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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 04 2010 21:46 GMT
#3621
My faults this game: A reflective analysis

1.Too impulsive, made Subversion "doubt me" Also got me in sticky situations

2.Too trusting, trusted everyone in secret alliance =D. Especially proct, who I just thought was confused. Also too persuadable, as I was easily persuaded by mafia again and again.

3.Mis-guessed so many people for little "one liner mistakes". which is not enough to prove that you are mafia. Huge mistake, especially with Hyperbola.

4. Trusted people who made long posts, viewed them as "pro town"

zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
August 04 2010 21:47 GMT
#3622
Arg I had a good feeling I was going to die but I didn't mind dying to the bomber really

but to have siniquity and lakris die on the same day was definitely out of my calculations

for the record I never called for a XeliN protect I was actually thinking that siniquity wouldn't protect anyone at all

well played at the end. no one took notice of the lurkers, and then when all the blues died the lurkers came out and won the game
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
August 04 2010 21:47 GMT
#3623
On August 05 2010 06:46 Pandain wrote:
My faults this game: A reflective analysis

1.Too impulsive, made Subversion "doubt me" Also got me in sticky situations

2.Too trusting, trusted everyone in secret alliance =D. Especially proct, who I just thought was confused. Also too persuadable, as I was easily persuaded by mafia again and again.

3.Mis-guessed so many people for little "one liner mistakes". which is not enough to prove that you are mafia. Huge mistake, especially with Hyperbola.

4. Trusted people who made long posts, viewed them as "pro town"


Re: Elemenope.

I highly doubt anybody read my posts. Everybody writes off long posts as immediately pro-town.
citi.zen why so bitter?
And so, we find the Sublime.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 04 2010 21:48 GMT
#3624
On August 05 2010 06:47 zeks wrote:
Arg I had a good feeling I was going to die but I didn't mind dying to the bomber really

but to have siniquity and lakris die on the same day was definitely out of my calculations

for the record I never called for a XeliN protect I was actually thinking that siniquity wouldn't protect anyone at all

well played at the end. no one took notice of the lurkers, and then when all the blues died the lurkers came out and won the game


I am pretty sure siniquity was protecting you by the way.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 04 2010 21:52 GMT
#3625
On August 05 2010 06:45 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 06:27 Pandain wrote:
Four major events that saved mafia:
1.Inflitration of DT Subversion
2.The Xelin Attack
3.Sexy blue sniping
4.Medic protecting BC(hehe)

I actually think the mafia played badly. They won for a far simpler reason: the town was terrible.

Yea we really effed up the role claiming stuff but it was sorta necessary given the setup.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 04 2010 21:54 GMT
#3626
On August 05 2010 06:52 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 06:45 citi.zen wrote:
On August 05 2010 06:27 Pandain wrote:
Four major events that saved mafia:
1.Inflitration of DT Subversion
2.The Xelin Attack
3.Sexy blue sniping
4.Medic protecting BC(hehe)

I actually think the mafia played badly. They won for a far simpler reason: the town was terrible.

Yea we really effed up the role claiming stuff but it was sorta necessary given the setup.


i dunno, i got citizen offed, then his entire circle died very quickly thereafter. Delaying the town from mass roleclaiming to a confirmed circle was something we were trying to prevent, I say it went well.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 04 2010 21:55 GMT
#3627
Oh also citizen, You really shouldn't have told tricode the entire plan before you instituted it. shame I can't post aim logs, but I knew it was a fake claim so I could attack it all the more lol
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 04 2010 21:55 GMT
#3628
so glad Mafia won in this ridiculous setup.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
August 04 2010 21:56 GMT
#3629
I'm with you.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 04 2010 22:02 GMT
#3630
On August 05 2010 06:52 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 06:45 citi.zen wrote:
On August 05 2010 06:27 Pandain wrote:
Four major events that saved mafia:
1.Inflitration of DT Subversion
2.The Xelin Attack
3.Sexy blue sniping
4.Medic protecting BC(hehe)

I actually think the mafia played badly. They won for a far simpler reason: the town was terrible.

Yea we really effed up the role claiming stuff but it was sorta necessary given the setup.

In doing so you gave up 4 clear reds. Xelin and Proct were the only non-obvious ones. Of course, the town was blind + compensated by giving away the blue roles, horrible PM play and failure to read.

This is the most lol sample, but there are many others like it:

-----------------------------------------

On July 28 2010 13:58 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 13:37 Pandain wrote:
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude this was like the best thing that could've happened. Well done zeks. He's trusted for sure now n.n

And to think I doubted BOTH of them being mafia.


you're kidding right? They both had clear signs of being red, south 10000x times more than bc as bc is obviously good, but yeah. There's no way you could have doubted both lol

way to go town!

Followed one minute later by:

On July 28 2010 13:59 Divinek wrote:
oh since bc knew this all of mafia knows this i might as well tell you guys

im a vet

No comment...
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
August 04 2010 22:04 GMT
#3631
No comment indeed.
Claiming just let us know who we didn't want to hit, though Divinek was never high on the list.

