EPTWhen does day start (12:00 EST or is it back to 9:00 EST)? I want to see if I can stay up late or wake up early to make my vote for the next day (mafia time).
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When does day start (12:00 EST or is it back to 9:00 EST)? I want to see if I can stay up late or wake up early to make my vote for the next day (mafia time). | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On July 22 2010 02:09 citi.zen wrote: Glad you asked! I am intrigued by the trifecta of you/zeks/BC. If one of you turned red, I'd heavily suspect the others. The converse obviously does not necessarily hold. BC concluded in his long post that zeks and misder are likely innocents who left the hyperbola bandwagon when they realized what a monster of a creation is was, and that it was probably leading to lynching an innocent player (hello day 1 lynches). Seems like a pretty strong thing to infer, but the man has mad experience, so who knows. Both zeks and misder use the same argument for their switch: they never voted with any conviction, only to make hyperbola become more active. Then foolishness got killed and the ever so helpful misder put together a post on foolishnes' accusations about me and darth, conveniently forgetting to include the fact that foolishness voted for BC. This post was an obvious attempt to start suspicion, but mysteriously misder never followed up on it once Amber 'splained it to him: Most townies enjoy debating their hunches, mafia prefers to start shit and then lay low - this is exactly what you did here. So yeah, I think you make an excellent lynching candidate. If you turned red we'd have a lead on other players. If you are not lynched you or zeks should get checked tonight (not BC - if red he would be the GF who put himself up for checking). That's my little conspiracy theory of the day! my post + Show Spoiler + On July 22 2010 03:30 Misder wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 22 2010 02:09 citi.zen wrote: Glad you asked! I am intrigued by the trifecta of you/zeks/BC. If one of you turned red, I'd heavily suspect the others. The converse obviously does not necessarily hold. BC concluded in his long post that zeks and misder are likely innocents who left the hyperbola bandwagon when they realized what a monster of a creation is was, and that it was probably leading to lynching an innocent player (hello day 1 lynches). Seems like a pretty strong thing to infer, but the man has mad experience, so who knows. Both zeks and misder use the same argument for their switch: they never voted with any conviction, only to make hyperbola become more active. Then foolishness got killed and the ever so helpful misder put together a post on foolishnes' accusations about me and darth, conveniently forgetting to include the fact that foolishness voted for BC. This post was an obvious attempt to start suspicion, but mysteriously misder never followed up on it once Amber 'splained it to him: Most townies enjoy debating their hunches, mafia prefers to start shit and then lay low - this is exactly what you did here. So yeah, I think you make an excellent lynching candidate. If you turned red we'd have a lead on other players. If you are not lynched you or zeks should get checked tonight (not BC - if red he would be the GF who put himself up for checking). That's my little conspiracy theory of the day! + Show Spoiler + On July 19 2010 08:08 Hyperbola wrote: Guys, really? Okay so I'm pretty much lynched because you people can't take a joke. So I'm leaving this as my legacy: People I think are mafia or atleast seem fishy: Brown Bear Really dude? Jumping on a bandwagon before even reading the thread? youngminii You are entirely too defensive when a person puts a vote on you as a placeholder. Either you are scum or a very nervous blue. You also endorse no lynching on the first day to appear to be "pro-life" and "for the town". I really don't see your reasoning behind this because a random shot in the dark of inactives or suspicious players can in fact nab a red. And if it doesn't you only lose a green because a blue would at least roleclaim or try to join up with trust circles to avoid getting lynched in this manner. (Divided blues that don't make connections are really hindering the town). SiNiquity I had absolutely no evidence against you before but now you are starting to stink of scum at first you took my accusal of you as a joke and brushed it off, but when people started accusing me of being mafia you saw an opportunity and went into action to provide as much evidence as you could find against me by even looking into past games. Then you just completely shut your mouth and is now waiting for the situation to close to start talking again (afraid you'll say something to bring attention to you and me being the perfect scapegoat). Also your previous posts were really try-hard in my opinion. You contributed absolutely nothing by typing up lengthy posts that just summarized what everyone said. Besides that you clarified and discussed some rules of the game and such. You want to make it seem like you are contributing and keep a neutral and non aggressive stance like a reporter so no one would suspect you. This could just be your playstyle but it seems like a very cautious red one to me. LaXerCannon First LaxerCannon recommends lynching inactives but then goes ahead and abstains. Then he goes on again about how we should just line up inactives to lynch and doesn't change his vote. Then he vanishes. This is fishy for two reasons. First the obvious contradiction, and second, the effort to try and direct suspicion away from him. He keeps pushing the idea to lynch random inactive people while the town debates over a few suspects and really does nothing but push