TL Mafia XXVIII - Page 4

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 23 2010 04:57 GMT

#1535

Officially, if we go by the clock, it's day now. I still want to wait for some kind of confirmation from him before really doing anything serious.

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 23 2010 04:57 GMT

#1536

ebwop: by him I meant Bill Murray

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 23 2010 05:00 GMT

#1541

Double lynch is best used only if we have 2 people we are almost positive are mafia. It's really powerful, but we can end up screwing ourselves over if we doublelynch town.

So convince me we have 2 people we're pretty sure are scum before I vote dbllynch.

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 23 2010 05:07 GMT

#1546

Hmm fair point. Alright, I'll bite. I also agree that we should have enough info by 3 real-life days from now to lynch, so

##Vote: Abstain
##Vote: Double Lynch

(the abstain will change, obviously, but just incase some disaster happens it would be nice to cover all my bases)

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 23 2010 05:54 GMT

#1587

Shitfuckbiscuits.

To say it again, just incase BM goes by day post instead of time

##Vote: Abstain
##Vote For Double Lynch

This will change, but it's bedtime for me and especially after almost missing a vote, I prefer to cover my bases in case there's a blackout/earthquake/disaster/whatever.

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 23 2010 17:59 GMT

#1703

Minor question: Does suicide bomber ability rip through both vet nightlives, or just take one out?

Also, sorry, Subversion. I was willing to forgive your "mafia aren't making too many mistakes" post as a newbie mistake, but you keep making these little scumslips. Also, if you want to defend yourself, you might want to post more than a few lines.

I'm not going to vote for you yet, but you're very suspicious right now...

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 23 2010 23:50 GMT

#1745

tree.hugger: The town shot down my roleclaim idea yesterday, I don't think enough time has passed for people to consider a roleclaim scheme now. Plus, tricode is in NO WAY 100% cleared, chaoser's logic is sound but we have no way to check that mafia actually followed sound logic, thus we cannot assume that mafia always act using solid logic (they could purposefully do something dumb, hoping town will assume they would never do something so dumb because nobody could be that dumb right guys?)

So, I'll echo:

DO NOT CLAIM TO TRICODE

yet, at least!

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 24 2010 06:43 GMT

#1836

Regardless of whether citi.zen is blue or red, he's undoubtedly the most badass player I've ever played with. First the "Kill L, give me your role PMs" thing from a previous game, now this. Awesome.

BC, I don't think you're mafia, but I think you are a bit too paranoid. I would caution we wait for the rest of the day before all running to citi.zen saying "OMG SAVE US MAD HATTER MAN!", because it's likely that half the players haven't read it yet, it happened pretty recently. So, to say this now:

DO NOT CLAIM TO CITI.ZEN FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER 12 HOURS OR SO

This is so that if citi is lying, and there is another blue KP role, we give them enough time to read the thread, read this, and counterclaim.

IF YOU ARE A TOWN KP ROLE, YOU MUST CLAIM NOW SO WE KNOW THAT EITHER CITI.ZEN OR TRICODE IS LYING

We can't discount the possibility that Tricode is the liar, not citi.zen. If Tricode is the liar, then that logically makes BC look very suspicious too, as by this point you'd think another dayvig would have claimed if there was one out there.

Either way, if there's a third claim, we know we've caught at least one or two of the mafia (hopefully we can nail the sucide bomber before he asplodes), which puts us in an alright position. Not great, because of the two mislynches, but alright.

If nobody counterclaims after an appropriate length of time (I said 12 hours, it can be more or less depending on the general feeling of the town), then we should feel reasonably safe in trusting citi, and we can decide whether to go from there. We shouldn't just blindly mass roleclaim to him (very high chance he gets whacked or SB'd tonight), but we can talk about tactics when that comes up. There's still 24 hours in the day for us to figure this stuff out, so we don't have to stress over it now.

For now, I think BC's logic on southrawrea is sound (note: I know I said that BC might be suspicious in certain circumstances, but right now, especially given the detail of his posts, I have no trouble believing he's town), so southrawrea gets my vote. It's also possible that southrawrea is a lazy townie, in which case this should be an excellent motivator.

##Vote: southrawrea

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 24 2010 17:10 GMT

#1904

On July 25 2010 01:22 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Let me iterate what I think is the most important thought in my post: if the mafia send in a false claimer to sac himself and delay the plan, the outcomes of night kills can potentially stop the plan from happening at all

They might not even need to sac someone. The SB could just blow the plan to shreds by himself.

