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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 21 2010 21:28 GMT
#907
by does it i mean advocate lynching someone and then abstains
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 21 2010 21:46 GMT
#917
On July 22 2010 06:40 Protactinium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 06:27 chaoser wrote:
...
the last two, protactinium and zeks, don't really mention no-lynching but they both advocate lynching someone (an inactive the first day). They both abstained.

So are these guys suspicious cause they contradicted themselves as well? Bring a better argument.

Chaoser, throwing blame around isn't the best way to make your case, especially if you are so blatantly wrong. I was subbed into this game and did not have time to finish reading the thread, as stated. If you are going to make false accusations, at least try to back them up.

Furthermore, you realize that unless everybody abstains, somebody is bound to be lynched. There is no majority system here.


1) I didn't throw blame around, I don't even think there is blame to begin with seeing as how I don't think my argument for "let's not do a no-lynch" and my choice of abstaining is contradictory.

2) I forgot that you subbed in late but from your few posts during the first day you DIDN'T say you supported the no-lynch plan which means by default that you supported the lynch someone plan. That is how I thought about it. And to pick on just that one fact and then level the statement that I am "blatantly wrong" and "making false accusations" when the all the other ones check out is a HUGE overstatement.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 21 2010 21:49 GMT
#918
NOTE: I am not saying any of those people are mafia, I'm saying that the argument against me is flawed.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 21 2010 21:57 GMT
#925
On July 22 2010 06:55 Bill Murray wrote:
I would like to address me not having chaoser's vote. in the following post he bolded 55 words, and used the word "vote" or "unvote" 28 times.

sorry for missing it, but make it clearer next time. i would prefer you to put it in the opening or ending of your post. if you're going to put it in the middle, please make it easier to see (like don't bold half the post and include the word vote every 5th word)
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 13:01 chaoser wrote:
On July 21 2010 05:49 chaoser wrote:
Does anyone know when day is ending? Tomorrow at 12?

So far the votes have been

Divinek votes for BrownBear at 13:59
DarthThienAn votes Divinek at 13.59
tree.hugger votes Subversion at 14:03
DarthThienAn unvotes Divinek, votes BrownBear at 14:34
d3_crescentia votes DarthThienAn at 14:50
Amber[LighT] votes BrownBear at 22:15
bumatlarge votes DarthThienAn at 22:59
~OpZ~ votes BrownBear at 1:01
rastaban votes BrownBear at 1:59
Misder votes DarthThienAn at 3:18
Tricode votes BrownBear at 4:02
Pyrrhuloxia votes DarthThienAn at 4:57
bumatlarge unvotes DarthThienAn, votes Subversion at 5:25
DarthThienAn unvotes BrownBear, votes Subversion at 5:30

NEW VOTES:

chaoser votes Subversion at 6:02
BrownBear abstains at 6:52
Pandain votes chaoser at 6:53
Jayme votes Subversion at 8:20
youngminii votes chaoser at 8:32
chaoser unvotes, abstains at 9:25
LaXerCannon abstains at 9:27
SouthRawrea votes for chaoser at 11:19
chaoser votes for Subversion at 12:34

hmm, let's test something. this is either going to bite me in the ass or go very well for me

##vote Subversion

End result:
BrownBear - 5 (Divinek, Amber[LighT], ~OpZ~, rastaban, Tricode)
Subversion - 5 (tree.hugger, DarthThienAn, bumatlarge, Jayme, chaoser)
DarthThienAn - 3 (d3_crescentia, Misder, Pyrrhuloxia)
chaoser - 3 (Pandain, youngminii, SouthRawrea)
abstain - 2 (BrownBear, LaXerCannon)

People yet to vote:
xelin, SiNiquity, lakrismamma, Infundibulum, Subversion, BloodyC0bbler, Citi.zen, zeks, protactinium, roffles



yeah sorry about that, will do next time
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 21 2010 22:05 GMT
#930
BTW, posting/reading this thread while listening to the Inception soundtrack is legit. You guys should all try it.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 21 2010 22:47 GMT
#956
On July 22 2010 07:44 Pandain wrote:
Also, since as of now theres basically a 3 way tie between Darth, Subversion, And Chaoser, what happens if theres a tie. Do they all get lynched? None of them?


First person to the 7 gets lynched, that means DTA I think
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 21 2010 22:51 GMT
#963
On July 22 2010 07:49 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 07:43 Pandain wrote:
On July 22 2010 07:17 DarthThienAn wrote:
unvote
##Vote: chaoser


Someone, quick summary of what chaoser is being lynched?


Why would you vote for Chaoser if you didn't even know what he was being lynched for ? :o


Actually the least scummy thing he's done so far. Logically, he doesn't want to die.


If he really didn't want to die he would have voted for Subversion cause that pushes Subversion to 8, new highest. Just pointing that out.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 21 2010 23:40 GMT
#991
followed by the start of BrownBear's bandwagon.