the town in the wrong direction: not analysing the game but killing off quiet people. Then he talks about playoffs and keeps endorcing random picking ideas. That is wayy too anti-town to be a blue. And if he's green he doesn't care about the game much. ------------------------------------------------------- this is all I have now and hope I at least contributed to the game before I die sorry about trying to have fun guys :/ j/k  ~peace I never said the only reason to vote to lynch him was to get him active. I said it was a plus. + Show Spoiler + blah. I don't want to abstain... but I don't know who to lynch  I vote LaXerCannon because his posts don't have any substance whatsoever. He tries to contribute, but doesn't give any astounding idea. His ideas are based on previous ideas that have been said, and doesn't say anything new. Then he distracts from the conversation. Either Hyperbola is a mafia member that is trying every attempt to get out, by making false accusations, or he is a townie who make a mistake but is trying to amend it by giving analysis. I tend to lean towards the latter. Plus, Hyperbola is now being active, which is good. If he is a mafia member, his activeness may work against him because he will have to dodge a lot to make it seem like he is a townie. If he is a townie, well, good. An active townie a very very good. Hopefully, I made the right decision... My reason for lynching him was this + Show Spoiler + As for the hyperbola bandwagon: I didn't really mean to actually start the bandwagon xD I just pointed out that his posts don't provide substance at all, and his defense is very poor. and I think this came a way too late. Why not say this when defending himself the first time? He's just asking to be lynched... Nothing in there said that I wanted him to be active. I changed my vote because he contributed a lot to the town even though he was under attack. No mafia member would do this. This is pro-town behavior. The reason why I gathered up the posts from Foolishness was to see if we could find anything from his posts. It wasn't like I was making a claim based on Foolishness's posts, just making sure we didn't miss out on something that the mafia didn't want Foolishness to expand on. Foolishness was a clear advocate for lynching DTA and you (citi.zen). Mafia may have wanted to kill Foolishness before he can expand. After Amber's post, I didn't know if I was going the right direction or not. It seemed like what I was doing was not helping, so I stopped. I thought that I got my point across with original post, and I left it at that. Do not put me in the same category as zeks or BC. I have my own suspicion of both of them... though not as thought out. citi.zen, you've only made one post against me (with actual content), and I have responded earlier. Just saying. And if you really want to lynch me, you have tonight and day (mafia time) to present to the people before I can respond... (as I stated, I will not be able to get internet access tomorrow, and maybe even the day after tomorrow.) | ||
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##Vote Pyrrholuxia For DTA Since I can't defend myself later and no one is probably going to defend me, I'll just say that I'm pro-town. My only sugestion is look at my posts. They are the only things defending me right now. Hopefully I will be able to get internet access sometime soon. | ||
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##vote SouthRawrea ##vote Pandain I'm back. And I read through the entire thread. It confused the heck out of me... my first mafia game wasn't this complicated. >.< Here's my train of thought: SouthRawrea has been lying, and fake claiming. Easy enough. And when he is asked to post PMs, he retypes it. I think that he doesn't know what PM posting looks like, so in order to cover up his made up PMs, he says he retypes it. Pandain has been lying in the PMs. To me, this suggests that he is mafia. Even when he is PMing, he doesn't follow the plans that are given. I don't know anything about PMing in a mafia game, but it seems to be all a mind game. And it seems like Pandain is confusing as many people as possible. I don't feel like BC is mafia. If he is, we can prove it by lynching zeks. This is pretty flawed, but I just have a feeling (I could be completely wrong, in which...) I also think that we should consider lynching rastaban. rastaban's dt is fake; we cannot confirm whether he is lying or that his dt is lying. We lynch rastaban to get this info. | ||
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##Vote divinek I am a townie. If you recall, I was gone the entire night one day. If I was mafia, I could not have done anything at night (actually, I'm not sure about this... I just looked at the rules and BM didn't say anything about not voting as mafia and I have never been mafia ever). I have not contacted anyone via PM. My votes: rastaban- 1. to keep me alive 2. BC is smart. I feel that he and BC talked about it just to get suspision off of rastaban. Or BC just tricked rastaban and me... Divinek- 1. Even though I know he's just pressure voting me like brownbear, hes the one who started it  Oh, and pressuring me to post, unfortunately won't work I actually have camp for 4 weeks. So I can only post on breaks and at night. I guess you can lynch me on inactivity, but that is a bit late... If lynching me helps catch someone else, thats good too. I won't need to post anymore and contributed to the town xD | ||
