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a random day 1 lynch might win the game for us your plan would ruin the game for us the fact you are pushing for a plan which draws the game out where the mafia have unlimited recruitment nights.................................... just stop now if you aren't red.
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We are doing L's plan. There is nothing else to discuss.
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On July 01 2010 16:45 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2010 16:36 Bill Murray wrote:On July 01 2010 13:18 BrownBear wrote:In this game, it looks like the middle is in more danger than the strong players, as most people (myself included) think they'll be recruited. And now everyone's placing me in the middle pool. Curses. Gotta work harder at being a better player. I'm not striving to be the best player, but I do want to work my skill level to a point where I can at least be considered very good. But now for some funtimes. Korynne: On July 01 2010 12:02 Korynne wrote: I personally put BrownBear down with A5J and Hesmyrr, he's not quite as active as I'd like him to be, whereas me and YInk post a lot more I think. Referring to BM's list, placing me as a player minimally likely to be recruited. Then, next page: On July 01 2010 12:33 Korynne wrote: So probably if I was GF I would go for middle of the road people, like BrownBear/Hesmyrr/AcrossFiveJulys. Enough skill to not like, out the entire mafia somehow, and under the radar enough to not be under heavy scrutiny like citi.zen or L. OBJECTION! That is a contradiction, missy. Explain yourself? Hey, being "minimally likely" is better than "no fucking chance". The way you've been posting this game, I would recruit you. Is that a compliment? But I'm slightly confused. You have this awesome big long post responding to a bunch of people, including MAJORLY pointing FoS at Korynne... then you decide to lynch A5J for a jeep tell, saying he's the only obvious scumtell so far? Wut? I wasn't going to address this, even though I desired to earlier, as I wanted to "only make good posts", but since Korynne irritated me enough to take me away from attempting my goal, and i've broken it, i'll respond to this now. Korynne, though acting oddly, may not be scum. If you noticed in my post I label her as a "traitor" in all likelihood. Her acting this way might just be that she has a weird new role, so I would not want to lynch her as much as FoS on her because she is likely to be traitor, coroner, jailkeeper, roleblocker, whatever moreso than likely to be godfather as there are just simply more chances of being town than of being godfather and acting the way she is.
the way this game is set up we need to keep what blue roles we have, and all of you guys shouldn't claim unless a single mason can, assuming we have a jailer to keep them locked up and protect them. We could possibly do this with a DT later, too, right? I want to preserve our blue roles, so if you're a townie, it might be advisable to fake a claim and get recruited.
My pushing for AcrossFiveJulys is because I feel like he took us into seriousland with his scummy 3rd vote...................... in the RVS. This essentially ended the RVS. I am a fan of the Random Voting Stage, as it fits my style of play. It may just be that A5J doesn't realize. Ignorance is bliss...
If people would have listened to me last game, though, we would have probably won. The case on A5J is stronger than anyone else's case so far His play is also fitting of how the Godfather would play, and he is of a caliber to be selected (I DONT CARE IF IT WAS "RANDOM")
Plain and simple, A5J is possible scum, and as he made the game serious, let's put pressure on him and make it more serious.
I'm not saying "lynch him" 100% lets make him post more scummy voting like he did is proof that he has been actively lurking imo. that is scummy too. his 3rd vote on a wagon not only taking us out of RVS is also literally a scumtell found here:
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=JEEP's_Tells_for_Finding_Mafia
I have more experience than a lot of you, and more experience than any of the "more experienced" of you in the past couple months. I have been playing in a game that I have been in for over 3 months. I know how scum play right now, and A5J fits the description. Put pressure on him, force a claim, and lynch him if he is a liar.
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On July 01 2010 17:23 Korynne wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2010 17:12 Bill Murray wrote:
a random day 1 lynch might win the game for us your plan would ruin the game for us the fact you are pushing for a plan which draws the game out where the mafia have unlimited recruitment nights.................................... just stop now if you aren't red. How does that ruin the game?? We have to lynch, so we lynch who we think is godfather and we roleblock who we think is most likely to be mafia. Just stop arguing with me with poor logic now if you aren't red. (Legit complaints are addressed, ex when someone brought up the fact that we might not have a roleblocker, or suggesting extending it to two days because roleblocker can block for no more than two nights in a tow, etc.)
mafia can recruit night 7 8 9 10 whatever korynne just drop it.
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we need to find the godfather
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We can go back to your plan if we don't have a mason claim in the next 24 hours. Your plan is like communism, though, it looks good on paper but won't work. heed my words
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I am not good at math, but you make it easy. What do you think about lynching A5J, Yellow?
