not sure how to explain it but it basically is the situation where you're thinking this could be a green or a blue hiding himself as a green to not get killed or a green hiding himself as a blue hiding himself as a green to protect the blues or a blue hiding himself as a green as a blue as a green.. etc
On July 22 2010 11:00 Subversion wrote: Also, I don't know what wifom means
WIFOM= Wine in front of me
Not sure how to explain it but it basically is the situation where you're thinking this could be a green or a blue hiding himself as a green to not get killed or a green hiding himself as a blue hiding himself as a green to protect the blues or a blue hiding himself as a green as a blue as a green.. etc
it's a logical circle where you can never come to a definitive conclusion.
I guess the clearest example is
well i know mr X posts alot when he's red, but maybe he knows that i know, but maybe he also knows that i know that he knows that i know etc, and you can just level yourself into infinity
EPT