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On July 30 2010 07:57 Misder wrote: ##Vote rastaban ##Vote divinek I am a townie. If you recall, I was gone the entire night one day. If I was mafia, I could not have done anything at night (actually, I'm not sure about this... I just looked at the rules and BM didn't say anything about not voting as mafia and I have never been mafia ever). I have not contacted anyone via PM. My votes: rastaban- 1. to keep me alive 2. BC is smart. I feel that he and BC talked about it just to get suspision off of rastaban. Or BC just tricked rastaban and me... Divinek- 1. Even though I know he's just pressure voting me like brownbear, hes the one who started it Oh, and pressuring me to post, unfortunately won't work I actually have camp for 4 weeks. So I can only post on breaks and at night. I guess you can lynch me on inactivity, but that is a bit late... If lynching me helps catch someone else, thats good too. I won't need to post anymore and contributed to the town xDIf mafia was trying to save me, they would have stacked on rastaban. This looks suspicious to anyone who voted tree.hugger and not rastaban after my post. That would be BB. But he unvoted me for tree.hugger, so I guess this is irrelevant. Your right, probably lynching me instead of tree.hugger would have been better in terms of inactivity... But you still shouldn't lynch a townie. Youngminii, you need to change your quote | ||
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I'm just gonna continue to vote for rastaban. I still believe that BC is smart enough to create a fake pm for the mafia group in order to get rid of any suspicion of a mafia member. #Vote rastaban | ||
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On August 02 2010 03:59 BrownBear wrote: Holy shit Protact. I am very impress. I want to raise the topic of Misder's inactivity - namely, it's nothing new. TL Mafia XXVI: Day 1: Shows up late, votes for me for Mayor right after I withdraw my candidacy, then doesnt post. Throughout the rest of the game, posted the bare minimum to stay alive, only stayed on bandwagons, occasionally popped up with some kinda-alright analysis... you get the picture. Only thing he had going for him this game was, he ended up being green. It's possible he is doing the exact same thing again. I went further back, and couldn't find any other games, so this is all we got to go on. this is the way i play >.< this is my second mafia game, so that is the only one in the past. i guess you really cant judge from only one mafia game. Luckily, this mafia game will also support the fact even when I'm inactive, I will end up green. Actually, a lot in that mafia game thought a was mafia member... | ||
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On August 02 2010 06:58 Divinek wrote: im pushing for you for night one kills in every game from now on Why? Just because I've been inactive sometimes. I still think I contributed more to the game than say, Jayme or tricode. My current list is: rastaban chaoser pyrrholuxia but I need to do more reseaerch on this least. I will try to do this when I have to the time, probably tonight. | ||
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On August 02 2010 14:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Out of 3 reds we have two on citizen and one on SR. So how do you get so full blown sure the rest of the mafia voted citizen? The mafia can sit back and change their vote whenever they want and we already know one voted to bus that day. I still think the mutual support between Misder / BC is the best case. + Show Spoiler [Day 3 Votes] + SouthRawrea tree.hugger Amber[Light] BloodyCobbler Pandain Chaoser Pyrrhuloxia Protactinium Rastaban Infudibulum BrownBear Divinek SouthRawrea (8) Tricode Xelin bumatlarge zeks lakrismamma SiNiquity Abstain (2) Opz Opz (1) d3_crescentia Pyrrhuloxia (1) Misder Protactinium (1) LaXerCannon We can almost gaurantee that the rest of the mafia voted citi.zen because otherwise, SouthRawrea would have been every close to being lynched. Anyways, everyone that voted for SouthRawrea is confirmed already. The only people that didn't vote for citi.zen or SouthRawrea are ~Opz~, Subversion, d3, Misder, and LaXerCannon. These are the hardest to figure out in the vote. However, Subversion is dead confirmed detective, LaXerCannon is dead confirmed miller. The only other people are ~Opz~, d3, and Misder. d3 is most likely town aligned (why is this really? All he did was claim medic protection. That doesn't mean his is town aligned, just that he was saved... why does this make him a townie?). So who's left in the didn't vote for either is ~Opz~ and Misder. ~Opz~ abstained; I don't recall the reasoning on this one and I can't find his post where he voted abstain...did he even vote? (also, as I was looking through his posts, he pointed out that Xelin may be mafia). Misder was out the entire day and he voted based on DTA's request the previous day. I never had any specific connection to BC. The only thing I can recall is BC claiming that I was townie, but he also did that with zeks the Mad Hatter. Then I didn't want to vote BC on Day 4, but I wasn't the only one tricked by him + I voted for SouthRawrea the mafia. | ||