On July 19 2010 09:05 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +


So basically you just said: "lawl, i messed up/made a mistake but oh well, not going to change." Anyone else find that suspicious?


so by your definition, anyone that FoS anyone is bandwagoning?

Recall that post of his stating that he's gonna abstain for now only to avoid a modkill? Well, he never really changed his vote afterwards.

On July 20 2010 23:02 chaoser wrote:
And to be truthful, I don;t really believe that BrownBear is townie just from the way he's posting. For the first day he pretty much posts nothing and bandwagons with no real reason. When people point him out of it (that he voted before reading) he goes oh well, it doesn't matter now when it CLEARLY did, the vote ended 6-5. Then, after a whole DAY of people pointing fingers at him he decides to come in and post about vets claiming and basically giving horrible advice. I'm inclined to say he's mafia who fucked up the first day and now he's trying to play dumb townie. Also, his whole ramble about claiming is pushing us off the topic of Subversion's suspicious vote as well as his little statement about how mafia isn't really making mistakes.

I'm not 100% clear on my vote yet but I'm watching BrownBear for now. And I also think we should vote double lynch. It's going to be 52 hours till the next lynch give or take, you guys don't think we'll have more than enough information then?


I said I would be watching BB. I did, I didn't see anything that 100% convinced me he was mafia

So then he goes onto kill BB, and also think we should waste our double lynch pretty early, but when he wakes up like 7 hours later, he decides "Oh shit, don't feel like voting for BB, gonna use it on Subversion instead"

On July 21 2010 06:02 chaoser wrote:
Also, I'm going to put in my vote for Subversion. So far I don't know how I feel about BrownBear. At first I wanted to vote him. He's been playing badly and didn't do anything day one. But then at the same time people jumped all over voting for him in the beginning until just recently when people switched to Subversion, or at least it feels like that.

Subversion's little mafia mistake statement is just weird all in all and was part of that voting block (everyone's already mentioned this) so I'll put my vote on him for now but I'll have to see. Still a full day left.

##vote Subversion


I didn't say "oh shit, gonna change votes for no reason lawl." 1) I hadn't voted on BB yet, was jsut talking about how people should keep a close eye on him and 2) I outlined my reasons in that post


So if you do a little reading, you'll see that the reason why he switched over to Subversion was simply because other people were doing it. "At first, I wanted to vote BB cause everyone else was killing him. Now they're killing Subversion, so I might as well make myself comfortable and hop on as well"


That's not it at all, I said I voted for him because 1) BB's bandwagon from people voting for him seemed weird and so he was less suspicious and 2) Subversion's mafia hasn't made a mistake comment was fishy,
"At first, I wanted to vote BB cause everyone else was killing him. Now they're killing Subversion, so I might as well make myself comfortable and hop on as well"


^--not that at all

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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 21 2010 23:41 GMT
#993
sorry DTA, gotta vote you to keep alive, mafia trying VERYYY hard to kill me and not you. =p

everyone, please take note of all the people voting me last minute, thanks.

##unvote
##vote DarthThienAn
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 21 2010 23:45 GMT
#995
I just want to point out that a lot of people are voting for me with good solid reasons like, "voting him, someone summarize for me?" or "i skimmed the last few pages" or "oh well, whatever"
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 21 2010 23:48 GMT
#997
On July 22 2010 08:44 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 08:40 chaoser wrote:

That's not it at all, I said I voted for him because 1) BB's bandwagon from people voting for him seemed weird and so he was less suspicious and 2) Subversion's mafia hasn't made a mistake comment was fishy,
^--not that at all




So your 7 statements rallying against BB weren't sufficient enough to gather a vote, yet when subversion makes a sentence that seems "fishy" its like "woah, he must be mafia!" and you actually DO vote for him after the BB bandwagon has started.

All the while advocating a double lynch.


What are my 7 statements? Please post them.

I voted for subversion not just because he made a "fishy" statement but also because BB was being voted on like crazy. The only other person that seemed suspicious to me at the thing was subversion so I voted.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 21 2010 23:52 GMT
#1000
8] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, Pyrrhuloxia, XeliN, zeks, Subversion, chaoser, LaXerCannon, rastaban)
9] chaoser (DarthThienAn, youngminii, Roffles, SouthRawrEa, misder, lakrismamma, citi.zen, BrownBear, Divinek)
6] Subversion (tree.hugger, bumatlarge, darththienan, jayme, Amber[LighT], Pandain)
3] Brownbear (Divinek, tricode, ~opz~)
1] Amber[LighT] (BloodyC0bbler)
Abstain: (SiNiquity, Protactinium, Infundibulum, rastaban)[/quote]

not voting:
everyone voted!

double lynch:

(1/15)
iNfuNdiBuLuM


day ends in under 5 1/2 hours

think that's the vote, modified BM's to be more recent, well good bye town, take note of last minute votes on me
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 22 2010 00:09 GMT
#1007
My test is simple.