If the town had gone back and reread the thread then we probably would have lost. Though really, I still think it would have been almost impossible to out me.
And so, we find the Sublime.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 22:09:10
August 04 2010 22:04 GMT
#3632
lol D3 this is going to haunt you. Guess I better start updating my Winning as Scum guide. Also listen to what flamewheel said about going back to read posts:



Majority Lynch voting rules: If your Scum team has very persuasive players or the Town has impulsive voters this will favor you a lot. It makes the game move faster than a deadline enforced lynch and faster games favor you. The less time the town has to decide on important issues and talk the better for your team. You can force mistakes faster and if the Town isn't good at going back to piece together posts the blame for the lynch might miss you. Even better if a townie "caused the lynch" (more on this later) you get to point it out and have some fun.


Also major props to BC on that situation with citizen. Town or scum it was definitely a pro town move to bust citizen out for lying about a role claim for multiple reasons, the most important being that no one could ever confirm him without confirming who ever he was allegedly fronting for. By the time that all got cleared up town was screwed unless somebody really sat down and thought about how the hell could rastaban be town with his fake roleclaim too ^_^.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 04 2010 22:06 GMT
#3633
So how much did you guys(mafia) plan. Which bandwagons, which accusations, and so forth. Really interested. And which did you just let the town run towards its own doom.
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
August 04 2010 22:10 GMT
#3634
DarthThienAn bandwagon by Pyrrhuloxia and citi.zen bandwagon by BloodyC0bbler.
Mostly town just ran itself into the ground as we raged about the imbalanced setup and the random rule changes. Nights were amazing.
And so, we find the Sublime.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 04 2010 22:12 GMT
#3635
So wish I could have been mafia this game.

Not trying to pretend I played particularly well (I didn't), but god, some of the things town did were so freakin' dumb.

I still <3 you all though.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 04 2010 22:12 GMT
#3636
On August 05 2010 07:12 BrownBear wrote:
So wish I could have been mafia this game.

Not trying to pretend I played particularly well (I didn't), but god, some of the things town did were so freakin' dumb.

I still <3 you all though.


Haha, you were fun to argue with since for whatever reason you always wanted my nuts to burn in a fire.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 04 2010 22:14 GMT
#3637
On August 05 2010 07:04 Ace wrote:
lol D3 this is going to haunt you. Guess I better start updating my Winning as Scum guide. Also listen to what flamewheel said about going back to read posts:

Show nested quote +


Majority Lynch voting rules: If your Scum team has very persuasive players or the Town has impulsive voters this will favor you a lot. It makes the game move faster than a deadline enforced lynch and faster games favor you. The less time the town has to decide on important issues and talk the better for your team. You can force mistakes faster and if the Town isn't good at going back to piece together posts the blame for the lynch might miss you. Even better if a townie "caused the lynch" (more on this later) you get to point it out and have some fun.


Also major props to BC on that situation with citizen. Town or scum it was definitely a pro town move to bust citizen out for lying about a role claim for multiple reasons, the most important being that no one could ever confirm him without confirming who ever he was allegedly fronting for. By the time that all got cleared up town was screwed unless somebody really sat down and thought about how the hell could rastaban be town with his fake roleclaim too ^_^.



Much obliged. As i told everyone in thread I would do it regardless of role. Thankfully infundi, chaoser and tree.hugger also saw issues and helped me win the day.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
August 04 2010 22:15 GMT
#3638
Heh, thankfully I had BloodyC0bbler and Pyrrhuloxia on my team. Ver style doesn't quite cut it when you're short on time and not a noticeable figure in thread.

Major props guys. SouthRawrea, where are you?
And so, we find the Sublime.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 04 2010 22:17 GMT
#3639
On August 05 2010 07:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 07:04 Ace wrote:
lol D3 this is going to haunt you. Guess I better start updating my Winning as Scum guide. Also listen to what flamewheel said about going back to read posts:



Majority Lynch voting rules: If your Scum team has very persuasive players or the Town has impulsive voters this will favor you a lot. It makes the game move faster than a deadline enforced lynch and faster games favor you. The less time the town has to decide on important issues and talk the better for your team. You can force mistakes faster and if the Town isn't good at going back to piece together posts the blame for the lynch might miss you. Even better if a townie "caused the lynch" (more on this later) you get to point it out and have some fun.


Also major props to BC on that situation with citizen. Town or scum it was definitely a pro town move to bust citizen out for lying about a role claim for multiple reasons, the most important being that no one could ever confirm him without confirming who ever he was allegedly fronting for. By the time that all got cleared up town was screwed unless somebody really sat down and thought about how the hell could rastaban be town with his fake roleclaim too ^_^.



Much obliged. As i told everyone in thread I would do it regardless of role. Thankfully infundi, chaoser and tree.hugger also saw issues and helped me win the day.


No credit for me? I withstood being blackmailed by youngmini and voted for citizen.

Albeit maybe I should've given it -.-
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 04 2010 22:20 GMT
#3640
On August 05 2010 07:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 07:12 BrownBear wrote:
So wish I could have been mafia this game.

Not trying to pretend I played particularly well (I didn't), but god, some of the things town did were so freakin' dumb.

I still <3 you all though.


Haha, you were fun to argue with since for whatever reason you always wanted my nuts to burn in a fire.


haha, it was mostly meta + you pissed me off. When you first shouted down the roleclaim idea, I got pissed, then I sat and thought "wait, if BC were town he'd be smart enough to know this is a great townie move, thus he must be mafia."

Was bad at communicating it to other people, though. I can usually be persuasive, but I'm nothing compared to you ^^
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