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What we need to do now is just wait on L to wake up. He will tell us what to do.
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I also feel like he will support my lynch
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yellowink, take the time away from your empty mafia IRC channel and answer my question
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What do you think about lynching A5J, Yellow?
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On July 01 2010 18:53 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: BM, are you just mad that I trashed you in your HP thread? You've been gunning to lynch me since the moment the day began lol. If you really think that being 3rd to vote for elyas is scummy, I will justify it in the same way I did right before the vote post: elyas has been an inactive and useless player in both games I've played with him, so if someone's gonna die today I'd choose him. Of course, if I hear a good argument for someone else I'd change my vote in a heartbeat.
If you just think I'm a likely person to be recruited due to my perceived skill level and name recognition in relation to everyone else in the game (most have been saying middle of the line), then I would say you probably have your head on straight. Go ahead and keep pressuring me, I can take it.
On that note, one person we should keep an eye on is citizen. He is a decent player, but is very quiet even when he's town. He'd be a good person for mafia to recruit.
1) don't reference ongoing games 2) quit making up lies, i only pushed for you after i noticed your scummy vote in the RVS. you are likely scum, so i am voting for you. 3) though I agree with you on citi.zen, he is probably a blue role. Coroner imo. You, on the other hand, are the Godfather.
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I may be tunneling here, but in this setup, one has to when they have an inkling they know who the godfather is, and i feel like I know it is A5J. Go vote to lynch A5J and put pressure on him.
@A5J
I am also irritated you ended the RVS at all in the first day of day 1 that is serious scummy behavior
also when you post "I will justify it in the same way I did right before the vote post: elyas has been an inactive and useless player in both games I've played with him, so if someone's gonna die today I'd choose him. Of course, if I hear a good argument for someone else I'd change my vote in a heartbeat." the fact that you feel like you need to justify yourself to me is also an indication that you are worried about how the thread will perceive you. you are worried that you may do something that will make you appear scum, and you don't post a lot, but when i pressure you you feel the need to defend yourself in case you might get lynched tomorrow morning (which you will).
You really didn't defend yourself all that well, you didn't really defend why you made the voting so serious, and you probably didn't even realize how your active lurking and scummy voting was making you appear.
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As a result, while we are going to be discussing our course of action as a town (as 85% of us are still town), keep in mind we are going to be lynching AcrossFiveJulys for being the first person to be the third person on a wagon when still in the random voting stage which isn't supposed to be that serious.
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Korynne,get that vote off me right now or provide an actual tell or reason for placing that vote on me in the thread.
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On July 01 2010 19:18 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2010 19:05 Bill Murray wrote:On July 01 2010 18:53 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: BM, are you just mad that I trashed you in your HP thread? You've been gunning to lynch me since the moment the day began lol. If you really think that being 3rd to vote for elyas is scummy, I will justify it in the same way I did right before the vote post: elyas has been an inactive and useless player in both games I've played with him, so if someone's gonna die today I'd choose him. Of course, if I hear a good argument for someone else I'd change my vote in a heartbeat.
If you just think I'm a likely person to be recruited due to my perceived skill level and name recognition in relation to everyone else in the game (most have been saying middle of the line), then I would say you probably have your head on straight. Go ahead and keep pressuring me, I can take it.
On that note, one person we should keep an eye on is citizen. He is a decent player, but is very quiet even when he's town. He'd be a good person for mafia to recruit. 1) don't reference ongoing games I can reference an ongoing game that you are the MOD of (in other words, you are not PLAYING) and that I spoke in publicly if I want if I believe it's influencing your behavior, thanks. Show nested quote + 2) quit making up lies, i only pushed for you after i noticed your scummy vote in the RVS. you are likely scum, so i am voting for you.
hi! I suppose you forgot you wrote this, it's not like you voted immediately when the day started for me: Show nested quote +On July 01 2010 11:41 Bill Murray wrote: random vote on a5j until he decides to post in the thread town interested in a random wagon?
thoughts on voting for double lynch? Wow BM, you must be an amazing scum hunter. Deciding who the god father is before they've even posted! Let's all get behind BM! Show nested quote + 3) though I agree with you on citi.zen, he is probably a blue role. Coroner imo. You, on the other hand, are the Godfather.
I have a very serious question for you: really? REALLY? are you kidding me? You've deduced that citizen is the coroner? lmfao.
I know how he plays as blue. I don't know how you play as red, but you are beginning to give me townie vibes. I do not want you to think that I have in any way voted for you because of my game. Why would I care that you were a lover and died in my game? I find it funny you are still upset about it.