People seemed veryyyy into somehow making me into a lynch target even though I wasn't even a blip on the radar before today. I compiled information and let the game run it's course. This is because I don't like to impose my opinion on people unless I feel it's very very accurate and correct. I was waiting for more information because I said something because I like to be sure. That is why some people think i was "under the radar". But I didn't want to not help the town so I did the only thing I could do, I compiled lists and information. They not only help me think about patterns in people's movements and decisions but they can be used by all of the town. By presenting them as just information I was trying hard not to put a spin on it so that it was pure.

But all of a sudden, Pandain puts together this HUGE case against me using faulty logic (which I'm glad to see that at least some people agree with). I was forced to defend myself. As the game wore on, I started to wonder, when did these accusations come about? Very close to the time that you, Subversion, were heading upwards in votes. Darth was still ahead of you but you were close to the top. So I decided to vote on you and tie the votes. This would force people into motion if you were truly mafia. To either vote for me or vote for Darth. And they did. People moved to Darth and me. But for some reason, even though I convinced Pandain to move off me and showed that the logic is flawed AT BEST, people kept voting for me. My test was complete.

I'll be glad to die if my death gives the town information about the mafia. a lot of people used fucked up logic to vote for me or to even convince others to vote for me. Those people should be looked at. Even when I responded and destroyed their arguments they said "eh, that's your opinion, I don't feel that way" It's not opinion, it's fact. Mafia is trying very hard to save someone right now. I don't know who but my death should shed some light. Good luck town.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 22 2010 00:10 GMT
#1009
er, can i edit the grammar of that previous post?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 22 2010 00:16 GMT
#1013
also, a lot of my statements on BrownBear and Subversion were direct results of seeing people write "he's under the radar..sketchhh, all he does is make lists...hmmm" so I see that that came to bite me in the ass
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 22 2010 00:37 GMT
#1021
On July 22 2010 09:03 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 09:00 tree.hugger wrote:
This is the stupidest thing, pretty much ever.

Is there evidence against chaoser? Nobody can really explain what it is. Is there evidence against DTA? Hardly. Is there evidence against Subversion? Yes, there is.

1) Subversion voted at the last minute to lynch someone who's bandwagon was pathetic from the start, and really had nothing behind it. But the real significance of that vote, was that it saved someone else (youngminii). We didn't know about it at the time, because BM's count was off, but the mafia (assuming for a moment that youngminii is red) would clearly have a much more accurate count. They might've assumed that BM's vote count would be a cover, but at any rate they needed to make sure to save their own member.

2) Subversion's post, in which he commented on how well the mafia were doing was (a) not true, and (b) something that I don't think I've ever heard anyone innocent ever say in a game of mafia. That's something I can see a new mafia member thinking a townie would say, but that's not something a townie would actually say.

Furthermore, lynching Subversion just makes plain sense from a town perspective. A whole host of people have put their reputations on the line to save Subversion. Nobody has said anything in chaoser's defense. Nobody has said anything in DTA's defense. They've been left to defend themselves, and, apparently to some people that looks guilty.

What does that mean? Aside from being absurdly suspicious, if we lynch Subversion, then we gain a ton of information. If Subversion flips red, then we catch youngminii right off the bat. citi.zen has been defending Subversion nearly every post he gets, albeit a little more subtlety. Almost everyone in the game is on record saying something about Subversion, which means that if we lynch him, we get to figure out who was right, and who was wrong and proceed from there.

None of the other lynch candidates are even close to as valuable as Subversion. If we lose another day lynching people who aren't mafia, then we're going to be in trouble.


And it was this argument that changed my mind and made me unvote Chaoser and vote Subversion.


From reading this, I'll change my vote to Subversion even though that means I'll 100% die.

Darth, if you wanna help me, you could switch it over too and I think he'll be first.

##unvote
##vote Subversion

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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 22 2010 00:57 GMT
#1034
On July 22 2010 09:57 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
@DTA
So now we can't even take your blue hints seriously? Dude just die already. I'm tired of trying to sift through your jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes without at least having Ellen Page to keep my company.


BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 22 2010 01:51 GMT
#1089
It's currently 9:50 EST, we have about 2 hours 10 minutes till day ends at 12 EST
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 22 2010 02:13 GMT
#1124


THIS is WIFOM

Sigh, I don't even know what to think anymore. At this point I feel like none of us are mafia ;_;. Since both DTA and Subversion are soft claiming blue, I don't mind if I get lynched. I'm only green btw.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 22 2010 02:15 GMT
#1129
On July 22 2010 11:13 DarthThienAn wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 22 2010 11:13 chaoser wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EkBuKQEkio&feature=related

THIS is WIFOM

Sigh, I don't even know what to think anymore. At this point I feel like none of us are mafia ;_;. Since both DTA and Subversion are soft claiming blue, I don't mind if I get lynched. I'm only green btw.


We should just lynch me to prove how bad Pyrr is at this game.


Now the two of us are examples of WIFOM. WHY DO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEING INCEPTION-ED?!?
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