Well, ok, I guess they technically do need to sac someone. You get the idea.

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 24 2010 17:23 GMT

#1911

It's ok to quote and build off the quote with a lot of new content. It's not okay to quote and post 2 or 3 lines not really adding much. I think what d3 is saying is that most of your posts are examples of the latter type of posting.

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 24 2010 22:22 GMT

#1998

Keeping vote on south because of the sketchy nature of his claim, and if the choice is between him and citi.zen, I definitely choose him.

Amber and tree.hugger bear watching - people have been kinda suspecting them all game, and now they're trying to prevent an overwhelming bandwagon on South...

If south flips MH, citi.zen dies. If South flips red, we can trust citi. If South flips anything else... he's an idiot.

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 24 2010 22:29 GMT

#2005

And now all of you seem to have switched off of South to citi.zen. I think we are too crazy about little things. Plus, citi.zen's absence is much much less suspicious than some of the crap South has been posting. Mainly, his decision to a) say in the thread who he placed his bombs on (really really dumb because unless bombs are on mafia, mafia will just hit him and take 2-3 townies out in one go) and b) call on citi.zen to do the same (dumn for the same reasons).

Sorry South. I don't trust you.

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 24 2010 22:48 GMT

#2028

On July 25 2010 07:40 SiNiquity wrote:
I bet Tricode and BC are cackling maniacally at their good fortune. Kill a medic, claim 3rd hit + protection (both unverifiable), draw out the other 2 KP roles. Let them kill each other. Bonus is that they're both hatters instead of vigilantes.

So much for 50/50.

You bring up a very good point here, and I think everyone should read it. It is still possible that Tricode is the liar, and there are 2 Mad Hatters in the game.

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 24 2010 23:07 GMT

#2066

Weirdly enough (well, for this game at least), I'm going to stick to my guns on this one. I think South is red, so I'm voting for South. This isn't about "lol well citi.zen gives us more info even if he is MH", this is about "I think somebody is red, and I think somebody is blue. I'm going to fucking vote for the guy who's red."

You all are so timid about picking a side. Jesus Christ.

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 24 2010 23:08 GMT

#2070

Town in this game = sheep, it's ridiculous.

Make your own fucking decisions people.

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 24 2010 23:14 GMT

#2083

On July 25 2010 08:12 rastaban wrote:
Guys I have been staying quiet but I can’t anymore. I was hoping citi.zen would prove his claim but he hasn’t and I am worried about what his plan is. He has already gotten the DT claims. Before the real and asked for us to reveal the DTs. I haven’t heard from him since the counter claim.
From Citi.zen:

+ Show Spoiler +

A third DT claim did show up. Which is good - more people are giving themselves up.

I will need the name of your Dt when you are satisfied there is no counter claim against me. My DT can then check one of the two and find the real one as well as the red.

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Original Message:
Wow, I did't expect that much to go down last night.

I think you might have just given us the break town needed to turn this around. I believe at this point if someone was going to claim they would have. The DT felt the same way so I was asked to go ahead and move forward with contacting you.

Let me know what we should do next.

Thanks,

He hasn't mentioned this in the thread, I hate putting myself out there, but if he is playing us I am sure another mouth can confirm.

Wait what? You know the identity of a DT, is that what you're saying?

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 24 2010 23:17 GMT

#2090

I am so fucking confused right now. What I see it as:

rastaban has a DT
citi.zen has a DT
youngminii has a DT

Could 2 of these be the same DT? Or have we caught a falseclaimer/the GF?

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 24 2010 23:28 GMT

#2103

On July 25 2010 08:27 rastaban wrote:

Show nested quote +

Intead he asked us to give up our DT names... I don't like it. And just like last game when he was GF he has gone completely silent when suspicion is cast on him

And you're saying this is worse than SouthRawrea saying "Hey citi if you're MH, tell us who your bombs are on" post?

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

July 24 2010 23:31 GMT

#2109

On July 25 2010 08:29 rastaban wrote:
Well last game he was caught when he tried to define his fake roleclaim.

True, but that doesn't change the fact that trying to get MH to say who they put their bombs on is a very scummy move. It's not worth possibly messing up a fakeclaimer when it's far more likely that they're legit, they say who their bombs are on, and mafia hits them to take out 2 or 3 people in one go.