I am trying to scumhunt. I am sorry that I had to pressure you and see how you reacted. If you've actually read my play as town, this is what I do.
Korynne is acting VERY funny this game, and in line with her scum meta. I am going to omgus her for that shifty vote with no explanation.
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p.s., a5j, i voted for you because i wanted to vote someone in the RVS (i could only think of you and L as being on the player list [besides chezinu, who already had a vote on him], and I sure as hell wasn't going to vote for L). I then noticed you were the 3rd vote on a wagon, which is literally a common scumtell.
hope that clears up my previous voting. i am now voting for korynne because i've had FoS on her already, and she is spazzing over it. possible blue/red. still getting the traitor vibe from her which could be explaining why she is so creeped out that i hit the nail on the head
if she flips traitor i'm going to be sooooooooooooooooo stoked and find it funny that i'm a mind-reader
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On July 01 2010 19:18 Korynne wrote: I'm going to bed, should be awake before the end of the day, but voting just in case. xP
Voting for BM because I get a funny feeling from him like I mentioned before. He's actually contributing like a normal person, which freaks me out. Which would be a shame if it turns out he's just a regular townie/blue role trying to step up his game. BM if you link me to a game in the past where you've played "normally" I'd definitely retract my vote.
It's not like a real serious vote, like I said, I'm going to bed, so like, figured I'd vote just in case.
squirm
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On July 02 2010 01:00 Korynne wrote: Like honestly BM, if you've read any of my games, you know that other than the game where I was scum in your game (though that doesn't really count because that was f11) I've tried to propose some sort of lengthy strategy at the beginning of the day.
Also I was going to bed, you're way too sensitive to the vote on you and you don't usually seem like the OMGUS kind of person. Like I said, which you have not addressed in any way, you're playing differently this game than all others. You could at least have said, well gee thanks I try to help out for real now and I get voted on for that? You just completely ignored that part of my post. So yeah, heavy FoS on you.
What's wrong with my idea? If we implement it we can do up to 3 actions a day instead of just 1. Actions: #1 Roleblock a mafia, this can block all 3 KP if we hit the mafia. I highly doubt mafia is going to pretend to not kill anyone when a townie gets blocked, they could just kill that townie and 2 others. Even when mafia has 1 KP it's between not killing and letting the one guy (we chose) die, and just killing the person that they feel like is most detrimental to town. #2 DT check a GF, since that's the only way we can find the GF and a GF to DT trade is like, absolutely worth it especially since we have a system for mafia now. #3 Lynch an inactive, since we have to lynch everyday, if the roleblock and DT check don't work out then we just lynch an inactive, like we can do today since we haven't started DT checking and roleblocking.
So how do we implement this plan?
#1 Pseudovote in this thread for mafia and GF, like ##mafia: A ##GF: B #2 At night, roleblocker blocks the person who got the most votes for mafia (even if they don't agree on the person being mafia, and of course they don't have to roleblock themselves, but they can't roleblock anyone else at night if they are the one designated to be roleblocked) and detective checks the person who town voted on as most likely to be GF (with the same clause as above, except if the town voted for the DT then he can check whoever he likes) #3 In the morning, if the DT found GF, we lynch GF. If no night kills happened, we lynch the person that was roleblocked. If neither of those happen, then we lynch an inactive (they don't contribute to us very much, and they're harder to read, and this forces people to talk) We can also vote for double lynch if there's a lot of people we want to kill (like we got a GF and there was no night kills, vote for double lynch the next day). This way we get through 3 things a day. Now for everyone who doesn't understand how this is beneficial to us, let me spell it out for you.
Above method: Up to 3 actions a day Normal method: We have to choose to either lynch someone we think is mafia (to lower their KP), choose to lynch someone we think is GF (to stop the recruiting), and probably have no power to threaten the inactives because we're too busy hunting scum.
Okay peoples? This sounds like a wonderful idea.
heavy fos on me after i made a half page post putting heavy fos on you first? your play is trash.
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On July 02 2010 01:17 Korynne wrote: Bill you're laughable at your accusation of me. I'm acting funny and that's in line with my scum meta? The only game I was scum was your game, where it was f11 so there was no reason to make any let's break the game plans. And I'm pretty sure everyone in that game thought I was acting just fine and normal.
The game I acted "funny" in might be the PYP where Foolishness (mafia) kept accusing me of being scum because of one thing I repeatedly say (well you can lynch me to find out since I'm vanilla and then you'll know for sure if Foolishness stole Comp Vig) that he's like omg that's so typical scum. And I was townie that game.
So like, worst argument ever. -.-
jeez, you're still on me?
your play is so bad.
how about you learn how to scumhunt? take notes.
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