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On August 03 2010 04:49 ~OpZ~ wrote: D3 had to of been hit by mafia. Stop throwing suspicion onto him. Tricode had ONE hit. He used it on BC. So d3 was med procted by roffles of sinquity. D3 is Town aligned, and you are most likely mafia or can't understand that mafia never stack hits day one. They only stack when they KNOW they are going to hit someone that is important. Hate to break it to you. Anyway, I'm more certain about some things now. Everyone, check your PMs. Upper left corner. I'm not throwing suspicion on d3, I was just wondering. Thats why I said that he was town aligned as the consensus, and I just wanted to know why. I got a PM from Pandain? Is that of importance? + Show Spoiler + On August 03 2010 05:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: You made a post recounting almost everything Foolishness said, leaving out his suspicions and ultimate vote for BC. Plus you didn't vote for him Day 4. Plus BC tried to establish you and zeks as innocent, except (unlike Zeks) people had a lot of reasons to be suspicious of you already and called out BC for calling you likely green. I thought I went through every single post that day. I'm sorry I didn't get everything. citi,zen already corrected me on my mistake; i get it. I wasn't the only one who didn't vote for BC. And even BB said that he almost didn't vote for him even after being very very against him. No one was suspicious of me until like 2 days ago... BC called zeks innocent. Just look at that. BC didn't know that zeks was the mad hatter that time. But hes a smart mafia player. If we had lynched BC before, we would have wasted a double lynch on lyching zeks the mad hatter and me the townie. Anyways, I'm taking my vote off of rastaban. My original suspicion was based on BC-rastaban pms an that I thought that BC made up a PM list for rastaban to send. But now that I think about it, it really does seem like rastaban is just a puppet. Its still smart on BC's part, and rastaban is making good analysis on chaoser, which I agree with. And the story fits in the overall picture. ##Unvote rastaban ##Vote pyrr Im voting for pyrr for four reasons. 1. his push on lynching DTA. It was he who started the bandwagon. People already was suspicious of DTA of his weird behavior, but it wasn't like he seemed mafia like. pyrr the mafia knew this, and it was a simple way to lynch a veteran (as in plays the game mafia a lot) without being suspicious. 2. DTA said to lynch him. 3. He himself is a veteran (at the game). He was kind of invisible throughout the game besides the lynching of DTA. 4. His voting sequence has been DTA, DTA, citi.zen, Pandain, Misder. 3 of these are dead townies, and I know I am a townie. | ||
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On August 03 2010 08:52 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: 1. DTA had to be lynched and if you remember correctly YOU started the day 2 bandwagon on him because my post about DTA started with me quoting YOUR post against him using Foolishness's posts (which also left out posts about BC). 2. And how was youngminii's list? More townies than reds at this point. Who knows what DTA would think if he was still in the game - we have to play from what we know now. 3. I have been active the entire game. 4. 3/4 of them had been caught lying: DTA soft claiming blue (I realize some of you don't agree with this, tough), Citizen claiming blue, now you trying to say about DTA "it wasn't like he seemed mafia like" when you were the first to vote against him day 2 - refusing responsibility for your own role and trying to push it all on to me. Pandain flipped red. 1. Your right... I voted for DTA first. But I didn't say we should all jump in and keep voting for him. I just know that DTA should have been smart enough to stop acting weird and not get lynched. Then you come in, and actually convince people to jump in. 2. My #2 wasn't a legit reason. But of course, we should always be suspcious of everyone who votes for the townies 3. Uhhh... like when I go through your posts, its mostly spam. So if you think thats active, well... 4. I started the vote, I didn't continue. He didn't seem mafia like at all at the end... DTA was joking around when he "soft claimed" blue. And why did you vote for him the first day? citi.zen maybe claimed blue, but why would you vote for a townie than a mafia member who was suspicious already (i actually dont know much about this one as I was gone, but iirc thats what happened...) And if you were mafia, you would know that they are townies. Them lying only gives you the excuse. I hate this end game lol. I can never tell who is mafia and town... Maybe Pyrr is town... goddangit. Might as well go all in. The problem is... if Pyrr is green, then its almost gaurenteed that I'm going to get lynched. I say that we still need to vote someone else before me. Or you can lynch a townie just because I prediction went wrong. Your choice. | ||
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On August 05 2010 07:59 Pandain wrote: is that why you killed him? Haha I thought that would've been too miniscule a reason and mafia just wanted to hit a potential blue. It was so much better for mafia when misder accidently left out the Foolishness post accusing BC lol. Yeah... about that... And then someone, i forgot who, told me that what I was doing is what the mafia wanted us to do, eg get us confused. And of course, being new to this game, I just thought that my idea was a horrible idea, and I just didn't go back to his posts anymore. I didn't get lynched tho, after all the accusations yay! I think I was a better townie than i was my first game. I didn't join in on the PMs though, cause I had no idea how to use them correctly. Cept that everyone else failed at PMing... | ||
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On August 05 2010 08:57 Divinek wrote: hm well i was fairly convinced pyrr/proct was red but had no way of convincing anyone but opz apparently , i need to learn how to push on people harder! god damn inactive sheep townies voting for people that have real looking evidence!i wish my other confirmed townies like actually talked to me once in a while was a fun game though for sure cheers. psshhh. At least I was right on my votes on rastaban/pyrr. | ||
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On August 05 2010 14:21 DarthThienAn wrote: I can't believe no one listened to me and took out Pyrr. I did Too bad I'm not good at this game tho... | ||
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